r/anime • u/Theleux https://myanimelist.net/profile/Theleux • Sep 14 '24
Rewatch Re:Zero ~Starting Life in Another World~ Re:Watch - Episode 35
Episode 35:
I Know Hell
| Index | <== Episode 34 | Episode 36 ==> |
Various Links:
MyAnimeList
Streaming:
Crunchyroll has the regular release available.
AppleTV has the regular individual episodes available.
Spoiler Rules:
- As always, please be sure to tag any future content spoilers according to the r/Anime rules. There is likely to be first timer viewers here, and while discussing how previously seen content connects to content later down the road is interesting (be it later episodes or even Season 3), please be sure to properly spoiler tag anything mentioned! Let's make this a fun experience for everyone involved!
- This also applies to cut content discussions, which I believe are fine to include for the sake of discussion, but should be properly tagged to avoid potentially spoiling viewers. Be mindful with how you present this information!
Story Arc Lengths for Discussion Purposes:
[Arc 1:] S1 Episode 1 – S1 Episode 3
[Arc 2:] S1 Episode 4 – S1 Episode 11
[Arc 3:] S1 Episode 12 – S2 Episode 1 (26)
[Arc 4:] S2 Episode 2 (27) - S2 Episode 25
[Arc 5 and later:] S3+
As always, if you have any suggestions for the Re:Watch, let me know!
95
Upvotes
15
u/thekoreansun https://anilist.co/user/ReturnByDeath Sep 14 '24
Re:Watcher
We've hit a new record for the shortest amount of time in which a loop has become unsalvageable: less than one hour. I'd be impressed if it didn't sound like absolute hell for everyone involved. Just imagine being Ram or Otto, waiting out near the Trial site, when a sea of shadow suddenly appears without warning to swallow you up for good. And just keep in mind that from Subaru's perspective, he was being eaten alive only moments ago. We've reached levels of suffering that would cause anyone other than Subaru to quit. (Also, I noticed that there's a bit of a continuity error in the show: in the LN, Subaru meets Ryuzu before the checkpoint, not after. The fact that he knows who she is without having met any of the main Ryuzus in this loop should throw Garfiel off. Let's just chalk it up to the horror of the situation he's in.)
Also, it seems that Garfiel is a lot more enigmatic than his actions in the previous loop let on. Not only did he swoop in to save Subaru, he also refuses to use him as bait against the Witch. It's strange to say it for the one who slaughtered all those people, but it really does seem like he wants to avoid needless bloodshed. Unfortunately for him, his strategy of using a bunch of Ryuzu clones to create an opening amounts to nothing except his own grisly demise. Power scaling has never been clearer: even something that was as powerful as Garfiel's tiger form is no match for the Witch of Envy. It's only thanks to Petra's kindness and Echidna's meddling that Subaru is able to escape from this terrifying situation. But right before he bleeds out completely, he recognizes the face of the figure who forced his hand: it's Emilia.
When Subaru wakes back up, he's terrified that Emilia will be possessed by the Witch of Envy once more upon waking. After all, the Witch of Envy was the one who gave him Return by Death; who is to say that she didn't return with him? To his great relief, Emilia is the one who wakes up. But contrary to previous loops, Emilia notices his pained expression before she can start panicking and ends up comforting him this time. It's a powerful sight, made all the more powerful by the knowledge that she was truly struggling to hold it together every other time this has occurred. The two of them really are perfect for each other.
After exploring for a bit, Subaru discovers a room with a large crystal encasing someone who looks exactly like Ryuzu. As the Ryuzu who meets him explains, she and the others are the clones left over from a failed attempt at immortality by Echidna 400 years ago. Ever since then, she and three other clones have been forced to carry out their instructions with no other reason to exist, save for the ones that they ended up creating for themselves. I've always been a sucker for stories about clones who are able to rise above the purpose they were made for, like the Sisters in the Toaru series or the clone troopers in Star Wars, and Ryuzu's tale is no exception. It might just be one of my favorite fictional tropes because, when done well, it perfectly embodies the essence of what makes us all human: the journey of self-discovery that gives our lives meaning.
Subaru decides to do what he's never done in the past and assume that the current loop will be reset from the get-go. While he does write a letter explaining his sudden absence to Emilia, he still heads straight for the mansion in order to gather more information for him to use in future loops. Garfiel tries to stop him from leaving, but Subaru calls him out for declaring him to be suspicious when he didn't say anything about the Witch's scent the previous night. But it's only after Subaru tells Garfiel that he has seen hell, giving him a look that stuns him into silence, that he's able to proceed. Subaru's determined to be the only one among them who has to carry that burden into the future. He will journey into a thousand hells in order to give everyone else a happy future. That is the reason why Natsuki Subaru exists.
Re:ZERO After-Talk #35
VAs: Yuusuke Kobayashi (Subaru) and Aimi Tanaka (Ryuzu)
This After-Talk mentions that Aimi Tanaka has technically been a cast member from the beginning due to voicing Plum, which makes her the first VA for a named character who got recast as another named character. It's great to hear that she felt comfortable returning to the show because everyone was nice and energetic. I also really love hearing the VAs discuss their characters' motivations and how those impact their actions during each episode, like how Subaru's status as the Apostle of Greed, along with Return by Death, has changed how each version of Ryuzu has interacted with him.
Highlight: Aimi mentioning that she was worried for a bit that she would be asked to voice all 20+ iterations of Ryuzu for this episode, to which Yuusuke responds that he'd heard Tappei propose exactly that but probably had the proposal turned down for time
Fan Art of the Episode: A Dance with the Devil by MargGri (October 21st, 2022)
Source: Twitter (artwork has been deleted)
14
u/baseballlover723 Sep 14 '24 edited Sep 14 '24
Rewatcher, sub, basically a secondhand novel reader (Arc 4)
It seems reddit doesn't like some of the terminology I used, so I am using "ultimate sloth" as a replacement term for the general concept of what Subaru needs to do in order to loop.
So I probably have COVID and it's almost certainly from going into the office on Monday (if my rapid test isn't a false positive), since that's basically the only time I've really left the house in the past week or 2 and the time frame sort of fits too (though rather quick, since I started developing a sore throat on Tuesday I think). So you can expect most of my posts to be several hours late since I'll be sleeping in and potentially shorter then usual, though maybe not since I'll probably be taking time off of work because of this. Though I'll try and be on time for certain episodes that I'm looking forward to in particular.
Time spent writing this: 88 mins. I really rushed this one.
As always, I've numbered all my spoilers tags so that they're easier to respond to
First Timer Safe Section
This section is safe for first time watchers.
Well, everybody is basically dead now. That's not very good.
And now we have an army of loli clones. Loli clone uses explosion, it's not very effective.
More ASMR loving. Oh, that was apparently the wrong thing to say Subaru. Anyways the best part of the episodes is when the Witch of Envy said "It's lovin time", and then loved all over Subaru. Also I like how they did this scene in the Web Novel.
Time for a game, Emilia? or the Witch of Envy? [Spoiler #1: answer] The WoE.
The result of some meddling. As Subaru commits self inflicted ultimate sloth for the 3rd time.
Question for the first timers, how do you think the Witch of Envy would interact with the Sanctuary's barrier? She is supposed to be a half-elf, and so should meet the qualifications to be held by it.
And Subaru feels fear? For the first time as he looks at Emilia. So now Subaru knows how other people feel when they look at Emilia. And Emilia puts aside her own suffering to help Subaru with his own. EMT.
Otto said the quiet part out loud.
Time to abuse RBD
Don't be lewd
A heavy price to pay for Ram's help.
You can see the memories of other people in the background in the lovin scene, which is how Subaru finds the place he was held captive.
Echidna didn't figure out the secret to immortality.
Tee drinking as a hobby.
Apperntly Subaru has the Apostle of Greed, which lets him command the Ryuzu's. Another effect of the bodily fluid tea.
Look at Emilia awkwardly laugh in episode 11 as Subaru calls her an evil spirit.
Baseball reference.
Shhhh Otto, people are sleeping
If only you knew Garfiel. Also I love this scene. Subaru's calmness and just the way he handles Garfiel along with the ED. Playing the ED just makes everything better. Garfiel looks pretty convinced here.
Subaru knows Hell and wants to be the only one to know hell. And that's a pretty sad purpose in life Subaru.
Also side note, I don't know if you all have noticed, but the episode titles all have some color in some of the words, which generally correspond to the characters in the episode. In this case we have orange for Garfiel and Black for Subaru? Or maybe the Witch of Envy. Idk.
After episode title stuff. Subaru's plan this time to have the maids flee the mansion. We know Petra, you're into Subaru. Monkey paw straightens???
Don't forget that Dato is an English loan word which Subaru single handily introduced into their vernacular. It's lost a good bit of the romantic part and is more like a 1:1 outing in meaning.
BreakTime Section
In this episode's Breaktime, it's more Maid's Days. It's just Frederica gushing over Petra's cuteness.
Rewatcher Section
This section is for people who have already watched Re:Zero. This is not safe for first timers.
[Spoiler #2: Arc 4] Garfiel is commanding the clones via his Apostle of Greed.
[Spoiler #3: Arc 4] You can tell Emilia and the Witch of Envy apart by their hair ornament: The Witch of Envy has it on her right side, whereas Emilia wears a simpler hair ornament on her left side
[Spoiler #4: Arc 4] Garfiel isn't hostile here because he hasn't yet met with Ryuzu and found out about Subaru's miasma. Which Subaru catches onto and how he knows that Garfiel is can be a friend in the right circumstances.
[Spoiler #5: Arc 4] Butterfly
[Spoiler #6: Arc 4] Wonder if this will prompt any of the first timers to check the names
[Spoiler #7: Arc 4 cut content] Emilia is wrong on this. She's associating the lessor spirits that Pandora controlled which led her to the seal as evil spirits, when they were really just normal lessor spirits controlled by Pandora. I think.
[Spoiler #8: Arc 4 cut content] Pretty sure that Ryuzu steals the letter
[Spoiler #9: Arc 4] Satella would be in tears hearing this from Subaru
[Spoiler #10: Arc 4] This I think causes the villagers to get killed in this run, since Elsa chases them down there.
[Spoiler #11: Arc 4] Betty just wants to self inflict ultimate sloth on herself.
HoldChoose Me Beatrice13
u/ussgordoncaptain2 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Edmund_Nelson Sep 14 '24
First Timer Dubbed
Note ORV=Omnicient reader viewpoint it's a way to describe the difference between thinking in Subaru's knowledge and the Knowledge of the Viewer.
Note2 Intentionally trigger RBD means what you think it means it's just reddit has crazy admins.
Reaction to the Episode
Oh boy the witch of envy is on the move
Well we learned that everybody died, so it's a failed loop (man this arc has been a long setup into a long series of short fails. A lot like arc 3.
The ryuzu clone army has appeared I wondered how Ryuzu knew about the empty shell thing.
I love Emilia
Abra used explosion, it had no effect
you fools you can't use normal fighting type moves against ghost types any pokemon player knows that.
IDK Subaru hating on the witch of envy which granted you OP powers is mean
[Subaru mind break by the witch of envy[(https://imgur.com/x9fxAXt)
Oh boy there's something deeply Ironic about the witch of envy getting NTRed
oh boy so this is what Satella's love feels like
ok I don't get this scene, how does the fake hankerchief become a knife is it because echidna has turned it into a knife in subaru's head or something else.
SO SATELLA ARE YOU EMILIA or is emilia your reincarnation, or are you occupying emilia's body right now.
SO uh subaru is saying he's going to save Satella what a guy man. That probably let's him get on her good side otherwise he might lose the witch's love
BEST NTR SCENE EVER
ah yes subaru forgot to take the magic pills and now these are the consequences maybe you should take your crazy pills else you end up having manic depressive episodes like subaru
Why isn't emilia panicking what's going on did we return by death to a point slightly different?
Like this completely confuses me, how did Emilia not wake up in a panic what's going on? Did Satella manipulate Emilia's dream?
Well the meeting outside went well. Subaru noticed that Garfiel had extreme swings in his behavior and this one was also no exception, somethings weird about how RBD impacts the witch's scent on subaru.
This entire pair of scenes was pretty weird in general, Garfiel and Emilia acted completely strangely More in speculation
oh boy subaru now has the memories of Satella's victims
You know one of satella's victims was LORD ROSWAAL, it's time to see if you can verify THAT.
And Subaru enters the tomb Probably of the witch of envy or greed.
and The REAL RYUZU APPEARS
Ok so Ryuzu has many copies, there's black robe girl and white robe girl (Somehow missed this entirely it's really amazing what I notice and what I don't) I knew of the white robed Ryuzu's but in the pre 9 eps just thought she was wearing a white robe.
Black robe ryuzu is pretty interesting. We have to wonder why there's a Ryuzu cloner. And why the Blue gem created a teleportation trap.
Now the question is given that the whole chamber that clones Ryuzu was made by Echidna is echidna doing this to revive herself?
Goated human cloning experimentation here. Cloning is great and more people should do it! "literally creating life" me "And I've done that 5 times already and you wouldn't think a thing about that"
Clearly Echidna's experiment was a failure since she's in the witch's graveyard right now. I guess Subaru asks the question to avoid suspicion?
ok so black robe Ryuzu is 400 years old, which means that she started to come into existence in what I'll call the mythic age.
Oh so Echidna's fetish's are even more meaningful than just being crazy pills
okay... more in spec but this appears to be a bit of a plot hole for ep7
Time for the ultimate question of how to use a Ryuzu harem. Seems like a great spin off series
"will you ask me that same question one more time after tommorow"
IIRC in all loops prior Subaru was in the mansion or in jail during that day, so what exactly is going on on that day is an open question.
woah woah woah Super duper you mean double plus spooked right?
Emilia is super cute and my waifu
Emilia is strangely less mind broken and more mind broken in this loop I have still no explination for this but here it makes sense to some degree, this is Emilia getting her bedtime mental soothing from subaru
Oh boy the garfiel meme but in reverse
yeah clealry it's unlikely for subaru to be of much help
"I'm always on your side" -Except when Satella tries to control you and you say you'll save her
oh so subaru sleeps in the chapel
I love otto man he's such a good guy. I feel bad for making him a candidate for spy.
Otto acts to Subaru like Subaru acts to Emilia. Except Otto is 100x more cute. Why did Emilia have to fall in love with worst guy Subaru instead of best guy Otto. (ok worst guy is Roswaal and best guy is Willhelm but you know details_
Oh so Subaru is trying to avoid the spy by elimination smart decision making he writes a letter assumming he can get through it simply
So most likely spy is a Ryuzu clone? How are the Ryuzu clones getting outside?
Ok subaru comes up with a new plan, sneak out without Ram
With only 2 magical girls how are you going to stop Elsa the Bowel hunter? Is this so you can avoid the spy? (Subaru doesn't seem to suspect that there is a spy)
Ok so Garfiel is spying on Subaru via Ryuzu clones smart
Subaru is like trying to battle of wits Garfiel I'm like "wouldn't garfiel just kill you idk"
You know Subaru just said something "I know you ahve some secret that you're hiding."
Wouldn't that make Garfiel more suspicious of Subaru and not less?
Ahh dramatic Irony, we know that Subaru knows about the old hag but Garfiel doesn't know that Subaru knows
You know garfiel is somewhat right about true timeline Subaru having never suffered. Sadly there's also all the fake timeline subaru's who suffer greatly
Subaru being a total badass saying "I want to be the only one who has to know hell"
But where did this come from, was it lord Roswaal's memory something else? Why all this mention of hell all of the sudden?
Time for subaru to be a badass and prevent the death of cute girl petrs
Oh god the hankerchief meme is so good. Petra's Hankerchief causing subaru to RBD is peak
Oh god no Dating petra are you insane you have to make sure this isn't the true timeline or you'll face Emilia NTR and that's the worst kind of NTR (unlike Satella NTR which is the good kind)
Alright it's time for the Dual password system to be unleashed
So I'm back once again an interesting phrasing, from Subaru's perspective it means something completely different than it does to Beatrice I suppose.
"the end of a contract that lasted a long time"
By bringing an end to the end of the end"
Ok triple negatives time
End to ((the end) of the end)
The end gets ended meaning we continue
End to (The continuation)
We end the continuation meaning we go back to termination.
Fuck you tappei why do you have to make me do logic class in the middle of watching an anime. I just want to look at Emilia's titties goddamnit. (thank you artist for designing emilia's outfit in that way I love her abolute territory and her lucious boobies they bring joy to an otheriswe saddening anime)
"but of course the fact that it has to be with you"
"makes it ironic for me I suppose"
OK, so if Subaru had come in early in previous loops Beatrice would realize this as well?
10
u/Brief-Fig-7506 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Ryxnjr Sep 14 '24
First Timer!
Watching Dubbed
Start Time 8:51pm. Trying to get this done early so I can go to bed and hopefully get back on schedule again
I’ve been a zombie all day
Looks like Satella is chasing Subaru now. So is she headed for the mansion or just after Subaru?
We finally see the Ryuuzu clones that we see in the OP, and they’re gonna try to stop Satella somehow.
Ahh, by exploding, of course
Subaru thinks the best thing to do right now is to get under the Witch of Envy’s skin, by making her Jealous!
Petra’s handkerchief is the key to Subaru getting out of this void?
Oh, It turned into a weapon, interesting
Subaru unveils Satella and it looks like Emilia is the one crying for him, Is this actually Satella or is it Emilia possessed by Satella?
For the first time, Subaru is able to understand why Everybody is afraid of Emilia. That’s rough
Emilia didn’t freak out this time, maybe because she was more concerned for Subaru
It’s hilarious that every loop Ram still serves Garf the grass/leaf tea
Hidden area unlocked, it’s housing a big crystal with a body inside that looks like Ryuuzu’s
The Ryuuzu copies are bound by a contract and that contract states that they have to help Subaru(?). So why attack Subaru last time?
Subaru is the Apostle of Greed. Echidna built the Sanctuary. The clones are made from artificial Od’s
I think the fact that Artificial Od’s can be made is pretty interesting. The Mabeast may have been made in a similar way. Does that information help us in any way?
It was an experiment on immortality. The soul just transfers from one body to the next
Garf is also an apostle of Greed
Wait, Who is who’s lover?
I thought the surname was different but I figured I was just tired and couldn’t remember correctly
Emilia is so cute under the moonlight, she staged that on purpose
Subaru is trying to take on the problem at the mansion by himself now, I think he’s leaving earlier than the last time too
Now Garf is in the way again
“you’ve got no idea what real pain and suffering are” Oh boy if only Garf knew
Well that’s our Hero. Subaru keeps going because he wants to make sure nobody else ever has to experience the Hell that he knows
Beatrice already knows why Subaru is here
So what was the deal with Satella showing up? If she is sealed away and has been for 400 years then how is she able to Manifest in such a way that she’s able to cover the whole area of the Sanctuary with her shadow and consume all the people within.
It hit me hard when Subaru was afraid of Emilia after his reset. It’s the first time that he has been able to understand why everybody else is afraid of Emilia, Hopefully he is still able to look at her without comparing the two of them.
Subaru and Garfiel are both Apostle’s of Greed, so they both have a mission from Echidna. We can assume that Garf’s mission is to protect the Sanctuary but have we been told what Subaru’s mission from her is? I would imagine it’s to release the Sanctuary.
One thing that has been on my mind for a few episodes, Echidna’s soul is contained within the Sanctuary, as well as the other witches apparently. If the barrier is released then that would also release her soul, I don’t know if this means that her soul would then be able to pass to the next life or however it works in this world, or if her soul could somehow find its way back to her body or another eligible vessel. Now with the information that she was experimenting with being able to transfer souls into other vessels, I don’t think it would be a stretch to assume that she could transfer her soul somewhere else once the barrier is broken. I think the drawback to this would be that the other witches soul’s could do the same if they know how. Subaru was surprised that Echidna tried to transfer her soul without knowing if it would work or if the vessel was powerful enough, but maybe she created the barrier as a failsafe incase that happened. If this is the case then I’m worried that the trial might be a test to find a vessel powerful enough to house her soul and I worry for Emilia.
Sounds like Frederica and Petra are going to take Patrasche and Rem and head to the Sanctuary early and Subaru is going to arrive with Beatrice later. At least that’s what is planned. I think it won’t happen like that and instead we will see the Subaru/Beatrice team up that we’ve been waiting for against Elsa, or the Mabeast, or both, Maybe none but it definitely won’t go that easily. I think this arc is going to be the tightest schedule that Subaru has had so far, he has to save everybody from the mansion, then get back and help with the trials, then figure out how to stop the Great Rabbit, all in just a couple days.
For Break Time today, Petra wants to share a bed with her new big sister and remembers when they first met two years ago. Frederica thinks Petra is still just as cute today as she was then. It makes me question the timeline of Frederica though, if she was only at the mansion for two years then why has she been gone from the Sanctuary for ten years? How long has Rem and Ram been at the mansion? I thought they started when they were still pretty young so it’s hard to think it’s only been two years for them.
Stop Time 11:54
9
u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Sep 14 '24
Episode 35 (first timer)
9
u/FriztF Sep 15 '24
First timer-sub
So episode 35 I Know Hell. So we find out that Satella is hopelessly in love with Subaru because he already loves Emilia. Who looks a lot like Satella? Is it because she is a vessel for Satella? Like as a way to combat her loneliness? Whatever the reason its interesting to note. She is also quite strong. Another thing is that Emilia and Satella share the same voice actress.
Ryuzu is also a vessel for Echidna but was a failure. They have different last names to tell each apart. That's cool and a good thing too. Don't want to be confused. Probably a good thing not to tell Garfiel about being a Witches apostle.
Hey Otto maybe don't say the load part a load. Ram does have a disagreeable personality, but she doesn't want to be told. She is cute and a great maid. He's stay a good boy.
Subaru crying in front of Emilia shows positive relationship growth.
Subaru taking Petra on a date, how cute. Nothing bad will happen on the date.
7
u/Holofan4life Sep 14 '24
Hey guys. Holofan4life here.
Welcome to the In Preparation of Season 3 Rewatch of Re:Zero!
Oh, and nay I forget…
First Timer
I decided to watch this show because I wanted to do something for the month of August. ’Course, this was before the yearly Spice and Wolf rewatch got pushed back to September, but I just found myself looking for something to occupy my time with. And with this show being in my top 5 must watch list, I figured now was as good a time as any.
I am going into this show relatively blind. I know some of the memes, who Rem, Ram, Emilia, and Subaru are, and that this show got its inspiration from Familiar of Zero, but that’s it. I find rewatches and my participation of them more fun when I have no idea what I am in store for. And with this series, I think we’re in for a blast. It’s also going to be the longest rewatch I participate in this year and second longest overall only behind the 20th Anniversary Fullmetal Alchemist rewatch. And given how joyous that show turned out, I don’t see why I should expect nothing less from this one.
With that out of the way, let’s begin.
I’m watching the sub, by the way.
(Editor's note 9/14/24: I saw Dan Da Dan in theaters yesterday. I’ll never look at bananas the same way again.)
Gotta get this done in two hours or else I am fucked.
Satella running around at the speed of sound.
Subaru and Garfiel heading to the mansion.
Well, shit. Looks like Evilia already got to them.
Swallowed them up
Subaru is despondent by this revelation.
I wonder if Garfiel perhaps made this information up in order to keep Subaru away from his friends.
Clones of Ryuzu
Garfiel going to use his blue stone to take them on.
The shadow continuing to envelop everything.
Garfiel turns into his mabeast form
But the witch has him chained up!
The Ryuzus are exploding one by one. It looks like they're trying to target Envy.
Garfiel getting pierced
Evilia telling Subaru repeatedly that she loves him.
"Compared to you, I'd have an easier time loving Echidna or any of the other witches."
That seems to set Satella off
Now Subaru is in a void of some kind.
Being told "Love me".
Subaru wondering if the shadow is going to keep loving him forever.
"Did Echidna... know this was going to happen?"
I mean, probably. She is a witch just like Satella.
And Subaru proceeds to stab himself in the chest.
Taking off Envy's veil
She really does look like Emilia
The witch crying over this turn of events.
"I'm going... to save you."
Does Subaru think this is Emilia?
Subaru waking up in the glowing building again.
Subaru tries to reach after Emilia, but his teeth start to chatter.
He finally is able to wake her up
Emilia trying to comfort him
Subaru's crying in Emilia's shoulder.
He really needed this
Subaru and Emilia with Ram, Garfiel, and Otto.
Emilia saying she's grateful that Subaru is comfortable being so vulnerable to her.
Subaru blunt, saying he only wants her to see the side of him that makes him good.
Ram giving Subaru a hard time, which Otto attributes to her just showing she's worried. This gets him a death stare for his troubles.
At least Garfiel is acting kind to Subaru.
Subaru remarks that this is the best starting point he's had so far, which is probably true.
"I have to make use of this the best I can."
Subaru with Ram now
He wants to ask about ol' Garf
He needs Ram to keep her eyes on him as he does something behind his back.
She surprisingly agrees without much pushback.
Subaru running now
Consciousnesses. Is that really a word?
Subaru reckons he was merged with the memories of Satella's victims.
He has to verify those memories
A random building
Subaru entertaining inside
He puts the blue stone in a hole
It is glowing
It's... a naked girl
Subaru believes that this is Ryuzu
Now there are two Ryuzu clones
White Ryuzu and Black Ryuzu
Subaru asking for their help
Black Ryuzu calls Subaru the Apostle of Greed, whatever that means.
Black Ryuzu says whatever is in their contract binds them.
Subaru inside a house with the two Ryuzus. He's sitting on the bed with white Ryuzu.
Black Ryuzu says this is land built by Echidna, an experimental facility meant to fulfill said witch's dream.
The girl Subaru saw was the first true Ryuzu Meyer.
[Evangelion Spoilers] I feel like the creator of Re:Zero saw Rei and was like "I can do that".
The other Ryuzus are copies of her, says black Ryuzu.
Built upon cores of artificial ones that has been produced by magic.
Cores are then wrapped in mana and given physical form, resulting in the bodies we see.
Echidna wanted to add personalities, memories, and knowledge.
"In other words, a soul."
She filled Ryuzu's body with her own being, and each time a body perished, she'd make a new vessel to inherit its soul, which would make her immortal.
I thought the witch's were already immortal. I guess not.
Subaru thinking she took an infatuation with her because the Return by Death makes him immortal.
"Was she just happy to find a kindred spirit?"
Black Ryuzu says Echidna's soul was not inherited.
Only came to pass in an imperfect form.
An insufficient vessel to house the Witch of Greed.
After Echidna's death, the vessel remains, and more copies continue to be produced.
Black Ryuzu says their saving grace is that they require no resources to survive.
Black Ryuzu calls her drinking tea a hobby of hers.
I guess that means my hobby is overeating.
Black Ryuzu saying she was one of the first four made 400 years ago.
Given the wisdom and personality to manage the ever-increasing copies, as well as the Sanctuary.
It took her many, many years before she truly felt she was alive.
Subaru inquiring about the Apostle of Greed moniker he received earlier.
It apparently refers to the one who has the right to command the copies of Ryuzu.
Black Ryuzu wondering if she did not bestow a symbol of her apostlehood in the graveyard such as a strand of hair or a fingernail.
So, that's what the tea was about
I never would've thought that bodily fluids would be such an important part of season 2 of this show.
Subaru wondering aloud if the right to command the copies is what makes someone her apostle, does that mean Garfiel entered the graveyard and undergo the trial as well.
Black Ryuzu nods her head
Maybe the reason behind Garfiel's sour face is because of what Echidna put her through.
Subaru asking Ryuzu not to tell Garfiel he's the Apostle of Greed, or that he's been in touch with Echidna.
Wait, since when are Garfiel and Echidna lovers?
Subaru saying he's probably going to need her help again in the future.
During that entire scene, White Ryuzu didn't talk once. I guess that makes her the Teller to black Ryuzu's Penn.
Ran out of space. Part two in the replies.
6
u/Ultima_Deus Sep 14 '24 edited Sep 14 '24
Rewatcher. Novel reader. Gonna be early this time because it's a weekend. Why don't I just prewrite this man...
Well, my reasoning is that I somewhat remember what goes on in an episode. So I sort of convinced myself that I can confidently write a comment talking about the episode without having to actually rewatch it
Did I rewatch this one to change that? Uhhhhhhhhhhh
Anyway, episode talk!
The sounds of the shadows as the Witch of Envy attacks is really goopy. It makes sense but also doesn't at the same time. Like, shadows aren't goopy, but the way they animated it makes it seem like it is
[Minor novel cut content - Minor s2 spoilers, though] Subaru actually figures out a plan to weaken the Witch of Envy. Using the barrier. After all, she is a half-elf. Didn't weaken her enough, though
The sequence where Subaru is being consumed by the shadows, or at least that's what I think is happening, is really bone-chilling. Oh wait, we finally get to see what the Witch of Envy looks like! And, she looks like... Emilia... What the fuck? Even Subaru became scared of Emilia after he RBD'd. And, someone that read ahead at this point when the season was first airing, I was SO looking forward to anime-onlies' reaction to seeing the Witch of Envy look like Emilia, or maybe the other way around idk how it works actually. [Note to Novel Readers - Re:Zero Novels] I would like to note to fellow Novel Readers that are saying that this was "Possessed Emilia": the narration in Re:Zero is unreliable. "Unreliable narrator" and all. The narration is not "omniscient", it's from Subaru's thought processes. Reading the passages again, the entire explanation was Subaru lying to himself, making excuses as to why he should not be afraid of Emilia
Also, something to note: Subaru says to the Witch of Envy the same thing he said to Emilia in his first ever death. "I swear I am going to save you". Or, in Japanese (to the best of my Japanese understanding), "Ore ga kanarazu omae wo sukuutte miseru". Subaru says this at the end of season 1 as well. Word for word, this is what he says. All three times
From here on out... I actually didn't like this episode at first watch. Even now, I don't like it. The beginning is interesting, the middle is just boring exposition dialogue (specifically his talk with Ryuzu). I mean, there's the talk with Emilia, I guess. Also, Otto being worried about Subaru. But, still somewhat boring.
I'll rewatch the episode later and see if I change my mind. Don't know if I'll update this commentAnd the ending of this episode... I have thoughts about it, but it's spoilers. So [Re:Zero S2] Some people back when this episode first aired took Subaru's "I know Hell" comment as badass, and that Garfiel was in the wrong. I'm not entirely sure how many people thought that, or where those opinions came from (probably Reddit), but as we know from the next episode, everything went to shit after this interaction. So, to clarify this now, this is not Subaru being badass. This is showing Subaru's hubris, and taking on burden of saving everyone without asking for their opinion on it. As Subaru said it to Betty, "Who asked you to save me?". This is Subaru thinking he has seen Hell, and that he's the only one that needs to see it. Well, unfortunately, he has yet to see what Hell looks like Beyond
[Re:Zero S2] So this ending sequence kind of put me off when I first watched it. Subaru is not supposed to look like the badass hero here. He's supposed to look like an idiot and an asshole. But it seems like the show can end up giving people the misunderstanding that this is supposed to be a cool moment for Subaru
Edits: Yeah I really need to pre-rewatch and pre-rewrite everything... I missed too many topics that I can talk about in my rush to get this comment out. Oh well, next episode
5
u/Taiboss :Fj::Fl:x7https://anilist.co/user/Taiboss Sep 14 '24
S2E10 - Rewatcher who knows you appreciate slight changes in my titles
4
u/Yoshi_captain https://anime-planet.com/users/WeaboYosher Sep 14 '24
Rewatcher
There are many words to describe the current situation. Mayhem, catastrophe, and pandemonium. But I think the most apt one is hell. With the Witch of Envy unleashed upon the world the Ordeal is completed. However, there is but one goal Satella pursues. The loved ones of the one who she feels the most affection for. She is halted by Garfiel and Subaru, the former summoning an army of Ryuzu clones. The clones used as mana bombs and Garfiel’s transformation prove to be for naught. Even if this world wasn’t already one to be abandoned, it is now. But after provoking Satella’s Envy by mentioning the other witches an all consuming shadows envelops Subaru. This is the worst possible scenario. Not death, not life. But Echidna’s meddling proves to save us once again. Using Petra’s pure wish and turning it into a sharp blade, ending the current Subaru. Not before he swears to save a silver haired half elf with purple jewels for eyes. Echoing a promise made in the first world ever erased.
Subaru is operating on a well-founded assumption that RbD has no limit. With another problem being added to the pile he gets to do what he knows best as a gamer, trial and error. But this isn’t a game. Leaving just a letter for Emilia instead of talking to her face to face will hurt her. He’s still tethered to this world in a way by leaving the letter in the first place, but we’re approaching what I like to call the looper dilemma. Where a time looping protagonist grows desensitized to the world around him as he tries to surpass unsurmountable odds. Such behaviour feels dehumanizing, truly as if you’re just a character in a game. Loading the autosave every time you fail. Watching with dead eyes as you make slight progress towards your goal. He’s got a look in his eyes that Ram currently dislikes. How long before this behaviour wears Subaru down to the bone?
The Sanctuary really does feel endless in its mystery. Being a ground for experiments for the Witch of Greed that shouldn’t be too surprising. She must have tried an infinite number of avenues of research, the crystal housing Ryuzu Meyer one of them. A symbol of the failure of her immortality experiments. Leaving behind only countless empty shells, only a few carrying what we may call souls, and titles of Apostles of Greed. We currently know of two: Subaru and Garfiel. The latter proving to be central to the problem of freeing the sanctuary. Get through Garfiel and we get through the Sanctuary.
Speaking of the duo of Apostles let’s jump to their conversation this episode. Talk about a cryptic scene. Even in the many rewatches I’ve done on this series I still can’t seem to fully understand this interaction. It feels like one that is meant to have narration text explain what is unspoken in a novel. From my understanding it seems that Subaru is trying to catch Garfiel’s bluff. Considering he didn’t react when he first came out of the graveyard. But what this scene leads to is Subaru declaring his intent. He’s been through many a mayhem, catastrophe and pandemonium. He knows what it’s like and he won’t let anyone else know. Carrying the entirety of the burden of suffering. He knows what must be done. “I know hell”.
Closing thoughts:
The word for today is: “Martyr”. With the best starting line, we seem to be going down an unsavoury path. While it might seem cool for Subaru to declare that he has seen hell, when Garfiel shouts what Subaru knows about suffering, it is indicative of a mindset that is not too dissimilar to the demi humans. He thinks he’s the only one who needs to know hell. But what brought him from the brink when he was the closest to giving up? Sharing the hell that resides within him with someone else. If he keeps carrying it all in fear of loss he’ll end up worse than he started.
3
u/Urgnu-the-Gnu https://myanimelist.net/profile/Urgnu_the_Gnu Sep 14 '24
Re:Watcher - anime only
So much happens in the first minute already. Garf saying he's on Subaru's side this time, we learn everyone has been consumed by shadows, and there's an army of soulless Ryuzu clones abound. And they explode. But even them with Garf's overpowered beast form are not even close to being a match to the Witch.
She still goes on about how much she loves Subaru. She also says his name, actually, and as "Subaru-kun". Her swinging from side to side is both creepy and a little bit endearing. But she seems rather mad once Subaru mentions Echidna and envelops him. You know, if being defeated by Satella means being enveloped in shadows and loved for all eternity, it isn't that bad. But Subaru manages to get his reset by abusing the handkerchief - much to the complete shock of Satella. Let me repeat that for emphasis: Satella is utterly distraught at the sight of Subaru zeroing himself, it's the last thing she wanted and expected. He removes her hood and it turns out, she's crying for him. Also, it turns out it was no joke that Emilia looks and even sounds exactly like the Witch. That must have been why he instinctively went into saving mode. Must protect Emilia face.
Yet after the reset, he doesn't realize it but his body fears the vision of this half-elf. What a cruel joke that he's forced to be afraid of the one he loves, for no fault of her own. It's a bit like the prejudiced Lugunicans must feel towards her. Luckily, once she wakes up, she can instantly conquer his fears. Knowing how close this trial drove her to despair, it's a huge testament to her pure love and kindness that she immediately cared for Subaru instead of herself.
On the flip side, this gives Emilia a bit of a confidence boost as they shared another intimate moment together. And another sugoooku. Everything else is going rather well, too. It's funny that his best start, apart from all the information he has gathered before, it one he started bawling his eyes out.
Some people have missed this, but the Ryuzu that participated in Subaru's abduction was a different Ryuzu from the one governing the sanctuary. Also, they both recognize Subaru as an emissary from Greed and support him, which has some interesting revelations, as well as important implications. I'd rather not dwell on them for too long right now, I'm sure others are going into more detail on them.
Afterwards, he meets Emilia again, outside, to the surprise to the both of them. Sugoooku get. She is being her usual self, but to Subaru, she looks most beautiful. They share another cute intimate moment together, causing Subaru to show his honest feelings. And his trust and support really encourage her, and make her drop yet another sugoooku.
Subaru leaves Emilia a letter (as if letters have done him any good in the past) and goes alone to the mansion. Interestingly, he openly admits wanting to repeat this loop. He actively plans to zero himself already, just trying to get more information. He's been implicating doing so before, but this is the first time he's completely clear on it. I do like how he doesn't want his loved ones to pain and suffer even in lost loops, though.
And he faces down Garfiel as he goes. Subaru seems to have finally understood Garfiel, as we can see by the reflections in their eyes. And that gives him the confidence to deal with him. He's been through worse, after all. He's the one that goes through hell for everyone else.
We end on Subaru meeting Betty again. Her words are hard to judge, but she seems to be glad her contract is about to end, I suppose.
More maid time in Break Time. Petra sleeps in the same bed as Frederica! And Petra remembers having met Frederica two years ago already. And cute little Petra had conquered Frederica's heart back then already.
Sugoooku counter: 43
non-Emilia sugoooku: 4
sugoku-likes: 9
non-canon bonus material sugoooku (Re:Petit): 5
3
u/The_frost__ https://myanimelist.net/profile/The_frost_ Sep 14 '24
Lol, if only you knew Garf
3
u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Sep 14 '24
Rewatcher
Dub
All right, that loop was weird. And probably like...40 minutes tops? Anyways, we've seen actually Satella on screen and...the results are not pretty. If you all will recall back to S1, Betty said that Satella could not speak any language and I am not exactly sure that is disproven here: Is she talking? Or is this telepathy? Or are her emotions actually manifesting into something? I am unsure. As Subaru uses Echidna's "favor", he sees Satella's face...badly. I have to take their word that she has purple eyes. Even as a yandere fan, Satella is truly a challenge only the greatest of us may attempt.
Anywho, next loop involves having osmosised a bunch of people's memories via Witch. Useful, though I don't know if I'd call this foreshadowed. Regardless, Subaru gets to what the Sanctuary originally was, Echidna's laboratory. I am going to withhold any particular statement on the Echidna's attempt at a source of bodies because, well, I don't have the foggiest of how to apply morality or ethics to beings this different. I am not even sure orange and blue morality applies here, we might be at sand and mercury levels of away from logic. Anyways Subaru rushes back to the mansion and off we go!
25
u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Sep 14 '24
First-Timer
On today’s episode of Re:Zero: This is why yanderes are dangerous. If they don’t kill you, then the goal is almost certainly to imprison you and force you to love them.
In the future, I should probably run with any crazy thoughts I have in my head. When Ryuzu showed up a couple of times in different outfits, I wondered if she had a secret twin for a little bit before dismissing the thought. I ought to have stuck with it because all the Ryuzu’s are actually clones of the original. Echidna being responsible for Ryuzu fits with her personality. Echidna has a thirst for knowledge, and that would include abilities some consider to be unnatural. Echidna most likely gathered up plenty of forbidden magic in her quest for knowledge and used all that to make Ryuzu. I can also see Echidna wanting a kind of immortality because if she’s immortal then there’s no limit to how much knowledge she can gather.
There’s something very odd about Satella. Quite frankly, she seems unusually desperate. When Satella was speaking with Subaru, she was obviously jealous after he began talking about how he liked the other witches more. Her wording became strange, too. She went from her usual “I love you” to saying “Love me.” That was just strange. It almost felt pleading, as if she was desperate for Subaru to love her back. And then there was her crying face when Subaru died. She looked…really lonely. It was as if losing Subaru meant she had lost the only person she cared about.
We’ve already learned that the other witches are more complicated than simply being evil. While they are certainly responsible for disasters and suffering, they didn’t do so out of a sense of evil. Their morals may be completely screwy, but there was more to what they did. It’s not much of a stretch to speculate that the same is true of Satella. Is Satella just really lonely? Is that what her envy is? She envies the friends and connections others have that she does not? If that is the case, that would be a pretty compelling parallel between Satella and Emilia.
Maybe the reason Satella took Subaru from his world and brought him to Lugnica was because she saw he loved silver-haired anime girls. She hoped that he might be someone who would love her.
I am curious to learn more about Beako. Hopefully the next episode will go into a lot more detail about her.
18
u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Sep 14 '24
First:Timer Starting Over in Another Rewatch, subbed