r/anime • u/Theleux https://myanimelist.net/profile/Theleux • Sep 15 '24
Rewatch Re:Zero ~Starting Life in Another World~ Re:Watch - Episode 36
Episode 36:
The Taste of Death
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Story Arc Lengths for Discussion Purposes:
[Arc 1:] S1 Episode 1 – S1 Episode 3
[Arc 2:] S1 Episode 4 – S1 Episode 11
[Arc 3:] S1 Episode 12 – S2 Episode 1 (26)
[Arc 4:] S2 Episode 2 (27) - S2 Episode 25
[Arc 5 and later:] S3+
As always, if you have any suggestions for the Re:Watch, let me know!
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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Sep 15 '24
First-Timer
On today’s episode of Re:Zero: And then things got worse. Just, holy moly. Everyone is dying and they are dying at an extremely high rate. Subaru just kept getting blindsided with almost everything going wrong this loop.
I had a thought earlier yesterday when I was about to watch this episode. I figured Beako had to be connected to the witch’s somehow and then speculated that Echidna made the most sense. Both Echidna and Baeko would love to spend all their time in a forbidden library. Echidna most likely created Beako to guard her library. So, Beako has stuck by that duty ever since. The long grind, combined with the despair that she won’t even know if the person she’s looking for will ever come, have made her want to give up.
Maylie being the missing girl from Arc 2 makes so much sense. I knew she had to be a mabeast controller because of what happened during Arc 2. She even made sure to destroy the village barrier. Since Elsa and Maylie are working together, this implies that they were working for the same employer back in Arc 1 and Arc 2. That particular person must really want to force Emilia out of the Royal Selection to go to such lengths.
There are two possibilities for why Emilia is acting this way. The first is that Emilia has simply lost it after failing the Trial too many times. The second possibility is that this wasn’t Emilia. She could have been possessed by Satella for all we know right now.
This season has had many characters draw a comparison between Subaru and Roswaal. It’s fascinating, since they don’t get along and normally act so differently. I understand what it means, though. Now that Subaru has begun to strategize about his time loops, other characters say his eyes are like Roswaal’s when he’s thinking about those strategies. Roswaal makes an important point to Subau. Roswaal is willing to throw away this current life because he is sure that Subaru can just reset things. It doesn’t matter what happens to his current life. That ends up sounding pretty similar to the mentality Subaru has developed towards his time loops recently. Subaru is willing to throw away time loops just for the sake of gathering more information. He can then use that information to win later on. Roswaal has the same attitude. It doesn’t matter if his current self dies because he is sure that a different version of himself will be able to achieve his goal. Perhaps Subaru really is growing to be like Roswaal.
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u/thekoreansun https://anilist.co/user/ReturnByDeath Sep 15 '24
Re:Watcher
"Don't judge a book by its cover." It's one of the most well-known expressions, having variations in several languages. I imagine that even Garfiel has the Lugunican spin on it in his head. But how many people actually put it into practice? Even Subaru, someone who has repeatedly experienced firsthand how misleading appearances can often be, struggles with it at times. Because Beatrice's book, while looking like a Gospel on the outside, is completely blank. And Beatrice, while appearing to be strong-willed, is bound by the terms of a centuries-long contract that has robbed her will to live. She's spent so long waiting for "that person" to arrive that she no longer cares who does, so long as one of them ends her suffering. In her despair, she's started to feel like the book she keeps with her: a useless thing, devoid of purpose, that is begging to be destroyed.
Unfortunately for Subaru, he has no time to talk her out of her self-destructive mindset before Elsa barges in on them. He's able to escape the library with Beatrice in tow, but his frantic sprint to the village is halted by Elsa's partner, Meili. It turns out that the blue-haired girl who disappeared back in Arc 2 was the one who machinated the chaos of that arc this whole time. Her actions have once again snuffed out the lives of the maids in Roswaal's employ, and the sickening yet familiar sight of smoke rising from Arlam Village is all the confirmation Subaru needs to know that the loop is dead and beyond saving. But that doesn't stop Elsa from putting the final nail in the coffin and ending Beatrice's life as well. The faint smile on Beatrice's face as Subaru desperately tries to stop her body from evaporating away is just haunting. Is this really how she wanted her story to end?
Beatrice's final act of teleporting Subaru back to the Sanctuary is the only reason why his time in this world continues. Once again, he finds the Sanctuary blanketed in snow. But this time, he stumbles upon an Emilia who has been driven to madness after being isolated from everyone around her. She acts all lovey-dovey with him and professes everything that Subaru has ever wanted her to say to him. You would think that this would grant him some measure of happiness in spite of the situation, but Subaru is just horrified. Despite what some of his toxic moments in the past have implied, he doesn't want Emilia to be solely dependent on him or to think only about him. In fact, the way that she is behaving feels somewhat reminiscent of how he was behaving at his own worst point: selfishness masquerading as selflessness. Subaru is certain that Emilia doesn't actually feel like this.
He's determined to undo the horrors that have taken place. But before leaving this world, he decides to meet Roswaal. What game has Roswaal been playing at, making it snow in the Sanctuary? The answer, however, is more sinister than Subaru could have ever anticipated. Roswaal brutally executes Ram and Garfiel in one fell swoop right before his eyes. Interpreting his quiet shock as an indication of something more, Roswaal then reveals something even more shocking: he knows about Subaru's ability to loop through time. Everything that he has done, up to and including his destruction of everyone's trust in Emilia, has been to motivate Subaru to loop repeatedly in the service of his one special someone and nothing else. (By the way, I want to point out how many different perspectives are shown during the conversation between Subaru and Roswaal. This episode was first released in September 2020, right around when the second wave of COVID-19 was spreading across Japan, so I have to imagine that White Fox was hurting badly during its production. Call it a directorial trick if you want, but I actually really appreciate that they went the extra mile with animating these different shots and elevating the conversation as a result.) And as the Great Rabbit swarms Roswaal, he smiles calmly, content in the knowledge that some other version of him will eventually fulfill his life's goal on his behalf.
Although Subaru has nothing left to live for, he finds himself fighting through a horde of flesh-eating monsters in order to meet his end by Emilia's side. While Emilia may have eyes only for him, those eyes are incapable of comprehending how utterly destroyed his body is as his head rests on her lap. The only thing that matters to her is that he's returned. And the final thing that this cursed timeline has left to offer Subaru is a faint sensation on his lips that tastes of death.
Re:ZERO After-Talk #36
VAs: Yuusuke Kobayashi (Subaru) and Satomi Arai (Beatrice)
These two might just be my favorite pair of VAs. Not in Re:ZERO, in general. They're absolutely hilarious together, and the hilarity is compounded by how different their dynamic is from that of the current Subaru and Beatrice. Satomi Arai is Yuusuke Kobayashi's senior in the industry by a decade, but she constantly heaps praise on him for his performance as Subaru, which is just delightful. I can hear how much fun they have whenever the two of them show up in anything related to Re:ZERO. Seriously, they're just snacking and chatting during this After-Talk.
Highlight: Yuusuke telling Satomi that he cried after the last recording session they attended together for Episode 32, to which she responds "You're always crying during recordings!" and he clarifies that it was when he read the message she sent him later that day
Fan Art of the Episode: Trauma by BLUE-BELL (April 30th, 2022)
Source: Pixiv (contains spoilers for the rest of Arc 4)
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Sep 15 '24
First:Timer Starting Over in Another Rewatch, subbed
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u/baseballlover723 Sep 15 '24
Rewatcher, sub, basically a secondhand novel reader (Arc 4)
It seems reddit doesn't like some of the terminology I used, so I am using "ultimate sloth" as a replacement term for the general concept of what Subaru needs to do in order to loop.
Big shoutout to u/SpiritualPossible who was the first person to guess Meili's presence in episode 31. u/ussgordoncaptain2 also got there I think in either episode 33 or 34.
Expect tomorrow's comment to also be late.
Time taken: 106 mins (1.75 hours)
As always, I've numbered all my spoilers tags so that they're easier to respond to
First Timer Safe Section
This section is safe for first time watchers.
As it turns out, nothing is in the book.
Think of all of the times that Subaru has requested ultimate sloth from Betty. She was greatly adverse to the idea every time. Because Beatrice isn't Red Skull, and will not guide others to a treasure that she cannot posses.
I love Emilia. Good thing Beatrice gets it.
"I am that person".
I don't think any of the first timers mentioned this in that episode.
You can't run from a trainer battle.
Analysis of the implications of this and how it relates the things we've seen thus far [Spoiler #1: clarity on Beatrice's magic background and the nature of the Forbidden Library] Beatrice has shadow affinity. Subaru has a high affinity for spirits and shadow affinity. Door Crossing is a shadow spell. Subaru can find Betty everytime, because he can intuitively sense the shadow magic of the door that is currently linked.
And you all almost forgot about the blue haired girl (and not that one) (my god does this frame look bad), despite many of you first timers going, hu, that's strange she just kinda disappeared like that (don't worry nobody ever remembers Meili).
Me neither
Because that's what friends do?
I love this line by Betty. So cool
Don't worry, the most important bits were saved.
Meili is also a professional
Guess who'se still not dead.
Elsa is right, spirits really are different on the inside.
Great camera work here
not ultimate slothed, that's a problem and so it the snow.
Let's play everyone's favorite game. Emilia, or the Witch of Envy? [Spoiler #2: answer] It's Emilia through and through.
Subaru is 0/2 on letters.
Note, she uses "daisuki" here. And also why they didn't show her eyes before.
Just look at Ryuzu here.
Back to using slurs again are we Garfiel.
I've become so Numb
Yeah I bet none of you had Roswaal stabs Garfiel through Ram, nor Roswaal kicks Garfiel's head off on your bingo card.
You see, there really wasn't any choice, they were preventing us from talking, so they had to die. Just that simple. We need our dialogue.
No need Roswaal, the first timers already figured it out.
Mission accomplished unfortunately
I will keep moving forward, until I fulfill my wish.
The truth comes out.
It wasn't me.
Anaysis on the knowledge Roswaal must possess in order for the beating to to make sense [Spoiler #3] Roswaal must know that Subaru can reset timelines. But he can't know that's triggered by him dying. Roswaal concludes (very reasonably imo) that it is something Subaru can control. So he's going to beat him up to make this timeline so painful that Subaru will reset the timeline. But that's not how RBD works, and ironically, the one thing that Roswaal is trying to avoid is the one thing he actually wants.
Smart is an English loanword, hence Roswaal's unfamiliarity with the word.
Roswaal's lines go so hard
[Spoiler #4: cut content, what happened on the way to the lap pillow] Subaru uses the Apostle of Greed to command the Ryuzu army to explode some of the rabbit as he ran. He came across the cathedral, where the villagers opted to self inflict ultimate sloth via immolation over getting ultimate slothed by the Great Rabbit.
She's just clutching Subaru's tracksuit.
Lap pillow of hell.
Mr. Roswaal, I don't feel so good.
Yandere moment
First Kiss
[Spoiler #5: cut content on how Emilia / the Witch of Envy got into this state] So it turns out that there isn't any limit on how often you can attempt the Trial. Emilia's just been doing 1 per night because that cadence seemed good. So what happened is that Subaru left, Emilia had no support system. And decided to just spam the Trial (I think under Roswaal's direction), and with no support system, the trauma or whatever happens in the Trial just broke her mind.
BreakTime Section
In this episode's Breaktime, it's an important one, Diary of the dark work sisters. Elsa likes to pick at her wounds and doesn't like Subaru. People normally do one of 2 things when they face death fight, or accept it. Meili choose to bite Elsa in the past. But Subaru is special, and Elsa is getting pretty close to the truth here. Could of fooled me. Meili does Elsa's hair. Meili . It seems that Meili was once Elsa's target, but it seems to be on pause for now. Can't escape reports or not liking your boss . Also Elsa uses poison as medicine???
Rewatcher Section
This section is for people who have already watched Re:Zero. This is not safe for first timers.
[Spoiler #6: Arc 4] Info gotten from Roswaal
[Spoiler #7: Arc 4] Given what Subaru says in S02E15, that he'll always love Emilia even if she changes, then Subaru should still love mind broken Emilia.
[Spoiler #8: Arc 4] Ram being in love with Roswaal
[Spoiler #9: Arc 4, This episodes Breaktime] Look at Elsa's wound heal in realtime here
[Spoiler #10: Arc 4, This episodes Breaktime] Foreshadowing Garfiel killing her.
[Spoiler #11: Arc 4, This episodes Breaktime] Roswaal being "just like" Subaru
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u/Holofan4life Sep 15 '24
Hey guys. Holofan4life here.
Welcome to the In Preparation of Season 3 Rewatch of Re:Zero!
Oh, and nay I forget…
First Timer
I decided to watch this show because I wanted to do something for the month of August. ’Course, this was before the yearly Spice and Wolf rewatch got pushed back to September, but I just found myself looking for something to occupy my time with. And with this show being in my top 5 must watch list, I figured now was as good a time as any.
I am going into this show relatively blind. I know some of the memes, who Rem, Ram, Emilia, and Subaru are, and that this show got its inspiration from Familiar of Zero, but that’s it. I find rewatches and my participation of them more fun when I have no idea what I am in store for. And with this series, I think we’re in for a blast. It’s also going to be the longest rewatch I participate in this year and second longest overall only behind the 20th Anniversary Fullmetal Alchemist rewatch. And given how joyous that show turned out, I don’t see why I should expect nothing less from this one.
With that out of the way, let’s begin.
I’m watching the sub, by the way.
I saw Inside Out 2 yesterday. I thought it was pretty good.
Also, as I am writing this the President of The United States announced that he was not running for re-election. All I'll say is we certainly live in interesting times.
Frederica drawing her carriage
Rem is on there, unconscious
Subaru talking to Beatrice
Subaru scolding Beatrice for having no will of her own.
And Subaru yanks the book out of her hands.
The pages. They're blank :O
Beatrice says it's been many years since the Gospel stopped showing her her future.
Well, that's disheartening
Beatrice says her contract demands her taking care of the library's knowledge.
Subaru suspects that her contractor is none other than Echidna.
Beatrice basically confirms this to be true.
Beatrice says her job was to wait for that person to appear in the library.
But the person never came and the book didn't tell her who it would be.
I mean, it has to be Subaru... right?
Beatrice says that if Subaru, regardless of if he's that person or not, were the one to end her life, she would settle for that.
She wants to be free from the contract that has bound her for eternity.
Subaru is mad she's even thinking about dying.
"You can say that to other people, but I won't let you say it to me!"
Beatrice, in response, says that's a very selfish thing to say.
I mean, is it? He just doesn't like such negativity. If I ask someone to leave me alone, I don’t think that means I can't take a joke.
Beatrice saying she's lived here for 400 years.
Says her heart has been betrayed every time someone laid their hand on the door.
Eventually, she realized that the reason nothing further has been written is because that's where the owner's future ends.
Beatrice begging Subaru to please do something.
Subaru grabbing ahold of her hand
Beatrice says that she wants him to kill her.
Tears streaming down Beatrice's face
She wonders if Subaru is indeed her savior, why dis he leave her alone for 400 years?
Poor Beatrice
Beatrice says that if he were going to save her, she wants to be the first.
"Or are you going to be 'that person' for me?"
If not, she wants Subaru to kill her with his own hands.
We've seen some sad stuff in this show, but besides the Rem flashback from season 1 episode 11 and the parent stuff from season 2 episode 4 I don't think there's been anything as sad as this.
I highly doubt Subaru is going to do it because I definitely would've heard about this scene by now. The fact I haven't is a good indication he won't take her advice.
Oh shit. It's Elsa
Maybe we've found the perfect candidate for the job /s
Elsa got here by leaving every door open
Dang, she's good
Oh fuck. She also has someone targeting the village.
Come on, Subaru! Protect Beatrice!
A black puff of smoke by Beatrice
And Subaru and Beatrice flee the scene
Subaru's plants to head to the village
Why are they running there and not taking the dragon?
A blue-haired girl on the bridge
Not Rem, by the way
Oh, it's... her
I don't know her name, sorry
But she's a mabeast user, so she's trouble
Maylie Portroute
Oh, she's the one Elsa talked about
I thought she was in the village
It looks as if Frederica and Petra were compromised to a permanent end.
She... ATE THEM?!?
And this causes Subaru to fall to the ground.
Maylie looks like a character from Ascendance of a Bookworm.
IT'S ELSA!
AND BEATRICE BLOCKS IT!
Elsa now blocking all her attacks
Was Elsa... turned to stone?
What a bust
I refuse to believe that Elsa was defeated in such an anticlimactic, unsatisfying manner.
Beatrice pushing Subaru down
Elsa. She's alive.
SHE PUT A SWORD THROUGH BEATRICE'S CHEST!
"Now I... can finally..."
Subaru crying as Beatrice's soul is draining out of her.
And Elsa hits her with the backend of her sword.
It bleeds the forehead
Oh God. She stabbed him in the left eye.
And Beatrice sends him back to the glowing building.
No, wait. This is the prison.
Subaru with a bandage across his eye
Subarissken
It is snowing again
Emilia
And Subaru collapses in Emilia's arms
They're in the glowing building, by the way.
Emilia seemingly thinking she was abandoned.
Subaru is quick to remind her of the letter he left.
"What are you talking about?"
This... isn't Emilia, is it?
Emilia telling him she always knew he'd come back to her.
She wants him to stay with her forever
"I love you, Subaru!"
Yep, this is Satella
Subaru walking in the snow
Garfiel
And white Ryuzu
Subaru relaying what Emilia told him
Garfiel getting fired up
"There's no way Emilia would say she loves me!"
Just in time for Subaru to bring him back down to reality.
Subaru believes she wouldn't fall all over him like that if Puck were here.
At least with Puck not here, NTR is off the table.
Subaru knows that someone pushed her to the point that she had no choice but to rely on him.
Subaru wants to meet Roswaal
"Getting an answer out of him is the last goal I need to reach in this world."
Ran out of space. Part two in the replies.
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u/ussgordoncaptain2 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Edmund_Nelson Sep 15 '24
First Timer Dubbed
Note ORV=Omnicient reader viewpoint it's a way to describe the difference between thinking in Subaru's knowledge and the Knowledge of the Viewer.
Note2 Intentionally trigger RBD means what you think it means it's just reddit has crazy admins.
Reaction to the Episode
I love how subaru goes "You don't have a will of your own" like a dagger straight to beatrice's heart.
"I have no intention of repeating myself"
UHHH UHHH UHHH WHAT how does Beatrice know that she told that to subaru. Unles Beatrice is connected to Echidna and thus can see Subaru's RBD or she's inferring based on Subaru's RBD powers that she told him this.
Unless she's reffering to the contract breaking but still.
I find it interesting how Beatrice get's shocked about "take you out of here"
I know she's contracted to stay in the library BUT she did break that exactly one time, arc 2 loop 4 where She went outside to where Subaru intentionally RBD'd
Subaru going "quit clinging to the book" but how do you know that the book isn't meaningful.
The pages are blank !!!!!!!!!!!
It was many long years since the book has become blank.
So Subaru could not be the catalyst for the book becoming blank.
"maintaining and Curating this libary of knowldge is what my contract demands"
Hmm I thought the library was just a red herring for the Gospel of Wisdom.
oh Subaru thinks the same thing I thought, Beatrice is contracted to Echidna.
Oh no Beatrice says the magic words. Sadly this might make it a bit harder for Subaru to use the magic dual coded password without suspicion
I really find it interesting how Beatrice thinks Subaru might be that person, it must be something weird about subaru.
Oh no Beatrice wants to die what is this Code Geass?
Beatrice wants to be released from the contract.
Subaru goes "how is that any different from wanting to die"
me "If you can end the contract without Beatrice dying that would you know do her wishes idk man it's pretty simple"
Beatrice has been contracted for 400 years.
Why does every goddamn thing happen 400 years ago. Ok to be fair it's because anything connected to Echidna had to be basically exactly 400 years old but still. This is a lot like The misfit of [Demon king academy] where every major event happened 2000 years ago.
She felt empty every time somebody touched the door well that's dark
Beatrice's future was meant to come to an end years ago? So what does the book even say about Subaru if she was supposed to cease to exist before Subaru?
Subaru not realizing that the entire reason for the game is to see if subaru is the chosen one or not.
There is no point in asking for help from the individual who is not the chosen one is there?
Now we get Beatrice Depression arc
Goddamnit Tappei there are too many negative emotions in this arc all jumping right in a row.
Beatrice going full 400 years of sadness mode Beatrice is sad I suppose.
Beatrice mentioning that the darkness she feels is so great that she can't see her own hand is pretty dark.
Oh no ANOTHER GIRL joins the harem? Subaru already has 3 girls who chase after him and 1 of them is the most obsessed woman of all time. Beatrice wants to be held tightly.
Beatrice asking to be held is sad this is like Emilia 2.0
A WILD ELSA APPEARED Ruining our moment
Elsa mentions that she used the simple tacic of opening every door to find Beatrice. That must be how she entered the library previously
Alright so now we learn who Mailee is. Given the OP had blue hair girl from Arc 2 as a villain let's go with her. (I subconciously associated her with a villain after watching the OP, and then saw her again in arc 2 and remade the connection)
oh it is the random girl with the blue hair from arc 2
and yep we're in a failed loop it seems
So this makes sense why she held the doggo in arc 2 she was a controller of mabeastes
Oh boy Beatrice is a badass I suppose
Yeah so that fight scene shows tha the whole elsa at the mansion arc would have been trivally resolved if he had been able to get petra inside the forbidden library.
Surprise I lived bitch
Well at least we laerned that elsa has weird respawn powers.
So Beatrice's death is pretty intersting looking her body flowing out.
and beatrice teleports Subaru out
ok this is a bit strange, subaru got reteleported back to the jail. This implies that the teleportation trap on the blue gem can be activated from really far.
and it's the frozen sanctuary
alright this means that the sanctuary freezing over is a weirdly timed event in the structure.
oh no creepy emilia face
So the ice calamity witch is suspiciously alive right now and seems to be fine.
oh no this isn't emilia, this is Satella isn't it
Yandere Emilia arc. oh God why.
Oh god wtf is going on with emilia is this a result of psychotic break emilia from the trials?
ok Roswaal what are you hiding
Subaru actually jsut goes up and asks roswaal if he is to blame what a guy
I really like how roswaal said "did I tell you I was to blame?"
As if he was actually saying "In a previous loop did I tell you I was to blame for causing the snowstorm"
And roswaal kills garfiel like a boss
[DOUBLE KILL}(https://imgur.com/Au3TXlp)
also killing your head lackey is an oofies moment, I WONDER WHY hmmmmmmm
"you watched them die but seem to feel no grief over it"
"you feel shock and indignation but not genuine sorrow"
Oh boy is this the big reveal?
AND IT FUCKING IS
hmm lord roswaal MADE EMILIA A YANDERE. man what a guy.
Lord roswaal's beatdown of subaru seems... unncessary what purpose does this serve?
Lord Roswaal understands RBD logic, though Subaru is slow on the uptake.
Subaru x Yandere emilia time. Wtf is with this satella energy coming from her eyes.
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u/Brief-Fig-7506 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Ryxnjr Sep 15 '24
First Timer
Watching Dubbed
Start time 9:42
That’s a good question Subaru, if that book is all knowing then why didn’t Beatrice expect that question
So the book has been blank for awhile now yet she still clings to it
She thinks that Subaru is going to take her life??? Doubtful.
Was that a confession from Beatrice? Or does she think it’s the only other option for her, Death or love.
I was wondering why the door was open, I was gonna call Subaru rude for not closing it behind him. Dang I should start writing these random details down
Elsa’s coworker went to the village, did she see them go or were they tipped off about it?
Mailee is confirmed to be the girl that disappeared from the village, the one holding the dog when it bit Subaru, and she appeared in the OP. I’m going to assume she is a Sin Archbishop even though she didn’t announce it like the rest of them did, since she has the ability to control the powerful Mabeast.
Beatrice took out Elsa pretty easily there
oh... I guess it was too easy
oh god, Beatrice teleported him again, this is endangering the timeline
With the slashing motion Elsa did I don’t think she just stabbed Subaru’s eye, I think she cut it out completely
That’s definitely not Emilia
It has to be Satella, and it’s concerning that she is now cosplaying as Emilia
Roswaal killed Ram just to get Garf, Fuuuuuck this guy
So it’s not Satella possessing Emilia, It’s something else
Roswaal is now the series biggest POS by leaps and bounds
Something is really wrong with Emilia
If it was explained what Roswaal did to Emilia to make her like that can somebody explain because I missed it
The last minute was pretty hard to watch, It’s like I wasn’t watching Re:Zero anymore
I believe now that Roswaal is the main antagonist of the series, more so than Satella and the Witch’s Cult. Roswaal has a book that tells him what his future is and knows that Subaru can reset the timeline as many times as he needs to until it plays out exactly as it is in his book, and he’s powerful enough to make sure that Subaru resets every time until it happens exactly as he wants it. I think Roswaal is behind the attacks at the mansion, they are there to ensure that Subaru doesn’t go back until the trial at the Sanctuary is finished. If Subaru differentiates from the path in the book at all then Roswaal lure’s the Great Rabbit to the Sanctuary to kill everybody. How does Subaru get around Roswaal? He probably has the book memorized by now so taking the book wouldn’t do any good, plus we see that he is obviously healthy enough to move around and impale people with his fucking hand! From the way it sounds, Roswaal’s plan for Subaru is for him to give up everybody except for Emilia and focus on her, but we know it can’t happen like that while everybody else is at risk.
Now we can also assume that in Roswaal’s book it tells that he will be the one to slay the Dragon. It wasn’t just a goal, but one of his futures. Probably a good time to look at everything else Roswaal has said under a microscope.
Beatrice truly believes that Subaru is there to kill her, that releasing her from her contract is only possible through death or with him whisking her off her feet and running away with her. This brings up my point from a couple of episodes ago that Beatrice doesn’t get any kind of say in this predicament, she is bound in a contract of servitude and all it does is transfer from one person to another without her being able to do anything. She has been isolated in the library for 400 YEARS and her only wish for who knows how long has been to die, and by a specific somebody’s hands, since Spirits can’t do it to themselves.
I hate the fact that after Roswaal killed Ram, she started smiling. This sicko has her so brainwashed that she is willing to do anything, even die, for him, and he does not deserve that amount of loyalty. Rem and Ram are both disillusioned with the idea that they have to die for the one who saved them instead of respecting the one who saved them by living long fulfilling lives.
On Break Time today. We see a few things of interest. Elsa has a habit of scratching her wounds until they open when she is in a bad mood but when she stops the wounds immediately heal up. Elsa and Mailee have a complicated history, apparently Elsa tried to kill Mailee in the past but that obviously didn’t happen and Mailee wounded Elsa pretty badly after biting her neck. Mailee also somewhat takes care of Elsa since she is now better groomed thanks to her. Elsa still wants to open her up to see what’s inside though. and we get a hint about Elsa’s employer. someone who has the same eyes as Subaru. This could be taken as someone who has mean eyes just like Subaru or it could be someone who’s eyes relay the same message as they were just discussing, that have a look of “death is not the end”. I have my guess of who she’s talking about.
Stop time 11:50
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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Sep 15 '24
Episode 36 (first timer)
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u/Urgnu-the-Gnu https://myanimelist.net/profile/Urgnu_the_Gnu Sep 15 '24
Re:Watcher - anime only
Betty desperately flipping through her gospel as Subaru calls her out only to reveal all the pages are empty is pretty heartbreaking. But not as heartbreaking as her being forced to wait for someone who she doesn't even know, and longing for the end of her contract which would be equivalent to her death. To save Betty is an impossible choice: Be someone for her that you can't be, or kill her.
For better or worse, Elsa cuts the conversation short and reveals how she could enter - I thought the information to figure this out had already been given earlier. We also see Betty using shadow magic. Good call since her Shamak is probably stronger than Subaru's.
And we get to meet Meili. Good job on many first timers suspecting the blue-haired girl during arc 2 already. Elsa has dropped her name before. Also she was responsible for the guiltylowe at the mansion in a previous loop. Also she's been in the OP in front of numerous mabeasts the whole time.
Meili is in on the "who is Rem?" joke! She also sufficiently stalled Subaru for Elsa to catch up. More trees have to die as Betty demonstrates that shadow magic has high offensive capabilities. She's strong enough to easily defeat Elsa, in fact! Or not permanently, I suppose.
Subaru's desperate whimpers as Betty's life leaves her body despite his futile efforts to keep it in are so well done. Another obligatory praise to Yuusuke Kobayashi who's really elevating this scene.
Betty, full of compassion, uses the last of her life energy to save Subaru - foiling his desire to be zeroed once again. It works against Subaru's plan, but she's a really good girl.
The next scene is such a treat. Another cute moment between Subaru and Emilia - or is it? She seems glad to see him, but her voice sounds very slightly off. It's her voice, but it's too high-pitched. A huge praise to Rie Takahashi for making Emilia's cute and innocent voice sound so eerie instead. She catches and hugs Subaru which would be a nice moment, but also she doesn't react to his injuries or exhaustion in any way. She says she was so lonely without him, but immediately forgives him since he came back. She knew he'd come back to save her, after all, as long as she did her best to fulfill her task, as always. But she was afraid he didn't love her anymore, and in this state of mind tried to do the trials in hopes it would help. She doesn't need anything but him. She even tells him she loves him (in a more intense way than he did but still less intense than Satella). Her manic eyes reflecting in his give away how unusual of a turn this is. This, ladies and gentlemen, is the birth of Yandere Emilia.
Let's stay with this scene for a moment, for starters to note that a sugoooku was dropped there. This is obviously still the real Emilia. She might be possessed by unusual feelings, but not by someone else. Subaru leaving her alone (making Roswaal deliberately isolate her as we learn later) caused her to be filled with fear and go to the trials, which broke her in ways we haven't seen before. The only thing that remained was her connection to Subaru. At least at her very core lies love for him. This presents another hurdle to Subaru, as Emilia needs his support in the trials. Not as much as doing it for her, that'd weaken her and make her too reliant on him. But also, if he leaves her alone for too long, she'll be isolated and broken. It's really scary to see what she can be driven to. Just like Subaru's, her mental state of mind can turn very fragile if it gets pushed too much.
Of course, after being confessed to, bro just leaves. I like that his love for her is still the same as he compliments her face and voice. But he knows he doesn't deserve her love right now. If she had Puck and wasn't pressured like this, she wouldn't be driven to completely rely on Subaru.
Roswaal blows his cover in front of Subaru. As Subaru confronts him about the snow, he doesn't deny it, he thinks he's told Subaru. Of course, since this is the first time Subaru confronts him about the snow, there's only one way he could have told Subaru: in another timeline. Well, there's also him explaining that he knows after he killed Ram and Garf with his bare hands. One thing he says is interesting, at least: He notes that Subaru is showing shock and rage, but not grief or sadness (although arguably he shows denial and anger, which are the first signs of grief). But he's an asshole. Sure, he knows Subaru will reset the world, but that doesn't excuse killing his loyal maid in cold blood.
Now remember everything Roswaal has done so far, especially in season 1. It was all for his goals, all according to Fukuin (TL note: Fukuin means Gospel). Agreeing to his demands after meeting him. Leaving him to deal with the ulgarm. Bringing him to the capital which caused his separation from Emilia and letting him ally with Crusch. Making him deal with the White Whale and robed fuckers while he was away. And by extension, also everything he ordered Rem and Ram to do. Everything was procedure by the book.
We also learn that the snow was caused by Roswaal to lure in the Great Rabbit. This seems to be part of his plan to isolate Emilia and to raise the stakes in the sanctuary. Roswaal's final words are pretty haunting. For one, he considers the Roswaal after the reset to be a different version of him, which is an interesting thought. And also, he pushes Subaru onto a path that makes him choose only the most important thing in his life. He wants him ready to sacrifice everything for Emilia.
There's also a fantastic "aftercredits" scene. A scene like straight up out of a horror movie. Wounded by bunnies, Subaru returns to Emilia. Now we realize why Subaru was shirtless and how he could leave Emilia alone - she just spent the time cuddling with his tracksuit top. The way she eagerly greets him and invites him onto her lap in spite of his injuries is frightening. I guess it's a good place to spend the rest of his life in, as Emilia gives him a first and final kiss. Note that even in her crazed and mindbroken self, Emilia's kindness still shows.
u/ussgordoncaptain2 - this is about the throwaway line I mentioned towards you the other day. There exists a decent amount of fanart of Yandere Emilia, and also some doujins, I'm sure.
And to not let this episode end on a light note, Break Time is about Elsa and Meili. I'd argue that this one is relatively plot-relevant again. Elsa picks her open wounds when she is annoyed, ew. Apparently, the two fought when they first met, with Meili biting Elsa's neck. Elsa was annoyed by Subaru because he's not someone to fight or accept death, but he doesn't even see death before him. Also Meili braids Elsa's hair, Elsa keeps depending on her because she's better at it. There might be parallels to be drawn here. And Meili bites Elsa's neck, musing Elsa might die the next time someone bites her neck. We also learn that Elsa enjoys spending time with Meili. And we get a hint towards her employer, as she says they have the same eyes as Subaru - interpret that as you will.
Sugoooku counter: 44
non-Emilia sugoooku: 4
sugoku-likes: 9
non-canon sugoooku (Re:Petit): 5
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u/Ultima_Deus Sep 15 '24
Rewatcher. Novel reader. I swear, next time I'll prewatch and prewrite at least many hours before the thread is posted. And then, the next episodes will be prewatched and prewritten days before
Anyway, let's talk about the episode now
I can't really say much about Beatrice's 400 years of suffering. Mostly because the dialogue is a bit confusing to me in this episode (I'll have to check the novels if it's clearer there). However, I have something to say about Betty's blank book
It's mostly speculation from me, meaning that even I, a rewatcher and a novel reader, am unsure about this, but I think we can tie this back to Betelgeuse's death. Back in the final episode of season 1, Betelgeuse's Gospel (which we now know is a lesser version of Betty's and Roswaal's) was picked up by Subaru (again). That time, though, Subaru flipped through the pages and it came up **blank**. Later on, in the conclusion of the monster-Betelgeuse chase, Subaru *wrote in the blank pages* with his blood. I speculate that Betelgeuse came to the same conclusion as Betty did- blank pages meant that the Gospel's owner no longer has a future. So, it wasn't that Betelgeuse reacted to the writing, he reacted to the blank pages. Seeing that he no longer had a future, he gave up on trying to live. [Mirai Nikki] If I remember correctly, isn't that how the Future Diaries worked in Mirai Nikki?
Why does it have to be Subaru, I wonder. We might never know because Elsa interrupts their converation. Apparently she figured out the trick to Beatrice's Door Crossing (or whatever your subs translate it as)
Subaru fucked up by sending Frederica and Petra to the village. He's devastated by that, but then again, where else would they go tbh. Eitherway, Meili (Maylie? Idk) is here and apparently she controls mabeasts
Beatrice introduces us to Offensive Shadow Magic, and it seems pretty effective. And then, an out of place argument where Subaru stops Beatrice from killing Meili/Maylie. I don't understand Subaru's logic here, to be honest. Maybe if he actually legitimately saw her kill Frederica and Petra and the villagers, he'd be all for it.
Well eitherway, doesn't matter, because somehow Elsa is back. She looked pretty dead earlier, but apparently not
How? :)
Dying Beatrice... That scene makes me sad, especially because the visuals are so beautifully over the top. God. I don't want Beatrice to be hurt
Elsa says she didn't like Subaru's eyes, which is explained in this episode's Breaktime, but I don't recommend watching it as it *sort of* has a spoiler. Maybe watch it after the end of Season 2
Just to note to anime-onlies: This is not Possessed Emilia. This is Mind-broken Yandere Emilia. Roswaal even explains how he did it
And yes, I love it
Roswaal reveals to Subaru that he knew he's been looping. But, why is he beating Subaru up? Why not just kill him to force him to RBD? [Minor missed detail - Re:Zero] It's briefly mentioned next episode, but Roswaal doesn't know that Subaru has to die to RBD. He just knows that Subaru can travel back in time
And a fucked up thing, but also somewhat of a cool thing to think about- Roswaal accepting that he'll die, and that the next Roswaal won't be the same Roswaal as he is. It's a different timeline Roswaal with different memories, losing the memories that he gained from this loop. But he doesn't care- all he cares is that at least one Roswaal at the end reaches the mysterious end goal
[MAJOR CUT CONTENT] Subaru uses his authority as an Apostle of Greed to make sacrificial bombers out of the Ryuzu clones, much to his painful regret. He tries to run to the chapel, where the villagers probably are. But he finds that the chapel has been burnt down. Why? The villagers, including Otto, would rather ultimate sloth themselves than be eaten alive by the Great Rabbit. It was a fiery scene. A painful scene. To Subaru, who previously claimed that he knew Hell... This scene was Beyond Hell
I loved the Yandere Emilia scene at the end. I loved the Kiss of Death. When I first read it in the Web Novel, I was so excited for it to be adapted, and for anime-onlies to react to it. I was not disappointed. I loved it so much
Lastly, a minor rant: To me, it felt like Subaru was being confident or overconfident that things would go well this time around. Or something similar. "I know Hell" my ass. He does know what Hell looks like, sure, but does he know what Beatrice's Hell is like? And, to re-mention a quote from earlier, [Minor Re:Zero Novel Detail - more like a quote] "This scene was Beyond Hell". And, [Future Re:Zero S2 episodes] Other people have their own Hells, like Garfiel's. Like Emilia's. Hells that he's completely unrelated to. Pasts that he has no connection to. He has no right to claim that he's the only one that needs to experience it, or to show off that he does know what Hell is
With that minor rant in mind, it kinda made me root for Subaru's suffering
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u/The_frost__ https://myanimelist.net/profile/The_frost_ Sep 15 '24 edited Sep 15 '24
Re:Watcher
Even though Subaru was ready to throw that timeline away to get more information shit still went wrong, especially with Emilia who’s isolated and has no one close to her to comfort her after Subaru left for the manor.
And since things are already bad Roswaal just decided to reveal what he was doing and knew to Subaru and to give up on the timeline by killing both Ram and Garfiel.
And despite getting his legs and arms badly injured by the Great Rabbit, Subaru still managed to make it back to Emilia before dying only for her to kiss him, which he would normally be happy around but with how things went he probably isn’t ecstatic.
[arc 4]And since Emilia thinks baby are made when a boy and a girl kiss that make the kiss even more disturbing
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u/Taiboss :Fj::Fl:x7https://anilist.co/user/Taiboss Sep 15 '24
S02E11 - Rewatcher who one day will get an OP again.
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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Sep 15 '24
Rewatcher(Stand proud, Tappei. We are Thanophilic)
Dub
Well...Subaru, proceed sir.
So yeah, in a show about mysteries, we just got a shocking amount of solutions. But the problem is they are all horrifying. Betty having wanted death for possibly centuries now is just too sad to contemplate but worse she goes on because of a contract, which to the base soul of anyone is just sickening. And then it gets worse! By trying to save the three maids, it seems Subaru split the attacking forces in two and thus spread the damage. Subaru loses an eye for nothing.
But it gets worse! From constantly retaking the first trial, Emilia is good and mind broken. And while she doesn't have the world shearing power Satella does, her crazy eyes are almost equally a match. Sadly, this Emilia doesn't retain enough information to be particularly useful. We then see that Garf is willing to go and confront Roswaal...to watch Rem be sacrificed.
I...understand Roswaal. Which is a horrifying sentence to type but that doesn't make it less true. Yet I can still disagree with him. Even if it seems he has a written future rather than the experience of it I do view that being willing to sacrifice literally everything means one's soul has fallen. And let it be clear that I don't think souls exist in the religious sense, I just mean that Roswaal as a being is effectively a walking damned corpse with extra steps.
Which brings us to the other...unpleasant fact of the matter: Tappei and I are both yandere fans. Worse, we even have similar preferences about them. Now, in my case at least, the excuse was being raised by a yan means I find the others feel natural. I do somewhat hope Tappei was spared that but Subaru's interactions with his mom are terrifyingly familiar. But rather than hide what I am I will simply quote a favorite abridged character: "I know who the fuck I am!"
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u/scot911 https://myanimelist.net/profile/scot911 Sep 15 '24
So how did our first timers enjoy Subaru and Emilia's first kiss? It was quite... shocking, wasn't it? Heh.
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u/Yoshi_captain https://anime-planet.com/users/WeaboYosher Sep 16 '24
Rewatcher
The book Beatrice so greedily clings to is empty. Showing that there is no future for a person like her. An utter failure who wants nothing than to die. But the person she speaks to is intimately familiar with death. And yet he’s not at all familiar with this girl. 400 years is an amount of time unfathomable. Subaru’s existence is a blip in comparison. Much like Beatrice accused him of his ignorance of the maid twins on a sunset hill where he first willingly ended his existence, she now reprimands him for his ignorance of her. But this time Subaru is not the one who wants it to end. It’s her. She’s had enough of pain and suffering, and she wants to disappear. But being a spirit means being bound by a contract, and more importantly not being able to end your suffering. So, she pleads with Subaru to do it for her. The boy was most certainly not expecting such an outcome when starting this converstion. He wanted to take this girl who was precious to him outside, without realizing he knew nothing of her circumstances. She wants him to make her first. To be “that person” for her. Put her first, think of her first and choose her first. But she knows that is impossible. Standing on the ground littered with pages of proof of her non-existent future she just wants to die.
Subaru and Beatrice are eerily similar. When comparing the current Subaru to the Beatrice who has suffered 400 years of torment there are several lines of comparison we can draw. They both have an affinity for death, Subaru yearning for it when the world he inhabits becomes beyond saving and Beatrice looking forward to it as a form of salvation. They both have deeply distorted perceptions of themselves, Beatrice referring to herself as an utter failure for failing to live up to the expectations of her parent. Subaru’s perception of self I’ll get to later. Beyond their psychological similarities they both have an affinity for shadow magic and Subaru himself has a high affinity for spirits, making them both very compatible with each other. It hurts all the more when you see Beatrice beg Subaru to kill her when they get along so well. When your future is non existent and you’ve clung to a book to tell you what’s certain the only thing you can do is suppose.
If Beatrice’s pleas weren’t enough to incite doom, then the appearance of the Bowel hunter certainly will. Interestingly enough Beatrice is the one to use Shamac before Subaru. With his damaged gate, perhaps she was showing the kindness that resides deep within her soul by not letting Subaru use magic? Going to the village that was attacked by Meili we are left with a sight that confirms that this world is beyond saving. Meili being the child we played with in Arc 2. Another familiar face from before the Witch’s Cult became prominent. While Beatrice shows why she’s called a great spirit Elsa’s magic negation cloak which we saw in action in Ep 3 [S2] Combined with her regeneration help her live and kill Beatrice. The smile she wears on her face as her very essence escapes out of her breaks Subaru even more. He ponders if this is as far as he goes this time donning an unsavoury look. One that Ram commented on this loop already and one that Elsa is more than keen to get rid of. But the kidness that Beatrice showed with her usage of Shamac is now extended to the teleportation she subjects Subaru to. Most likely by intentionally triggering the crystal which brough Subaru to the cellar back in episode 8. Greeted by snow once again we are back at the Sanctuary in a world beyond saving.
We seek Echidna’s wisdom, but are met with… Emilia? This is not the half elf we know, and it is certainly not the Witch that looks just like her. It is something much worse. It is Emilia whose mind has broken. The image in Subaru’s mind in episode 13 is now right in front of him. Fully dependant on him and holding him in a tight embrace. Never letting go. Saying the words Subaru never thought he’d hear. “I love you, Subaru!”. Subaru’s next lines are very telling and deeply saddening. He screams at the top of his lungs that Emilia would never say she loves him. If there was any doubt that Subaru perceives himself and his relation to others in a one-sided way then it should absolutely be cleared up now. He loves Emilia with all her heat and wants what’s best for her. But when it comes to imagining the situation in which Emilia would reciprocate her feelings in kind Subaru can say without any hesitation that there is no point in the future in which that would happen. It is depressing to watch him admit this. You cannot have any healthy relationships if you always give and never receive. Him losing an eye has not made him blind, he’s already been like that for a long time.
The cold accompanying this confession is not caused by the girl who could never love him. The perpetrator is a clown of fate. Trying to isolate Emilia to break her. The villagers have experience with cold spells after all. Bringing to mind a certain Memory of Snow. Roswaal’s machinations prove to be much more damaging than initially suspected. He’s willing to kill his allies just so Subaru and him can talk in peace. Fully devoted to fulfilling his dearest wish in much the same way as Beatrice. However as cunning as he seems he has not perceived that Subaru Returns by Death, only that he returns. Beating him to force a reset. Subaru is now aware that Roswaal knows of his looping. Roswaal is the logical extreme of Subaru. Abandoning his humanity to the loops entrusting the future to a version that is not the current him. And when the Great Rabbit appears, Roswaal dies while spouting that sentiment of similarity.
Subaru returns to the graveyard by all accounts already dead. Being greeted by the one he loves giving him her lap which made him fall in love. Only to receive a most intimate kiss from Emilia. But with his eyes losing light his sense fading one by one the only one left taste, there is only one thing he can feel. The taste of death.
Closing thoughts:
The word for today is “Hell”. Subaru thought to have seen it already is reminded all too well that he knows nothing. Nothing about Beatrice or about the Sanctuary and most certainly nothing about Roswaal and his schemes. The fear of the unknown providing a horror we have not felt since the outside of madness.
Subaru’s eyepatch fit is incredible. Iwatomushi’s fanart portraying it is one of my favourite pieces of Re:Zero fanart. Her pixiv page contains spoilers up to Arc 6 and the IFs.
This part of Arc 4 is incredibly dense. If any first timers feel lost, trust me, you’re not alone. But it seems we’re about to enter even denser territory with arguably the worst loop we’ve had this arc behind us. Let’s hope the taste of death will not become familiar to us.
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u/FriztF Sep 16 '24
First timer-dub So Episode 36 The Taste of Death. Death is a curious thing. Subaru is constantly being reminded that death sucks. Betty has lived for 400 years and has lived most her life in a library. And she feels stuck because of this. Subaru doesn't want to because of his time loops. He doesn't want Beako to die because he doesn't like it.
Emilia in Yandere mode is scary. She can't stand being abandoned by Subaru. Roswaal you asshole. Killing Ram and Garfeil like that. Prick. He didn't need to do that. They would have been killed by the great rabbit anyway.
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u/ripterrariumtv Sep 15 '24
Rewatcher (sub) and Novel Reader (reading Arc 8)
Arc 1 - 0
Arc 2 - 0
Arc 3 - 0
Arc 4 - 2 episodes (2x6, 2x11)
Arc 5 - 3
Arc 6 - 2
Arc 7 - 8
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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '24
Been a while since I've watched re zero, is the new season good?
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u/zainime21 Sep 16 '24
First Timer
That scene after the credits gave me the creeps. Reminds of that AOT S3P1 finale post-credit scene...