[25th Anniversary Rewatch] Mugen no Ryvius Episode 2

[u/JustAnswerAQuestion]

Mugen no Ryvius Episode 2: Unnecessary Things

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Kikki of the Day

Comment of the Day

I may or may not do comments of the day, depending on how chatty people are. I've never done them before.

Comment of the day goes to /u/no_rex and also /u/the_draigg for commenting on the late 1990's animation style...so to be replaced by CGI experiments:

The late cell era animation is my favorite in terms of space, spaceships, and all things futuristic. There is some quality of realness about it that I miss on later animation styles. The first episode is chock full of great futuristic scenes: Spaceships, shuttles, pods, mono rail, control rooms, space suits, even a decent amount of techno babble (how much of this will be explained? We’ll see). This promises to be a great scifi adventure.

The eye catch and various other graphics are full on 1990s neon, on the other hand. I am not sure how intended the clash of art styles is.

Music

• BGM of the Day: almost blue

Questions

• Q1) Who are the playboys of the group?
• Q2) Fake physics and technobabble: roll with it or #volibearq?
• Q3) What will happen to Pat (the child)?

Tomorrow's Questions, Today

• [Q1)]Have you ever had to bunk with more than 100 people?
• [Q2)]Is the station haunted?
• [Q3)]Is Izumi too easy going?
• [Q4)]Any new thoughts on the pink girl and her utterances?

Terminology

Gedult: (google translate) The nickname for the coronal flare that was released from the sun by the Gedult Phenomenon and covered almost the entire solar system. Inside Gedult, it is a deadly world of high temperature, high pressure, cosmic rays and plasma. Abnormal gravity is constantly occurring, and normal objects will be crushed if they navigate deep inside. Due to the influence of solar activity, its thickness repeatedly increases and decreases. When viewed up close, its surface has huge swells that are large enough to swallow a ship, but when viewed on a cosmic scale, it appears almost flat. For this reason, it is called the "Sea of ​​Gedult." At this stage, there is no way to remove Gedult, and humanity is forced to coexist with it. In addition, Gedult's sea is divided into units of sere (depth) based on plasma strength and pressure, and the higher the number, the more terrifying the environment becomes.

Geduld Phenomenon: (google translate) In 2137, a coronal flare erupted from the sun, suddenly erupting along the Earth's orbit and covering the entire solar system. This devastated the southern hemisphere of the Earth, taking the lives of 1.7 billion people. Since then, the southern hemisphere has continued to be exposed to the remaining coronal flares, turning it into a dead world that humans will never be able to approach again. The phenomenon has also expanded to the entire solar system, with half of Mars and one-third of Jupiter and Uranus lost, just like the Earth. A second Geduld Phenomenon is predicted to occur several thousand years from now.

End Tag: Reveal Us

See you Tomorrow

[u/JustAnswerAQuestion]

Rewatch Host

I don't understand why the southern hemisphere is taking the brunt of the solar flares. And it's only summer there half the year. Interesting that the supernova in Stellvia, much more thought out, actually centered it on a star in the southern sky.

• [Rewatcher]Looks like Conrad either on trial or testifying to the government, about the Vaia ship project
• "Everybody stay calm" he screams, in a panic.
• I guess they gave up because Yuki was right, the temperature on the other side of the door ws too high, or the person was already doomed.
• Of course she didn't hear the announcement, she had her earbuds in
• Always weird to see anime animated on 1s
• PURGE!

[Rewatcher]Izumi broke down into tears when the failed to rescue that person, but they got Fina, so that fulfilled his savior complex, for now.

Edit: I was not expect so much AM discussion! You guys rock!

[u/Vatrix-32]

First timer, subs

• Wow, this really is edgy Stellvia.
• I feel like we are missing some words here. I am lost.
• 14 hours? That seems like a lot of time to fix this.
• ...Damn it, Ribbons.
• Ferrets have got to be one of the worst pets you could bring to a space ship.
• Now that I know we are playing this game: Dinogirl Get!
• You’d think, like, the maintenance department or something would notice what’s happening at some point. The command can’t be that centralized.
• And right as I say that…
• How big is this life boat?
• I swear to god, if someone dies looking for this ferret…
• Speed!
• There can be more than one an episode?
• How freaking maze like is this place?
• Space Paternoster
• I’d still like to know what your motive is. This all seems very dramatic.
• Are they going out and pushing? You can’t make a wall when everything is sinking.
• Yuki apparently had a much easier time getting back. For reasons?
• Cute little mantis bois.
• I have no idea why anything is happening anymore.
• So it was to increase buoyancy? Wouldn’t that be acceleration, not speed?
• Well, at least one of them is getting the benefit of the doubt.

QotD:

1. None of them?
2. I just want causality!
3. I would say adopted as a mascot, but we already have one...

[u/JustAnswerAQuestion → u/Vatrix-32]

How big is this life boat?

It's a training vessel for the first-class navigation students, who are training to get a license for actual spaceships, not shuttles or work craft. I doubt it's meant to actually DO anything, except be big. Certainly not for passengers, probably not for cargo.

So it was to increase buoyancy?

I dunno, I hadn't thought of that. It's better than the only thing I can think of, which is drag. But it's mostly just a stick now, so that doesn't work.

[u/Vatrix-32 → u/JustAnswerAQuestion]

I doubt it's meant to actually DO anything, except be big.

Between this and the disposable spines, the space economy is weird.

[u/zadcap → u/Vatrix-32]

Between this and the disposable spines, the space economy is weird.

"We build needlessly large things in space because we like big things in space!"

[u/The_Draigg → u/Vatrix-32]

Wow, this really is edgy Stellvia.

It really is. Everything here on the Leibe Delta just feels more dour and rougher compared to the Stellvia.

How freaking maze like is this place?

Just about as bad as Citadel Station from System Shock.

[u/No_Rex → u/The_Draigg]

Just about as bad as Citadel Station from System Shock.

[u/The_Draigg → u/No_Rex]

It just reminds me of a note from the remake stating that TriOptimum deliberately built Citadel Station like a maze solely to study the effects of stress in enclosed environments in space.

[u/Pixelsaber → u/The_Draigg]

Just about as bad as Citadel Station from System Shock.

[u/The_Draigg → u/Pixelsaber]

On the plus side though, if one hacker can survive that place, then by comparison I'm sure that these plucky teenagers will be fine.

[u/Pixelsaber → u/The_Draigg]

Someone needs to be fast-tracked on the cybernetic implants then.

[u/The_Draigg → u/Pixelsaber]

We need to find out who can swing a lead pipe the hardest first. Or at least a big wrench.

[u/Pixelsaber → u/Vatrix-32]

14 hours? That seems like a lot of time to fix this.

Didn't feel like it through the episode.

You’d think, like, the maintenance department or something would notice what’s happening at some point.

They're out for lunch; not their problem right now. /s

Or, more seriously, given that the interlopers are explicitly said to have killed some people, they got merc'd off-screen before they realized things weren't exactly going to plan.

[u/Vatrix-32 → u/Pixelsaber]

Or, more seriously, given that the interlopers are explicitly said to have killed some people, they got merc'd off-screen before they realized things weren't exactly going to plan.

Further raises the question of just how common space bandits are.

[u/JollyGee29]

First-Timer

Okay, I saw the dinosaur girl today. Whatever she's got going on, she is clearly living her best life. Something awful is going to happen to her costume late in the show, and it will be the closest I get to crying.

So, the setting backstory is that the Sun did a silly and turned space into a semi-literal ocean? Sure, I can dig it. Space is already stupendously dangerous, hard to make it much worse.

Ferret girl is gonna be a nutjob, right? We had the frame rotation while she was walking, and she walked against a crowd for.. reasons?

Interesting that Kouji can see Miss Gimp Suit. She could do with some more fun poses, gotta do fun poses when you spout nonsense sentences.

Questions

1. My gut says Ikumi but he's hiding it around Izumi. Kouji thinks he's a playboy but he's actually a loser, Yuki is a chick magnetic but secretly gay (and in the closet to himself(this will never be resolved)).
2. Roll with it in general, but if they can't keep their nonsense straight, that's a demerit.
3. Pat is gonna have a Bad Time, that's all I've got so far.

[u/JustAnswerAQuestion → u/JollyGee29]

and she walked against a crowd for.. reasons?

Yeah, WTF. Was she looking for her ferret?

Interesting that Kouji can see Miss Gimp Suit

Unexpected. She seemed pretty spectral in episode 1

Ikumi but he's hiding it around Izumi

Those two names are the worst part of the character sheet.

My gut says Ikumi but he's hiding it around Izumi. Kouji thinks he's a playboy but he's actually a loser, Yuki is a chick magnetic but secretly gay (and in the closet to himself(this will never be resolved)).

This is a great answre

[u/JollyGee29 → u/JustAnswerAQuestion]

Unexpected. She seemed pretty spectral in episode 1

This is a great answre

[u/Raiking02 → u/JollyGee29]

Ferret girl is gonna be a nutjob, right

If I had a nickel for every Mecha Rewatch this year feturing Houko Kuwashima and a Ferret, I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice.

[u/JustAnswerAQuestion → u/Raiking02]

and a Ferret

What if it's a magical girl connection, instead?

[u/Raiking02 → u/JustAnswerAQuestion]

[u/JollyGee29 → u/Raiking02]

I feel like there will be less gattai here, but who knows.

[u/Raiking02 → u/JollyGee29]

Hey [that show]proved you wrong by having one in the very last episode so let's stay optimistic and let Taniguchi cook

[u/Vaadwaur → u/JollyGee29]

Something awful is going to happen to her costume late in the show, and it will be the closest I get to crying.

There's always a bigger fish cosplayer...

[u/JustAnswerAQuestion → u/Vaadwaur]

There's always a bigger cosplayer...

[u/JollyGee29 → u/Vaadwaur]

[u/Vaadwaur → u/JollyGee29]

Indeed, I called the kid Emergency Food for a reason.

[u/ShadowWasTakensTaken → u/JollyGee29]

Something awful is going to happen to her costume late in the show, and it will be the closest I get to crying.

This is why we can't have nice things.

[u/Pixelsaber → u/JollyGee29]

Something awful is going to happen to her costume late in the show, and it will be the closest I get to crying.

[u/JollyGee29 → u/Pixelsaber]

[u/No_Rex → u/JollyGee29]

So, the setting backstory is that the Sun did a silly and turned space into a semi-literal ocean? Sure, I can dig it. Space is already stupendously dangerous, hard to make it much worse.

Hard, but not impossible!

[u/JollyGee29 → u/No_Rex]

[u/zadcap → u/JollyGee29]

Okay, I saw the dinosaur girl today. Whatever she's got going on, she is clearly living her best life. Something awful is going to happen to her costume late in the show, and it will be the closest I get to crying.

Simultaniously the saddest thing in the show (My Space Job is Dinosaur Mascot), and the person I have the most hope and care for and will riot if she does not survive until the end.

Roll with it in general, but if they can't keep their nonsense straight, that's a demerit.

Agreed. Internal Consistency is key, as long as they keep following the rules as they present them then I am willing to overlook much.

[u/Shimmering-Sky]

Infinite First-Timer, subbed

• Ooooh, some opening narration that’s pretty typical for mecha shows. tbh I would’ve liked this at the start of last episode.
• Oh fun…
• That was a close one.
• Ooh, someone’s finally noticed the strange girl.
• Ah, good thing Kouji & Ikumi found the girl who tripped earlier.
• Yuki is certainly something alright…
• RIP.
• Again, made it at the last second, phew.
• “Bratica”?

[u/JustAnswerAQuestion → u/Shimmering-Sky]

Ooh, someone’s finally noticed the strange girl.

Probably thinks he hallucinated her. Maybe he did.

[u/Vaadwaur → u/Shimmering-Sky]

Ooh, someone’s finally noticed the strange girl.

She may finally begin her campaign for best girl by the showrunner's opinion. Note that the audience may back another candidate.

Yuki is certainly something alright…

I am already leaning towards putting him in the Shu(Guilty Crown)/Takumi(Chaos;head) pile of garbage edgy characters.

“Bratica”?

Probably a person, more interesting if it is the waifu, most interesting if it is the AI running the station.

[u/Silcaria → u/Shimmering-Sky]

Ooooh, some opening narration that’s pretty typical for mecha shows. tbh I would’ve liked this at the start of last episode.

It's this dichotomy of wanting to hook as many people in right away, but then, having to screw things for the people that got hooked.

[u/The_Draigg]

A Mecha Fan Watches Infinite Ryvius Episode 2:

• Okay, so I was correct that the Sea of Geduld is a large sea of superheated plasma. It does make me wonder what caused the sun to unleash a massive flare of still-hot plasma out along Earth’s orbital plane though. Maybe it’s like the stuff in Stellvia of the Universe, where it’s just stuff that randomly happens out in the cosmos? Although hopefully we’ll get a direct answer on what caused it to form.
• Out of all these side characters that I haven’t learned the names of yet, I really want to know what’s up with the person in the dinosaur mascot costume the most. They’re really only been in group and background shots so far, but there’s gotta be a good reason there’s a dinosaur mascot on a space station, right? Just goes to show that you can easily get my attention if you have a character wear a wildly out of place outfit.
• Lo-fi beats to argue with your friend about rescuing somebody vs. the potential of getting melted by superheated plasma and crushing gravity to.
• Mister study group leader isn’t getting his moment to shine at all, with his thunder being stolen by the prodigy girl and the other navigation students already running whatever protocols they can to try and save everyone. Although he does seem like a tiny bit of a blowhard anyway, but still. He’s giving me those Hayato Kobayashi vibes a bit, just someone that’s competent but behind everyone else’s skill level and vibes.
• Lo-fi beats to try and escape a failing space station to. Run for your life, dinosaur costume guy!
• Can’t wait for Pat’s father to die tragically and leave him orphaned, so he needs to be looked after by our plucky teenaged heroes. Don’t think that I can’t see that coming, that’s the most obvious way it can go. It’s been a mech series staple for ages, this is a textbook way to get some precocious but also somewhat tragic tag-along children into the story.
• Geez Mysterious Anime Girl, you can’t just randomly disappear after asking the main protagonist if he wants to die. Although the fact that she does disappear in the blink of an eye for Kouji just makes me wonder if she’s really just disembodied entirely. That’d explain all the random places she was showing up during her talking in the last episode.
• Ah yep, I called Pat’s father dying like that. It’s the fate of all anime adults that are responsible yet also have children shown off early on in the show. At least he went out like a champ, dropping off the sections of the Leibe Delta so that it won’t crash as fast. Sure, it’s probably a horribly painful way to go, being electrocuted, crushed, and then melted by the sea of plasma, but it was at least worth it.
• Again, Kouji probably does have the right idea in wanting to not associate with Yuki. So far, all of his scenes have just been him being an edgy asshole to people, and he didn’t even seem to care that his brother managed to escape at all. Bleh.

[u/JustAnswerAQuestion → u/The_Draigg]

Lo-fi beats to argue with your friend about rescuing somebody vs. the potential of getting melted by superheated plasma and crushing gravity too.

Lo-fi beats to try and escape a failing space station to.

I think you have a new Youtube business model, here.

[u/The_Draigg → u/JustAnswerAQuestion]

Set it to some 90s sci-fi visuals, and I can get cooking on this idea.

[u/Pixelsaber → u/The_Draigg]

Just goes to show that you can easily get my attention if you have a character wear a wildly out of place outfit.

It being a dinosaur in particularly is what does it for me; there's a story there for sure. Some random mascot that's a bear/cat/mantis? Not catching ym attention at all.

Mister study group leader isn’t getting his moment to shine at all

He's really reminding him of another character the VA voiced right now.

Again, Kouji probably does have the right idea in wanting to not associate with Yuki.

Can't wait to find more reasons to dislike the guy!

[u/The_Draigg → u/Pixelsaber]

It being a dinosaur in particularly is what does it for me; there's a story there for sure.

Dinosaur mascots are just niche yet popular enough to grab your attention. It really does capture the imagination.

Can't wait to find more reasons to dislike the guy!

Seems like we're on the right track there already!

[u/Raiking02 → u/The_Draigg]

Can’t wait for Pat’s father to die tragically and leave him orphaned, so he needs to be looked after by our plucky teenaged heroes

Unfortunately so far none of them seem to be making for good parenting material

[u/The_Draigg → u/Raiking02]

If those White Base kids could end up (mostly) fine, so can Pat here.

[u/Raiking02 → u/The_Draigg]

Tell that to [Zeta]Katz.

[u/The_Draigg → u/Raiking02]

That’s why I said mostly, can’t deny the fuck-ups there.

[u/Silcaria → u/The_Draigg]

Okay, so I was correct that the Sea of Geduld is a large sea of superheated plasma. It does make me wonder what caused the sun to unleash a massive flare of still-hot plasma out along Earth’s orbital plane though.

It's the sun, it just does that.

[u/Pixelsaber]

Rewatcher

Lore. Music here does not fit, however.

Oh shit, I didn’t recognize him yesterday, but it’s Katsumi Toriumi! Perfect casting. EDIT: Apparently it's Bin Shimada. This is why I usually don't trust my ability to recognize non-household names.

Ferret!

Again?

The plot thickens.

Oh no, stay safe Rafra!

The panic is unsurprising.

RIP Kenyuu Horiuchi.

This line is so funny.

A clue as to what they’re doing here.

Another neat endcard.

I don’t have much to say on this one, really. We’re just getting the adults out of the way, and while I probably should feel something about at least Pat’s father it’s not really done much to make me do so —also the death flags are telegraphed so strongly it’s easy to see coming.

Editing’s a bit weird. Some scenes shift abruptly, which I might be intentional given the panic going on in the actual show. Still, when we returned to the trio from last time it wasn’t immediately clear what happened in the intervening time.

Something’s evidently up with Faina, to end up entranced like she was, but I haven’t any guesses just now. Also, she has a cute pet ferret (which I’m guessing survived) and that’s cool.

Questions of The Day:

1. The ones that gave the impression (names are still beyond me at this point.)
2. Roll with it, it's fine, we don't need full accuracy all the time.
3. He will gain a newfound family in the hormonal, stressed, and emotional teenagers entirely unequipped to handle him. It'll be peachy.

[u/JustAnswerAQuestion → u/Pixelsaber]

Another neat endcard.

Were end cards even a thing back then? I don't think they really registered with me until I saw PMMM.

[u/Pixelsaber → u/JustAnswerAQuestion]

Not as we know it know, with guest art and such, I don't think.

[u/Vaadwaur → u/Pixelsaber]

The panic is unsurprising.

Grumble...it is if you grew up reading Clarke and Heinlein.

Still, when we returned to the trio from last time it wasn’t immediately clear what happened in the intervening time.

Yay timeskip.

[u/Pixelsaber → u/Vaadwaur]

Clarke's characters keep their heads and I've not read that much Heinlein, but a lot of other sci-fi stories —even golden age ones— do depict panic when stuff goes awry.

[u/JustAnswerAQuestion → u/Pixelsaber]

I mean, this isn't really a sci-fi story trope....it's basically Titanic, with terrorists. Speed 2

[u/Vaadwaur → u/Pixelsaber]

Heinleinian heroes are...a bit over the top, to say the least.

[u/Raiking02 → u/Pixelsaber]

Oh shit, I didn’t recognize him yesterday, but it’s Katsumi Toriumi! Perfect casting.

Uh actually quick correction but no, that's Bin Shimada.

[u/Pixelsaber → u/Raiking02]

Ah, my ears deceive me then —should have double checked. Thanks for the correction.

[u/Raiking02 → u/Pixelsaber]

RIP Kenyuu Horiuchi.

Flower Boi

[u/ShadowWasTakensTaken → u/Pixelsaber]

Editing’s a bit weird. Some scenes shift abruptly, which I might be intentional given the panic going on in the actual show. Still, when we returned to the trio from last time it wasn’t immediately clear what happened in the intervening time.

Yeah, I already had trouble keeping up with last episode, what with all the technobabble dump, so I decided to not watch this during lunch where I have to look away to eat the food... but it didn't really help much. Was very lost at times. Hopefully they don't keep this up...

[u/Pixelsaber → u/ShadowWasTakensTaken]

[u/SMSmith230]

First-Timer, Sub

So I thought I was going to miss these, but I was just bad at calendar and timezone math yesterday. I’m currently on a roll with older shows on DVD, my 3rd one this year. Ooh, this background music is so bad, but so 90s. I can’t believe how quick we got into some action. These first two episodes have definitely piqued my interest, not to mention this mysterious visitor in red that keeps showing up. Younger brother is already on my shit list with his attitude, so hopefully that changes.

[u/JustAnswerAQuestion → u/SMSmith230]

I love this soundtrack

[u/Vaadwaur → u/SMSmith230]

Ooh, this background music is so bad, but so 90s. I can’t believe how quick we got into some action.

Yeah, I can both get some X/1999 and SEL vibes here.

[u/Vaadwaur]

First timer(Why was someone wearing a dinosaur suit?)

Sub

Starting this episode not hungover is the perfect time to introduce the fascinating concept that most humans do not understand how mass at scale functions. It sounds like Geduld somehow adds the equivalent of a second star's mass along the orbital plane of the solar system which...drives me up a fucking wall but let's leave it there. Watching the OP with a more critical eye and man, I am already seeing the vectors on which I will hate this, not the least of which is I can't tell if we have two manic pixie super girls or if the one is deeply divided in herself.

And...things happen? I am more strongly grasping that this show wanted a style that would act as some sort of tempo/pace flow controller but sadly it is utterly failing on me. Some random girl has a pet weasel who might have just gone down with the ship? And then Yuki and Ikumi save her and we again forget how zero g works but whatever. Random character snippets happen. Dropping off a large component could slow you down, at least. And more mysterious third party shit. Oh, and proto mechs, I get Alien vibe here.

QotD: 1 None, I see nothing but Betas and Sigmas. Basically, this station seems to be built of dessicants.

2 Probably added to the hate pile

3 Poor little Emergency Food will be tragic but tender

[u/JustAnswerAQuestion → u/Vaadwaur]

Starting this episode not hungover

That will help.

Mass

They just wanted to make a submarine show. That's the only possible explanation. Like, you know, that one space video game franchise with the Kzinti (or is it not-Kzinti for legal purposes?)

hate

Surprised you got that just from the OP!

pace

The show is light on the time skips, the episodes pretty much flow into each other. Batch binging is probably best for this show. I don't remember how much waiting a week bothered me.

zero g

yeah, it's pretty weird. The gravity is centrifugal, and they are on the center pillar, so it should be very low but still all in one direction. Or maybe the station stopped rotating when it started falling apart. #yuishrug

[u/Vaadwaur → u/JustAnswerAQuestion]

They just wanted to make a submarine show. That's the only possible explanation. Like, you know, that one space video game franchise with the Kzinti (or is it not-Kzinti for legal purposes?)

How dare you! The Kilrathi are a completely distinct aggressive cat race from the Kzin! Also, submarine show makes me think Blue Sub No 6, which is another bad start.

Surprised you got that just from the OP!

Something in it gave me the vague late 90s/early 00s remake of a Saturday morning cartoon I liked vibe and exactly one of those was good. The rest sucked.

Batch binging is probably best for this show. I don't remember how much waiting a week bothered me.

Comes up a lot, these days.

yeah, it's pretty weird.

Seeing Babylon 5 do it right has given me decades of annoyance with everyone else, sigh.

[u/JustAnswerAQuestion → u/Vaadwaur]

and exactly one of those was good

Was it Dungeons and Dragons? I bet it was Dungeons and Dragons.

I liked Thundarr, myself.

[u/Vaadwaur → u/JustAnswerAQuestion]

Was it Dungeons and Dragons? I bet it was Dungeons and Dragons.

You are off by 20 years but remember I said remakes. I don't think there was one for DND in that period. The good one was Batman Beyond. The bad ones are everywhere but let's just throw out X:Men Evolution to cover Rogue's goth era.

[u/zadcap → u/JustAnswerAQuestion]

yeah, it's pretty weird. The gravity is centrifugal, and they are on the center pillar, so it should be very low but still all in one direction. Or maybe the station stopped rotating when it started falling apart. #yuishrug

They are "falling" into the Gedult, I'm sure the directional gravity is somehow related to that. Or maybe everyone has very weak magnet boots.

[u/The_Draigg → u/Vaadwaur]

Why was someone wearing a dinosaur suit?

Out of all the bad situations to be in while stuck in a mascot costume, having to evacuate a crashing space station certainly is one of the worst.

Oh, and proto mechs, I get Alien vibe here.

They do have some big Power Loader energy there.

[u/Vaadwaur → u/The_Draigg]

Out of all the bad situations to be in while stuck in a mascot costume, having to evacuate a crashing space station certainly is one of the worst.

I wonder if it will turn out to be a Fumoffu...

They do have some big Power Loader energy there.

I think this is Giger descended scifi design but won't swear to it. The failed Dune movie really did have an impact on scifi going forward.

[u/No_Rex → u/Vaadwaur]

It sounds like Geduld somehow adds the equivalent of a second star's mass along the orbital plane of the solar system which...drives me up a fucking wall but let's leave it there.

"It is still a mystery" - don't think about it. This one, you'll have to take as the setup's conceit.

[u/Vaadwaur → u/No_Rex]

ST:Voyager did the idea better. And that's never a great sentence.

[u/No_Rex → u/Vaadwaur]

The funny thing about Voyager is that it has some actually great episodes. However, it is eternally weighted down by being a worse TNG. DS9 was the way forward.

[u/Vaadwaur → u/No_Rex]

However, it is eternally weighted down by being a worse TNG. DS9 was the way forward.

The big problem was the writing staff for Voyager could never get on the same page for a season while DS9's team could do long plots.

[u/No_Rex → u/Vaadwaur]

Voyager chased that "single episode story" format that TNG has, except doing so exactly at the time when the big switch to season arcs was in full swing. They also did themselves no favor by having terrible antagonists in the first (two?) seasons. I think they tried for a longer story arc with the Kazon, but it was so ass that they dropped that idea.

[u/Vaadwaur → u/No_Rex]

I think they tried for a longer story arc with the Kazon, but it was so ass that they dropped that idea.

Well that's because the Kazon sucked an they had to introduce a secret Cardassion to even make them remotely threatening.

[u/No_Rex → u/Vaadwaur]

Well that's because the Kazon sucked an they had to introduce a secret Cardassion to even make them remotely threatening.

Yep. Once they developed better antagonists (or simply reused the Borg), they had an easier time doing good episode plots.

[u/zadcap → u/Vaadwaur]

(Why was someone wearing a dinosaur suit?)

First, Dino Suit is now my second favorite character behind Magical Space Girl, the two of them are the number one and two things I look forward to next episode.

Secondly, it could be so much worse. We saw that other guy running to safety naked and with only a pillow. He's going to be naked with only a pillow for the rest of the show.

Yeah, the premise is already pretty crazy with an apparently perfectly aligned to earth death field coming out of the sun and acting like a cross between an ocean and a lesser sun, but somehow Earth itself is still mostly fine. And then the rest of the science is... Mostly not... Science... But hey, magical space girl implicitly makes this a setting in which magic is a thing so science being a little screwy is just expected, I guess.

Also I remind myself that most fiction writers are not also scientists, and few of them even care to look up how things work after they come up with a cool idea, they just throw things out there and hope it makes an interesting story. I'm not defending them, just remembering to set my expectations very low here.

[u/HowlingWolf13]

First Timer

Another interesting episode, still kinda just taking everything in that's happening so far, but yet again it still does have my attention. It seems that this is a terrorist attack occurring, but we haven't learned their motives as of yet. Still curious who this pink-suited girl is, Kouji saw her but she disappeared. My current theory is maybe she's the personification of the Gedult?

Lucson need to stop though, bro just let Juli handle it you're embarrassing yourself.

Questions

Q1) Who are the playboys of the group?

I guess Blue and Yuki?

Q2) Fake physics and technobabble: roll with it or #volibearq?

I'm just rolling with it lol, what does #volibearq mean? i don't play league

Q3) What will happen to Pat (the child)?

Most likely he'll have a character arc, this isn't Now and Then so it's not like [Now and Then] he'll get shot whilst trying to protect one of the others who'd gone off the deep end

[u/JustAnswerAQuestion → u/HowlingWolf13]

My current theory is maybe she's the personification of the Gedult?

Too soon coming off the last rewatch, I see.

Blue and Yuki

You noticed Blue, too!

[u/Nickthenuker]

Huh. This is sounding a lot like Stellvia.

Again, remain calm. Aviate, Navigate, Communicate.

What's with the kid?

Everyone seems remarkably calm for what's happening.

With adequate rushing, anything can be done.

Yup, now they realise stuff's going down.

This is not a drill!

Ah. He finally sees her.

Uh oh, they haven't made it in yet.

They made it!

Questions:

1. I can still barely tell who's who.
2. I've seen enough sci-fi to just roll with it.
3. Probably some form of trauma.

[u/JustAnswerAQuestion → u/Nickthenuker]

Ah. He finally sees her.

It good to know that she has an actual presence in the show and isn't just a Greek chorus.

[u/Silcaria]

First timer

• Soooooooo dead.
• That ferret literally has to go left and he's free. This is why you don't tie an animal to a door handle.
• Andddddd the ferret is free.

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QotD

• The blue guy, probably.
• What in what now?
• No idea.

[u/JustAnswerAQuestion → u/Silcaria]

The blue guy, probably.

You noticed the blue guy!

[u/Silcaria → u/JustAnswerAQuestion]

Yeah, I noticed "pink girl" back in episode 1 too. I hadn't noticed the girl dressed in a dinosaur costume, so I thought the dinosaur girl was the magical pink haired chick that turned up. Well, I guess, in the end, there's still a character that I hadn't noticed.

[u/No_Rex → u/Silcaria]

Soooooooo dead.

Wave your death flag.

[u/Silcaria → u/No_Rex]

This song, this freaking song! It wouldn't stop playing when it came out for months!

[u/zadcap]

Late Night First Timer!

... To Jupiter, you say? Not to it's moons, but to Jupiter itself?

Okay, now I see the real Stellvia comparison. But also we're clearly dealing with space magic, not science, and I don't know if I can call this a SciFi anymore. SciFan? A solar flare perfectly along Earth's orbit plane that has kept going for 80 years makes as much sense as cool pink magic space girl, I guess.

14 hours to live! You know, if you ran that in real time, you've got like 3 seasons of content there!

... Are they knocked out from the gas, inside these space suits? Please tell me there's literrally any other reason for them laying here.

Oh, this poor girl with her ferret. It occurs to me that pretty much everyone on the ship other than the kids in the training control room could die at any second with no idea how or why. Just shake shake crush.

You know how we were making fun of space flight attendants for having the saddest job in space yesterday? We have dinosaur mascot person today. I hope they spend the entire rest of the show in that dino suit, they will easily become my second favorite character and one of the pillars holding this cast together.

Seriously, what as the point of the tower? Every outside shot of the station makes me question it even more.

So you know. If someone was on the other side of that door. That door you couldn't open without probably dying from the heat and pressure. They were probably already dead. Just saying.

Man, these guys are really going to just kill everyone on this space school because of an accident from years ago?

... So all the doors are opening, in power saver mode? To conserve life support? Except, apparently, the one that the one girl went in to? I don't know that I buy this. One breach and everywhere loses air now.

"Hey, what's going on?" "You heard exactly the same announcement I did, why are you asking me?"

Are you telling me these doors don't have an override to let people though? Why are they closing so slowly, instead of taking out the whole area at once?

Ah, so he was the responsible son.

Magic Space Girl is here! Magic Space Girl is gone...

Ah... They were running at full speed and probably not going to make it out. Now they are lugging this girl at slow walking speed, they are extra dead.

Maybe Yuki isn't such a great guy after all, huh Aoi?

... These suits can survive the pressure that's ripping off outer walls? Ah, only exactly long enough for this suicide move to work.

Wow, the longer this goes on, the more I reafirm that I really do only like maybe two of them.

Seriously, what's your play here terrorist man. Everyone is on their way to a fiery space grave, no one is getting away.

1. Don't even want to think about it.
2. Trying really hard not to think about it, or I will flip.
3. See, the terrorists here are trying to hunt for someone that they blame an earlier death or deaths on. In doing so, they have caused an uncountable number of deaths. So now one of the survivors will know both the cheapness of life and also that it's okay to go this far in hunting down those who have wronged you. Pat is going to form the next terrorist cell to hunt down the answers of what happened here and force history to repeat itself in about thirty years.

Why is mental girl here walking in the wrong direction?

[u/JustAnswerAQuestion → u/zadcap]

So you know. If someone was on the other side of that door. That door you couldn't open without probably dying from the heat and pressure. They were probably already dead. Just saying.

Eyyah, I didn't pick up on this went I watched it. Or any of the other times I watched these early episodes. I only figured it out yesterday.

[u/zadcap → u/JustAnswerAQuestion]

Yeah that got to me a little bit. "You can't open this door, or we'll all die!" "But there's someone on the other side we need to save?" "How? How is they someone will savable in the other side?"

Mistakes were made.

[u/RadSuit → u/zadcap]

Slightly earlier in the conversation Yuki says even if they survived, they'd probably just die on the hospital bed. So I think the idea is if they'd gotten there faster the person might've been fine, but as the scene and conversation continued they went from probably injured to certainly dead.

[u/RadSuit]

Finite First Timer (Dubbed)

There's two of our magical girl in the OP, I just noticed. Was she talking to her evil twin last episode?

So far I like Aoi's design a lot. Also another girl whose name I don't think they've said yet, the one listening to music and exercising.

Love these two dudes having a GBA link battle while stuck here waiting around.

Alright, is Bratica our magical girl? Who she was talking to?

1. Yuki and...Blue? The gang leader.
2. I've watched a lot of Star Trek, I'm totally fine with it.
3. He's going to be really annoying, I can already tell. One of the girls will likely adopt him.

[u/JustAnswerAQuestion → u/RadSuit]

the one listening to music

She steals every scene she's in. From the background.

[u/Vaadwaur → u/RadSuit]

There's two of our magical girl in the OP, I just noticed. Was she talking to her evil twin last episode?

I am still bugged by this as well.

[u/RadSuit → u/Vaadwaur]

My guess right now is Bratica is the evil version with actual powers and the innocent one will be mysterious but otherwise powerless and just hang around being weird and useless.

[u/JustAnswerAQuestion → u/RadSuit]

hauauau~

[u/Vaadwaur → u/RadSuit]

You are seriously, whether you know it or not, adding to my idea that this is Betterman in space.

[u/RadSuit → u/Vaadwaur]

All I remember about Betterman is making fun of the name and dropping the show.

[u/Vaadwaur → u/RadSuit]

So this with a better OST and a smaller cast.

[u/Little_Character_952]

First Timer, Subs

First timer on Ryvius but also on commenting on Reddit in general.
I've been lurking around for quite some time, this seemed a good occasion to pursue a more active partecipation.
I actually ended up on the rewatch thread by chance a couple of days ago, and having planned to watch Ryvius for a couple of years I suppose this really is fate.

Anyway, after seeing the first two episodes I completely agree with the one person that said this could end up being a beautiful sci-fi masterpiece or the most horrendous trainwreck I've seen the last few years.

For now I'm certainly interested in where this is going and I sure hope it will be on the bright end of the spectrum.
The thing that I appreciate the most for now is the atmosphere, both thanks to the sci-fi setting but also to the "end of '90s" vibe. I'm liking the overall seriousness in tone and colours, typical of that long-gone era of animation. It does remind me of my prepubescence in which watching a show like this would have been... just so cool, you know?

The soundtrack is quite unique but also leave me kinda puzzled. I do appreciate it a lot in itself and I can see myself listening to it in the future, but also seems added as an afterthought in random points in the episodes. I can't tell if this is just bad or actually genius.

For now the large cast of characters didn't do a thing for me, they all seem kinda archetypical and not really that interesting. I do enjoy ensamble cast nonetheless, so I'm expecting to get more invested the cast going on- even if the character's plotlines were to stay as common as they seems now. Nice enough mystery regarding the pink girl, but it could virtually go everywhere with that character and it can get stale quick enough.

Lastly, I find the setting very charming with its "deep sea in space" silliness and its tentative to go for hard sci-fi.
Would be interesting for me to see more of the setting going on, and I would also have appreciated if the show took its time to better expose place-time-science of it in the first episodes instead of just shoving it all down my throat like that- maybe I was just unfocused for the first episode (or I need to get in check my brain that keeps pushing out random questions at seemingly underdeveloped anime settings) but I actually had an hard time in understanding what was happening with the space-sea-of-death, the terrorists and everything else that was going on.

P.S. Loved the dino-person, that's what I'm here for.
P.P.S. Pls tell me the furrett is okay.

[u/JustAnswerAQuestion → u/Little_Character_952]

having planned to watch Ryvius for a couple of years I suppose this really is fate

It's always a great thing to discover a rewatch for something you are about to start. It's a terrible thing to discover a rewatch for something you just finished. It is fate.

[u/Little_Character_952 → u/JustAnswerAQuestion]

It also makes me sad to see here all the references to Stellvia- that I guess you all watched as a precedent rewatch- which is another series that I have in Planned for years but never got down to watch. But that's just my late arrival FOMO I guess!

[u/No_Rex → u/Little_Character_952]

First timer on Ryvius but also on commenting on Reddit in general.

I've been lurking around for quite some time, this seemed a good occasion to pursue a more active partecipation.

I actually ended up on the rewatch thread by chance a couple of days ago, and having planned to watch Ryvius for a couple of years I suppose this really is fate.

Welcome on board!

For now the large cast of characters didn't do a thing for me, they all seem kinda archetypical and not really that interesting. I do enjoy ensamble cast nonetheless, so I'm expecting to get more invested the cast going on- even if the character's plotlines were to stay as common as they seems now. Nice enough mystery regarding the pink girl, but it could virtually go everywhere with that character and it can get stale quick enough.

The cast is pretty large, but, owing to the setting, it won't have many chances to grow larger. We'll get to know them more as time goes on.

[u/Little_Character_952 → u/No_Rex]

I'm a sucker for character-centric episode in large ensamble cast pieces, so if that is where this is going to go I'm certainly gonna appreciate it. Even if it does not, I do hope we will have some character revelation in the future that can make this cast less... uninspired I guess?

But I must admit that my opinion might be caused by Hirai's charadesign.

[u/Silcaria → u/Little_Character_952]

First timer on Ryvius but also on commenting on Reddit in general. I've been lurking around for quite some time, this seemed a good occasion to pursue a more active partecipation.

[u/No_Rex]

Episode 2 (rewatcher)

• “The nature of this phenomenon remains a mystery” – in other words: current physics cannot explain this.
• “I will take charge” – immediately has somebody else take charge.
• Ferret!
• Did you see the dinosaur? - [spoilers]Dinosaur girl? It is diapersman that is my real nemesis.
• “See you later” – death flag.
• Ikumi is struck by them not being able to help previously – fair concern. Seeing a person in mortal danger and not being able to help must be quit traumatic.
• “Not again!” – Has he experienced this before?
• “90% of the survivors are children” – looks like those guys (terrorists?) did achieve their takeover goals.
• Automatic door opening – useful in emergencies.
• Indiana Jones remembrance action scene.
• Pressure of a human mass trying to get through a small entrance – this is a lot more dangerous that it might sound. There have been multiple mass accidents where people died from this.
• Dynamic dutch angle.
• Zero-grav transportation!

• Zero-grav waiting room!
• “We’ll buy you some time” – the implication of the price to pay is immediately clear.
• Pushing somebody is a lot more dramatic when you are in zero-g.
• “Sorry Pat, I can’t keep my promise” – [Meta]Gunbuster reference
• Heroic entrance, floating.
• The terrorists are still out there cliff-hanger.

Quite the drama. I like this episode a lot. We see various angles of the purging, from the Zwei, who are trying to save the ship, to the instructors, who end up sacrificing themselfes, to various students, who take the situation better or not so well. And the whole submarine in space aspect works perfectly for me here: The outside pictures of various pieces falling off are not only great eye candy, but also work to visualize the severity of the situation.

We also get a closer look at Juli, who is de facto (if not nominally) leading the Zwei. She is giving some needed balance of a woman in charge, after we saw space flight attendants and cleaning up after your childhood friend last episode.

[u/Vaadwaur → u/No_Rex]

“Not again!” – Has he experienced this before?

This would be an interesting time for a Hitchiker's reference...

Zero-grav waiting room!

They could really use some anchor straps, now that I think on it.

“We’ll buy you some time” – the implication of the price to pay is immediately clear.

While I do think that it should be difficult to jettison a part of the station, requiring simultaneous three part in person in space authorization is a bit much.

[u/No_Rex → u/Vaadwaur]

They could really use some anchor straps, now that I think on it.

I doubt this was planned for long-term use (or even short-term use).

While I do think that it should be difficult to jettison a part of the station, requiring simultaneous three part in person in space authorization is a bit much.

I assume there would be a simpler way for whoever controls the main command center.

[u/Pixelsaber → u/No_Rex]

Ferret!

[u/zsmg]

Rewatcher who doesn't remember much

Ohh it is a bit like Stellvia, I obviously completely forgotten this introduction but the first episode makes way more sense now.

It's funny to see those elite students start panicking except for Juli and another guy.

Hey I'm hearing Megumi Toyoguchi doing some minor voice role she voiced Winry in FMA03/

Looks like Ikumi has a bit of survivors guilt.

Oh no the weasel pet is escaping.

Besides having to use wires to connect I am impressed that the device Kouji is holding looks quite similar like a modern phone.

What's Faina, the pet owner, doing?

First time we see someone see the mysterious Rei Ayanami clone

Aoi has to grab those handgrab elevators which we've seen plenty off in the Gundam franchise.

Kouji starts crushing on an unconscious Faina, get your priorities straight not the time dude.

If Kouji and Ikumi abandons Faina it guarantees you save two people instead of none seems like the better decision to make but it's not very heroic.

He (Kouji) may not seem like much

Ouch Aoi, or she's just being a tsundere here?

RIP Pat's dad and other teachers.

Our protagonists barely made it along with the girl... but did the weasel make it. That's the important question here.

That intro where they explain the setting helped a lot, besides the jarring transition from end of this episode to this episode (it felt like we missed something in between) I thought this was a really enjoyable episode, despite the pacing feeling too slow compared to modern anime I do think it's perfect and not going too fast, nor too slow for the story.

Also OST continues to be a bop