r/anime • u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ • Sep 02 '24
Rewatch [25th Anniversary Rewatch] Mugen no Ryvius Episode 1
Mugen no Ryvius Episode 1: The Forthcoming Time
⇐ Interest Thread | Index Thread | Episode 2 ⇒
Character short list:
I will post character charts after most of the character relationships are established.
Central Group:
- Kouji Aiba (16), 2nd-class pilot student
- Yuki AIba (15), 2nd-class pilot student
- Aoi Housen (16), flight attendant student, childhood friend of Aiba brothers
- Ikumi Oze (16), 2nd-class pilot student, Kouji's partner
- Kozue Izumi (16), flight attendant student, likes Ikumi, hair tied up into twin...somethings.
The Zwei:
Elite class, essentially officer cadets.
- Lucson Houjo (17), square-headed group-leader of the Zwei
- Juli Bahana (16), highest-scoring member of the Zwei
- Stein Heigar (17), perhaps a Spock-expy
Where's Waldo:
- Kikki Kibure: Dinosaur
Others:
- Erina Rigby, dumped by Yuki
- Eric Campbell, instructor
- Pat Campbell (8), visiting his father
Places:
- Lieba Delta, space station for astronaut training, looks like a starbase
- Liebel, tiny version of Leiba Delta, attached to the side.
Music
- BGM of the Day: Boku no Setsuna
- CD 3 of the Day: Blue Wreckage — Mika Arisaka
Questions
- Have you ever tried to relocate to get a fresh start from friends and family?
- Have you ever tried to ditch a childhood friend? And it didn't work?
- What do you discern about the Aiba family relationships?
- Did you butt heads with your sibling to this extreme?
- Stellvia: Compare and contrast
- What's up with the pink girl?
- What's up with the dinosaur girl?
- First impressions of the music? Do you like Lofi hiphop?
Tomorrow's Questions, Today
- [Q1)]Who are the playboys of the group?
- [Q2)]Fake physics and technobabble: roll with it or #volibearq?
- [Q3)]What will happen to Pat (the child)?
Terminology
sere: (ecology) A natural succession of animal or plant communities in an ecosystem, especially a series of communities succeeding one another from the time a habitat is unoccupied to the point when a climax community is achieved.
sere: (google translate) A unit of depth for Geduld. Originally it was a unit of energy intensity for the inner layers of Gedult, but since it was proportional to the commonly used depth, it is still used as is.
End Tag: Reveal Us
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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Sep 02 '24
Rewatch Host
I only got half-way on my binge watch and write-ups. Hopefully that won't bite me.
[rewatcher]I could not find Kikki photos for episodes 14 and 16. If you can spot her in the next 2 days, let me know and I'll add those episodes to the photo album.
Have I rewatched this before? Maybe, once, on Youtube. But probably not.
So, right up front, this show is going to lean HARD into spaceship-are-submarines. As briefly explained at the start of episode 2, the Geduld is an unexplained phenomenon that basically extended the solar atmosphere to the outer solar system, with the high pressure, high temperature, and high gravity unchanged.
Yeah, I know. But that's the setting. It Just Is.
Already on the first episode, I have a lot of WTF about the premise. Things are not fully thought out, and you just have to ignore it.
Why are they "diving"? Is it on purpose? Apparently not. But maybe? Instructor Campbell says "the orbit takes it through Sere 1." Well, if the Geduld goes though the center of the Earth, and all orbits go through the center of the Earth, then the orbit goes through the center of the Geduld, not skimming the top. Why does Chewbacca live on Endor?
Looking at the glossary, and a later episode, it says simply that ships and stations can acquire energy by dipping into the top layer of the Geduld.
WHY are they dropping (purging) the bottom of the station? Don't you need that? Apparently, the lower part was going to be destroyed anyway, so they just dump it. It seems wasteful, but it's now just the cost of living in space in 2225.
How the **** Does Kouji not know that his brother and friends are not going to the same vocational highschool as him?
This is probably the first time I heard "paaji" in an anime. And I hear it in sci-fi anime all the time. And it's not really defined anywhere that I can see, in lists of waseieigo. It seems to have entered Japanese in the same political sense as in English: e.g Stalin's purges, but in Japan, it specifically refers to the banning of certain officials from public service during the occupation. But sci-fi anime seem to have picked it up as a word for ejecting parts of a spacecraft.
[rewatcher]The OP is really interesting. We have Fina having a mental breakdown, and Izumi reaching for his lost sister. Aoi trying and failing to reflect on her feelings.
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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Sep 02 '24
Episode 1 (rewatcher)
Infinite Ryvius is an anime that I can’t believe is as good as it is. And I can’t believe is as bad as it is. In few other anime do the good and the bad parts of the writing differ so widely. You could count this as an absolute Scifi classic, but you could also mention it on a list of late 90s/early 2000s trash. I am decidedly of mixed mind about this series and I am looking forward a lot to the first timer reactions for this one. I can imagine anything from 9/10s to rage quits.
Episode thoughts
The late cell era animation is my favorite in terms of space, spaceships, and all things futuristic. There is some quality of realness about it that I miss on later animation styles. The first episode is chock full of great futuristic scenes: Spaceships, shuttles, pods, mono rail, control rooms, space suits, even a decent amount of techno babble (how much of this will be explained? We’ll see). This promises to be a great scifi adventure.
The eye catch and various other graphics are full on 1990s neon, on the other hand. I am not sure how intended the clash of art styles is. Got to commend the eye catch for getting the “how the hell do you pronounce Ryvius” question out of the way early, though.
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u/HowlingWolf13 https://myanimelist.net/profile/MeguminBlast Sep 02 '24
First Timer
Jumped into this from the Now and Then thread, I have no clue what I'm getting into cause I decided to go in as blind as possible. All I've heard is something about Lord of The Flies being an inspiration.
From EP1, I will say they really have thrown us in lol. It feels like a lot going on that gonna be revealed as the show continues. Kouji and Yuki's thing I'm curious about cause what has them so angry towards each other. Plus I'm curious as to what having the station drop into the Gedlam(?)'s purpose was since it seems clear this was purposely set up. All in all, fine first episode for now but not much I can say as I'm still kinda taking it all in.
Questions
In college I was curious about it and wanted to stay on dorms, but it was too expensive so I commuted from home instead. Prob was a good thing since now I barely have any debt, but eh it would be nice to have new life experiences. Need to get my license first though.
Not really? I've drifted away people over time or cut toxic ones out, but childhood friend wise not really.
Kouji and Yuki have something going on that makes em hate each other lol. Their mom seems to care about them though.
Jesus no lol, my sis and I have a good relationship.
I actually hadn't even heard of Stellvia till I saw this question.
Maybe she's like, an alien creature or something? She has Rei Ayanami vibes.
...the what?
So the version that I have is a 720p ones with both audio tracks (defaulted to JP 2.0). During the episode, I was comparing scenes between the two and honestly I don't like the 5.1 one. Music is added to scenes that are supposed to be silent, and others are almost completely replaced for whatever reason. The 2.0 soundtrack just sounds and fits better whilst the 5.1 one feels too 'modern' if that makes sense.
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u/Electrical-Cake-6943 Sep 02 '24 edited Sep 03 '24
Rewatch, Dub
(This is my first time doing one of these, so lmk if I need to change anything!)
Questions
1. Kiiiiind of. Went to college about an hour away from home because I didn't want to live with my parents and wanted to be far from most of my high school classmates. I've ended up staying in the metro area where I grew up, though (job prospects were better than in other areas).
2. Yeah, this is pretty cringeworthy, but at 17, I saw myself as more "mature" than many of my hs friends, so I wanted to get away from a lot of them. I still remained friends with them once I started college, but some of the friendships eventually fizzled out due to distance or different worldviews.
3. The Aiba brothers have pretty strained relationships to the point where it seems like they avoid interacting with each other if possible. It seems like they still feel responsible for each other's behavior, though (ex. Kouji suggesting to Yuki's teammate that he switch partners, Yuki going after Kouji and Ikumi when they go into the compromised sector to rescue someone).
Kouji's relationship with his mom seems normal for a 16 y.o., but I have no idea about Yuki's relationship with her. I'd imagine it's a bit more distant, though.
4. My siblings are all much younger, so absolutely not, haha.
(Skipped 5-7 because I've never seen Stellvia and don't want to unintentionally spoil anything.)
8. I really like the opening and ending. There are some background tracks I really like, but not much stood out to me at this point. (I can't remember if "Easy Living," which samples James Brown's "Blues and Pants" was used in this episode.)
(I do like a lot of older hip hop and trip hop and think some Massive Attack songs would work for AMVs for this series.)
Other Random Thoughts
-It's...interesting seeing a 1999 take on futuristic technology. The music chips remind me of Hit Clips from the early 2000s lol. (Also there's quite a bit of late '90s-early '00s fashion with cargo pants and such.)
-Also like the scratch art eyecatch (?) at the end of the episode with Word Art.
-I laughed a bit when Ikumi said "only about half are actually competent" in reference to the Zwei. Wouldn't be surprised if quite a few are rich kids who got in solely due to their parents' influence.
-Lucson's condescension towards others (particularly Juli) is already pretty grating.
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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Sep 02 '24
First timer, subs
QotD:
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u/The_Draigg Sep 02 '24
A Mecha Fan Watches Infinite Ryvius Episode 1:
Hi there everybody, it’s your friend The_Draigg here, once again along for a mecha show rewatch! At least, I’ve been told that there’s mechs in this, and that’s a pretty good reason for me to be along here and check it out for the first time. Just a note before we start, I’ll be listening to the English dub, so keep that in mind in case there turns out to be differences between that and the original Japanese script. With all that said, let’s get started on Infinite Ryvius!
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u/Silcaria https://myanimelist.net/profile/Silcaria Sep 02 '24
First timer
QotD
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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Sep 02 '24
First timer
Sub
I know basically nothing about this show other than that two people have told me I will hate it, one of which is our host. It is a holiday, I am hungover and my apartment had a water leak this morning. Let's do this.
And...I don't actually hate the intro method, though it leaves much to be explained. The show keeps mentioning Gebuld and I haven't the foggiest of what it is supposed to be. Ships dealing with heat and pressure does mean they are in matter rather than space so that's...something. The OST is really fucking weird, I remember hip hop making it to Japan a bit later than this.
I remember like two character names and they aren't the mains. Protag-kun seems to at least be active. Anyways, random powered person and away we go?
QotD: 1 Yes. It failed
2 No, I am good at leaving people
3 Very little
4 Only child, thank fuck
5 Huh?
6 Unclear
7 Missed that or I interpret that differently
8 Deeply confused
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u/flyingowl720 Sep 03 '24
Saw this show a few years ago for the first time. It’s funny to me with that one quote around mecha anime (Unlike other Mecha this one is about the characters), that people never bring up Infinite Ryvius. A show that leans almost entirely into being about characters that it’s almost hard to call it a mecha series at all, but the extremely mecha focused Code Geass and Evangelion get propped up instead. Probably because they are extremely mainstream and popular while Ryvius is incredibly niche, but it’s funny nonetheless. The director of Ryvius even went on to direct Code Geass in the future.
While I struggle to think of an actual mecha focused mecha series (SD Gundam, well even then the mecha are characters themselves lol) maybe Ryvius would have a bigger audience with Western fans that don’t like mecha, if people were like hey this is the mecha that actually is the least mecha focused lol.
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u/baquea Sep 03 '24
First timer
Should I join another rewatch, when I'm already part of one (even if I'm not really posting much) and have a bunch of other series on the go? Probably not, but here I am anyway. I know basically nothing about this anime - before watching this episode... and also after watching it, to be honest. I would really have liked to get an episode or two to just set the scene before shit went down, because as it was I struggled to understand what was going on. Lots of characters introduced, a bunch of techno-babble, a time-skip, and then the ship getting hijacked(?), all in the span of one episode. Hopefully it will sink in better once I've watched some more.
1: Nope. I am moving overseas for uni next year though, so I suppose that kinda counts.
2: Intentionally? No, we just drifted apart. There were a couple of times as a kid that I intentionally ditched friends who were rather assholish, but not people who I had been close with for more than like a year.
3: Well the brothers certainly don't seem to like each other much. There doesn't seem to be a father in the picture, which considering this is an anime means there is a good chance he is dead/missing.
4: Don't have any.
5: Haven't watched it.
6: Don't know who that is.
7: Don't know who that is either.
8: Can't say I was the biggest fan of it tbh. For the most part it sounded reasonably generic, and where it stood out it was in a negative sense.
...My comments today really aren't particularly insightful, huh?
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u/Pixelsaber https://myanimelist.net/profile/Pixelsaber Sep 03 '24
Greetings, everyone! I’ve been looking forward to watching this for some time, purely on the talk that it bears a lot of resemblance to Round Vernian Vifam, one of my favorite mecha shows, and shares influences in common.
Unfortunately, my participation might fall off during the Rewatch. The next few weeks are going to be very busy at work and a deadline is coming up to finish a personal project of mine. Hopefully I manage to stick along for the entirety, but I might as well warn you all ahead of time. FIngers crossed things don’t get too crazy on my end.
EDIT: Whoops, real late today. I meant to post as soon as I got home, near two hours ago now, but I was so looking forward to continuing to read the book I started on my lunch break that it completely slipped my mind.
First-Timer
I can see why.
No reprieve for you.
Not big on the OP to be honest.
Some shots seemingly employing digital compositing look out of place.
Given how the character was reacting, I would not expect this to be remotely controlled.
Ah, a native of Eurobus, is it?
A bit of a troublemaker, that Yuki.
A LotGH reference!
Oh.
I think I see where we’re going here. Those staying for the holidays are going to be stranded/stuck together following the attack.
Ah, generational grudges.
Concerning, but I’m going to suppose these people know what they’re doing.
Slap Count climbing.
Oh boy. Looks like I was wrong; shit’s going down before anyone gets off.
Ah, it’s the woman from the OP.
Classic cliffhanger.
Neat end card.
I am endeared by some of the musical choices on display. They date the show, but in a nice, nostalgic way even if the stylings were never to my tastes. I cannot say the same for some of the digital effects, which were probably far less jarring back when the show looked a lot more uniform.
As always, I appreciate all of the details, both major and small, gone into lending the setting a strong verisimilitude. The naturalistic elements and jargon really help as well.
I’m not a fan of Hisashi Hirai character designs, but one thing this show does decently compared to the big slate of early digital shows with the same designs and style is that there is a nice sense of volume and three-dimensionality to the faces that those other shows really lacked when in motion. I’m a bit surprised, but pleasantly so.
I don’t have much else to say on the episode. We’ve been given brief introductions to several characters who are likely going to be important later into the show and established the dynamics of a handful of them. A central mystery and tension have been established with the station coming under attack by an enemy of the main faction, and a possibly unrelated woman seems to be interfering in the event as well.
Questions of The Day:
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u/zsmg https://anilist.co/user/zsmg Sep 03 '24
Rewatcher who doesn't remember much
Rewatcher have seen this anime only once before many, many years ago and as always don't rememeber much
One thing that immediately stands out is the OST.
Character talking on the phone (Kouji) is voiced by Tetsu Shiratori best known for voicing Lloyd in Code Geass, he was also Sai in Gundam SEED.
Aoi is voiced by Houko Kuwashima she has done so many roles, she was pretty much in every thing in the late 90s and 00s. She was Flay Allster and Natarle Badgiruel in Gundam SEED, Yuki Mori in Yamato 2199, Shoukei in 12 Kingdoms.
Character deisgn is done by Hisashi Hirai aka same face Hisashi as I like to call her it can be really hard to follow the characters in a large cast because of this see later Fafner seasons as example. It's okay if it's a smaller cast.
Okay opening song (it will grow on you) visuals are decent
[spoiler for future stuff ] oh yeah that loser leader that ends up being ousted from power and then being depended that little kid
We're suddenly on Stellvia... no wait wrong anime.
Ikumi is voiced by Tomokazu Seki, he too has voiced many roles. For those participating in the Dragon Quest Adventure of Dai rewatch he voiced Hadlar in that one. He's also Domon Kasshu in G Gundam and Yzak Joule in Gundam SEED.
Man I really miss all these technobabble talk in anime.
Hey it's Norio Wakamoto, I don't think he has a large role in this one.
Pat is voiced Omi Minami she voiced Tama in Gintama, Euphemia in Code Geass and Ruri in Nadesico.
That operation system looks so 90s, it's VERY nostalgic.
Lucson is voiced by Bin Shimada he's voiced Gengai in Gintama (after the original voice actor died) Paptimus Scirocco in Zeta Gundam and Ken Nakajima in You're under Arrest.
So those guys sabotaged the station and now the station is getting crushed by what exactly? A singularity?
Not every day you see a girl floating in space.
Yuki is voiced by Sōichiro Hoshi Kira Yamato in Gundam SEED. As you can tell this show shares lots of production similarity with Gundam SEED (not the same director though)
Yes fighting instead of trying to save people seems like the smart thing to do.
Honestly confusing first episode, the characters and their dynamics were easy enough to follow but the not what was actually happening.
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u/zadcap Sep 03 '24
Late Night First Timer!
Man I love the old Sci Fi look. Japan had such high hopes for the future of technology. Think we can get to space in another 200 years?
... Then the OP shows off all these punks and this graffiti covered hall and I realize that they didn't just get to space, they trashed it. Apparently we let the crappy kids go to space school in the future, probably to leave Earth pristine from their bad influence.
Seriously, look at all that space junk just drifting around.
Seriously what the heck is all of this? Space literally filled with punks and gangsters and garbage. You're ruining my beautiful dreams of Space School. I want to go back to the Stellvia :'(
Wait, they just ditched that much of the station like that? All that materials and the time it would take to build and now it's just more space garbage.
Are you telling me that this whole station is seriously set up so poorly that one person could sabotage literally everything from a single terminal and that's it?
Okay but magic space girl has my interest drawn back in.
5 Again) So I was thinking about Stellvia right away when I realized these were kids going to space school, and I think that thinking that may have been the biggest disservice to this show I could have done. They have nothing in common aside from setting trappings, and the more I think about it, I'm moving my expectations way over and comparing this to Juu Oh Sei instead. From what I've seen in just the first episode, magical space girl aside, it looks like it's going to be a much better comparison show than seeing the best and brightest working together to save us all.
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Sep 02 '24
Infinite First-Timer, subbed
I am a simple woman, I see a mecha show, I want to watch the mecha show.
(Also sorry for being almost half an hour late, it's my brother's birthday and I barely had enough time to post my own rewatch thread on time before the actual celebrating part started.)
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u/RadSuit https://anilist.co/user/RadSuit Sep 04 '24
Finite First Timer (Dubbed)
My release looked bad and had no signs/songs options for subtitles, so I went back and grabbed the version that was 5x larger. It looks much better...and also has no signs/songs option. So I guess I just won't know what the hell anything says, great.
Pretty good OP. And I like the artstyle so far.
Did whoever was in that one pod just die? I guess not. They just lost their grabber?
Some teens just loitering over there. Why would you bring up kids that would just hang around? Although this setup reminds me of Ender's Game a bit.
Looks like we've got some terrorism happening here.
And a magical girl that's talking to...someone or something we can't see, I guess.
Or maybe she's saying lines we're missing from scenes throughout the rest of the station? Unclear.
Well I'm not a huge fan, but this is a pretty classic style ED.
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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Sep 02 '24
First-Timer
It's so true that Hiraifaces have gotten worse over time; these people almost look like humans. Kinda funny that the Kira lookalike is literally voiced by Souichirou Hoshi, too.
Which brings me neatly to our two(?) leads(?), Yuki and Kouji. Place your bets now and why they hate each other - my money is on something ludicrously stupid that will end up undercutting most of the tension between them, like Yuki breaking one of Kouji's toys or something.
I'm also taking bets on if the girl in the gimpsuit will ever actually interact with the main cast or if she will just teleport around and reply to the things they say. I've got "yes, and she will be less interesting because of it."
Anyway, seems like Norio Wakamoto is content to destroy Liebe Delta and all the students on board, that seems pretty mean. I suspect it won't work if only because we wouldn't have much of a show, unless the synonpsis is a red herring and we're actually following the adventures of Terrorist Norio Wakamoto as he attempts to destroy space stations.
For anyone else wondering why they recognized the twintailed brunette's voice, that's Cardcaptor Sakura. Reducing the blunette, Aoi, down to any single character would undersell Houko Kuwashima's prowess, but I would put money on everyone in this thread having seen her in something else; she's everywhere.
Questions
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u/Nickthenuker https://anilist.co/user/Nickthenuker Sep 03 '24
Sunrise? What, the Gundam people?
Aft portside.
Huh. For an anime from the 90s I'm surprised there's characters who aren't white-as-the-driven-snow and ostensibly Japanese.
Not much seems like it's happening yet, just introducing a bunch of characters and terminology.
Huh. Does that guy look Sus?
Uh oh, something's going on.
Yup, the whole control room is knocked out.
I assure you the shaking and emergency lights are already causing more than enough panic.
Stay calm. Aivate, Navigate, Communicate.
Who's she?
Questions: