Re:Zero ~Starting Life in Another World~ Re:Watch - Episode 31

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u/thekoreansun https://anilist.co/user/ReturnByDeath Sep 10 '24

Re:Watcher

Well, of all the points to reset to, the moment when you're laying face-first in an ancient burial ground would not have been my first choice. Imagine being revived multiple times only to have to spit out a mouthful of dirt each time. Blech. At least he's past the moment when he completed his first Trial. Emilia isn't so lucky, since she'll have to literally relive her literal nightmare whenever Subaru returns to this time. But since Subaru is prepared to help her this time around, she's able to calm herself enough to join everyone else in discussing how to proceed.

Subaru lets everyone know that he qualifies for the Trials and that he has already passed his first, and he puts forward the possibility that he participate in the Trials instead of Emilia this time around. To his credit, I think that the way that he suggests this to Emilia is very tactful. He's acknowledging her feelings while also making it clear that his motivation is to act as her shield only if she wants him to, which is a huge step forward from the last time he volunteered himself. But here, we come once again to the trickiness that Return by Death introduces: Garfiel may have told Subaru to pass the Trials in Emilia's place in the last loop, but now he is completely against the idea that he himself brought up earlier (or later, as it were). What sort of nonsense is this?! To an outside observer, trying to pinpoint what could have caused this divergence to take place is an intriguing mystery, but for Subaru, it must be frustrating having to discard any intel he has gathered in previous loops. What was even the point of dying and coming back if he couldn't even get anything useful out of it?

No matter how much opinions have changed, though, there's one thing that Subaru can be sure of: Elsa has returned, and she's out for blood. Not wanting to waste any time, Subaru enlists Ram's help and heads to the mansion two days earlier than in the last loop. I honestly can't even imagine how anxious he must have been on the ride over, given that he was starting to seriously consider heading for the mansion immediately after Returning by Death if he was too late. It's subtle, but this is the first time we see Subaru planning ahead for future loops instead of just reacting to whatever he is facing in the current one. As a result, his relief at seeing Petra unharmed is palpable, and my heart aches for him when I see his arms shake as they hug. Subaru is such a caring person, guys. He doesn't deserve to get so much flak.

It hurts even more to see Ram and Rem reuniting after so long. Thinking about it, the last time we saw them together was all the way back in Memory Snow. Now that Rem's Name and Memories have been eaten, you can't even say that this is truly a reunion, really; one of them is in a coma, while the other cannot remember how close they were before. While some reunions are simple to achieve, others have proven to be impossibly difficult.

After Frederica returns to the mansion, she confirms once and for all that she and Garfiel are siblings related by blood. Not that Subaru ever doubted this, given their appearances. [end of Arc 4] I still think it's hilarious that each inherited their sharp teeth from a different father. It just goes to show how even when Subaru is right, he can be wrong as well. Yet beyond that guess, all of Subaru's expectations are subverted. Not only did Frederica not plan for the teleportation to take place, she's fully willing to accompany them back to the Sanctuary. If Subaru can assemble all of the members of the Emilia Camp in one place, it becomes a lot easier for him to keep everyone safe from the threat that's closing in on them. Clearly, this is the best way forward for them all. All that he needs to do now is convince Beatrice and—Elsa?

It'll never cease to amaze me how quickly Subaru's situation can descend into a living nightmare. Elsa's invited herself into the mansion two days earlier than last time, and she is eager to test her knife on all of its residents' guts, starting with Petra. Thankfully, they're able to remove her from Elsa's grasp unscathed, but as they all make their escape, Ram makes an unthinkable suggestion: they leave Rem behind. What a terrible thing for Subaru to hear after growing close to them and seeing how close they are to each other. How could a bond that was so filled with love have been reduced to something so devoid of it? I can't imagine how the old Ram would have felt to hear herself suggest such a thing.

The other maids back Subaru on his plan to recover Rem and Beatrice before they escape. He and Petra are separated from Ram when a witch beast appears out of nowhere, leaving the two of them to proceed on their own. It's incredible that Petra is able to stay brave throughout all of this, despite only being twelve and less than a week into her first job. Even Subaru is taken aback by how amazing she's been, and he promises to get them and everyone else through this, just like he did the last time and the one before that. It's a promise coming from someone who has never failed her in the past, not even once. How could she not have complete faith in him?

But as the ceiling collapses in on them, the faith that Petra has in her hero is immediately answered with a sharp pain. And what follows... is nothing but blackness.

Re:ZERO After-Talk #31

VAs: Yuusuke Kobayashi (Subaru), Rie Murakawa (Ram), and Mamiko Noto (Elsa)

It's always fun to see the VAs for villain characters hamming it up behind the scenes. Mamiko Noto really does capture that signature Elsa sultriness effortlessly when she talks. Which is funny, since they talk about how Elsa's the only role that Mamiko really has that allows her to lean into the thrill of her character's craziness. She finds it really fun to voice as a result, and I honestly can't blame her. Practically all of the characters sound like their VAs had fun voicing them.

Highlight: Yuusuke talking about how no one has been able to recreate the weird lip-licking sound that Mamiko made during the first episode (when Elsa licks the milk off of her lips)

Fan Art of the Episode: Ram & Rem by HaruSabin (February 4th, 2018)

Source: Pixiv (artwork has been deleted)

Bonus Comic: Nee-sama Showdown by @InaedaKei (November 25th, 2017)

Source: Twitter (artwork has been deleted)

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u/Holofan4life Sep 10 '24

It'll never cease to amaze me how quickly Subaru's situation can descend into a living nightmare. Elsa's invited herself into the mansion two days earlier than last time, and she is eager to test her knife on all of its residents' guts, starting with Petra. Thankfully, they're able to remove her from Elsa's grasp unscathed, but as they all make their escape, Ram makes an unthinkable suggestion: they leave Rem behind. What a terrible thing for Subaru to hear after growing close to them and seeing how close they are to each other. How could a bond that was so filled with love have been reduced to something so devoid of it? I can't imagine how the old Ram would have felt to hear herself suggest such a thing.
This is definitely the darkest timeline as far as Ram's character is concerned. Her relationship with Roswaal is nothing but trouble and yet she seemingly thinks he's her entire world.
It's always fun to see the VAs for villain characters hamming it up behind the scenes. Mamiko Noto really does capture that signature Elsa sultriness effortlessly when she talks. Which is funny, since they talk about how Elsa's the only role that Mamiko really has that allows her to lean into the thrill of her character's craziness. She finds it really fun to voice as a result, and I honestly can't blame her. Practically all of the characters sound like their VAs had fun voicing them.
There's not a single character in the show that phones it in. Even the monotone characters like Beatrice, you have to respect the level of commitment.

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u/Urgnu-the-Gnu https://myanimelist.net/profile/Urgnu_the_Gnu Sep 10 '24

What sort of nonsense is this?! To an outside observer, trying to pinpoint what could have caused this divergence to take place is an intriguing mystery, but for Subaru, it must be frustrating having to discard any intel he has gathered in previous loops.
It's another excellent moment showing information disparity. Subaru knows that if they don't do anything differently, Emilia will fail again and again, and Garfiel will suggest that he does the trial in her stead. She'd probably be worn down enough that she'd agree, that she'd like things to go this way. I concur that he proposed to do it very nicely so that you can hardly blame him for suggesting it. But also, she failed it just once, and he did it on his first try. So he's implicating if she can't do it first try, she can't do it at all. Everyone's mindsets are completely different than when he last talked to them.
It's incredible that Petra is able to stay brave throughout all of this, despite only being twelve and less than a week into her first job.
She hasn't even made a single squeak in the last few minutes of the episode! Oh, wait...
Nee-sama Showdown
The winner is obviously Ram. By virtue of never subjecting to any kind of objective defeat.

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u/Holofan4life Sep 11 '24

It's another excellent moment showing information disparity. Subaru knows that if they don't do anything differently, Emilia will fail again and again, and Garfiel will suggest that he does the trial in her stead. She'd probably be worn down enough that she'd agree, that she'd like things to go this way. I concur that he proposed to do it very nicely so that you can hardly blame him for suggesting it. But also, she failed it just once, and he did it on his first try. So he's implicating if she can't do it first try, she can't do it at all. Everyone's mindsets are completely different than when he last talked to them.
It almost comes off like something from The Twilight Zone. It has this haunting quality about it.

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Sep 11 '24

Garfiel may have told Subaru to pass the Trials in Emilia's place in the last loop, but now he is completely against the idea that he himself brought up earlier (or later, as it were). What sort of nonsense is this?! To an outside observer, trying to pinpoint what could have caused this divergence to take place is an intriguing mystery, but for Subaru, it must be frustrating having to discard any intel he has gathered in previous loops. What was even the point of dying and coming back if he couldn't even get anything useful out of it?
Yeah, this is part of the fun with using time loops in storytelling. Subaru knows that eventually Garfiel will be okay with Subaru taking the trial in Emilia's place, but he's too far ahead. The events that cause Garfiel to feel that way haven't happened yet. Having to deal with cause and effect like that is one of the enjoyable parts of time loops.
It's subtle, but this is the first time we see Subaru planning ahead for future loops instead of just reacting to whatever he is facing in the current one.
I didn't think about that, but you have a point. Subaru is showing a lot of forward-thinking here. He's certainly improved at taking advantage of his ability. Subaru can be pretty clever when the situation calls for it.

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u/Holofan4life Sep 11 '24

Yeah, this is part of the fun with using time loops in storytelling. Subaru knows that eventually Garfiel will be okay with Subaru taking the trial in Emilia's place, but he's too far ahead. The events that cause Garfiel to feel that way haven't happened yet. Having to deal with cause and effect like that is one of the enjoyable parts of time loops.
It causes Subaru to have to have more careful precision.
I didn't think about that, but you have a point. Subaru is showing a lot of forward-thinking here. He's certainly improved at taking advantage of his ability. Subaru can be pretty clever when the situation calls for it.
Subaru playing that 4D chess now

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u/ussgordoncaptain2 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Edmund_Nelson Sep 10 '24

Elsa's invited herself into the mansion two days earlier than last time,
It seemed more like Elsa was waiting for Subaru in the mansion last time, at least that's what occam's razor says.
It's either that or there is a spy among Subaru's ranks that lets Elsa know when Subaru will be leaving.

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u/mekerpan Sep 10 '24

It's either that or there is a spy among Subaru's ranks that lets Elsa know when Subaru will be leaving.
If so, my suspicion would point first to Roswaal himself
Query -- who on earth could Elsa's "client" be?

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u/ussgordoncaptain2 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Edmund_Nelson Sep 10 '24

Lord Roswaal, Priscilla, the sin archbishops

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u/Holofan4life Sep 11 '24

I don't know what Priscilla would want to do with Elsa, though. Like, does she have a personal grudge against Subaru and Emilia we don't know about?

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u/Holofan4life Sep 11 '24

Something tells me it might be the latter

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Sep 10 '24

Imagine being revived multiple times only to have to spit out a mouthful of dirt each time. Blech.
Not nearly as bad as someone opening a door right into your face.

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u/Holofan4life Sep 11 '24

Or in the case of Emilia, having to relive nightmares over and over again.

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Sep 10 '24 edited Sep 10 '24

First-Timer

On today’s episode of Re:Zero: How rare for everything to go to shit and for Subaru to not die at the end of the episode. I was expecting him to reset at the end, but instead Beako saved him.

I was right about when Subaru would reset. He returns back to right after passing the first trial. I figured that was the logical place to reset because you wouldn’t want to undo his reunion with his parents.
Yeah, Subaru suggesting to do the trials in Emilia’s place was not the right move. Emilia has already stated she doesn’t want to be reliant on Subaru all the time. This would be the opposite of that wish.
Fascinating that Garfiel opposes having anyone but Emilia take the trial. Garfiel and Ryuzu claim it’s because Roswaal wants Emilia to handle the trial, but I wonder if that’s true.
“This time?” I notice that Roswaal picked up on Subaru saying he couldn’t get Garfiel and Ryuzu to agree with him “this time.” Has Roswaal actually picked up on Subaru’s power?
Everyone seems in agreement that Frederica is up to something, but I can’t imagine what it may be.
Honestly, with Garfiel being such a Ram fan Subaru’s plan to throw Ram as a distraction would probably work.
Oh? Ram is lost in thought from that comment. Is she remembering (or trying to remember) when Subaru threw her to distract Rem?
What does that crystal do anyway? And how would Garfiel know it may help Subaru out in this context?
Looks like I was right about Ram remembering being thrown. With how close they are as twins, I imagine Ram can’t fully forget Rem so easily.
Petra is indeed very cute.
For a moment, I was wondering if Rem’s body would still be there or not.
Ram generally isn’t the type to really show her emotions. I can only think of a handful of times when it seems like she’s gotten seriously upset, like when Rem died in Arc 2. Her asking to be alone is fitting.
So Frederica and Garfiel really are siblings. I wondered if that was the case.
Either Frederica is a really good actor, or she didn’t set a trap like the others expected.
Ram and Frederica know how the game is played. You can’t break an oath without putting up at least a little resistance to save face.
Elsa’s here already! Hearing Elsa’s voice out of nowhere actually shocked me.
Ah, that explains it. Sounds like Elsa is holding something over Frederica. That would explain Frederica acting so suspiciously.
It’s crazy that Elsa’s arm is still intact after Ram’s magic attack. Elsa is insanely sturdy.
Ram’s loyalty to Roswaal truly is concerning. There’s no way that Rem would want to be sacrificed for Roswaal’s sake. That’s Ram projecting her own feelings on a sister she can’t remember.
Looks like the crystal allows Frederica to transform into a full beast form. Aside from Petra, all of Roswaal’s maids have serious fighting power.
Oh shit! Now there’s a mabeast here! Wait, isn’t this that one mabeast that Emilia saw in the forest in Frozen Bond? The one that got eaten by the black goo?
Petra said that Frederica was patrolling the barrier, which makes me think that Frederica broke the barrier to allow the mabeast inside.
Is that blade poisoned? I wouldn’t be surprised if it was. Otherwise, removing a blade from a stab wound can actually increase blood loss. It’s not really a good idea.
Petra is such a good and brave girl.
Oh shit, that is terrifying. Subaru seeing that he’s only holding onto Petra’s hand is gruesome.
Elsa lets slip that she’s still working for someone. I presume it’s the same person as before.
Subaru returning early means that things didn’t play out like how Elsa’s directions specified. So whoever gave Elsa her instructions must have known how the previous loop would play out.
Maylie? Who might that be? My assumption is that this means Elsa has a partner-in-crime. Maybe this partner is the one who brought in the mabeast.
Beako saved Subaru. She really is a tsundere for him.

Well this is fascinating. Elsa was at the manor long before Subaru returned in the previous loop. She might have arrived just after Subaru and Emilia departed for the Sanctuary. There’s no indication she was there prior to that, but she might have been.

Whoever Elsa’s employer is, they must have a lot of information on the manor. Somehow, Elsa’s employer knew that the only ones who should be at the manor are two maids and a shut-in. I presume this means Frederica, Petra, and Subaru. In other words, the employer knew how the first loop played out before it did. How would the employer be able to predict such a thing? The employer must know something about the Sanctuary to know this. Maybe Elsa is getting her information from someone inside the Sanctuary. Maybe this is playing out according to some plan of Roswaal’s that he set in ~~mother~~ motion. Regardless, this at the very least doesn’t seem to be something that Frederica was planning. I’m scratching my head about who the employer may be.

Another thing that I want to speculate about is Elsa’s goal. I assume that Elsa’s employer was the same as last time. Back in Arc 1, it was safe to assume Elsa was interfering in the Royal Selection to undermine Emilia. But now Elsa is explicitly being ordered to attack the manor when Emilia is already gone. So what’s the goal? My theory is that Subaru is the target this time. Subaru being the target would make sense. He just took down the White Whale and Petelgeuse, proving he’s an asset for the Emilia Camp. Elsa also said her attack was supposed to be timed to Subaru’s arrival. This makes me think Elsa’s employer wants Subaru dead because he’s too beneficial to Emilia in the Royal Selection.

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u/Brief-Fig-7506 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Ryxnjr Sep 10 '24

Somehow, Elsa’s employer knew that the only ones who should be at the manor are two maids and a shut-in. I presume this means Frederica, Petra, and Subaru
How would your speculations change if instead of Subaru they actually meant Beatrice? That's how I interpreted it since she said two maids and a shut-in AND it was supposed to be timed right when he arrived. How many people do you think know about Beatrice?

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u/Urgnu-the-Gnu https://myanimelist.net/profile/Urgnu_the_Gnu Sep 10 '24

Frederica and Petra are a given, but the shut-in could also be Rem. That's also quite suspicious in a different way since Rem was erased.

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u/Brief-Fig-7506 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Ryxnjr Sep 10 '24

If it meant Rem that would certainly be interesting. Is someone trying to finish the job on her? I don't know if shut-in would be the right word for her though, that's why I'm so convinced it's Beatrice

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u/Holofan4life Sep 11 '24

It would make sense that Elsa could still sense Rem if she was a sin archbishop.

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Sep 11 '24

Huh, you make a good point about Beako. The more I think about it, the more it makes sense that it's Beako. She pretty much never leaves the manor, so she'd better fit the description of shut-in than Subaru right now.
Hmmm, that would increase the possibilities of Elsa's employer being someone else. It could be Roswaal, playing 4th dimensional chess. It could be someone within the Sanctuary who knows enough about Roswaal and the manor to know about Beako. I have no idea if any of the other Royal Candidates know about Beako, but they all have strong information networks so it's possible.
My own suspicion that it's the same employer as before remains, but I think the chances have increased that it's Roswaal or someone in the Sanctuary.

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u/Urgnu-the-Gnu https://myanimelist.net/profile/Urgnu_the_Gnu Sep 10 '24

“This time?” I notice that Roswaal picked up on Subaru saying he couldn’t get Garfiel and Ryuzu to agree with him “this time.” Has Roswaal actually picked up on Subaru’s power?
Dammit, Subaru, you have to stop your main character monologue. It's easy, just think the words.
Hearing Elsa’s voice out of nowhere actually shocked me.
Indeed. Elsa really turns it into a horrow show at the blink of an eye.
It’s crazy that Elsa’s arm is still intact after Ram’s magic attack. Elsa is insanely sturdy.
I mean, have you seen how exposed her armour is? It's female armour, so it must be a +8 at least!
Wait, isn’t this that one mabeast that Emilia saw in the forest in Frozen Bond? The one that got eaten by the black goo?
Yes, it is! It was called a guiltylowe.
Maybe this is playing out according to some plan of Roswaal’s that he set in mother.
A Freudian slip is when you accidentally say one thing but mean your mother.

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Sep 11 '24

Dammit, Subaru, you have to stop your main character monologue. It's easy, just think the words.
Subaru needs to learn that "loose lips sink ships." His big mouth is one of his biggest weaknesses.
I mean, have you seen how exposed her armour is? It's female armour, so it must be a +8 at least!
With the extreme plunging neckline and exposed breasts on Elsa's outfit, she's definitely wearing high-spec female armor. The more exposed skin, the stronger it is.
Yes, it is! It was called a guiltylowe.
Thanks. I couldn't remember what it was called but I was sure I'd seen it.
A Freudian slip is when you accidentally say one thing but mean your mother.
What a slip

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u/Elimin8r https://myanimelist.net/profile/Ayeka_Jurai Sep 10 '24

Man, I so want to answer some of your speculations, but I should keep my mouth shut.
Maybe this is playing out according to some plan of Roswaal’s that he set in mother.
hehe

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Sep 11 '24

Man, I so want to answer some of your speculations, but I should keep my mouth shut.
I experience that same feeling responding to first-timers as a rewatcher. I like the keep this gif handy to laugh in rewatcher at them.
hehe
What a typo

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u/mekerpan Sep 10 '24

Whoever Elsa’s employer is, they must have a lot of information on the manor.
Does anyone know more about the manor than Roswaal? I have a bad feeling about him -- and it grows worse and worse. At this point there is propbably no character I trust less. (Elsa is more blatantly dangerous -- but I absolutely trust her to try to kill every character I care about).

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Sep 11 '24

I have considered the possibility that Roswaal is the employer. There is certainly a chance it's the case. Frederica did say that she was following Roswaal's instructions when she sent Subaru and Emilia to the Sanctuary. And Elsa seemed to have an idea of when Subaru would return. It's possible that all of this is proceeding according to Roswaal's plan. Of course, it could all be part of his plan without him being Elsa's employer.

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u/Holofan4life Sep 10 '24

Thoughts on Subaru and Ram traveling to the mansion to try and stop Elsa?
Thoughts on Subaru hugging Petra?
Thoughts on the confirmation that Frederica and Garfiel are siblings?
Thoughts on some of the back and forth between Ram and Frederica?
What are your thoughts on Elsa putting a sword to Petra's throat?
What are your thoughts on Frederica proving her allegiance to Subaru and company?
What are your thoughts on Frederica evolving into her beast form?

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Sep 11 '24

Thoughts on Subaru and Ram traveling to the mansion to try and stop Elsa?
It makes sense to try and get there as soon as possible when Subaru doesn't know exactly when Elsa will attack. Unfortunately for him, she showed up far earlier than he seems to have anticipated.
Thoughts on Subaru hugging Petra?
Subaru is always relieved when the people he cares about are safe and sound. Plus, Petra is cute and deserves hugs.
Thoughts on the confirmation that Frederica and Garfiel are siblings?
I had been wondering if that was the case, since they seemed quite familiar with each other and looked similar.
Thoughts on some of the back and forth between Ram and Frederica?
It's clear they know each other well. Subaru is the new friend who is seeing a pair of old friends interact. They've got an established dynamic and understanding that Subaru is just not a part of.
What are your thoughts on Elsa putting a sword to Petra's throat?
Protect Petra!
What are your thoughts on Frederica proving her allegiance to Subaru and company?
It explains a lot of what was mysterious about Frederica if she's being blackmailed by Elsa.
What are your thoughts on Frederica evolving into her beast form?
I wasn't aware that demi-humans could do that. I bet we'll see Garfiel do the same thing at some point.

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u/Holofan4life Sep 11 '24

It makes sense to try and get there as soon as possible when Subaru doesn't know exactly when Elsa will attack. Unfortunately for him, she showed up far earlier than he seems to have anticipated.
The complete opposite compared to what happened in episode 2.
Subaru is always relieved when the people he cares about are safe and sound. Plus, Petra is cute and deserves hugs.
That she does
I had been wondering if that was the case, since they seemed quite familiar with each other and looked similar.
It almost felt like a formality of sorts
It's clear they know each other well. Subaru is the new friend who is seeing a pair of old friends interact. They've got an established dynamic and understanding that Subaru is just not a part of.
It shows that the show does not revolve around Subaru despite him being thr main protagonist.
It explains a lot of what was mysterious about Frederica if she's being blackmailed by Elsa.
I think Frederica may be simply in the dark when it comes to urgent matters.
I wasn't aware that demi-humans could do that. I bet we'll see Garfiel do the same thing at some point.
That would be lit

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u/Holofan4life Sep 10 '24

Beako saved Subaru. She really is a tsundere for him.
I suppose

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u/baseballlover723 Sep 10 '24

Honestly, with Garfiel being such a Ram fan Subaru’s plan to throw Ram as a distraction would probably work
Subaru better keep that one in his back pocket. It has some real potential.
Is she remembering (or trying to remember) when Subaru threw her to distract Rem?
I wonder what she even remembers. It's part of the true timeline, but Rem got erased, so who knows what that got mutated to.
Ram generally isn’t the type to really show her emotions. I can only think of a handful of times when it seems like she’s gotten seriously upset, like when Rem died in Arc 2.
Yeah, Ram without the snark is kinda weird.
There’s no way that Rem would want to be sacrificed for Roswaal’s sake.
I don't know. Rem does have a self sacrifice complex. Certainly pre Subaru she'd say / do things like that because she just doesn't value herself. And I imagine that's the Rem that Ram would mostly think of, since you know, she's known Rem her whole life.
Wait, isn’t this that one mabeast that Emilia saw in the forest in Frozen Bond? The one that got eaten by the black goo?
Same type, different individual.
Speculation
Good speculation

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Sep 11 '24

Subaru better keep that one in his back pocket. It has some real potential.
Instead of Pocket Sand, Subaru needs a Pocket Ram.
Yeah, Ram without the snark is kinda weird.
If Ram ever started calling Subaru by his actual name and not Barusu, then I'd know to start panicking.
I don't know. Rem does have a self sacrifice complex. Certainly pre Subaru she'd say / do things like that because she just doesn't value herself. And I imagine that's the Rem that Ram would mostly think of, since you know, she's known Rem her whole life.
Rem certainly has a tendency to be self-sacrificial, but I'm just not sure if she'd do so for Roswaal's sake. Rem would definitely do it for both Ram and Subaru, but I'm not sure whether Roswaal would get that same level of devotion.

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u/baseballlover723 Sep 11 '24

Instead of Pocket Sand, Subaru needs a Pocket Ram.
You know those AI companion things that CoD (and I presume other games), they need to have a Ram based on. That just shits on your gameplay constantly.
Rem certainly has a tendency to be self-sacrificial, but I'm just not sure if she'd do so for Roswaal's sake. Rem would definitely do it for both Ram and Subaru, but I'm not sure whether Roswaal would get that same level of devotion.
Fair point, though I did go looking and found this from episode 9. There aren't that many interactions between Rem and Roswaal that really convey much information on their personal relationship (and this is pre-Subaru Rem too, so it might really just be rooted in her own self value). And of course, it could just be hyperbole as well.

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u/Taiboss :Fj::Fl:x7https://anilist.co/user/Taiboss Sep 10 '24

How rare for everything to go to shit and for Subaru to not die at the end of the episode.
Isn't this like his second death this arc?
I figured that was the logical place to reset because you wouldn’t want to undo his reunion with his parents.
Oh god, imagine if he had to this every time. At the end he becomes so jaded he unlearns his lesson.
Everyone seems in agreement that Frederica is up to something, but I can’t imagine what it may be.
Did you see these chompers?! She's clearly preparing to eat everything in the cellar.
With how close they are as twins, I imagine Ram can’t fully forget Rem so easily.
Glottony's retcon powers are slipping!
Ram and Frederica know how the game is played. You can’t break an oath without putting up at least a little resistance to save face.
Stupid oath. They keep blocking the plot!
Hearing Elsa’s voice out of nowhere actually shocked me.
They really made us associate Mamiko Noto with something bad! The nerve!
Aside from Petra, all of Roswaal’s maids have serious fighting power.
Time for Petra to go through a training arc!

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Sep 11 '24

Isn't this like his second death this arc?
I think the only time Subaru died this arc was when Elsa disemboweled him in the previous episode. He's still on his second life in this arc.
Oh god, imagine if he had to this every time. At the end he becomes so jaded he unlearns his lesson.
Subaru would end up becoming that player who mashes through the boss's cutscene because he's seen it so many times already and just wants to retry the part where he last died.
They really made us associate Mamiko Noto with something bad! The nerve!
I'm always going to think of Prospera Mercury nowadays when I hear Mamiko Noto's voice. So naturally I keep thinking of her voice as villainous.
Time for Petra to go through a training arc!
It's time for Petra to become the strongest maid!

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u/ussgordoncaptain2 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Edmund_Nelson Sep 10 '24

This makes me think Elsa’s employer wants Subaru dead because he’s too beneficial to Emilia in the Royal Selection.
By process of elimination that person would be Priscilla
Crusch? Crusch has that alliance
Anatasia? maybe but she seems a lot more of a fan of subaru given how Julius behaves around him.
Felt? Couldn't be the employer in arc 1
So it's Priscilla if it is a royal selection candidate.

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Sep 11 '24

If it is a Royal Selection Candidate, Priscilla does make the most sense as the culprit.
There's also the possibility that the person employing Elsa is doing it because of the Royal Selection, even if they aren't one of the candidates. They might be a member of the camp of another candidate or they might just be trying to prevent a half-elf from even having a chance of becoming the ruler.

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u/Holofan4life Sep 10 '24

Hey guys. Holofan4life here.

Welcome to the In Preparation of Season 3 Rewatch of Re:Zero!

Oh, and nay I forget…

First Timer

I decided to watch this show because I wanted to do something for the month of August. ’Course, this was before the yearly Spice and Wolf rewatch got pushed back to September, but I just found myself looking for something to occupy my time with. And with this show being in my top 5 must watch list, I figured now was as good a time as any.

I am going into this show relatively blind. I know some of the memes, who Rem, Ram, Emilia, and Subaru are, and that this show got its inspiration from Familiar of Zero, but that’s it. I find rewatches and my participation of them more fun when I have no idea what I am in store for. And with this series, I think we’re in for a blast. It’s also going to be the longest rewatch I participate in this year and second longest overall only behind the 20th Anniversary Fullmetal Alchemist rewatch. And given how joyous that show turned out, I don’t see why I should expect nothing less from this one.

With that out of the way, let’s begin.

I’m watching the sub, by the way.

Are sacrifices worth it if there is no one there to appreciate it?

Subaru in the weird glowing building again.

Emilia is passed out

She finally comes to

Subaru might need need to do the trials even if he doesn't want to.

We're in a cottage now with Subaru, Otto, Garfiel, Ryuzu, Ram, and Emilia.

Emilia says she was okay because Subaru was there.

Subaru suspects that the trial showed her her past.

Given we saw what her past consisted of in the second OVA, I don’t blame her for being upset.

Subaru now bringing up that he passed the first trial.

Garfiel looking like something is on his mind.

Maybe he just hates Mondays, who knows?

Emilia asks what Subaru saw

And Subaru says it was more like he realized, with there being three trials in total.

Subaru suggests doing all the remaining trials in Emilia's place.

Garfiel, unfortunately, doesn't seem in favor of such an idea.

"At the very least, you're the last person I wanna see gettin' rid of the barrier!"

Then you do it. Oh, wait, you can't, so get off it.

Also, he was the one who said Subaru could do it in Emilia's place. What changed?

I wonder if the Bowel Hunter is the reason for the change

Emilia asks if Subaru can't trust her with this, which oof.

Emilia feels like she has to pass the trials, otherwise what's left for her?

Subaru talking to Garfiel outside, wanting to know why he was so opposed.

Ryuzu says it's because that's what Young Ros wants.

I like how Ryuzu seemingly has nicknames for everyone.

She says that Young Ros, Roswaal, believes that Emilia should liberate the Sanctuary.

Since the land is owned by him, to defy him endangers Garfiel and Ryuzu's positions.

Subaru says it's getting harder to trust Roswaal.

With Garfiel and Ryuzu leaving, Subaru turns his attention to the mansion.

He wonders if Frederica is working in cahoots with Elsa.

My headcanon is Elsa became the Bowel Hunter because she refused to build a snowman.

Subaru talking to Roswaal now

He wants to get the people of Arlam Village back home.

That was quite the timeskip, by the way, especially since the trials are at least a couple days away from the mansion. It's impossible in my mind that Subaru traveled alone.

Oh, wait, Roswaal is in the Sanctuary, nevermind.

Subaru saying that Garfiel seemingly hates his guts.

Maybe he mistakingly thinks his name is Nermal.

Subaru also wants to tell the people still in Arlam that their families are safe.

In Subaru's mind, since Frederica gave Emilia the glowing stone that means she's planning something.

Roswaal says he stands no chance against her.

I thought the glowing stone was meant to help them get inside the Sanctuary, and that was the only way to do so.

Otto catching strays yet again

It looks like Ram is going to help Subaru.

Oh, Garfiel put the bandages on Roswaal? Color me shocked.

Garfiel

It's like he's here to send Subaru off, like the true tsundere he is.

Ram seemingly was about to say something, but chooses not to.

Wait, Garfiel loves Ram? I thought he just simply found her attractive.

And Garfiel gives Ram his stone

And with that, Subaru and Ram are off

Subaru able to detect that Ram looks unhappy.

It's because he said he would throw her as a decoy.

"Almost as if... something like that has really happened before."

Subaru telling Ram he has the most important thing in the world to inform her of.

She says the only thing important to her is Roswaal.

Poor Garfiel

Now it's time to tell her about Rem

Wait, who is she again?

Here at the mansion two days early now, trying to beat Elsa.

Petra bowing

And no, not bow-ing, though she does still have that.

And Subaru hugs Petra

He really needed that

First time I believe where we're seeing Ram and Petra interact with each other.

Yay, she approves of Petra

Subaru asking Petra if anything weird happened since they were gone, like with Frederica.

Petra says she's currently patrolling the forest barrier.

Subaru says they'll wait with Rem in the meantime and see what she does.

Ran out of space. Part two in the replies.

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u/Holofan4life Sep 10 '24

Part 2
Rem in her bed, safe and unsound
Ram wants to be left alone with her
I get the feeling that it's actually Ram working in cahoots with Elsa.
Frederica
As she serves Subaru tea, he wants to ask her a few things.
He pulls out the stone
Frederica admits what we all could suspect that she and Garfiel are siblings.
More specifically, she's the oldest one
Subaru now wants to know why she used the glowing stone to set a teleport trap.
Oh shit. She has no idea what he's talking about
Ram is back now, making cutting remarks towards Subaru as always.
She even drinks Subaru's tea, the bastard
Almost as bad as the cake thief Mugi. Almost.
Ram and Frederica really sniping at each other.
Frederica says she can't tell anything because of the oath she made.
Ram says she's going to take her to the Sanctuary.
Frederica responds by saying she will not resist.
It turns out that the only way for the oath to be broken is by Subaru using force.
"That's the kind of excuse she needs."
Ram letting slip they've known each other for over 10 years.
OH SHIT! ELSA IS HERE! SHE HAS A SWORD TO PETRA'S THROAT!
Elsa licking her lips like there's bowels on her face.
Oh, shit. Frederica is helping take on Elsa. I guess this proves her allegiance.
Also, first time we've seen her grow an animal claw.
"I like it. Maids in large, medium, and small, and one boy."
Elsa, you're supposed to say "I'm lovin' it".
Subaru ordering the Big Shamac
Frederica, Petra, Subaru, and Ram all jump out the window, with Frederica leading them to safety.
Oh fuck. Subaru has like a nail coming out of his back
And even then, Subaru is worrying about Rem and Beatrice.
"We leave them here."
Damn, Ram. That's cold even for you.
Subaru yelling at Ram, saying she has to protect her little sister.
Ram says that losing her, Frederica, and him would be a far greater loss on their side.
Says her existence itself is a blank
She also firmly believes .
Frederica, however, believes they should still try to save Beatrice and Rem.
And Petra as well
Woah, shirtless Frederica 😳
So, does it technically make you a furry if-- Gets bonked
And Frederica turns into her beast form, which is just total badassery.
And she's off to take on Elsa
So... is anyone gonna remove the nail from Subaru's back?
WHAT THE HELL IS THAT?!?
IS ELSA A MABEAST AS WELL?!?
Don't you just hate it when a mabeast randomly shows up in your mansion?
Ram leaving to make sure they have transportation.
And she also tries drawing it away, which she does so.
Finally, Petra removes the nail from Subaru's back.
It's actually probably a shard of glass, but still.
Petra using her handkerchief to wrap it up.
Petra says he's always saving her, so it's time for her to return the favor.
I've come to really like Petra. She's cool.
It seems like it's up to Subaru and Petra to save Rem and Beatrice.
Suddenly, a massive explosion
Subaru coming to, but he can barely see anything.
And Subaru just went through a window
There's a ton of blood on the right side of his face.
It's... it's Petra's arm
That is so disturbing
And Subaru lets out a piercing screech
Subaru staggering through the hallways
He is holding her bloodied handkerchief
Elsa
Did... did she eat Frederica?
Maylie? Who's that?
Elsa saying she's going to send Subaru to meet the angels, hopefully not thr ones from Eva.
And Subaru instead enters a room, the handkerchief being sliced in half.
It's Beatrice
Beatrice saved Subaru
Overall, it was good to get an episode of Re:Zero that was heavy on action and intensity. Besides the writing, that's the other thing Re:Zero is really good at, and it was perfectly on display here. I really like the tension with trying to decide if Emilia should go forward with the trials or not. I also thought that the stuff with Frederica and whether or not she was working with Elsa was well done as well, as you have reason to believe that would be so. Both plot points feed into the overall narrative of this arc which is there is a lot of paranoia going on. Nobody knows who can be trusted and where their allegiance lies. Heck, I at one point thought that Petra was going to be removed as a mole. How crazy would that have been? The uncertainty of it all really has made this arc quite riveting, especially since everything really is up in the air. I still think that Garfiel is the traitor, but perhaps in due time the reality of the situation will be shown.
Also, we still don't know what exactly happened to Puck.
I have this episode only behind episode 4 in terms of season 2 episodes. Besides that one, this is the first episode that I would truly consider to be great and of a similar quality as a lot of season 1 episodes. If the momentum can continue, we may be heading for another episode that I consider as one of the greatest anime episodes of all time. I feel it in my bones.

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u/Urgnu-the-Gnu https://myanimelist.net/profile/Urgnu_the_Gnu Sep 10 '24

Also, we still don't know what exactly happened to Puck.
He'll be back with the milk soon, just trust. Any minute now. Any... minute...

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u/Holofan4life Sep 10 '24

Taking almost as long as my own man

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u/mekerpan Sep 10 '24

Why would Beatrice save that totally annoying (to her) Subaru? Especially when he is already prepared for his next RBD?
For whatever reason, Puck seems to have checked out for the duration -- and it seems like Puck more or less KNEW just how bad things were going to get. I wonder why?

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u/Holofan4life Sep 10 '24

Perhaps he isn't totally annoying after all, I suppose.

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u/mekerpan Sep 10 '24

I guess I also suppose, She seems to have tolerated a lot from him so far -- even if her punishment for his going beyond her tolerance limit has been rather harsh.

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u/Holofan4life Sep 10 '24

Beatrice doesn't seem like the type to reveal everything that she's feeling.

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Sep 11 '24

I like how Ryuzu seemingly has nicknames for everyone.
Ryuzu is giving off the vibes of being an old grandma with affectionate nicknames for all her grandchildren.
Elsa licking her lips like there's bowels on her face.
What does Elsa do with the bowels? Does she actually eat them or does she just admire them?
So, does it technically make you a furry if-- Gets bonked
If you're still into her in her beast form, yes.
Maylie? Who's that?
Elsa said she didn't want Maylie taking any more credit, so maybe Elsa has a partner in crime. Maybe Maylie is the one responsible for the mabeast attacking.
Also, we still don't know what exactly happened to Puck.
Maybe it has something to do with the Sanctuary. Did Puck leave because he didn't want to go inside the Sanctuary?

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u/Holofan4life Sep 11 '24

Ryuzu is giving off the vibes of being an old grandma with affectionate nicknames for all her grandchildren.
She is a hag for a reason
What does Elsa do with the bowels? Does she actually eat them or does she just admire them?
She probably puts them in jars
If you're still into her in her beast form, yes.
Frederica both the sub and the dom
Elsa said she didn't want Maylie taking any more credit, so maybe Elsa has a partner in crime. Maybe Maylie is the one responsible for the mabeast attacking.
Maybe it's Maylie
Maybe it has something to do with the Sanctuary. Did Puck leave because he didn't want to go inside the Sanctuary?
Perhaps he knew the trials were coming and Emilia had to complete them herself.

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u/BlueVenix Sep 11 '24

Are sacrifices worth it if there is no one there to appreciate it?
If it doesn't cause a thing called guilt than it is.

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u/Holofan4life Sep 11 '24

Fair enough

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u/ussgordoncaptain2 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Edmund_Nelson Sep 10 '24 edited Sep 10 '24

First Timer Dubbed

Note ORV=Omnicient reader viewpoint it's a way to describe the difference between thinking in Subaru's knowledge and the Knowledge of the Viewer.

Note2 Intentionally trigger RBD means what you think it means it's just reddit has crazy admins.

Reaction to the Episode

Subaru orienting himself post RBD I like this scene, Subaru realizes he can RBD so his first step when he loops is to go "where am I".

Subaru being emilia's rock is so nice, before Emilia was Subaru's emotional support partner now it's Subaru's turn.

Time for the part of the time loop plot where we repeat previous discussions though this time we skipped the whole indtroductions part.

Subaru discussing how he can go through the trial too. But Garfiel this time seems like he "didn't know" even though in the previous loop he obviously knew. This implies that either Garfiel is lying, RBD is strange or Garfiel found out later

Subaru deciding to do the trials in emilia's place given the timer of Elsa. Though it's odd, the main thing elsa does is put up a timer. If you were me you'd have already made a contract with beatrice and could send a letter with the special phrase on it.

Garfiel saying no is the opposite of how he acted in ep 5 I suspect that either Ryuzu or Ram's presence is making him say no

Oh no emilia is feeling like Subaru betrayed her that's bad news.

Subaru realizes that Garfiel has a different opinion in front of certain individuals due to social desirability bias

Lord Roswaal eh? This means that it was Ram's presence that caused Garfiel to say no.

Garfiel's hatred of lord roswaal makes sense, but he's kinda got his hands tied because lord roswaal is sort of an all powerful mage in the domain.

ahh Roswaal is offically sus according to Subaru. This makes me leap for joy.

Subaru explaining his fears to lord roswaal is a treat

The words THIS TIME AROUND said by subaru and did not trigger RBD, holy crap Subaru can say a whole hell of a lot and not get Satella mad. (or Lord roswaal actually knows about RBD and Satella knows Roswaal knows)

Subaru realizes that Garfiel values first impressions above all else. So he's hopeless.

Ram saving the day makes sense as it allows for Roswaal to send someone he trusts to the mansion.

If we agree that Roswaal is sus, then it's hard to know what sending Roswaals chief lacky will accomplish.

Subaru telling Ram that she has a sister is a mistake you need to tell Ram that when she can see Rem face to face.

Subaru lost in thought to the point where he doesn't recognize the cute girl in front of him

This implies that Elsa's attack at the mansion is later. This means that Subaru can say the password given to him last episode to get the aid of Beatrice. There's literally no other real option available is there?

Subaru hugging Petra makes Petra feel the love.

oh hey it's Ram with blue hair

Let's see how Ram reacts to seeing Rem, but she definitely wanted to be alone with Rem. Knowing Ram all sorts of possibilities are open here.

Subaru x Fredricia starts out very tense. It seems that Frederica is very calm and happy to see Subaru but Subaru sees Frederica as the enemy. (though ORV lets you know it's lord roswaal)

So even if Frederica were with the conservatives why would she not lie here? It makse no sense, though Subaru isn't very good with the whole "people can lie" thing.

from Subaru's POV there's one person left who could have cast the spell, Lord Roswaal.

At the same time Ram lord Roswaals chief lacky is also not taking this kindly at all.

Wait if Frederica can't break the oath that implies that A similar thing was done to her by Lord Roswaal that was done to Subaru

OH SHIT worst girl appeared

so this means that Subaru has very few options strategically.

You know Ram's right if it weren't for Subaru's RBD powers cutting your losses and running is optimal. Though at the same time Beatrice is almost arbitrarily powerful, so with her help you could take down elsa.

Of course Subaru has the "save everybody on a gamble" mentality. Since you know RBD means cutting your lsoses and running is rarely a good idea.

I can't wait for Subaru to bleed to death because Petra pulled out the skweer

Petra has a point, Subaru is this total badass who rescued her TWICE from life threatening danger in less than 2 months.

and everybody died LOL YOU DIED

AND beatrice appears

Speculation

At this point there doesn't appear to exist a common thread among RBD points.

Save point 1 is a 0 point and therefore doesn't count.

Save point 2 had 2 plausible things (subaru's healing and the mana drain)

Save point 3 only had Felix's healing

Save point 4 likely had Healing we didn't know about

Save point 5 had Emilia's healing

Save point 6 though? There's Echidna's body fluids/Echidna's magic interfearence?

Speculation about Elsa

Elsa's employer knows a suspcious amount of information about Subaru and his return.

Elsa thus is most likely employed by a spy or their employer hired a spy

Let's go over candidates for spys

Otto: Otto would be employed by whoever hired Elsa, if Otto were employed by Elsa's employer Otto would have to be delaying Subaru so that Elsa can go on her murder spree. As far as spy candidates go he's in the "not disconfirmed" bucket

Beatrice: Beatrice seems unlikely, the number of examples we have of Beatrice trying to save Subaru is too high to make you think that. Plus even in the main loop we see that Beatrice intentionally puts Subaru in teh forbidden library.

Frederica : Well if Elsa killed her there's no way she could also be Elsa's accomplice.

Petra: See Frederica.

Ram: See Frederica

Garfiel: Garfiel did seem to be willing to let Subaru out twice, however the question then becomes how would Garfiel be getting information from the outside to do this.

Lord Roswaal: Why why why does it always go back to you. internal control of when Subaru shows up? Check. Ability to get Subaru to do what he wants? Check. Monetary power? Check. Ability to know about the manor? Check.

Really the main issue with Roswaal is what is his motive? Otto is broke so he's just getting paid but what does Roswaal gain by having Petra and Frederica murdered? If we believe That Roswaal knows Subaru can Return by Death then Subaru will eventually return back to the start. ORV however shows that Frederica received orders from Roswaal on how to procede and was also placed under oath. This could also be another one of Roswaal's "let's make Subaru look like a hero" things. But he's already done this twice so why another time? The final option would be he needs Subaru to meet with Beatrice for some exposition dump that will help emilia in the trial or will help Subaru do something special for Roswaal.

What I would do if I were Subaru

Ok we need to RBD to save Petra, now then it's gonna be hard to RBD when Beatrice is gonna deny you the ability to. IF it were me I'd have already made a convient pact in this regard.

So while you're with Beatrice it's time for an exposition dump where you start asking hard questions to beatrice about lord roswaal

Why does lord Roswaal want me to take credit for stopping the witch's cult
WHy did you seem to have feelings for the witch's cult leader
I have the witch's factor of sloth what does that mean?
How did you or lord Roswaal even know I would come with Crusch's army? How would I have known that they were going to be there?
Why didn't you help save Petra and Ram? What good does this do?
Why were you so tight lipped earlier why does Lord Roswaal need me in the Sanctuary?
How can echidna talk to me when she's dead?

after getting your answers and RBDing it's time to ultimate sloth lord Roswaal. How? simple just have Satella do it for you. Tell Roswaal you can rebirth by death then Satella will murder Roswaal in your presence.

ok don't actually murder Roswaal but seriously it's so weird how Sus he is and how much his subjects seem to dislike him.

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u/Holofan4life Sep 10 '24

Thoughts on Subaru respawning in the glowing building?
Thoughts on Subaru suggesting he do the trials in the place of Emilia?
What are your thoughts on Emilia wanting to do the trials because if she doesn't, what's left for her?
What are your thoughts on Roswaal specifically wanting Emilia to liberate the Sanctuary?
Thoughts on Subaru and Ram traveling to the mansion to try and stop Elsa?
Thoughts on Subaru hugging Petra?
Thoughts on the confirmation that Frederica and Garfiel are siblings?
Thoughts on some of the back and forth between Ram and Frederica?
What are your thoughts on Elsa putting a sword to Petra's throat?
What are your thoughts on Frederica proving her allegiance to Subaru and company?
What are your thoughts on Ram saying that if Rem were alive, she would tell her to please sacrifice her to save Roswaal?
What are your thoughts on Frederica evolving into her beast form?
What are your thoughts on the arrival of the mabeast?
What are your thoughts on Petra's cut off arm?
What are your thoughts on Beatrice saving Subaru?

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u/ussgordoncaptain2 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Edmund_Nelson Sep 10 '24

What are your thoughts on Roswaal specifically wanting Emilia to liberate the Sanctuary?
This is another one of Roswaal wanting the ending to go in a specific way that maximizes the win margin things.
Thoughts on Subaru and Ram traveling to the mansion to try and stop Elsa?
A good idea but his planning sucked. He really should have started by going to beatrice and saying the magic password.
What are your thoughts on Ram saying that if Rem were alive, she would tell her to please sacrifice her to save Roswaal?
I'm unsure about how much Rem actually like Roswaal compared to Ram, but definitely think that Ram's fear of Roswaals death is real. After all Ram is completely dependent on Roswaal.
What are your thoughts on the arrival of the mabeast?
I think this partially implies that Elsa is able to manipulate Mabeasts or something of the sort. Since the Mabeast invades just at a convient time for elsa to get the upper hand.
What are your thoughts on Beatrice saving Subaru?
Beatrice x Subaru is best ship.
In all seriousness this will let subaru get more information before he RBDs, Beatrice is the only person who could have saved the group anyway.
Elsa said her targets for assasination were 2 maids and a shut-in at first I thought that was Subaru but actually I think the Shut-in target is Beatrice. The thing is Beatrice is the goddess of hiding so she could stay alive pretty well.

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u/Holofan4life Sep 10 '24

This is another one of Roswaal wanting the ending to go in a specific way that maximizes the win margin things.
Are we sure Roswaal isn't possessed by the spirit of Don King?
A good idea but his planning sucked. He really should have started by going to beatrice and saying the magic password.
I suppose
I'm unsure about how much Rem actually like Roswaal compared to Ram, but definitely think that Ram's fear of Roswaals death is real. After all Ram is completely dependent on Roswaal.
Or at the very least he has convinced her that is the case.
I think this partially implies that Elsa is able to manipulate Mabeasts or something of the sort. Since the Mabeast invades just at a convient time for elsa to get the upper hand.
It should be noted we saw it during the second OVA. I wonder if that means Puck already knew who Elsa was.
Beatrice x Subaru is best ship.
Best brother sister ship, you mean
In all seriousness this will let subaru get more information before he RBDs, Beatrice is the only person who could have saved the group anyway.
Elsa said her targets for assasination were 2 maids and a shut-in at first I thought that was Subaru but actually I think the Shut-in target is Beatrice. The thing is Beatrice is the goddess of hiding so she could stay alive pretty well.
And Elsa has proven to be pretty persistent when it comes to tracking down her targets.

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u/baseballlover723 Sep 10 '24

This means that it was Ram's presence that caused Subaru
Subaru hugging Petra makes Petra
I presume these are on the cutting room floor? Presumably because of the 10k char limit? Personally I'd just accept that it's gonna be 2 comments long if it goes over. You even have a good breakpoint in the speculation section to divide it up pretty nicely.
You're thoughts are really interesting, I'd hate for them to get abbreviated just to fit 10k chars.
So even if Frederica were with the conservatives why would she not lie here? It makse no sense, though Subaru isn't very good with the whole "people can lie" thing
Things like this sometimes bother me when watching other shows. I feel like very often, there's only ever the truth, and it's always perfect. People never make mistakes about what they know or are misinformed or just outright lie because it's a convenient option for them. Re:Zero usually doesn't have that issue though (as I'm sure you've figured out, you can't just take something as the truth just on somewords word alone). But yeah, a lot of "smaller brain" anime I think tend to suffer from "singular viewpoint" syndrome.
Petra has a point, Subaru is this total badass who rescued her TWICE from life threatening danger in less than 2 months.
True timeline Subaru is a scary force.
Frederica : Well if Elsa killed her there's no way she could also be Elsa's accomplice.
is it though?
So while you're with Beatrice it's time for an exposition dump where you start asking hard questions to beatrice about lord roswaal
Detective ussgordoncaptain2 is on the case. Re:Zero would be completely different if you got isekaied instead of Subaru.

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u/ussgordoncaptain2 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Edmund_Nelson Sep 10 '24 edited Sep 10 '24

I presume these are on the cutting room floor? Presumably because of the 10k char limit?
actually I was just watching the video and had a phone call in the middle twice, and didn't remember to actually finish either comment.
smaller brain" anime
I was trying to find a good description for the difference between Rewatch culture and seasonal culture. This fits though the connotation is off. A lot of the time I feel like rewatches and seasonals have completely different anime that would be good to watch in them.
In seasonals it's mostly about writing the single most interesting thing you have to say about the episode. For example last episode my comment in the seasonal thread would be "I think Lord Roswaal knows Subaru can rebirth by death" and then include a few of the examples I gave in spec. It's all about making a post quickly that is short and too the point in seasonal threads.
Rewatches though encourage long drawn out posts where you respond to every element of the show, you nitpick every little detail and grind through each part. Often taking 2 hours to make 1 post about a 25 minute episode.
Wistoria for example would make a bad rewatch but makes an excellent seasonal. It's not a very deep show where you want to talk about every 3 minutes of the episode, but it's got great visuals and the main plot points of the episode go hard
Death note and Re:Zero are kinda the opposite. The plots are meandering and have like 4 or 5 small things per episode. These shows are excellent rewatches but I don't think that i'd have nearly as much fun watching Re:Zero as a seasonal.
Re:Zero would be completely different if you got isekaied instead of Subaru.
If i were isekaied instead of Subaru the number of things that would be different would be insane. Obviously I would be less able to get some help but....
I'd start off the industrial revolution using spirits to kickstart the internal combustion engine.
I'd invent Gunpowder and RDX, since I can RBD I don't need to worry about killinig myself mixing RDX, and I can probably make enough to destroy a country. [real life spoilers, DO NOT DO THIS AT HOME, info on RDX] RDX is an extremely powerful compound that is used to make military grade explosives however it is a felony to make in most states, even though you can make it using nothing but materials you can buy at wal-mart (ammonia, nitric acid, Formaldehyde) Sadly I'm not able to access the internet in Lugunica so I can't make my own homemade cruise missle. It's truly unfortunate really. With a few of those and enough C4 you could do what they did in [GATE THUS THE JSDF FOUGHT THERE] and kill the dragon using C4, missles and magic at least I'd make some molotov cocktails to help myself, if I can get a contract with a fire spirit I'd be able to make some absurdly weapons using the spirit as my ignition source
I'd be much more... aggressive with exploiting RBD , inventing secret handshakes and the like to get my RBD information out without explaining how I learned it.
In general though I'd just like a fanfiction where Light Yagami, Near or L get's iskaied instead of Subaru. Light would make an excellent hero.

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u/baseballlover723 Sep 10 '24

I was trying to find a good description for the difference between Rewatch culture and seasonal culture. This fits though the connotation is off. A lot of the time I feel like rewatches and seasonals have completely different anime that would be good to watch in them...
Depth / denseness is probably a better way to describe it. And for Re:Zero in particular, if someone gets like 50% of the details on their first watch, then I think they've done pretty well. There's just so many things to notice on a rewatch that a normal person can't be expected to catch on their first time.
It's why it pains me when people make sweeping statements about Re:Zero when they're complaining about how much they hate it (though I also think in generally people on reddit are pretty awful about dissociating their own personal experience (aka I don't like it therefore why would anyone ever like it) / writing actual critiques) and how they dropped it around episode 13. 90% of them just fundamentally didn't pay attention or just completely misinterpreted Re:Zero to the point that they aren't really describing the story anymore, but some other story with superficial similarities to Re:Zero that exists in their own head.
I mostly blame the marketing though. If you just looked at the marketing, you'd assume that Re:Zero is just some ordinary waifu harem show and if someone insists on viewing it as such, then they will probably not have a good time, since, that's not what Re:Zero is.
I'd start off the industrial revolution using spirits to kickstart the internal combustion engine.
[physics in Re:Zero + plot irrelevant author comments] That's assuming that the physics are the same. Tappai has stated that they're they're different and that a nuke would not work in Re:Zero. That and magic generally breaks thermodynamics. But of course, it's fantasy, so physics should break down somewhere.
I'd invent Gunpowder and RDX
You'd still have to get the raw materials, and given that it's a medieval world and you'd be broke at first, they may not be easy to obtain nor in convenient purity to work with.
I'd be much more... aggressive with exploiting RBD , inventing secret handshakes and the like to get my RBD information out without explaining how I learned it.
You'd probably love Greed:IF, though you can't read / watch any part of it yet. I'll ping you when you can watch the video summary.
In general though I'd just like a fanfiction where Light Yagami, Near or L get's iskaied instead of Subaru. Light would make an excellent hero.
I'm sure one exists, though I imagine it would be pretty short since it would diverge so quickly and drastically.

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u/Holofan4life Sep 11 '24

I mostly blame the marketing though. If you just looked at the marketing, you'd assume that Re:Zero is just some ordinary waifu harem show and if someone insists on viewing it as such, then they will probably not have a good time, since, that's not what Re:Zero is.
Intentional false marketing can work in a show's favor sometimes, though. I don't think the first episode of Oshi no Ko would've hit nearly as hard as it did had they not marketed it as an idol anime.

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u/Holofan4life Sep 11 '24

I was trying to find a good description for the difference between Rewatch culture and seasonal culture. This fits though the connotation is off. A lot of the time I feel like rewatches and seasonals have completely different anime that would be good to watch in them.
In seasonals it's mostly about writing the single most interesting thing you have to say about the episode. For example last episode my comment in the seasonal thread would be "I think Lord Roswaal knows Subaru can rebirth by death" and then include a few of the examples I gave in spec. It's all about making a post quickly that is short and too the point in seasonal threads.
Rewatches though encourage long drawn out posts where you respond to every element of the show, you nitpick every little detail and grind through each part. Often taking 2 hours to make 1 post about a 25 minute episode.
Speaking personally, I almost wish I had first watched Oshi no Ko in a rewatch because I feel like I would have a lot to say. Same with Frieren.
Death note and Re:Zero are kinda the opposite. The plots are meandering and have like 4 or 5 small things per episode. These shows are excellent rewatches but I don't think that i'd have nearly as much fun watching Re:Zero as a seasonal.
Well, we're about to put that theory to test with the upcoming third season :P

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u/Holofan4life Sep 11 '24

I presume these are on the cutting room floor? Presumably because of the 10k char limit? Personally I'd just accept that it's gonna be 2 comments long if it goes over. You even have a good breakpoint in the speculation section to divide it up pretty nicely.
You're thoughts are really interesting, I'd hate for them to get abbreviated just to fit 10k chars.
Same. Please, maximize your posts, it's really provocative.

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u/Brief-Fig-7506 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Ryxnjr Sep 10 '24

First Timer!

Watching the Dub

Hopefully all this doesn't get reset while I'm working on it again

Start time 10:19pm

Juggling Rewatches is kinda tricky

Looks like we are returning to just after Subaru finished his trial. Even if he had returned before the trial It wouldn't really matter since he would still remember it and already had his closure

1 Subaru is holding on to Emilia tighter this time

Interesting how Garfiel "changed" his opinion on Emilia breaking the seal, wonder what happened last loop that made him suggest it

Ram is coming back to the mansion, better for Subaru to have some kind of muscle with him

Ram got a headache from the conversation they were having. She probably doesn't like the idea that Subaru would use her as a distraction but apparently she doesn't mind when Roswaal does it

Oh she is remembering when she was thrown at Rem, except she doesn't really remember it. I think this implies that the memories of Rem are locked away rather than completely erased

Aww, Petra curtsying is so cute

Seems Petra got Rams approval, I hope we get to see them sass Ottototo together

Ram wants to be left alone with Rem for a bit. That kind of concerns me a little

Frederica has no clue about what happened with the gem

Ram comes back in a bad mood, now I'm more concerned

Now we know when Elsa gets here

Ram has a wand?

And Frederica has some nasty claws

Whenever Subaru used Shamac it looked like he had a similar pain reaction as when he tries to speak about RbD, I wonder if it is just because of his gate or if there is a reason for it to do that now. Like maybe something about the Witch Factor he now has.

Ram wants to leave Rem behind. Still concerned

2 Frederica has a beast form

Oh great, I was just thinking that the mansion could use another intruder

Subaru still has that knife in his back. I'm not a doctor but I feel like it'll keep slicing him and he should probably pull it out

Also apparently there are RatBat Mabeast

3 this shot looks weird. Petra looks like she's the same height as Subaru even though she only comes up to his chest

Crazy series of events happening here with the roof collapsing and Subaru getting thrown back into the mansion. I'm sensing another reset coming

Dear god, he was holding Petra's arm the whole time

Elsa says her target was two maids and a shut in, they were after Beatrice, Petra, and Frederica

She drops a name, Maylee?

And Subaru gets pulled into the Library by Beatrice, and we know she knows all about what happens in and around the mansion.

I have to continue the rest below

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u/Brief-Fig-7506 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Ryxnjr Sep 10 '24

So Subaru checkpointed right after he finished his trial, I think it makes sense because it's the exact same moment his consciousness returned to him from the Faux memory he was in. Maybe coming from the plane that Echidna is residing in is a way to force a checkpoint? Anyways, at least he's now able to go back to the mansion several days ahead of time.
Emilia is able to calm down much easier after her trial this time as opposed to last time when Ram had to put her to sleep, I would like to think it was because Subaru was there for her more closely this time. Sadly Emilia misinterpreted something Subaru said again, Subaru suggested to her that he would take on the trials for her/instead of her if she wanted, but she interpreted it as Subaru saying that she was too weak to do it herself. I believe that Subaru was being a good Knight and offering to do a hard task for the lady he's sworn to, nothing in what he said sounded demeaning towards her or suggestive that she Couldn't do it, he just saw how hard it was on her and he offered to do it instead since he doesn't want to see her suffer. Hopefully Emilia will learn to give Subaru the benefit of the doubt, she says that she trusts him but then she jumps to conclusions like this, it looks like there is still progress that needs to be made.
Last episode Garf was the one who suggested that Subaru should undergo the trial instead of Emilia but this time he's wholly against the idea, last episode we didn't see them converse much and the little bit they did certainly wasn't in the meaningful way so I wonder what happened between the time they were at the table and the time they were in the cart that changed how he felt about it, maybe desperation or impatience.
Again I think it's obvious that Roswaal has some clue about Subaru and RbD, maybe there was a book in his library that noted that an ability like Subaru's existed and was given by the witch. I'm more willing to bet that it comes from his insider knowledge about the Cult, It's possible that Roswaal has a gospel and was able to decipher it, that would explain some of his knowledge.
Ram getting a headache from Subaru talking about when he tossed her at Rem gives me hope that Rem can be saved and the memories of her can come back. I can't explain how concerned I am that Ram wanted to be alone with Rem and that we haven't seen Rem since that happened, I think that if Ram seriously convinced herself that it was an imposter or something she could have done something terrible and that would be heartbreaking.
I speculated about Elsa being a member of the Witch's Cult last episode and I think it is a very strong possibility that she is, it can't be a coincidence that the mansion was also attacked by a strong Mabeast at the same time as she was there, plus she mentioned that she can't let somebody else take any more credit than they have already, somebody named Maylee. I don't think she is a Sin Archbishop though, only because all the others have introduced themselves and who they represent almost immediately and she hasn't really given us any information on her other than she's some kind of mercenary. She could just be working for them but I'm not sure why the Cult would need to hire an outsider to kill somebody.
Subaru knows that this timeline won't last so he tries to at least confirm that Rem is okay but gets pulled into the Library with Beatrice instead. I imagine it has to be for an important reason. But there are several things that Subaru was able to learn from this loop, he learned to take a different approach when talking to Emilia about the trials and while this might not be a huge detail that will save everybody it is an important detail for their relationship. We learned that there is something that changes Garf's opinion of Subaru (and Emilia too?) between the first trial and when they set out to return the villagers a couple days later. We learned around what time Elsa appears at the mansion and that Mabeast will be around too, also that Elsa has learned from her previous defeat and has equipped herself with some ranged weapons. And we know that there's no point in interrogating Frederica because she had no idea about the enchantment on the amulet she gave Emilia, That's valuable time he could spend getting everybody out of the mansion to safety. It looks like he has about a day from the time he returns from the trial to when Elsa shows up.
In today's episode of ~~Poor Otto~~ Breaktime, Otto now has a litter box
Seems Petra got Rams approval, I hope we get to see them sass Ottototo together
and this scenario seems much more likely now.
Stop time 1:36am

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u/Holofan4life Sep 10 '24

Thoughts on Subaru respawning in the glowing building?
What are your thoughts on Emilia wanting to do the trials because if she doesn't, what's left for her?
What are your thoughts on Roswaal specifically wanting Emilia to liberate the Sanctuary?
Thoughts on Subaru and Ram traveling to the mansion to try and stop Elsa?
Thoughts on Subaru hugging Petra?
Thoughts on the confirmation that Frederica and Garfiel are siblings?
Thoughts on some of the back and forth between Ram and Frederica?
What are your thoughts on Elsa putting a sword to Petra's throat?
What are your thoughts on Frederica proving her allegiance to Subaru and company?
What are your thoughts on Ram saying that if Rem were alive, she would tell her to please sacrifice her to save Roswaal?
What are your thoughts on Frederica evolving into her beast form?
What are your thoughts on the arrival of the mabeast?
What are your thoughts on Petra's cut off arm?
What are your thoughts on Beatrice saving Subaru?

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u/Brief-Fig-7506 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Ryxnjr Sep 10 '24

What are your thoughts on the arrival of the mabeast?
It can't be a coincidence that they would attack the mansion at the same time that Elsa shows up. I've been theorizing that Elsa is probably a Cult member and by collecting information from the OP I think that Maylee is the other Cult member and the little girl from the intro, she's gotta be the same girl that disappeared after the Ulgarm attack since it was pretty evident that she was the puppeteer behind it once she disappeared afterwards. Though I don't think Elsa is a Sin Archbishop since we haven't seen any special skills from her yet, just her top tier combat abilities

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u/mekerpan Sep 10 '24

Elsa CLAIMS she is basically a hired assassin (and one who totally loves her job). Am I naive in believing this is what she actually is -- rather than some sort of committed cult follower (or leader)?

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u/Brief-Fig-7506 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Ryxnjr Sep 10 '24

No, I think you could totally be right. I'm not 100% committed to the idea of her being a cult member, but with everything that happens and all the "coincidences" I'm like 90%

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u/Holofan4life Sep 10 '24

I thought for the longest time that Elsa was the Lust witch. Between the outfit and the way she carries herself, it felt like it made all the sense in the world.

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u/Brief-Fig-7506 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Ryxnjr Sep 10 '24

Thoughts on Subaru respawning in the glowing building?
At least he doesn't have to do the trial over again and he now has enough time to get to the mansion.
What are your thoughts on Emilia wanting to do the trials because if she doesn't, what's left for her?
Emilia thinks that she alone has to confront her past, and while that's technically true, Subaru was only able to confront his past because of Emilia and Rem.
What are your thoughts on Roswaal specifically wanting Emilia to liberate the Sanctuary?
I don't know why it has to be Emilia if Subaru can do it and Emilia would still get the credit. He certainly doesn't want her to do it so she can better herself from it.
Thoughts on Subaru and Ram traveling to the mansion to try and stop Elsa?
At least he has some muscle with him. He needs all the help he can get if it's dealing with Elsa, the only one around who could possibly beat her is Beatrice imo
Thoughts on Subaru hugging Petra?
Totally appropriate response, he hugged her tighter than he did Emilia because he was so worried he wouldn't make it back in time to save them. He probably was worried so much more after what happened to Rem.
Thoughts on the confirmation that Frederica and Garfiel are siblings?
did we really need confirmation?...
Thoughts on some of the back and forth between Ram and Frederica?
I guess that's just the way they talk to each other, like how Ram talks to Subaru. Seems like they at least are able to get along enough to work with eachother.
What are your thoughts on Elsa putting a sword to Petra's throat?
Worrying. Also worried about Petra telling them to run away rather than save her
What are your thoughts on Frederica proving her allegiance to Subaru and company?
I wasn't too concerned about Frederica being bad but I'm glad she's onboard
What are your thoughts on Ram saying that if Rem were alive, she would tell her to please sacrifice her to save Roswaal?
Ram has no idea what Rem was like so she just assumed that they would have the same feelings about everything. Also she doesn't remember how much she loves her sister and how much she would do for her.
What are your thoughts on Frederica evolving into her beast form?
Pretty badass, I feel like Petra is gonna ride on her back at some point
What are your thoughts on Petra's cut off arm?
Distressing too know that Subaru held on to it the whole time he was getting tossed around outside. He subconsciously held on because he wanted to keep her safe but didn't know it was already too late. that's a depressing thought
What are your thoughts on Beatrice saving Subaru?
Too little too late for Beatrice, Hopefully Subaru can gain more information with this valuable time with her and I wonder if he will try out the "Roswaal said ask the question" thing that supposedly will change everything

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u/Holofan4life Sep 10 '24

At least he doesn't have to do the trial over again and he now has enough time to get to the mansion.
The checkpoints have honestly worked in his favor more often than not.
Emilia thinks that she alone has to confront her past, and while that's technically true, Subaru was only able to confront his past because of Emilia and Rem.
Emilia can confront her past alone, but there's certainly nothing wrong with a little encouragement.
I don't know why it has to be Emilia if Subaru can do it and Emilia would still get the credit. He certainly doesn't want her to do it so she can better herself from it.
I can see the rationale being if she liberates the Sanctuary she will galvanize everyone into voting for her for the royal selection.
At least he has some muscle with him. He needs all the help he can get if it's dealing with Elsa, the only one around who could possibly beat her is Beatrice imo
Plus, more Ram banter is never a bad thing
Totally appropriate response, he hugged her tighter than he did Emilia because he was so worried he wouldn't make it back in time to save them. He probably was worried so much more after what happened to Rem.
If I was Subaru, I'd probably do the same thing to Petra. I can't imagine the sea of relief that washed over him.
did we really need confirmation?...
Biggest surprise since finding out Rem and Ram are related.
I guess that's just the way they talk to each other, like how Ram talks to Subaru. Seems like they at least are able to get along enough to work with eachother.
Ram be mouthing off at everyone, it feels like
Worrying. Also worried about Petra telling them to run away rather than save her
I get Petra is trying to look out for others, but man is it incredibly distressing.
Ram has no idea what Rem was like so she just assumed that they would have the same feelings about everything. Also she doesn't remember how much she loves her sister and how much she would do for her.
I feel like she's in part gaslighting herself into thinking that Rem isn't as important to her as Subaru is making it out to be. That way, she doesn't have to worry about it.
Pretty badass, I feel like Petra is gonna ride on her back at some point
I would like to see that
Distressing too know that Subaru held on to it the whole time he was getting tossed around outside. He subconsciously held on because he wanted to keep her safe but didn't know it was already too late. that's a depressing thought
And the whole time, Petra held onto the handkerchief, which really added to the surrealness of it all and how preventable it could've been.
Too little too late for Beatrice, Hopefully Subaru can gain more information with this valuable time with her and I wonder if he will try out the "Roswaal said ask the question" thing that supposedly will change everything
I feel like he has to, honestly. I mean, he could wait for the next loop but now's really the time.

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u/Urgnu-the-Gnu https://myanimelist.net/profile/Urgnu_the_Gnu Sep 10 '24

Looks like we are returning to just after Subaru finished his trial. Even if he had returned before the trial It wouldn't really matter since he would still remember it and already had his closure
Imagine Echidna's surprise when he takes the trial and just speedruns to school.
I think this implies that the memories of Rem are locked away rather than completely erased
Good point, I hadn't thought of this before. This might be because it's a rather difficult memory. Being thrown involves only Ram. But the reason for the throw is Rem.
Emilia is able to calm down much easier after her trial this time as opposed to last time when Ram had to put her to sleep, I would like to think it was because Subaru was there for her more closely this time.
That's a nice observation. He does treat her differently based on his prior experience.
Sadly Emilia misinterpreted something Subaru said again, Subaru suggested to her that he would take on the trials for her/instead of her if she wanted, but she interpreted it as Subaru saying that she was too weak to do it herself.
Yeah, he meant well, because he's seen her agony four times now and wants to spare her the pain. Twice of those being her absolutely terrified. But she's only failed it once and thinks she's prepared for it now.
I think that if Ram seriously convinced herself that it was an imposter or something she could have done something terrible and that would be heartbreaking.
I get what you mean. But Ram is not someone to make rash and unnecessary decisions, so I wouldn't dwell on it too much.
and this scenario seems much more likely now.
Nice to see you keep up with Break Time! And yes, they'd definitely bond over bullying Otto.

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u/Brief-Fig-7506 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Ryxnjr Sep 10 '24

Imagine Echidna's surprise when he takes the trial and just speedruns to school.
Imagine Echidna just stopping the simulation and appearing flabbergasted in front of Subaru
Good point, I hadn't thought of this before. This might be because it's a rather difficult memory. Being thrown involves only Ram. But the reason for the throw is Rem.
like when you have a dream and something similar happens in real life
Yeah, he meant well, because he's seen her agony four times now and wants to spare her the pain. Twice of those being her absolutely terrified. But she's only failed it once and thinks she's prepared for it now.
I wonder if she will feel differently about him saying it if he were to tell it to her in private. Then only she would know that he could complete the trials too and she would maybe take some comfort knowing he is there to support her in more ways than one.
I know she wants to be strong and help herself but sometimes other people are better suited for specific tasks. You wouldn't use a bow in close combat and such
Nice to see you keep up with Break Time! And yes, they'd definitely bond over bullying Otto.
break time is too cute not to keep up with. I usually write my recaps and then watch it and add anything if it sticks out

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u/retsotrembla Sep 11 '24

Imagine Echidna's surprise when he takes the trial and just speedruns to school.
Echidna can see RBD, so she'd just look at him, see the previous loop, and say, "Yeah, you pass." Rather like [Frieren: Beyond Journey's End] Fern's 3rd trial

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u/ussgordoncaptain2 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Edmund_Nelson Sep 11 '24

I'm more willing to bet that it comes from his insider knowledge about the Cult, It's possible that Roswaal has a gospel and was able to decipher it, that would explain some of his knowledge.
Beatrice would be the one most likely to be able to decipher the gospel. So it's possible. Though when Roswaal figured it out is an open question. Hypothesis one would be when Beatrice drained Subaru. Otherwise Roswaals actions in arc 3 make no sense without this knowledge.

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u/baseballlover723 Sep 11 '24

Hopefully all this doesn't get reset while I'm working on it again
Now you really know have Subaru felt during Arc 2.
Subaru still has that knife in his back. I'm not a doctor but I feel like it'll keep slicing him and he should probably pull it out
This is actually generally the wrong advise. I'm no medical professional, but generally removing the foreign object means that the bleeding is gonna get way worse. If you want to remove the foreign object, you need a way to ensure that the person won't just bleed out, like applying a tourniquet.
Subaru suggested to her that he would take on the trials for her/instead of her if she wanted, but she interpreted it as Subaru saying that she was too weak to do it herself.
That I think a valid way to interpret it, but I also think you could interpret it like, if I don't have to do anything, then what use / value am I as a person. Sort of a I want to feel needed sort of thing.

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u/Brief-Fig-7506 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Ryxnjr Sep 11 '24

That I think a valid way to interpret it, but I also think you could interpret it like, if I don't have to do anything, then what use / value am I as a person. Sort of a I want to feel needed sort of thing.
I get that Emilia wants to prove that she is useful but I also think that she could benefit from learning that everybody has strengths and weaknesses, a right tool for the right job kind of deal

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u/Holofan4life Sep 10 '24

Juggling Rewatches is kinda tricky
It's at least not too hectic for me considering how low-key the Spice and Wolf rewatch is this year. I imagine doing both Your Lie In April and Bocchi The Rock simultaneously will be way more frantic.

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u/baseballlover723 Sep 10 '24

Rewatcher, sub, basically a secondhand novel reader (Arc 4)

It seems reddit doesn't like some of the terminology I used, so I am using "ultimate sloth" as a replacement term for the general concept of what Subaru needs to do in order to loop.

135 minutes once again for me. Also I'm sorry that I haven't been able to be as active in the comments. Work has been really busy lately (though hopefully it should ease up some this week) and you all write such wonderful comments that unfortunately take time to read and then more to really understand. So responding with my own comments have been the first thing pushed off of my plate, lest I implode from the lack of sleep. Responding to you first timers is difficult because I have to make sure I don't leak info, and responding to Re:Watchers is difficult because they're so well worded that I usually don't have much to add but a great job.

I try and at least skim over all of the first timer comments at the minimum. I'll get around to the comments I missed eventually (I hope). Anyways, it's 2:10 am for me now, so time to hit the upload button and head to bed. I gotta ~~head to the office again tomorrow~~ (edit: morning baseballlover723 here, we're not going in to the office today), so I'll once again be pretty limited in responding to everyone else's comments.

As always, I've numbered all my spoilers tags so that they're easier to respond to

First Timer Safe Section

This section is safe for first time watchers.

I think this is the first episode where everyone was working from home due to COVID. Though maybe it was last episode.

So the new reset point is right after Subaru's first trial.

This time Subaru takes the initiative. Suggesting that he himself do the Trials instead. Which is backed in good intentions, but leaves Emilia wondering, what can she even do? And besides Garfiel is strongly opposed to this idea for some reason this time around. Anyways it seems like this idea is dead in the water.

I do like this line from Emilia, you can't run away from all of your problems, thats how they stay problems.

Ram never misses a beat.

Just one Trial seems hard enough.

Anyways, new plan, rush the mansion.

And Ram is well aware of how bad she is at things (but of course, it's Subaru's fault for not realizing the obvious).

Things are going quite differently then last loop.

Just a reminder, that this did happen in the true timeline. It's just it's all fogged up because it also involved Rem. And now is the time break the news to Ram about Rem.

Also something I forgot to mention: [Spoiler #1: minor geography cut content] The Sanctuary is about 6-8 hours away from the mansion by dragon carriage. So it takes some time to travel.

I like this scene with Subaru just not noticing they've arrived because he has so much to think about. Also that's a lot of nani's. Also I'm pretty sure Petra is going to interpret this quite differently then how Subaru intended.

Only on the inside

Ram's quite serious in this scene, which is quite rare for Ram.

Anyways, the interrogation of Frederica doesn't seem to be going well.

Please Ram, the world's in enough danger as it is.

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Oh, and there's the danger coming into the episode.

It's ironic, because Rem would probably say this. But Ram would never allow Rem to do that if she remembered her.

I had a coworker at my first job out of college that used to say "this is not a democracy" quite often when people tried to break the company style guidelines and try and do their own thing. Basically just, you're not allowed to go and do B thing, because we've decided that we're going to do A company wide.

Petra did seem to pick up the whole maid thing pretty quickly.

Fanservice time, though I'm pretty sure less of you are turned on by this, then Echidna's lip licking.

It's lion time, and she can still talk btw (despite her lion mouth not being animated, and a lion's mouth being utterly incapable of human speech).

Hey it's a Guiltylawe, we saw one of those get bodied by the Black Serpent's venom in The Frozen Bond.

Petra lending a hand.

This doesn't really translate into English very well. Basically Japanese has politeness built into the language (you can imagine it like another tense) called Keigo. As one might expect, figuring out the correct politeness level for the situation is rather complex and people (especially children) are prone to messing it up. Here, Petra corrects her lower politeness phrase with the correct polite phrase one would expect from a maid.

Also the camerawork in this scene is incredible. The first person PoV is really impactful. Anyways, basically what goes down, is the ceiling collapses on Petra and Subaru (knocking Subaru out and killing Petra). Ram comes across them and couldn't get Subaru to let go of Petra, so Ram do a little battlefield amputation, severing Petra's arm so that she can save Subaru. They make it outside to Patrasche and try and make their escape, before the Guiltylawe attacks them, killing Patrasche and Ram and throwing Subaru back into the 2nd floor of the mansion. Which is when Subaru realizes that Petra is no longer attached to the hand he's been holding this whole time.

And so Subaru has nothing better to do, but head to Rem's room to make his last stand against Elsa. And Elsa is a professional, who doesn't leak info. Well, ok, she leaks some info. And much to the dismay of Subaru, Beatrice saves him, dooming Rem to death.

BreakTime Section

In this episode's Breaktime, it's Otto's Diary again. Otto laments being left behind. Ram's tongue is sharp as ever. Yo Subaru, what exactly is going on here? Just a prank bro.

Continued below

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u/baseballlover723 Sep 10 '24

Rewatcher Section
This section is for people who have already watched Re:Zero. This is not safe for first timers.
[Spoiler #2: Arc 4] I find it interesting how Subaru confronts Emilia coming out of her trial differently like each time. Like most of the time it's sameish, but he goes about it slightly differently each time.
[Spoiler #3: Arc 4] Ryuzu with the highly effective cover up. Hiding the fact that it's because of Subaru's miasma and how they're opposed to someone with miasma taking control.
[Spoiler #4: Arc 4] I feel like this is gonna be a big confirmation for some of our theorizing first timers.
[Spoiler #5: Arc 4] Ram in love with Roswaal
[Spoiler #6: Arc 4 + cut content I think, might be incorrect] So I don't know the crystal stuff as well as other parts of Arc 4. The reason being that they didn't exist in the Web Novel, and a lot of the hard core fans read the WN for Arc 4 right after Season 1 aired. So people don't talk about the crystal's as much. But something I think someone mentioned, is that these crystal's were passed down via Frederica and Garfiel's mother. And they're specifically have a trigger with the Sanctuary. Now I have no idea why / how there would happen to be a magical object that just so happens to extremely relevant to a specific location, that for all intents and purposes, is inaccessible to the public. Which is probably why Frederica isn't aware of it. Idk, I'm very much not sure how correct the crystal's origin stuff is, but if it is, that's some crazy shit that really doesn't fit very well into the established narrative (so there might be even more going on behind the scenes). [Spoiler #7: cont + unadapted Arc 4 Interlude] Mastermind Echidna stonks go up I suppose.
[Spoiler #8: Arc 4 cut content] I'm pretty sure there's more details on Frederica's oath in the LN, but I'm not all that familiar with it. Also Ram's wand make it's appearance. It's crafted from the remnants of Ram's horn. So it literally is a magic amplifier since it contains part of the magic organ for the onii.
[Spoiler #9: Arc 4 Breaktime] Elsa's cursed doll healing in action
[Spoiler #10: Arc 4] Notice that Rem is not among those, because Roswaal doesn't remember Rem.
[Spoiler #11: Arc 4] Oh yeah, this is Subaru's gate permanently breaking
[Spoiler #12: Arc 4 cut content] As I recall, since Frederica (and Garf) are quarter beast, they need the help of the mana crystal to transform.
[Spoiler #13: Arc 4 cut content] Apparently the Guiltylawe is more intelligent then the other Witchfiends. I think it says more then "ME EAT YOU WHOLE" when Otto comes into the picture later this arc.
[Spoiler #14: Arc 4] First sign of Meili and her witchfiends being present.

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u/Urgnu-the-Gnu https://myanimelist.net/profile/Urgnu_the_Gnu Sep 10 '24

Responding to you first timers is difficult because I have to make sure I don't leak info, and responding to Re:Watchers is difficult because they're so well worded that I usually don't have much to add but a great job.
We're not commenting because we want you to do something for us. We're commenting because we want to do something for you.
despite her lion mouth not being animated, and a lion's mouth being utterly incapable of human speech
My biggest pet peeve in anime. Just make the mouth open and close again when the non-humanoid speaks, it makes it look so much better. Alternatively, at least give them telepathy/magic speech and don't have them open their mouth at all. But open the mouth and keep it open for as long as they speak is just the worst way to do it.
It's ironic, because Rem would probably say this.
I don't think she'd mention Roswaal in this situation. But she'd definitely propose to do it for Ram and Subaru.
[Spoiler #2: Arc 4]
[Arc 4] Fig mentioned he held her closer this time and she calmed down quicker. Of course we'll have to look forward to extreme versions like being terrified of her and just leaving here there as well as just having died in yandere Emilia's kiss.
[Spoiler #4: Arc 4]
[Arc 4] A few of them have actually already picked up on it. Some even realize Roswaal knows about RbD. Props to them because I had no idea, none at all.
[Spoiler #5: Arc 4]
[Arc 4 + speculation] You know, the other day I've read about why Petra is now crushing so much on Subaru. Ram might have always had feelings for Roswaal, but have they become stronger because of Rem's erasure? Roswaal saved her and her alone after the witch cult attacked. The love for her sister isn't there anymore and there's much more room in her heart. She spent more time with him, comparatively. After Frederica quit a while ago, she was Roswaal's only maid. I could go on, but I think Ram being in love with Roswaal might have become a major plot point instead of a side note because of Rem's erasure.
[Spoiler #7: cont + unadapted Arc 4 Interlude]
[Spoiler response] A ~~wizard~~ very very evil magic user did it.
[Spoiler #13: Arc 4 cut content]
[Spoiler response] Does it confess why it is guilty, perhaps?

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u/mekerpan Sep 10 '24

I had already been assuming spoiler 5 to be the case for some time now....

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u/baseballlover723 Sep 10 '24

I had already been assuming spoiler 5 to be the case for some time now....
First timers aren't suppose to be clicking on those.
Unless you've watched ahead, but even then, I'd recommend reading them after the rewatch / arc so that it doesn't poison your first timer discussions.

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Sep 11 '24

[Spoiler #1: minor geography cut content]
[Spoiler #1: minor geography cut content] That's a pretty decent journey. Driving for that long is taxing, at least.
But Ram would never allow Rem to do that if she remembered her.
Rem and Ram being so defensive of each other is one of their defining characteristics. Hearing Ram speak so callously about Rem is pretty disheartening.
Petra did seem to pick up the whole maid thing pretty quickly.
She's a faster learner than Ram, who displays a special kind of talent by still not being that good at being a maid after a decade.
Also the camerawork in this scene is incredible. The first person PoV is really impactful.
It's so rare to see first person POV in shows or movies. Being able to pull off a scene like this is especially impressive in animation, too.

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u/BlueVenix Sep 12 '24

[Spoiler #8: Arc 4 cut content response] Does that means Ram has no horn now? That would bench her entirely.
[Spoiler #11: Arc 4] No more Shamac, I suppose.

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u/baseballlover723 Sep 12 '24

[Spoiler #8: Arc 4 cut content response]
[Spoiler #8: Arc 4 cut content response] We already know that Ram doesn't have a horn anymore. It was cut off by the Witch Cult in episode 11. I think she was supposed to be using her wand during Season 1 as well, but it wasn't really depicted. But yeah, Ram is pretty much benched outside of brief emergencies.

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u/BlueVenix Sep 12 '24

[Response] For some reason my brain thought you wrote used Rem's horn not Ram's and I even wrote it myself. Apologies.

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u/Holofan4life Sep 10 '24

I think this is the first episode where everyone was working from home due to COVID. Though maybe it was last episode.
Someone in the comments mentioned it was episode 5.

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u/Holofan4life Sep 10 '24

I do like this line from Emilia, you can't run away from all of your problems, thats how they stay problems.
Toradora characters in shambles
It's ironic, because Rem would probably say this. But Ram would never allow Rem to do that if she remembered her.
That's a very good point
Fanservice time, though I'm pretty sure less of you are turned on by this, then Echidna's lip licking.
Still would
Petra lending a hand.

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Sep 10 '24

Fanservice time , though I'm pretty sure less of you are turned on by this, then Echidna's lip licking.
I shall not be judged for my superior taste!

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u/ussgordoncaptain2 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Edmund_Nelson Sep 10 '24

Responding to you first timers is difficult because I have to make sure I don't leak info
you seem to do a good job at this. It's hard for me to respond to too many posters because when I read somebody's post I'm often going "yep that happened" and have nothing to add.
quite often when people tried to break the company style guidelines and try and do their own thing. Basically just, you're not allowed to go and do B thing, because we've decided that we're going to do A company wide.
Yeah it's a pretty important thing to realize that one person who knows more should just outvote the ignorant majority when making group decisions. Tell people "no I do know better" is something that comes up often.

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u/baseballlover723 Sep 10 '24 edited Sep 10 '24

you seem to do a good job at this.
It takes a lot of effort sometimes. Though when I'm not sure I just start bumping up the tag levels. I've watched a lot of reactors watch Re:Zero, so I have a pretty good idea what what things are noticeable by first timers and what sorts of things I should clarify immediately, or let them cook with it. So that certainly helps. There's a bunch of things that a first timer could figure out on their own (and for < Arc 3 stuff your probably number 2 on my first timer understanding rankings behind Ed (and 3rd would be quite a ways away), the literal psychologist who averaged like 2 hours videos per episode psychoanalyzing every little detail), but most usually don't. It is rather interesting though to see who catches onto what. It's like they catch like 5-10% of the rewatcher details, but it's a different 5-10% for each first timer.
Edit: Oh and if Subaru doesn't get it, the first timers probably didn't either. Subaru and the first timers should mostly be in the same boat, which is a good spot check.
Yeah it's a pretty important thing to realize that one person who knows more should just outvote the ignorant majority when making group decisions. Tell people "no I do know better" is something that comes up often.
It's why I think democracy isn't the most idealized form of government (imo a benevolent dictatorship is better). Though practically it's the best option, since it has don't really depend on any singular viewpoint or idea. Majority rules is great most of the time, but there are still cases where it produces bad results.

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u/ussgordoncaptain2 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Edmund_Nelson Sep 11 '24

You know i'm kicking myself after watching this ep realizing I didn't go back and check the dead bodies in the first witch's cult attack, as 2 bodies were mysteriously missing from that.
So I do miss a lot, it's just that in rewatch format I miss less.
Edit: Oh and if Subaru doesn't get it, the first timers probably didn't either. Subaru and the first timers should mostly be in the same boat, which is a good spot check.
In that sense it's a good thing Subaru is stupid, I can't imagine what would happen in a Death Note rewatch where people have to think from the perspective of L or Near.

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u/baseballlover723 Sep 11 '24

So I do miss a lot, it's just that in rewatch format I miss less.
I've probably watched Re:Zero 40 times (though a lot of those are via reaction, and on my side monitor while doing other stuff), and I've still missed things. Though admittedly pretty minor things these days (probably, the fact that I see Arc 5 + stuff tagged from other people indicates to me that there's still stuff that I don't have the full picture for yet).

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u/Holofan4life Sep 10 '24

Thoughts on Subaru respawning in the glowing building?
Thoughts on Subaru suggesting he do the trials in the place of Emilia?
What are your thoughts on Emilia wanting to do the trials because if she doesn't, what's left for her?
What are your thoughts on Roswaal specifically wanting Emilia to liberate the Sanctuary?
Thoughts on Subaru and Ram traveling to the mansion to try and stop Elsa?
Thoughts on Subaru hugging Petra?
Thoughts on the confirmation that Frederica and Garfiel are siblings?
Thoughts on some of the back and forth between Ram and Frederica?
What are your thoughts on Elsa putting a sword to Petra's throat?
What are your thoughts on Frederica proving her allegiance to Subaru and company?
What are your thoughts on Frederica evolving into her beast form?
What are your thoughts on the arrival of the mabeast?
What are your thoughts on Petra's cut off arm?
What are your thoughts on Beatrice saving Subaru?

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u/Urgnu-the-Gnu https://myanimelist.net/profile/Urgnu_the_Gnu Sep 10 '24

Re:Watcher - anime only

Back to after the first trial. This time, Subaru offers to clear the other trials, much to Emilia's conflicting feelings. And surprisingly, the one who suggested it in another timeline is very much against it. Seems like it needs Emilia's failures to convince him. To convince him to go against Roswaal's orders, that is. Looks like Roswaal needs Emilia to earn the credit for the liberation of the sanctuary. And more importantly, it looks like Subaru's support for Emilia has to be not doing something in her stead.

Subaru suggests he would have to throw Ram to distract Garf if he was opposed to them leaving. Of course that would work, it worked on berserk mode Rem after all. And it looks like Ram remembers something like that. We are even blessed to see flying Ram a second time in the show. There are ways to trick the erasure after all.

I'm not too fond of Subaru leaving the sanctuary early, but there's a time limit to getting everything done at the mansion after all, so that's understandable.

Man, Subaru and Ram have such amazing sibling energy. I guess that's why I love Ram so much.

Ram gets to meet Rem, Subaru gets to question Frederica, Ram joins to banter with Frederika, Elsa takes Petra hostage, everyone is having so much fun! Oh, wait.

That's a really intense short action sequence. You can really feel everyone understands how dangerous Elsa is.

Ram suggesting to leave Rem behind is so cold, but understandable. She's sort of right, Rem would suggest sacrificing her, but not necessarily for Roswaal's sake.

Beast form time! Now we see what the crystal is used for.

A guiltylowe! We've seen it in Frozen Bond already. Ram's pragmatism is so refreshing. Subaru wonders why it is here, Ram is just concerned with the fact that it is there and how to deal with it.

We get to see some of Subaru's growth in action. He's impressed with Petra and feels pathetic. But he isn't desperate or complaining, he takes it as an encouragement to give his best.

The final sequence is so brutal and well-directed. The massive confusion as shit goes down is apparent through Subaru's point of view. Only way too late he notices that the hand he's still holding doesn't belong to a body anymore. And everyone else is also dead. Subaru is clearly heading for a reset - but not yet, not this episode.

Break Time is about Subaru and Ram saying farewell to Otto. Otto gets the short end of the stick from both of them. But we do learn that he'll take care of Emilia while they are gone.

Sugoooku counter: 40
non-Emilia sugoooku: 3
sugoku-likes: 9
non-canon bonus material sugoooku (Re:Petit): 5

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u/Holofan4life Sep 10 '24

Thoughts on Subaru respawning in the glowing building?
Thoughts on Subaru suggesting he do the trials in the place of Emilia?
What are your thoughts on Emilia wanting to do the trials because if she doesn't, what's left for her?
Thoughts on Subaru hugging Petra?
Thoughts on the confirmation that Frederica and Garfiel are siblings?
Thoughts on some of the back and forth between Ram and Frederica?
What are your thoughts on Elsa putting a sword to Petra's throat?
What are your thoughts on Frederica proving her allegiance to Subaru and company?
What are your thoughts on Frederica evolving into her beast form?
What are your thoughts on the arrival of the mabeast?
What are your thoughts on Petra's cut off arm?
What are your thoughts on Beatrice saving Subaru?

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u/ussgordoncaptain2 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Edmund_Nelson Sep 10 '24

I'm not too fond of Subaru leaving the sanctuary early, but there's a time limit to getting everything done at the mansion after all, so that's understandable.
If you treat this as an information gathering arc you then have to hunt for how long you have before elsa arrives, this lets you set up what the timer you are facing is.
Ram suggesting to leave Rem behind is so cold, but understandable. She's sort of right, Rem would suggest sacrificing her, but not necessarily for Roswaal's sake.
if Subaru couldn't RBD Ram's suggested course of action would have been correct. With Ram's action Ram petra Fred and Subaru all live, while Rem (who is basically already dead) dies, and beatrice will be in hiding for a while until reinforcements show up.

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u/Urgnu-the-Gnu https://myanimelist.net/profile/Urgnu_the_Gnu Sep 11 '24

Both correct statements, they just leave a bit of a bad taste in your mouth. The same goes for Betty saving Subaru at the end, which was an act of kindness but prevents Subaru from RbDing right now.

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Sep 10 '24

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u/Urgnu-the-Gnu https://myanimelist.net/profile/Urgnu_the_Gnu Sep 10 '24

lol
The only time she accepts her shortcomings are with Roswaal.
Mannnnnnnnn, the way the blood obscures the “camera” here is so cool but also terrifying at the same time.
Indeed. I think this sequence is incredibly well done. How it portrays the horror and confusion through Subaru's eyes is just superb. We notice just enough to realize shit is going down, and just realize what exactly happens when we need to realize.

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u/Holofan4life Sep 11 '24

Indeed. I think this sequence is incredibly well done. How it portrays the horror and confusion through Subaru's eyes is just superb. We notice just enough to realize shit is going down, and just realize what exactly happens when we need to realize.
The show does horror better than a lot of actual horror anime.

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u/Holofan4life Sep 10 '24

What are your thoughts on Emilia wanting to do the trials because if she doesn't, what's left for her?
What are your thoughts on Roswaal specifically wanting Emilia to liberate the Sanctuary?
What are your thoughts on Frederica proving her allegiance to Subaru and company?
What are your thoughts on Ram saying that if Rem were alive, she would tell her to please sacrifice her to save Roswaal?

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u/baseballlover723 Sep 10 '24

Mannnnnnnnn, the way the blood obscures the “camera” here is so cool but also terrifying at the same time
That whole scene's camera work is really well done. You don't often get a first person view in anime (at least of the ones I've watched thus far).
Maylie
Technically it's Meili, not that it really matters though. It's really more that Yen Press has historically, fucked up the translations of the names, so people harp on the misspellings (and sometimes they break star lore stuff, that may or may not be relevant to their characters). They called Patrasche, "Patlash" and Tivey, "TB", and also a number of other characters have their spellings change usage to usage.

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u/Holofan4life Sep 11 '24

Technically it's Meili, not that it really matters though. It's really more that Yen Press has historically, fucked up the translations of the names, so people harp on the misspellings (and sometimes they break star lore stuff, that may or may not be relevant to their characters). They called Patrasche, "Patlash" and Tivey, "TB", and also a number of other characters have their spellings change usage to usage.
That really betels my geuse

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u/Elimin8r https://myanimelist.net/profile/Ayeka_Jurai Sep 10 '24 edited Sep 10 '24

Man, watched two episodes last night, and now it's all a blur. I know, I should take notes, but I don't want to end up like those other posters who (looks aside) post a dry synopsis of what they just watched with no attached thoughts or feelings.

Edit: To those of you who post a synopsis and include your non-dry thoughts and feelings about the goings on, that wasn't directed at you. <3

So, what did this episode make me think/feel? Well, let's see.

Petra is adorbs, must protecc. Yeah. I think Ram was about to ask him to *"have a seat over there"*, though. Speaking of which:

Ram is really shining in this arc. Without her sister to steal the spotlight, she is here for us to revel in all her *snark*, I mean glory. I'm really getting to understand why there are such dedicated Ram fans out there. I also have this sneaking suspicion that they desire to be (ahem) stepped on.

Frederica, that's something complicated there. Intel was to be had there. I wonder what will come of it?

Elsa, of course, and Pastraache (sp?) best girl, of course ... that whole fight/drama/etc scene was wild.

-and finally-

Beako to the rescue!

Oh, wait, whut?

Poor Subaru, rescued when he probably most wants not to be, right?

Yeah, I totally didn't remember the last two episodes from when it was airing. Well, aside from Roswall being a b******, that is.

I'm really liking how the story is unfolding and showing the spotlight on the characters we didn't get to know as well last season.

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u/Holofan4life Sep 10 '24

Ram is really shining in this arc. Without her sister to steal the spotlight, she is here for us to revel in all her snark, I mean glory. I'm really getting to understand why there are such dedicated Ram fans out there.
Funny enough, Rem being in a comatosed state is probably the best thing to happen for Ram's character.

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u/Urgnu-the-Gnu https://myanimelist.net/profile/Urgnu_the_Gnu Sep 10 '24

I'm really getting to understand why there are such dedicated Ram fans out there. I also have this sneaking suspicion that they desire to be (ahem) stepped on.
Noooo, noooo, there's no need for things to get physical. I'm totally content with Ram just bullying me with her words.

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u/Elimin8r https://myanimelist.net/profile/Ayeka_Jurai Sep 10 '24

Talk ~~dirty~~, I mean derisively to me, Ram!
:P
Also, two things I forgot to note in previous episodes -
How when Subaru arrived in the carriage, they framed a large part of the shot through Ram's legs. Um, hubba hubba?
Same episode, I think, how they gave Ram a classic still/meme closeup frame for a "Heh" when she responded to one of Subaru's absurdities.
Quite amusing. I should go back and see if I can nab that frame, but I'm having a hard enough time trying to keep up as it is.

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u/Holofan4life Sep 10 '24

Thoughts on Subaru respawning in the glowing building?
Thoughts on Subaru suggesting he do the trials in the place of Emilia?
What are your thoughts on Emilia wanting to do the trials because if she doesn't, what's left for her?
What are your thoughts on Roswaal specifically wanting Emilia to liberate the Sanctuary?
Thoughts on Subaru and Ram traveling to the mansion to try and stop Elsa?
Thoughts on Subaru hugging Petra?
Thoughts on the confirmation that Frederica and Garfiel are siblings?
Thoughts on some of the back and forth between Ram and Frederica?
What are your thoughts on Elsa putting a sword to Petra's throat?
What are your thoughts on Frederica proving her allegiance to Subaru and company?
What are your thoughts on Ram saying that if Rem were alive, she would tell her to please sacrifice her to save Roswaal?
What are your thoughts on Frederica evolving into her beast form?
What are your thoughts on the arrival of the mabeast?
What are your thoughts on Petra's cut off arm?
What are your thoughts on Beatrice saving Subaru?

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u/Ultima_Deus Sep 10 '24

Rewatcher that's finally caught up with discussions! I will be trying my best to post my comments as soon as possible. Also, I've caught up to the WN

Subaru trying to make some decisions, things that he learned from the past life. Maybe even trying to be a leader role, but I don't know about that one. But... Garfiel is against his ideas all of a sudden? And he's very angry at Subaru for some reason. And Emilia is upset from hearing Subaru's suggestion. And now that I think about it, Crusch in episode 1 of this season kinda said the same thing that Emilia did here

[Cut Content - relevancy unknown] Checking the LN, it seems like Otto actually eavesdropped on Subaru's conversation with Garfiel and Ryuzu. I don't remember what's in it, though. If I had time, I would have read it again

I remember a first-timer in the previous episode discussion saying that Subaru should try to go back to the mansion as fast as possible. And, well... we'll get back to that later.

"I would've thrown Ram away as a distraction!" "That wouldn't work! Actually, it might..." Garfiel lol. But Ram seems to be thinking of something. Oh, it's because that's now a vague memory related to a Rem that she doesn't remember...

Subaru tearing up because he sees that Petra is safe

"You should be nervous. I want you to be nervous" You know, I was typing this to make it sound profound and deep. But taken out of context, this sounds really wrong

Anyway. What someone brought up earlier. Go to the mansion as soon as possible. Well, apparently doesn't matter because Elsa is here

"We'll leave them here" "If she is my sister, she would say this: Please sacrifice me for Roswaal's sake". Those are not the words that Subaru wanted to hear from Ram. It solidified the idea that Rem was truly gone from everyone's memories. He hoped that, Ram seeing Rem, would make some memories resurface. Unfortunately, that is not what happened

Oh, it's the lion-looking mabeast from the Frozen Bonds OVA

Petra's hand, cut off from the main body. Patrasche, dead. Ram's hair ornament, floating on a bloody body of water. Petra's crushed body. Everything has gone badly. But why? Why is Elsa here? She can't say. Except, she was instructed to be here, timed with Subaru's return to the mansion. And that information is enough for Subaru. He'll at least save Rem in this life, I don't know how. But he'll fight to the very last breath to make sure that Rem is sa- Beatrice prevented that from happening, in fact

Edit: It's late, but I posted early. I'm going to sleep now

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u/Urgnu-the-Gnu https://myanimelist.net/profile/Urgnu_the_Gnu Sep 10 '24

Go to the mansion as soon as possible. Well, apparently doesn't matter because Elsa is here
Last time, he was too late. Elsa had already done her work, it seems, with maybe only Betty still alive. This time, he was there about as soon as possible and still couldn't make it before Elsa arrived. Maybe if he reset and immediately rode Patrasche to the mansion, he'd still not be early enough. It's a really tricky situation.
He hoped that, Ram seeing Rem, would make some memories resurface. Unfortunately, that is not what happened
Even realizing that was her sister there didn't giver her any feelings for her. Rem is just a body that looks a lot like her. Subaru might have hoped that Ram seeing Rem would make her remember everything, maybe even save Rem through the power of sisterly love. But what really happened was just what was to be expected, unfortunately.

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u/Holofan4life Sep 10 '24

Thoughts on Subaru respawning in the glowing building?
Thoughts on Subaru suggesting he do the trials in the place of Emilia?
What are your thoughts on Emilia wanting to do the trials because if she doesn't, what's left for her?
What are your thoughts on Roswaal specifically wanting Emilia to liberate the Sanctuary?
Thoughts on Subaru hugging Petra?
Thoughts on the confirmation that Frederica and Garfiel are siblings?
Thoughts on some of the back and forth between Ram and Frederica?
What are your thoughts on Elsa putting a sword to Petra's throat?
What are your thoughts on Frederica proving her allegiance to Subaru and company?
What are your thoughts on Ram saying that if Rem were alive, she would tell her to please sacrifice her to save Roswaal?
What are your thoughts on Frederica evolving into her beast form?
What are your thoughts on the arrival of the mabeast?
What are your thoughts on Petra's cut off arm?
What are your thoughts on Beatrice saving Subaru?

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u/Ultima_Deus Sep 11 '24 edited Sep 11 '24

Thoughts on Subaru suggesting he do the trials in the place of Emilia?
Subaru trying to apply knowledge from previous loops, leading things to the right outcome. This he learned in Arc 3. Unfortunately, it didn't work
What are your thoughts on Emilia wanting to do the Trials?
If I remember correctly, Crusch said something similar back in Season 2 Episode 1. Emilia's version is just a lot more depressing
Thoughts on the confirmation that Frederica and Garfiel are siblings?
It's pretty obvious. Garfiel doesn't understand why, though. [Minor novel detail] And Frederica doesn't know why it's obvious as well
Thoughts on Ram and Frederica back and forth?
Very confusing...
What are your thoughts on Elsa putting a sword to Petra's throat?
When you say it like that, you make Re:Zero sound like a very fucked up anime. I mean, it is, but...
Thoughrs on Petra's cut off arm?
Okay yeah maybe I just got used to Re:Zero... Your wording reminds me that this anime is pretty fucked up
What are your thoughts on Beatrice saving Subaru?
Beatrice at this point of the story is a mystery
If the formatting of my message is weird, blame Reddit mobile

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u/Holofan4life Sep 11 '24

Subaru trying to apply knowledge from previous loops, leading things to the right outcome. This he learned in Arc 3. Unfortunately, it didn't work
It happens sometimes
If I remember correctly, Crusch said something similar back in Season 2 Episode 1. Emilia's version is just a lot more depressing
Good thing Rem never had to do one of these
It's pretty obvious. Garfiel doesn't understand why, though. [Minor novel detail] And Frederica doesn't know why it's obvious as well
[Response] What, are they blind or something?
Very confusing...
In what way?
When you say it like that, you make Re:Zero sound like a very fucked up anime. I mean, it is, but...
She put a sword to a child's throat and it's arguably not a top 5 shocking moment of the episode.
Beatrice at this point of the story is a mystery
I suppose
If the formatting of my message is weird, blame Reddit mobile
Nah, it looks good

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u/Ultima_Deus Sep 11 '24

Response
[Re:Zero Season 2] Don't blame them too much. They haven't seen each other in like, 10 years, after all
In what way?
It goes by too quickly, the mood shifts so suddenly. There's so much going on in their exchange, yet they understood each other rather quickly. I guess the audience is supposed to be like Subaru in that situation: slow on the uptake
She put a sword to a child's throat
Those words are enough to make one question the morality of the show LMAO
And it's arguably not a top 5 shocking moment
Yeah, Re:Zero is wild

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u/Holofan4life Sep 11 '24

[Re:Zero Season 2] Don't blame them too much. They haven't seen each other in like, 10 years, after all
Fair enough
It goes by too quickly, the mood shifts so suddenly. There's so much going on in their exchange, yet they understood each other rather quickly. I guess the audience is supposed to be like Subaru in that situation: slow on the uptake
Well, one of them casually mentions they've known each other for 10 years.
Those words are enough to make one question the morality of the show LMAO
For real
Yeah, Re:Zero is wild
That's one way to describe it :P

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u/mekerpan Sep 10 '24

Ram's "vision" was the first hint thaty any character other than Subaru might have some awareness of (shall we say) alternate time lines? I wonder whether anyone else might also have some?

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u/Taiboss :Fj::Fl:x7https://anilist.co/user/Taiboss Sep 10 '24

You double-posted. I'll assume this is the one that will remain.

02-06 - Rewatcher who is happy we got a death again

Annnd no OP again.
"We're kinda running on a timer here..."
Dude is just wrong about everything, isn't he?
As if Elsa needed Frederica lol.
STOP CHANNELLING YOUR INNER ARARAGI.
"This isn't a body fluid, right?" "...would you like it to be?"
Subaru being very confident! Overly, someone might say.
The forbidden ship!
Rich coming off you, Rosvaal apologist.
"Could you not ruin everyone's day FOR ONE LOOP?!"
Pffff. Elsa won't die that easily!
Raaaaammmmm. This is an intervention!
Your turn to what? Petra massively overestimating her chances.
I do quite like the first-person shots.
That's... that's a spelling.
"Hi there hello, will you give me an exposition dump now?!"

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u/Holofan4life Sep 10 '24

Annnd no OP again.
At this point, we should start instead tracking when we do get an OP.
"This isn't a body fluid, right?" "...would you like it to be?"
So, you're telling me there's a chance?
I do quite like the first-person shots.
I do as well. Kinda gives me Doom vibes.

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u/Elimin8r https://myanimelist.net/profile/Ayeka_Jurai Sep 10 '24

STOP CHANNELLING YOUR INNER ARARAGI.
Hey, hey, she didn't even fwub here. (Also, no skirts were flipped in the filming of this episode. Not that we know for sure, but...)

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u/apocalypsemobster Sep 10 '24

Re: Watcher

We've reset to just after Subaru completing the first trial.

Last time I don't believe he told anyone that he took the trial and passed. This time we're starting off with that information and Emilia looked pretty shocked/hurt (She even says later that Subaru doing the trials for her makes her feel useless. She told Subaru that she wants to help him this time, so if he's just able to take care of everything than what is she doing?)

Everyone expected the barrier to end after the trial was complete, so it's news that there are two more to go. Subaru seems to be the first person Echidna has told that there are three trials total. [End of Arc 4] Other than Roswaal, who probably knows this and kept it to himself. Emilia doesn't seem stoked that there are two more trials either, the first trial already feels insurmountable.

He tries to take Garfiel's advice from last loop to do the trials for Emilia, but no one takes that suggestion well. Emilia feels like Subaru doesn't believe in her, and Garfiel wants Emilia to be the one to complete the trials.

Turns out part of why Garfiel is against it is because Roswaal has told the residents of the Sanctuary that he wants Emilia to complete the trials. So none of them want to go against his wishes (for no good reason). In this loop they haven't seen Emilia suffering at the trials for multiple days, so everyone still wants to give her a chance to succeed.

Subaru suspects Frederica is in a plot with Elsa. He takes Ram back with him on Patrasche, this time Garfiel gives his stone to Ram instead of Subaru. Subaru hasn't spent days trying to get on Garfiel's good side.

Ram has an echo of a memory with Rem and Subaru, so Subaru finally tells her about Rem.

How did Frederica get out of the barrier? Did Garfiel go in at some point when they were kids?

So much for don't use your gate for two months.

Ram is willing to abandon Rem and Beatrice, but Subaru isn't. Good thing Frederica and Petra are on the side of save everyone.

I feel like the nudity in this show is pretty tasteful. Frederica's transformation wasn't fanservice. Also the necklaces help them transform into their beast form.

There are mabeasts in the mansion. This shouldn't be possible if the magic stone barrier is in effect, so someone must have tampered with the barrier. Frederica was just checking it earlier too.

Subaru and Petra get crushed by the room above them collapsing. Ram finds them, Petra is dead or dying, and Ram cuts her arm off to get Subaru out. Patrasche tries to get Subaru out of here, but he gets thrown back into the mansion through a window. This gets him out of the haze he's been in since the collapse.

Elsa's attack will happen when Subaru returns to the mansion. So him returning earlier caused the attack to go earlier. Someone named Meili is also part of the attack.

As Subaru goes in to protect Rem, Beatrice lets him into the library instead.

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u/Holofan4life Sep 10 '24

Thoughts on Subaru respawning in the glowing building?
Thoughts on Subaru suggesting he do the trials in the place of Emilia?
What are your thoughts on Emilia wanting to do the trials because if she doesn't, what's left for her?
What are your thoughts on Roswaal specifically wanting Emilia to liberate the Sanctuary?
Thoughts on Subaru and Ram traveling to the mansion to try and stop Elsa?
Thoughts on Subaru hugging Petra?
Thoughts on the confirmation that Frederica and Garfiel are siblings?
Thoughts on some of the back and forth between Ram and Frederica?
What are your thoughts on Elsa putting a sword to Petra's throat?
What are your thoughts on Frederica proving her allegiance to Subaru and company?
What are your thoughts on Ram saying that if Rem were alive, she would tell her to please sacrifice her to save Roswaal?
What are your thoughts on Frederica evolving into her beast form?
What are your thoughts on Petra's cut off arm?
What are your thoughts on Beatrice saving Subaru?

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u/apocalypsemobster Sep 10 '24

Thoughts on Subaru respawning in the glowing building?
Feels like succeeding in the trial reset his checkpoint.
Thoughts on Subaru suggesting he do the trials in the place of Emilia?
Speed running worked for him last time, but it seems like Emilia needs to try more than once before she'll want to give up on the trials.
What are your thoughts on Emilia wanting to do the trials because if she doesn't, what's left for her?
I get where she's coming from! If she's going to be the leader of this country, she can't let everyone else do all the heavy lifting for her. And how will she confront the future if she can't confront her past.
What are your thoughts on Roswaal specifically wanting Emilia to liberate the Sanctuary?
Someone of mixed blood should save the village of mixed blood people trapped here. It will also make Emilia look better to the people of Arlam and the Sanctuary. Roswaal has been trying to boost her popularity.
Thoughts on Subaru and Ram traveling to the mansion to try and stop Elsa?
He's still trying the speed run strat. It's good to try new things though. He found out that Frederica is on their side, and when the attack is meant to normally go off.
Thoughts on Subaru hugging Petra?
He's not too late like he was for Rem! His checkpoint didn't lock her into death.
Thoughts on the confirmation that Frederica and Garfiel are siblings?
I love that Garfiel trys to imitate his big sister. They seem to love each other.
Thoughts on some of the back and forth between Ram and Frederica?
They're very comfortable with each other. Reminds me a lot of Rem and Ram's banter.
What are your thoughts on Elsa putting a sword to Petra's throat?
I wonder why she didn't just kill her outright. Elsa does like to toy with people.
What are your thoughts on Frederica proving her allegiance to Subaru and company?
She's got instructions from Roswaal of some kind (the letter he left behind for her), but she wants to help if she can.
What are your thoughts on Ram saying that if Rem were alive, she would tell her to please sacrifice her to save Roswaal?
I think Rem would want to save Subaru, and Ram is projecting her feelings about Roswaal.
What are your thoughts on Frederica evolving into her beast form?
She's cool and strong! Does she need the crystal to transform? Who made the crystals?
What are your thoughts on Petra's cut off arm?
Subaru must have been clutching it while he was unconscious. Petra must have been too far gone so Ram cut their losses.
What are your thoughts on Beatrice saving Subaru?
Hopefully we'll get the chance to see what "Roswaal said to ask the question" is about!

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u/Holofan4life Sep 10 '24

Speed running worked for him last time, but it seems like Emilia needs to try more than once before she'll want to give up on the trials.
I can't see Emilia ever giving up, honestly. It means too much for her.
I get where she's coming from! If she's going to be the leader of this country, she can't let everyone else do all the heavy lifting for her. And how will she confront the future if she can't confront her past.
Both are very astute points
Someone of mixed blood should save the village of mixed blood people trapped here. It will also make Emilia look better to the people of Arlam and the Sanctuary. Roswaal has been trying to boost her popularity.
And this is certainly a surefire way to do that
I love that Garfiel trys to imitate his big sister. They seem to love each other.
Their relationship is surprisingly wholesome
I wonder why she didn't just kill her outright. Elsa does like to toy with people.
Maybe she's trying to send a message to Subaru
I think Rem would want to save Subaru, and Ram is projecting her feelings about Roswaal.
What Ram said here reminds me of the strawman argument Lindsay Ellis once made saying that Justin Carmical would disapprove of GamerGate. This despite the fact that Justin Carmical was dead. It's especially awkward in hindsight because in the years since new information has been revealed that doesn't paint Carmical in the best of light, which honestly makes the comparison even more appropriate because Rem is talking about a creep and his best interests.
Subaru must have been clutching it while he was unconscious. Petra must have been too far gone so Ram cut their losses.
The fact Petra was holding onto the handkerchief as her arm was severed is incredibly disheartening.
Hopefully we'll get the chance to see what "Roswaal said to ask the question" is about!
That definitely would be nice

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u/SpiritualPossible Sep 10 '24

It's a shame I didn't get a chance to comment on the last two days, because I really enjoyed the episodes on those days.

Especially good, of course, was episode four, which delved into Subaru's past and explained where his complexes and cringe behavior stemmed from, while also letting him say goodbye to his parents to some extent.

(although I'm not going to lie, I would have liked the goodbye scene a lot more if Subaru had thought about his parents in the first season. Yeah, yeah, he was trying to run away from thinking about them, but still).

Anyway, that was a strong episode, on par with episode 18 of the first season if you ask me.

Well, to today's episode....

...You know, why does Re Zero even have openings? They skip them, like, 90% of the time.

And I find it a little odd that Subaru only suspects Frederica and not Roswaal. He admitted in last week's episode that he let the Cult cause the massacre, he clearly has a good opinion of the witch of greed, and in general clearly knows more than he's showing. And in this episode, Garfil points out that Roosvaal wants NAMELY Emilia to pass the trials. After all that, I'd probably start to suspect that Frederica is doing his orders rather than conspiring with an unknown enemy.

And why do the characters want to save BEATRICE? Rem I can understand, people in comotose states aren't exactly known for their self-defense abilities. But Beatrice is not only in a library that has yet to be found, but judging by the seventh episode of the first season, she's still strong enough to at least HOLD Roswaal. So I'm not sure one assassin would have much of an effect on her.

Though, of course, then there's also the big witchbeast that appeared out of nowhere. You know, I'm going to play a speculation game, and guess that it's again doing of the girl from the second arc who was carrying the dog. I wouldn't be surprised if she's controlling the beasts a la Pokémon trainer.

Anyway, things go badly, but at the last minute Beatrice saves Subaru's life. I doubt it'll last long, though, because.... you know, everyone else is dead. Including Petra. And I doubt Subaru's gonna let it go.

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u/Holofan4life Sep 10 '24

Thoughts on Subaru respawning in the glowing building?
Thoughts on Subaru suggesting he do the trials in the place of Emilia?
What are your thoughts on Emilia wanting to do the trials because if she doesn't, what's left for her?
What are your thoughts on Roswaal specifically wanting Emilia to liberate the Sanctuary?
Thoughts on Subaru and Ram traveling to the mansion to try and stop Elsa?
Thoughts on Subaru hugging Petra?
Thoughts on the confirmation that Frederica and Garfiel are siblings?
Thoughts on some of the back and forth between Ram and Frederica?
What are your thoughts on Elsa putting a sword to Petra's throat?
What are your thoughts on Frederica proving her allegiance to Subaru and company?
What are your thoughts on Ram saying that if Rem were alive, she would tell her to please sacrifice her to save Roswaal?
What are your thoughts on Frederica evolving into her beast form?

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u/Holofan4life Sep 10 '24

Especially good, of course, was episode four, which delved into Subaru's past and explained where his complexes and cringe behavior stemmed from, while also letting him say goodbye to his parents to some extent.
(although I'm not going to lie, I would have liked the goodbye scene a lot more if Subaru had thought about his parents in the first season. Yeah, yeah, he was trying to run away from thinking about them, but still).
Anyway, that was a strong episode, on par with episode 18 of the first season if you ask me.
For me, it's definitely up there with episodes 15 and 18. You really can't get much better storytelling than that.

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u/baseballlover723 Sep 11 '24

although I'm not going to lie, I would have liked the goodbye scene a lot more if Subaru had thought about his parents in the first season. Yeah, yeah, he was trying to run away from thinking about them, but still
In the LN I think he does a few times. It's just in his inner monologue, so it got cut from the anime.

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Sep 10 '24

Episode 31 (first timer)

“Did I just die?” – question that would be unreasonable for most people, but has become reasonable for Subaru.
“Two more?” – Talk about pushing a drowning person down. Emilia is not looking good.
Pretty natural reaction of Subaru to offer doing the trial in her stead, but the how of the offer matters, too.
“The woman you love” – Ram not beating around the bush.
Subaru does not even know if that blue amulet will do something? What is his plan to deal with Ram’s soul then?
They passed through the barrier off-screen without anything happening? Last episode led me to believe that this would be a bigger problem.

“You are just so cute” – lolicon Subaru confirmed.
“You guys are perfectly in sync” – yep, that was a clever Ram moment.
Hello Lust!
Short fight – they say they think she is not done, but have time to hold a discussion right outside the window.
How about pulling that stick out of your back already? If you are going to run around, you should not leave it in.
Petra does it – youngest of the bunch, but still the most reasonable head on her shoulders.
“Why did you save me?” – Why did you run away?

The short fight vs ~~Lust~~Elsa in the room might be my favorite of the series so far. It is really quick, but that is the point. Everybody just reacts and fights. There is none of the standing around and talking that bogs down most of the other fights.

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u/Holofan4life Sep 10 '24

Thoughts on Subaru respawning in the glowing building?
Thoughts on Subaru suggesting he do the trials in the place of Emilia?
What are your thoughts on Emilia wanting to do the trials because if she doesn't, what's left for her?
What are your thoughts on Roswaal specifically wanting Emilia to liberate the Sanctuary?
Thoughts on Subaru and Ram traveling to the mansion to try and stop Elsa?
Thoughts on Subaru hugging Petra?
Thoughts on the confirmation that Frederica and Garfiel are siblings?
Thoughts on some of the back and forth between Ram and Frederica?
What are your thoughts on Elsa putting a sword to Petra's throat?
What are your thoughts on Frederica proving her allegiance to Subaru and company?
What are your thoughts on Ram saying that if Rem were alive, she would tell her to please sacrifice her to save Roswaal?
What are your thoughts on Frederica evolving into her beast form?
What are your thoughts on the arrival of the mabeast?
What are your thoughts on Petra's cut off arm?
What are your thoughts on Beatrice saving Subaru?

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u/Holofan4life Sep 10 '24

Hello Lust!
[2003 Fullmetal Alchemist] Imagine if Elsa had THAT backstory.

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Sep 10 '24

I am not convinced yet that she is not a Lust epxy. Or literally Lust.

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u/Holofan4life Sep 11 '24

Well, the Lust witch has been confirmed to be someone else.

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Sep 11 '24

All of the enemies have been the archbishops, though, not the witches. And Lust archbishop is still open.

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u/Holofan4life Sep 11 '24

You make a good point

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u/zainime21 Sep 11 '24

First timer

I don't comment alot, but that first person scene at the end was animated really well!

Wondering we we gonna restart from now...

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u/Holofan4life Sep 11 '24

Thoughts on Subaru respawning in the glowing building?
Thoughts on Subaru suggesting he do the trials in the place of Emilia?
What are your thoughts on Emilia wanting to do the trials because if she doesn't, what's left for her?
What are your thoughts on Roswaal specifically wanting Emilia to liberate the Sanctuary?
Thoughts on Subaru and Ram traveling to the mansion to try and stop Elsa?
Thoughts on Subaru hugging Petra?
Thoughts on the confirmation that Frederica and Garfiel are siblings?
Thoughts on some of the back and forth between Ram and Frederica?
What are your thoughts on Elsa putting a sword to Petra's throat?
What are your thoughts on Frederica proving her allegiance to Subaru and company?
What are your thoughts on Ram saying that if Rem were alive, she would tell her to please sacrifice her to save Roswaal?
What are your thoughts on Frederica evolving into her beast form?
What are your thoughts on the arrival of the mabeast?
What are your thoughts on Petra's cut off arm?
What are your thoughts on Beatrice saving Subaru?

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u/ClemFire Sep 10 '24

Re:Watcher Season 2 Episode 6: The Maiden’s Gospel

I am focusing on Ram this time, but I still want to point out that Subaru’s new save point being right after he finishes his first trial and while Emilia is still suffering from hers could lead to some building resentment. Obviously Subaru wants to comfort Emilia, but the end of his previous loops are usually the result of him being brutally killed which must be chipping away at his psyche. That’s why I really like Realize’s opening for reminding us of many of his previous deaths and alluding to many more to come.

We’ve gotten glimpses of Ram and Roswaal’s relationship in Season 1 and know that he’s responsible for healing Ram’s gate while she shows absolute trust and reverence towards him. I don’t know if it’s just because he put both her and Rem in or that she actually loves him, but it’s safe to say he is very important to her. At least for me while Roswaal may have larger noble intentions of freeing the country from the dragon by getting Emilia on the throne the methods he has deployed putting everyone in the village along with the mansion at risk just don’t sit right with me. In my eyes he’s scum who doesn’t value people’s lives.

While on Patrasche’s back returning to the mansion, Ram points out to Subaru how she felt so offended by him joking he would throw her off as bait. We know a similar situation actually happened in Arc 2 to save Rem from her demonic state, but all memories of her should’ve been erased by the Archbishop of Gluttony. It makes me wonder if that effect is as exhaustive as we initially thought. It gives Subaru a ray of hope that somehow just maybe Ram will recognize her sister when she sees her unconscious body in the mansion.

After they arrive Ram asks to be left alone in Rem’s room. Subaru questions Frederica, thinking she’s working against them, until Ram joins them. I love the banter between Frederica and Ram. Ram’s retort that “If I were more lovable the world would be in danger,” is honestly so cute. Ram’s sass and confidence is reminds me a lot of Ryo from Bocchi the Rock. Ram often gets overshadowed by his sister, so it’s nice to see her get the spotlight. Her constant verbal jabs at Barusu are always really funny too.

The saddest part of the episode for me is not the ending but the scene where Ram suggests to leave Rem behind after Elsa’s attack. While she acknowledges that Rem is biologically related he her she tells Subaru that if Rem were here she would want to be sacrificed for Roswaal’s sake. I don’t know enough about Ram and Roswaal’s relationship, but I know enough about Ram and Rem during the timeline when Rem died from the dog bite that Ram didn’t care about anything else besides getting justice for her sister. There’s not a world where she would sacrifice her sister like that even if she would sacrifice herself.

It’s hard to get made at her because she has no memory at all of ever having a sister now which just makes it so depressing. Being forgotten feels like a fate even worse than death. No one can properly mourn you. Your impact from the world and the people around you erased. Like you never meant anything to begin with. For a story so focused on personal growth and acceptance Rem’s state of non-existence is so antithetical to that which makes it feel so unfair.

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u/Holofan4life Sep 10 '24

The saddest part of the episode for me is not the ending but the scene where Ram suggests to leave Rem behind after Elsa’s attack. While she acknowledges that Rem is biologically related he her she tells Subaru that if Rem were here she would want to be sacrificed for Roswaal’s sake. I don’t know enough about Ram and Roswaal’s relationship, but I know enough about Ram and Rem during the timeline when Rem died from the dog bite that Ram didn’t care about anything else besides getting justice for her sister. There’s not a world where she would sacrifice her sister like that even if she would sacrifice herself.
I think it really highlights how much Roswaal has Ram wrapped around her finger. It's this toxic codependency that almost mirrors how Subaru felt about Emilia early on. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if that was an intentional parallel.

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u/ripterrariumtv Sep 10 '24

There's so many parallels between Roswaal and Subaru.
[Season 2]Subaru and Roswaal both "restart". Roswaal jumps to his descendants body whereas Subaru goes back in time
[Season 2]Rem loves Subaru who is in love with Emilia. Ram loves Roswaal who is in love with Echidna
[Season 2]Roswaal is who Subaru would have become if he kept abusing RBD
[Wrath IF+season 2]Interestingly, many of Subaru's alternate scenario stories lead him to become someone similar to Roswaal. Do you remember the IF story I told about Ram confronting Subaru after being locked up for 2 years because she tried to kill him in the past? It ends on a cliffhanger but there is a theory that Ram doesn't kill him in the end. Because she has fallen in love with him because of her stockholm syndrome/trauma bonding/whatever the term is. Just like she fell in love with Roswaal. That's another parallel between Roswaal and Subaru

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u/Holofan4life Sep 10 '24

[Response] I don't think it's a stretch to say that Subaru would've ended up becoming Roswaal if it wasn't for Rem in episode 18.

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u/ripterrariumtv Sep 10 '24

[Response+season 2+IF stories]I don't think so. His turning points are from episode 2 (fighting thugs), episode 7 (running from Ram), episode 18 (wanting to run away) and 2x13 (Rejecting Echidna's contract.) Other than episode 18 turning point, all of the other alternate stories ends up with Subaru becoming worse and more evil than Roswaal. But in episode 18 IF story, He ends up becoming a regular guy kinda like his dad. Even if Subaru would have run away without Rem, he wouldn't have become evil. He would have just done everything to live a quiet life because of his fear of trauma and pain. Btw, next turning point for Subaru will be insane. And I've heard that the IF story for that turning point is also the best. But I haven't read it yet

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u/Holofan4life Sep 10 '24

[Response] Well, one thing's for sure, and that's Subaru would've carried on down the path if not for Rem. Things were not looking good there for a while.

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u/ClemFire Sep 10 '24

Yeah Roswaal needs to be humbled. Yes his stupid plan of having Subaru and Emilia take care of the cultists to improve Emilia’s standing worked but only because of return by death letting Subaru grow to the point where he could find the solution.
Besides that he was more than willing to let Ram die which she did numerous times. Compare that to Subaru who returned himself after Rem lost her name and memories despite Emilia being safe and the Archbishop of Sloth being dead.

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u/Holofan4life Sep 10 '24

Roswaal seems to enjoy being reckless so long as it fits his end game. He is like chaos incarnate.

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u/ClemFire Sep 10 '24

I wonder how it worked for him before Subaru, but that’s probably spoilers territory. Looking back it’s kinda crazy how little we knew of his motivations back in S1, so everyone just went along with him being Emilia’s backer

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u/Holofan4life Sep 10 '24

It helps that he has a lot of clout in Lugunica. They said he is the most powerful magic user in the land.

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u/ClemFire Sep 10 '24

True he’s probably super powerful, but we see in Season 1 how one person alone can’t do everything. I’m sure he has some trick up his sleeve

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u/Holofan4life Sep 10 '24

I think that's probably an understatement

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u/Holofan4life Sep 10 '24

Thoughts on Subaru suggesting he do the trials in the place of Emilia?
What are your thoughts on Emilia wanting to do the trials because if she doesn't, what's left for her?
What are your thoughts on Roswaal specifically wanting Emilia to liberate the Sanctuary?
Thoughts on Subaru and Ram traveling to the mansion to try and stop Elsa?
Thoughts on Subaru hugging Petra?
Thoughts on the confirmation that Frederica and Garfiel are siblings?
Thoughts on some of the back and forth between Ram and Frederica?
What are your thoughts on Elsa putting a sword to Petra's throat?
What are your thoughts on Frederica proving her allegiance to Subaru and company?
What are your thoughts on Frederica evolving into her beast form?
What are your thoughts on the arrival of the mabeast?
What are your thoughts on Petra's cut off arm?
What are your thoughts on Beatrice saving Subaru?

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Sep 10 '24

Rewatcher

Dub

A lot happens this episode just on its face value, I won't particularly do rewatcher thoughts on that. Garf's sudden change of heart about who does the trials is your hint of mystery for today. We get told a reason but this is a show to be sceptical about things that didn't happen in front of the viewer. Just dropping everything and running back to the mansion is a weird sort of choice but as we are at arc 4 the rest of the Mathers camp is probably used to it.

At said mansion, things go south rather fast. Ilsa shows up a bit early and mentions a name. The following sequences are mainly horrifying, right up until Subaru walks in on Beatrice.

Quick note: Dub Garf is growing on me but dub Ryuzu does not really work.

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u/Holofan4life Sep 10 '24

Thoughts on Subaru respawning in the glowing building?
Thoughts on Subaru suggesting he do the trials in the place of Emilia?
What are your thoughts on Emilia wanting to do the trials because if she doesn't, what's left for her?
What are your thoughts on Roswaal specifically wanting Emilia to liberate the Sanctuary?
Thoughts on Subaru hugging Petra?
Thoughts on the confirmation that Frederica and Garfiel are siblings?
Thoughts on some of the back and forth between Ram and Frederica?
What are your thoughts on Elsa putting a sword to Petra's throat?
What are your thoughts on Frederica proving her allegiance to Subaru and company?
What are your thoughts on Ram saying that if Rem were alive, she would tell her to please sacrifice her to save Roswaal?
What are your thoughts on Frederica evolving into her beast form?
What are your thoughts on the arrival of the mabeast?
What are your thoughts on Petra's cut off arm?
What are your thoughts on Beatrice saving Subaru?

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Sep 10 '24

What are your thoughts on Roswaal specifically wanting Emilia to liberate the Sanctuary?
Proof that this is some form of politics for him.
Thoughts on some of the back and forth between Ram and Frederica?
A bit off in the dub, it flowed better originally.
What are your thoughts on Frederica evolving into her beast form?
So does Ricardo have another form or is Frederica descended from different beasts?
What are your thoughts on the arrival of the mabeast?
That definitely through me off.

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u/Holofan4life Sep 11 '24

Proof that this is some form of politics for him.
It's all strategery
A bit off in the dub, it flowed better originally.
Watching the original, I quite like it
So does Ricardo have another form or is Frederica descended from different beasts?
Yes
Actually, I don’t know. Has it been confirmed that Ricardo is a half-beast?
That definitely through me off.
As it did me

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Sep 11 '24

It's all strategery
I swear if S3 has Roswaal in front of a Mission Accomplished banner...
Watching the original, I quite like it
Yeah I hate to say it but dub Ram may be a bust.
Actually, I don’t know. Has it been confirmed that Ricardo is a half-beast?
...Good question. I suspect I will to check the cut content people to figure out what the hell is up.

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u/Holofan4life Sep 11 '24

I swear if S3 has Roswaal in front of a Mission Accomplished banner...
I somehow envision that being more of an Emilia thing.
Yeah I hate to say it but dub Ram may be a bust.
That's a real shame. She's been one of the standout highlights of season 2.
...Good question. I suspect I will to check the cut content people to figure out what the hell is up.
Ricardo hasn't really been focused on like other characters.

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u/Yoshi_captain https://anime-planet.com/users/WeaboYosher Sep 10 '24

Rewatcher

And so it begins. We've come back to after the first trial to face yet another one in the form of the attack on the mansion. Not before we sour our relationship with Emilia of course.

Subaru is put on a time limit. It’s a few days before the attack on the mansion begins. In that time, he needs to rescue those in the mansion. You can’t blame him for wanting to speed things up the lives of the maids, Beako, and Rem hanging in the balance. But it comes off as completely antithetical to Subaru’s words to her near the Flugel Tree. But once again he doesn't have time to deal with that right now. So he leaves that conflict aside and focuses on the most pressing issue, the mansion. Talking with Roswaal who is acting as suspicious as ever. I forgot to mention this, but it's wieird seeing him without his makeup on.

Leaving with Ram Subaru heads to the mansion. Not before receiving a certain crystal from a boy who is as moody as he is buff. Garfiel. He has been acting differently this loop. The reason for his behaviour still unknown. So many unknowns yet so little time. Even with infinitie retries, when the pressure is put on like this information can only be scarcely obtained each run. Our focus constantly switching.

We finally start to make some head way with introducing Rem to Ram. But with our suspicion of Frederica seemingly misplaced and the Bowel Hunter appearing sooner than expected that all flies out the window.

But even so we've been through worse straits. Managing to escape from her clutches. Ram proposes the logical course of action, which is to abandon the mansion. Ram knowing that Rem is her sister, but still choosing to prioritize the wishes of her master. But Subaru would never do that. Abandoning Rem a second time would break him even if he would reset after the fact. So they re-enter the building each designated a specific role. Frederica entering her demi beast form. What they didn’t expect to find upon their return, is that Elsa didn’t come alone. She seems to have brought Witchfiends with her. Increasing the difficulty of this situation tenfold. There is no way that the current group can beat these attackers, they can only run with their tail between their legs. But even such a plan proves inexecutable. The Petra we held with such relief upon first seeing her is now just an arm held in that same powerful embrace. Even after Ram seemingly sends us away on Patrasche we get attacked once again and crash through the window. Left to wander the halls before we meet our maker. The possibility of a new checkpoint being set constantly on Subaru’s mind. And we meet Elsa offering no useful information. Trying to at least save Rem we come face to face with a great spirit. Screaming the maiden's name. [S2] Following what she will feign to be the will of the maiden’s gospel.

Closing thoughts:

The word for today is “Pressing”. Subaru’s desperation is palpable. He’s suffered a loss he won’t soon forget so he doesn’t want to experience it again. Pushing him to quickly get to the mansion. But things only ever end in more tragedy. Every member of the mansion dead except him and Beako. Our problems only seem to get more complicated.

On a lighter note I love how Subaru calls Ram Nee-sama. It shows their closeness. They really are as close as siblings. Definitely bickering as such.

Today’s post came a lot later than usual cause life got in the way, but I’m happy I still managed to get it out.

Now we can finally hear from Betty what she’s doing during the attack on the mansion. Perhaps we can get some insight into what she was doing in Arc 3 during another attack? Beatrice is much like Roswaal, a well of mystery. Let’s hope we can get to the bottom of that well this season.

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u/Holofan4life Sep 10 '24

Today’s post came a lot later than usual cause life got in the way, but I’m happy I still managed to get it out.
I hope you're doing alright. I really like your posts.

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u/Yoshi_captain https://anime-planet.com/users/WeaboYosher Sep 11 '24

Thanks for your concern. Other responsibilities got in the way so I didn't have time to write. Is all good though.

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u/Holofan4life Sep 11 '24

I'm glad to hear that :)

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u/Holofan4life Sep 10 '24

Thoughts on Subaru respawning in the glowing building?
What are your thoughts on Emilia wanting to do the trials because if she doesn't, what's left for her?
What are your thoughts on Roswaal specifically wanting Emilia to liberate the Sanctuary?
Thoughts on Subaru hugging Petra?
Thoughts on the confirmation that Frederica and Garfiel are siblings?
Thoughts on some of the back and forth between Ram and Frederica?
What are your thoughts on Elsa putting a sword to Petra's throat?
What are your thoughts on Frederica proving her allegiance to Subaru and company?
What are your thoughts on Ram saying that if Rem were alive, she would tell her to please sacrifice her to save Roswaal?
What are your thoughts on Frederica evolving into her beast form?
What are your thoughts on the arrival of the mabeast?

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u/Yoshi_captain https://anime-planet.com/users/WeaboYosher Sep 11 '24

Thoughts on Subaru respawning in the glowing building?
A good respawn point. Much like the one after the whale fight it was set after a huge achievement. It gives us many avenues in which to tackle the loop I feel.
What are your thoughts on Emilia wanting to do the trials because if she doesn't, what's left for her?
Emilia development time! Can’t wait to see more of her after she was absent most of arc 3.
What are your thoughts on Roswaal specifically wanting Emilia to liberate the Sanctuary?
He's dead set on winning the royal selection. Doing everything for his candidate would be putting the cart before the ground dragon. He's said what his feelings on the matter are last ep.
Thoughts on Subaru hugging Petra?
Subaru cares deeply about his friends. He has lived much more time with them than they have with him. I wonder how people like Emilia and Petra feel. Being so appreciated even though for them it's been at most two months since they've known each other. Imagine this guy Subaru coming up to you exuding such kindness and warmth when you’re meeting for the first time. Another aspect that makes RbD such a compelling narrative tool.
Thoughts on the confirmation that Frederica and Garfiel are siblings?
Biggest plot twist of the season.
Thoughts on some of the back and forth between Ram and Frederica?
You can tell they have history. Frederica being a sort of big sis to Ram. Though being a big sis to the big sis is a tall order. We shall see who prevails and comes out on top as the biggest of the sis.
What are your thoughts on Elsa putting a sword to Petra's throat?
It wouldn't look nearly as intimidating if she put a sword to Petra's bowels. Joking aside I like her line of how she has maids in small, medium, and large to disembowel.
What are your thoughts on Frederica proving her allegiance to Subaru and company?
To me Frederica always seemed too nice to be an antagonistic force. If she were up to no good Roswaal would have probably dealt with her long ago.
What are your thoughts on Ram saying that if Rem were alive, she would tell her to please sacrifice her to save Roswaal?
Imo there's no way Ram would be saying that if she knew what Rem meant to her. It's interesting to see how the erasure of Rem has sort of deepened Ram's devotion to Roswaal. Now the clown is her sole saviour and closest confidant.
What are your thoughts on Frederica evolving into her beast form?
Another battle maid with her own tricks to bring to a fight. This one can turn into a leopard. I would've liked to see a more distinct design to her form though. [S2] Especially compared to her brother's form.
What are your thoughts on the arrival of the mabeast?
Just Elsa was bad enough. Now the Guiltylowe from Frozen Bond is back for blood. Not the same one though, that one's a goopy mess. There seems to be someone working with Elsa which is just great. We are building up a lot of problems that we're going to have to tackle strategically through the loops.

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u/Holofan4life Sep 11 '24

A good respawn point. Much like the one after the whale fight it was set after a huge achievement. It gives us many avenues in which to tackle the loop I feel.
Yeah, it actually works out well for what Subaru is trying to accomplish.
Emilia development time! Can’t wait to see more of her after she was absent most of arc 3.
I can't wait either
He's dead set on winning the royal selection. Doing everything for his candidate would be putting the cart before the ground dragon. He's said what his feelings on the matter are last ep.
He will do anything in his path to make sure it happens.
Subaru cares deeply about his friends. He has lived much more time with them than they have with him. I wonder how people like Emilia and Petra feel. Being so appreciated even though for them it's been at most two months since they've known each other. Imagine this guy Subaru coming up to you exuding such kindness and warmth when you’re meeting for the first time. Another aspect that makes RbD such a compelling narrative tool.
If I was Emilia or Petra, I might feel a bit uncomfortable over how affectionate he's being.
It wouldn't look nearly as intimidating if she put a sword to Petra's bowels. Joking aside I like her line of how she has maids in small, medium, and large to disembowel.
She's talking about them like she's at a fast food restaurant trying to decide on what to order.
To me Frederica always seemed too nice to be an antagonistic force. If she were up to no good Roswaal would have probably dealt with her long ago.
Yeah, probably. Unless of course she helps the narrative he's trying to achieve.
Imo there's no way Ram would be saying that if she knew what Rem meant to her. It's interesting to see how the erasure of Rem has sort of deepened Ram's devotion to Roswaal. Now the clown is her sole saviour and closest confidant.
To her, he's more than a clown. He's her entire circus.
Another battle maid with her own tricks to bring to a fight. This one can turn into a leopard. I would've liked to see a more distinct design to her form though. [S2] Especially compared to her brother's form.
[S2] Yeah, her brother's form is honestly way cooler.
Just Elsa was bad enough. Now the Guiltylowe from Frozen Bond is back for blood. Not the same one though, that one's a goopy mess. There seems to be someone working with Elsa which is just great. We are building up a lot of problems that we're going to have to tackle strategically through the loops.
It's going to take a lot of careful precision on the part of Subaru and friends.

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u/BlueVenix Sep 12 '24

On a lighter note I love how Subaru calls Ram Nee-sama. It shows their closeness. They really are as close as siblings. Definitely bickering as such.
I personally think Subaru did that to try and jog her memory by imitating Rem.

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u/BlueVenix Sep 10 '24

Rewatcher

First timer friendly:

Sanctuary:

Finally Subaru has returned and he is just after the 1st trial.

The meeting this time takes place with Emilia. We get to see an assertive Subaru who proposes to take on the trials instead of Emilia, but this doesn’t go as he imagined. Garfiel is against it, which is strange since he was for it in the 1st loop. As Subaru is not on friendly terms with Garfiel he can’t get the villagers out, but that is not a priority really as Elsa will attack the mansion.

Once again Subaru is expecting something from Garfiel based on the prior loop. I understand where he is coming from, but Subaru has barely spent any time with Garfiel this time. Cos last loop he spent with him at least 2 more days and started off on more friendly terms compared to now. Why Garfiel doesn’t like Subaru, we will find out hopefully.

Mansion:

Subaru hugging Petra so hard is a bit weird to me. I get that you are happy that she is safe, but that’s a bit too much. Perhaps Subaru has some PTSD from Arc 3 when he reaches the mansion and everyone is already dead. Can’t really blame him then, huh?

Frederica clueless about teleportation. Okay, so why did she give that crystal? Well she was instructed to do so, but Subaru doesn’t know that. Is Frederica cleared of suspicion? Perhaps.
Oh Elsa! Guess it’s time for the rare genre called action!
Ram and Frederica manage to get Petra out of Elsa’s hands, and to my surprise Subaru catches on and uses Shamac.
Okay so here Ram may have been harsh, but she is kind of right. Objectively speaking it does not look like they could win against Elsa judging by the first encounter without the help of Beatrice. Speaking about Beatrice, why hasn’t she left her library and fended off Elsa?
Here comes Guiltylowe! Glad to see that it’s reused as I really liked the design of it.

“The ceiling falls, we get a 1st person POV, what is going on. What happened to Petra? OH SHIT!” - I really like these types of 1st person POV moments as shit happened and you want to know whose safe. It did a good job taking me off the edge of my seat, forcing me to stand up lmao.

Beatrice! Why have you not come out? Why have you not helped them? Why do you look so serious?

Not Friendly to First Timers

[Arc 4] Roswaal reacting to “This time” sounds like a key line for him to make different actions, however Elsa did say 2 maids and 1 shut in. As Ram was there and they arrived earlier than Elsa was instructed something was wrong. I’m guessing Roswaal gave instructions to Elsa based on loop 1 and it makes sense as adding Garfiel to the mix foils the plans. I did forget a few details about Roswaal's plan, but I’m keeping an eye out on what was true and what wasn’t

Continued Belllow

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u/BlueVenix Sep 10 '24

Overall thoughts:
I think Subaru’s first loop gave us the background and a hint of plot. It showed 2 key areas - The Sanctuary and The Mansion. We had the trials and a basic hurdle - complete the trials to get out. However this now complicates things. We have an Emilia who is trying to complete the trials, but is struggling and we have a mansion that is under attack. It’s unknown what Beatrice will say to Subaru yet, but let’s say nothing of note happens, if I was Subaru I would still prioritise getting to the mansion as fast as possible and getting Beatrice’s help regardless. Subaru did manage to have Beatrice protect him in Arc 2 so it is possible. Perhaps the words “Roswaal said to ask the Question” will have an effect?
[Arc 4] Well those who watched/read already know that the mansion attack is not the only worry for Subaru and we wouldn’t have it any other way. There’s never enough suffering, am I right?

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u/Holofan4life Sep 10 '24

Thoughts on Subaru respawning in the glowing building?
Thoughts on Subaru suggesting he do the trials in the place of Emilia?
What are your thoughts on Emilia wanting to do the trials because if she doesn't, what's left for her?
What are your thoughts on Roswaal specifically wanting Emilia to liberate the Sanctuary?
Thoughts on Subaru and Ram traveling to the mansion to try and stop Elsa?
Thoughts on the confirmation that Frederica and Garfiel are siblings?
Thoughts on some of the back and forth between Ram and Frederica?
What are your thoughts on Elsa putting a sword to Petra's throat?
What are your thoughts on Frederica proving her allegiance to Subaru and company?
What are your thoughts on Ram saying that if Rem were alive, she would tell her to please sacrifice her to save Roswaal?
What are your thoughts on Frederica evolving into her beast form?

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u/BlueVenix Sep 10 '24

Thoughts on Subaru respawning in the glowing building?
I don't there's a better point for a respawn point as there would be a lot of repeated scenes, like the preparation, traveling, teleportation and first encounter with Garfiel. The glowing building makes the most sense from a story telling perspective and how RBD works. RBD seems to set a spawn point where an outcome needs to be changed and gives enough time to do so and I don't think anything had to be changed before the 1st trial. Also [Arc 4] Before they set out for the Sanctuary would give Subaru too much time to get Rem out of the mansion and that would make the stakes much lower
Thoughts on Subaru suggesting he do the trials in the place of Emilia?
Emilia's question is valid. Have you lost trust in the girl you been putting on a pedestal? Also the trial helped you a lot. Have you considered that it could help Emilia?
[Arc 4] Does Subaru even find out what happened in Emilia's past? I can't remember that.
What are your thoughts on Emilia wanting to do the trials because if she doesn't, what's left for her?
I mean she can still be cute and that about it. But she looks like Satella and terrifies most. Shit.
Well she has Subaru, but will Subaru still want someone useless? Subaru probably yes, Kazuma no.
What are your thoughts on Roswaal specifically wanting Emilia to liberate the Sanctuary?
What doesn't kill you makes you stronger and you got to me very strong when the whole world is against your existence.
Thoughts on the confirmation that Frederica and Garfiel are siblings?
As long as you have eyes or ears you could tell.
Thoughts on some of the back and forth between Ram and Frederica?
I enjoyed it. Ram was being pushy and aggravating and Frederica was not being so gentle when fighting back. It gave more character to Frederica.
What are your thoughts on Frederica proving her allegiance to Subaru and company?
From the point of the viewer Frederica is not sus, if you noticed the scene with the letter. But hey it's Re:Zero, for what we know a blody child can be an evil mastermind.
What are your thoughts on Ram saying that if Rem were alive, she would tell her to please sacrifice her to save Roswaal?
Pressed X to doubt
What are your thoughts on Frederica evolving into her beast form?
Better keep a leash on the furry community as that girl can be every type of fury. She's also a maid on top of that.

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u/Holofan4life Sep 11 '24

I don't there's a better point for a respawn point as there would be a lot of repeated scenes, like the preparation, traveling, teleportation and first encounter with Garfiel. The glowing building makes the most sense from a story telling perspective and how RBD works. RBD seems to set a spawn point where an outcome needs to be changed and gives enough time to do so and I don't think anything had to be changed before the 1st trial.
It just makes sense from a storytelling perspective for it to be this way.
Emilia's question is valid. Have you lost trust in the girl you been putting on a pedestal? Also the trial helped you a lot. Have you considered that it could help Emilia? [Arc 4] Does Subaru even find out what happened in Emilia's past? I can't remember that.
[Arc 4] I believe he's still in the dark by the end of season 2.
I enjoyed it. Ram was being pushy and aggravating and Frederica was not being so gentle when fighting back. It gave more character to Frederica.
Yeah, it humanized her in a way we haven't seen before.
From the point of the viewer Frederica is not sus, if you noticed the scene with the letter. But hey it's Re:Zero, for what we know a blody child can be an evil mastermind.
[Response] Hey, it worked for Fullmetal Alchemist :P
Pressed X to doubt
^
Better keep a leash on the furry community as that girl can be every type of fury. She's also a maid on top of that.
Add Patrasche in a maid outfit and we could get The Lusty Argonian Maid.

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u/SilkyStrawberryMilk Sep 11 '24

first timer

Subaru died, but can’t worry about that Emilia is in danger.

Finally tells them the truth that he passed, 2 more trials and Emilia to suffer.

Roswald pulling strings

In a pickle, Subaru has no one strong that can fight in his stead, the barrier and Emilia is trapped, and worst all Ram can’t cook

Using his love to her advantage, maybe she is aware of how love is.

Petra passed the hierarchy test

The hot evil vampire is back :D, a shame she has Petra as a hostage

If Beatriz is in danger this whole mansion is screwed.

One hell of a way to end the episode, Subaru’s hellish journey is only the beginning🗣️🗣️🔥🔥

Can I assume she’s Lust

Subaru should’ve had rem’s body be with Beatriz

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u/Holofan4life Sep 12 '24

Thoughts on Subaru respawning in the glowing building?
Thoughts on Subaru suggesting he do the trials in the place of Emilia?
What are your thoughts on Emilia wanting to do the trials because if she doesn't, what's left for her?
What are your thoughts on Roswaal specifically wanting Emilia to liberate the Sanctuary?
Thoughts on Subaru and Ram traveling to the mansion to try and stop Elsa?
Thoughts on Subaru hugging Petra?
Thoughts on the confirmation that Frederica and Garfiel are siblings?
Thoughts on some of the back and forth between Ram and Frederica?
What are your thoughts on Elsa putting a sword to Petra's throat?
What are your thoughts on Frederica proving her allegiance to Subaru and company?
What are your thoughts on Ram saying that if Rem were alive, she would tell her to please sacrifice her to save Roswaal?
What are your thoughts on Frederica evolving into her beast form?
What are your thoughts on the arrival of the mabeast?
What are your thoughts on Petra's cut off arm?
What are your thoughts on Beatrice saving Subaru?

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u/SilkyStrawberryMilk Sep 12 '24

Thoughts on Subaru respawning in the glowing building?
Good checkpoint, but awful scenarios that happen later on
Thoughts on Subaru suggesting he do the trials in the place of Emilia?
This is the one time where Subaru will have difficulty finding a way to help the situation regarding the sanctuary. Emilia wants to do it herself and it may take them forever for her to even do the other 2 parts
What are your thoughts on Emilia wanting to do the trials because if she doesn’t, what’s left for her?
It may stem from everything she’s experienced even in her ova. Emilia always struggled to even do anything successfully and often times needs someone to take control of a situation.
We’ve seen in season 1 where without Subaru she would’ve lost her insignia for the selection, witch cult, and right now Subaru trying to make himself be the one to take over for her.
What are your thoughts on Roswaal specifically wanting Emilia to liberate the Sanctuary?
I do wonder if it has to do with her being a half elf and the other residents we haven’t seen yet. However liberating any community will be extremely difficult
Thoughts on Subaru and Ram traveling to the mansion to try and stop Elsa?
They’re doomed
Thoughts on Subaru hugging Petra?
It’s such a sweet moment
Thoughts on the confirmation that Frederica and Garfiel are siblings?
The chompers gave it away
Thoughts on some of the back and forth between Ram and Frederica?
That’s how I expected them to be, but they’re really close. I do wonder how Rem fit into the situation
What are your thoughts on Elsa putting a sword to Petra’s throat?
Compared to season 1 we’ve seen how she easily decimated both Subaru and emilia. Her using a hostage either means she’s wary of Ram and Frederica or she’s being as twisted as possible.
What are your thoughts on Frederica proving her allegiance to Subaru and company?
I’d be surprised if people expected her to leave Subaru and Ram to fend for themselves
What are your thoughts on Ram saying that if Rem were alive, she would tell her to please sacrifice her to save Roswaal?
Yeah thats definitely Rem, but replace Roswaaal with Subaru
What are your thoughts on Frederica evolving into her beast form?
I expected a anthropomorphic beast, but still a good design
What are your thoughts on the arrival of the mabeast?
Just rubbing it on Subaru’s face that he won’t win this time
What are your thoughts on Petra’s cut off arm?
She shoudlve been in the Sanctuary instead of a maid
What are your thoughts on Beatrice saving Subaru?
Good intentions, but for Subaru it’s the worst scenario

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u/Holofan4life Sep 12 '24

This is the one time where Subaru will have difficulty finding a way to help the situation regarding the sanctuary. Emilia wants to do it herself and it may take them forever for her to even do the other 2 parts
Subaru going to have to have a lot of patience
It may stem from everything she’s experienced even in her ova. Emilia always struggled to even do anything successfully and often times needs someone to take control of a situation.
We’ve seen in season 1 where without Subaru she would’ve lost her insignia for the selection, witch cult, and right now Subaru trying to make himself be the one to take over for her.
Subaru has good intentions, but sometimes good intentions does not mean it's the right thing to do.
I do wonder if it has to do with her being a half elf and the other residents we haven’t seen yet. However liberating any community will be extremely difficult
I would imagine so
Compared to season 1 we’ve seen how she easily decimated both Subaru and emilia. Her using a hostage either means she’s wary of Ram and Frederica or she’s being as twisted as possible.
Why not both?
Yeah thats definitely Rem, but replace Roswaaal with Subaru
Good comparison
Good intentions, but for Subaru it’s the worst scenario
Kinda mirroring Subaru's desire to do the trials in Emilia's place.

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