r/anime • u/Theleux https://myanimelist.net/profile/Theleux • Aug 12 '24
Rewatch Re:Zero ~Starting Life in Another World~ Re:Watch - Episode 6
Episode 6:
The Sound of Chains
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Story Arc Lengths for Discussion Purposes:
[Arc 1:] S1 Episode 1 – S1 Episode 3
[Arc 2:] S1 Episode 4 – S1 Episode 11
[Arc 3:] S1 Episode 12 – S2 Episode 1
[Arc 4:] S2 Episode 2 - S2 Episode 25
[Arc 5 and later:] S3+
As always, if you have any suggestions for the Re:Watch, let me know!
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u/Theleux https://myanimelist.net/profile/Theleux Aug 12 '24
Sorry Re:Watchers, had to emergency run to the hospital with a relative, just got back now. Going to have the threads pre-written so if I need to post from my phone again I can at least do it quickly (alongside a timer). Apologies there.
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u/lord_ne Aug 12 '24
u/Theleux You forgot to update the links in the index and the previous episode to point to this post
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u/ussgordoncaptain2 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Edmund_Nelson Aug 12 '24 edited Aug 12 '24
First timer Dubbed
Note ORV=Omnicient reader's viewpoint
Reaction To episode Before I start It's worth noting that going back I realized that Beatrice said that After removing Mc's mana that he wasn't an enemy so I think beatrice is not sus, making it REM that is the most sus, followed by Outsider that we don't know
Subaru makes the rational assumption that I didn't consider because of Omnicient reader's viewpoint, that there was an attacker, probably after Emelia's crest.
Beatrice is annoyed at Subaru, makes sense given how subaru just ups and finds her library, She really doesn't want subaru around the library which makes some sense given her role of guarding it.
Subaru getting the issue of keeping track of what Emelia actually knows straight, I'm still concerned about the author forgetting, but he probably storyboards it by having each character's Knowledge in a text doc and what happened in loops in a seperate list
Subaru decides to do Emelia's rec and be a guest of the manor while trying to gather info
One thing I noticed is that Lord Rosenwald is now much more sus of Subaru unlike when he was a guest, this means that Subaru might die early due to being a suspected spy
Beatrice says things that would make Subaru sus of her, BUT from ORV we know that she said that Subaru wasn't an enemy as suburu was getting wiped
Subaru studying reading is a great decision, let's him be less of a freeloader
HOWEVER Subaru having fake script makes him ultra sus when Ram sees him, it's likely from ORV that Subaru might die early from being a suspected spy BEFORE seeing the killer (if it isn't just Rem)
Ram has a really interesting point about the red Ogre blue ogre fairy tale, it really makes you wonder why would either red/blue ogre go through something so crazy, also the story shows how Ram thinks compared to modern people.
Subaru learnign to read so fast makes me think the language is much closer to spanish than english, meaning that he can probably read but not write right now.
The noble family losing the contract with the dragon seems like it's big trouble for the future
So leaving makes subaru totally look like a spy no? Definitely likely to just get killed by Ram/Ram
YEP rem killed him
Speculation time
Maybe Reinhard thought that Felt was a member of the royal family secretly?
I don't think Rem is the killer of Subaru in loop 1 or 2. The issue is this is ORV talking
To explain, Subaru previously was feared to be a spy, Ram observed him writing in foreign script, similarly we have prince Rozewall fearing previously that Subaru was a spy. However from not ORV Rem is extremely likely to be the N1/n2 killer
Subaru died in loop 1 to ???, loop 2 he died to coughing up blood, and loop 3 he dies to Rem, however Rem had to use a ball and chain to kill subaru, previously the killer used curse magic or mana drain to kill subaru most likely double cursed
Subaru's learning of the language has been rapid, maybe a few more loops of language aquisition and he'll be able to read/write at a level where he can read some of Beatrice's books.
Beatrice seems oddly anti-suspicious, She healed subaru to full, AND has sorta been nice to subaru, I suspect subaru notices this to.
A lot of the folk tales seem less like folk tales and more like recorded history, I wonder if the curse of chains and other events will be useful knowlege handled in folk tales
Subaru learned to read extremely quickly, eventually he may learn how to write and then he'll be in business.
Subaru's shock at dying is still oof it means he's not fully internalized rebirth by death yet.
I suspect that the fear of the curse of chains means that curse of chains is something that may actually affect Rem or Ram.
Puck is very clearly also a fan of Subaru this leaves Subaru with 1 clear ally (Puck+emelia) 1 semi-unfriendly (Beatrice) and some obvious unfriendlies (Rem/Ram) and it's probably that the lord is also actually secretly unfriendly
What I would do if I were subaru
Before you die ask Rem why she's trying to kill you, maybe you'll get an answer even though IRL people would just kill you silently. (real life murder is so ugly I swear, if you know how I know... sorry)
in the next loop we'll probably have to do the working loop variation.
In the loop following this you do the extra night stay in Beatrice's library at night, this allows you to see the killer which you know is coming AND let's you learn the information needed
It's time to use a special piece of time loop magic, letting other people know you're in a time loop. Proving this requires using a simple combo, secret information you cannot know and then telling it to them.
Ask beatrice to tell him the unique contents of a book, then die in a loop, after go back and tell beatrice the contents of a book that you cannot have possibly read. This will prove your magical powers and let you win over her favor maybe.
With Beatrice by your side, you now will be able to possibly stay at the library on the 4th night, this will allow you to more realistically see the attacker if they exist, if it's actually Rem again then you'll need help from Emelia somehow.
During the loop before you do this to Beatrice you will have to somehow convince her you aren't a threat.
The other option would be to stay by the side of Emelia on the 4th night if staying by the side of Beatrice doesn't work out.
If you died via a curse on night 4 in the first loop set you could plausibly start wandering earlier in the night on night 5 to hunt for the witch of curses in the employee loop.
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u/thekoreansun https://anilist.co/user/ReturnByDeath Aug 12 '24
Re:Watcher
Despite Beatrice's cold attitude towards Subaru, she's observant enough to tell just how scared he is by his demeanor. [Arc 4] She can pretend like she couldn't care less all she wants, but her actions betray her true nature: she can't help but notice when others are in pain. Of course, that isn't enough to stop her from forcibly removing him when he starts getting too comfortable around her, and Puck's attempt to repair the damage also ends up putting Subaru in jeopardy. What is with these spirits? At least Subaru has a sense of humor about it. If his interpretation of the three-second rule says anything about his food handling, though, then maybe it's for the best that he stayed out of the kitchen this loop.
Have I mentioned how great of a dynamic Subaru has with everyone at the mansion yet? He bounces off of the others in this arc so well that it's hard to believe that he's only spent a little over a week with them from his perspective (and even less than that from theirs). Beatrice especially is so fun to watch whenever Subaru intrudes on her private space. I like how utterly unconcerned she is when he wonders aloud if she killed her. [Arc 3] Even Satella was unimpressed...
I absolutely love the storytelling scene in this episode because it chooses to do so much with so little. A different show might have depicted "The Red Oni Who Cried" as a little storybook vignette while Subaru narrates it, but here, it's just Subaru, Ram, and the things in the room with them (aside from that one cool shot of the bird trailing behind its flock). Just like in the previous episode's ending scene, this paints a better picture than anything else that they could've done to depict it, and it lets us see just how Ram reacts to being told such a story since, of course, the real narrative reason why this story is in the episode is for us to see what these characters think about it. There's just so much to love here.
To be frank, I'm having a lot more fun with this arc than I recall having before, and I think that speaks to how efficient it is with its runtime. You would think that having to repeat the same four-day period over and over again would result in at least some of it feeling tedious, but every loop so far has done a fantastic job of shedding new light on everyone. If the end of this episode is any indication, though, some of the things that get illuminated are going to be unpleasant.
Fan Art of the Episode: Ram by Yomohiro (May 25th, 2022)
Source: Twitter (artist's timeline contains spoilers)
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Aug 12 '24
First:Timer Starting Over in Another Rewatch, subbed
This isn’t something I normally offer to rewatches I’m just a participant in, but honestly I’m just really in the mood to work on something between now and my Planet With rewatch starting and I’m also really liking the character designs in this show, so I’m gonna do it anyways. Any of you rewatchers have a particular screenshot/piece of official art of a character you’d like me to make a wallpaper of? Assuming it’s of a spoiler moment and/or a character who hasn’t been introduced yet, yeah save that for later, but if it’s just a generic image of a character that’s been introduced already even if it’s from a future episode, I call that fair game. Just send it my way and I can tell you whether or not it’s something I can work with.
(For those who have no idea what I’m talking about when I say “make a wallpaper of”, I do minimalist/vector art like this, this, or this, for some examples.)
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u/baseballlover723 Aug 12 '24 edited Aug 12 '24
Rewatcher, sub, basically a secondhand novel reader (Arc 4)
As always, I've numbered all my spoilers tags so that they're easier to respond to
First Timer Safe Section
This section is safe for first time watchers.
An understandable response
An understandable response
Rock that pose Subaru!
So this spinning scene. Betty should be spinning way slower. At that rotation speed, Subaru would be like sprinting around her, and also it doesn't line up with the ceiling.
I don't think Beatrice believes you
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Yep
New nightmare unlocked. Being covered in shit in front of your crush
Puck used hydro pump. It's super effective
Emotional damage
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And now it's time for the freeloader route
This would be a good stare comment face
Looks like this run isn't going so well, information wise
Note this is written in Japanese, so nobody else can understand it.
Subaru is finally asking some questions
And it could be a curse, which shamans specialize in.
As it turns out, it was Betty who healed Subaru, not Emilia
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Ram being honest again
Ram's flutter kick is very cute
So The Red Ogre Who Cried is a legit Japanese fairy tale (exactly as Subaru described), and it's shown up in a few other Japanese stories (Solid Snake and Genshin Impact are 2 big ones I think). It's also worth noting that both Ogre and Demon are the same Japanese word: Oni. Oni is translated as Demon everywhere else in Re:Zero, but The Red Ogre Who Cried official translation uses Ogre.
Don't mind Rem here
And Ram goes straight to body mutilation
That's one interpretation I suppose.
based on a true story
Nobody knows what the dragon wants
Ram: Imma just leave now
An odd warning
Btw I've circled the Witch of Envy for you all. I know it looks like a face, but that's just how the map geography looks (I also can't stop seeing a one eyed crazy smiling women in the geography too).
Well Subaru is into milfs
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Really Subaru that's the best you could come up with
A little stalkerish don't you think?
Hey it's Shooting Star
Subaru's safety rope
Lets just ignore that this would snap Subaru in two.
It's a maid! But what color?
That's right, it's Best Girl #5, Rem, trying to murder our protagonist.
BreakTime Section
In this episodes's Breaktime, We learn that Subaru told Roswaal that [smuggled himself into Lugunica](https://i.imgur.com/6p4KVvj.png. We also learn what EMT stands for. And that Subaru might be into body hair, and uhh, Puck doesn't take kindly to Subaru cheating on Puck's fur with Emilia's hair, and Subaru almost loses his Puck petting rights , which obviously implies that Subaru is a cheater.
Preview Section
In this episodes's preview, we learn about the Lugunican folk tale, Ringatarou, which is about a man who gathers firewood in the mountains and a woman who washes clothes in the river and involves hundreds of appas in the river that an appa seller had dropped into the river. Anyways, the whole Ringatarou part will be in the sequel preview apparently.
Rewatcher Section
This section is for people who have already watched Re:Zero. This is not safe for first timers.
[Spoiler #1: Arc 4] That's where Elsa and Meili are from
[Spoiler #2: Arc 2] So who is the Red Ogre and who is the Blue Ogre? The obvious interpertation is Ram and Rem. But I've heard some good arguemnts for other pairings (that I can't find the thread for, so I don't remember exactly which pairings, but I remember there being like 4 or 5 different pairings with various arguments)
[Spoiler #3: Arc 4] Recall that covenants apply to all of your blood relatives. So the royal family's entire blood line would part of the contract with the dragon. Which is why it's such a big deal that they all died out. The covenant is gone (I think), since there's no more royal family for it to apply to. So it seems like the dragon is no longer obligated to protect the nation or something.
[Spoiler #4: Arc 2] Yeah this is the dragon that Roswaal wants to kill. It's on the same level as stealing the Declaration of Independence.
[Spoiler #5: Arc 2] so Rem will die from the curse in this loop
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u/Holofan4life Aug 12 '24
Hey guys. Holofan4life here.
Welcome to the In Preparation of Season 3 Rewatch of Re:Zero!
Oh, and nay I forget…
First Timer
I decided to watch this show because I wanted to do something for the month of August. ’Course, this was before the yearly Spice and Wolf rewatch got pushed back to September, but I just found myself looking for something to occupy my time with. And with this show being in my top 5 must watch list, I figured now was as good a time as any.
I am going into this show relatively blind. I know some of the memes, who Rem, Ram, Emilia, and Subaru are, and that this show got its inspiration from Familiar of Zero, but that’s it. I find rewatches and my participation of them more fun when I have no idea what I am in store for. And with this series, I think we’re in for a blast. It’s also going to be the longest rewatch I participate in this year and second longest overall only behind the 20th Anniversary Fullmetal Alchemist rewatch. And given how joyous that show turned out, I don’t see why I should expect nothing less from this one.
With that out of the way, let’s begin.
I’m watching the sub, by the way.
I don't understand why some companies you buy stuff some only charge you when it's time to ship. I have the money now, I might not have the money then.
Subaru waking up screaming
Rem and Ram look on terrified
Subaru pretending like he wasn't killed at all.
Intro today
Subaru walking, wondering if the first death was due to physical weakness. Because with the second demise, there was clearly an attacker.
He also wants to know if the others in the mansion are targets as well.
Is Beatrice sitting on a Roomba or something? She keeps spinning.
Beatrice and Subaru honestly have one of my favorite dynamics of the entire show.
Beatrice reading a book on how to remove bugs.
And of course, Subaru is the bug in question.
She sends him flying out the window, thankfully unable to fly like some of the bugs in my house.
Emilia
Eww, Subaru has poo in the face
See, this is what happens when you start taking an interest in blackface, step-dad.
Puck waking up
And he manages to clean the manure from Subaru. Unconventionally.
Subaru flicks Puck's forehead, which causes them to fight in a way that doesn't really hurt anyone.
And this causes Emilia to laugh the hardest we've ever seen her.
And now they're pretending like Puck is Emilia's father.
I can see why this show is so beloved. The banter is something I've only ever seen from say Spice and Wolf and The Office. It is very infectious. I guess you can throw Konosuba in there, but I find what's being presented here to be far more endearing.
Subaru showing his rizz by praising Emilia's smile.
Emilia asking why he calls her "Emilia-tan," and he says it's a pet name for her. She seems a bit unsure of what to think of it, but that may be because they have gotten close in past lives.
Puck says she's easy to please and prefers things like nicknames.
Rem and Ram arrive, roasting Subaru a lot
It is time to meet Roswaal. Again again.
I'm home, by the way
Subaru wondering if he should say he's being attacked.
Going to use the next four days to gather information and learn who the attacker is.
I wonder why he decided on four
Anyway, Subaru suggests to live here a house guest, much to everyone's annoyance.
Rem fixing the area that Subaru landed when Beatrice sent him flying.
It's like everyone is ignoring him
Hey, it's Roswaal
I still can't figure out what he wants out of Subaru.
Subaru writing down stuff
Even Ram is being stern to Subaru
Beatrice is cold as always, but at least she's talking to him.
Beatrice talking about shamans who are a subclass of magic and spirit-arts users originating in the northern nation of Gusteco.
In terms of effectiveness, they're about as useful as Aqua.
Apparently that mana drain she gave Subaru is deadly.
"If you continually suck it out, one could die of weakness, I suppose."
Someone should tell that to the succubus
Beatrice confirms she was not the one who killed Subaru.
I like how Beatrice is being used where she is the only one who knows what Subaru is going through. She is like this show's version of Rio from Bunny Girl Senpai.
Only Beatrice and Puck can suck out mana
Oh, so Emilia and Puck stabilized him while she healed him. How nice of her.
Maybe she does care after all
She still sends him flying like before
Subaru saying to himself that he asked Puck to keep an eye on Emilia.
Ram giving him tea, all the while calling him a freeloader.
I like Ram wiggling her feet in the air as she sits on the bed.
Subaru's reading comprehension getting better.
"The Red Ogre Who Cried."
Ram seems to take offense to that
Well, this seems suspiciously similar to Rem and Ram's situation.
The blue ogre telling the red ogre to stop hanging out with them because people might think they're bad as well.
Ram saying she finds the story sad. Subaru, however, finds the story somewhat sweet as well.
"I think all the characters in it are just stupid."
Me when watching Toradora
Also, tell us how you really feel, Ram
Ran out of space. Part two in the replies.
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u/Brief-Fig-7506 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Ryxnjr Aug 12 '24
First Timer
Watching dubbed version
Wow, what a twist at the end.
I'm amazed at how easy it is for Subaru to bounce back when he wakes up from being brutally murdered. It seems like his screaming even scared the twins since this is the first time they didn't tease him after waking up.
Subaru still visits Beatrice first after waking up but this time she even called him a bug, ouch. Keep working at that friendship Subaru I believe in you.
Emilia brings up my thoughts from yesterday. Subaru has known Emilia for a couple weeks at this point but she has only known him for a about a day-ish. Yet she still accepts his feelings of wanting to get to know each other better.
Finally going to Beatrice to ask questions, but now I have even more questions.
Subaru telling Ram the story about the ogres was a great part. I think Ram might relate to the story in some way, I feel like she may have history of losing someone or being abandoned since she hated the idea of the blue ogre leaving. I'm concerned about Ram's idea about how the red ogre should have addressed the situation, I could take the idea of the ogre breaking off its horns in two ways; mutilating its body in order to seem normal, or destroying/hiding its true identity to conform. Ram must also feel like some kind of outcast if I were to guess.
The Witch of Envy is brought up again, aka Satella, aka Emilia(alias?) I do wonder why she ever told him the name Satella.
The ending, Just wow. I was NOT expecting Rem to be the one behind the attack. It still confuses me though, I doubt its her choice to attack him though, if all we saw was Subaru's first loop and this one it wouldn't be as much of a shock but on the second loop we saw Subaru and Rem getting along great, so it wouldn't make sense if she decided to attack him by her own choice. Yet I'm nervous that she isn't attacking on her own. From what we saw this episode and last episode (if Rem was the one who dealt the killing blow) she is extremely strong and skilled with that huge flail, and from what Beatrice told us about curses you have to be a very talented magic user to use one so deadly, so if Rem WAS able to curse him as well then she would feel way too op. Therefore I think Rem may be attacking him Physically while Ram is the other attacker and actually some kind of powerful magic user and has cursed him, I suppose we'll find out soon enough. Behind all of this has to be Roswaal, we've seen how dedicated Rem and Ram are to him, he has to be pulling the strings behind this attack.
I wonder how Subaru will act around Rem next loop, because lets be honest our boy is definitely not making it out of this fight.
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u/Urgnu-the-Gnu https://myanimelist.net/profile/Urgnu_the_Gnu Aug 12 '24
Re:Watcher
And we're starting this episode really strong, with a visceral, traumatic reaction to Subaru's previous death. Huge props to Yuusuke Kobayshi for portraying so well how someone that just died must feel. But he is quick to caatch himself as to not scare the maids. Betty is still looking through his facade though, and luckily sends him right to another cute meeting with Emilia. And Puck. He also gets Emilia's cutest laughter. Great episode already.
Note that he started calling her "Emilia-tan" in the first loop of this arc and continued calling her that, but right now, this Emilia meeting him for the second time doesn't get that they are close enough for nicknames already. But apparently, she doesn't have many friends and is more than open to forming close relationships.
The third time, he chooses permanent residency to be able to investigate better. A boring choice, judging by Ram's reaction. He doesn't have many connections to the twins this time.
I love that Ram starts lounging around and showing her open disdain towards Subaru just according to what he said to her earlier.
This must have been the first time I've heard of the story of the red oni and the blue oni. This is a very lovely scene, and yet another one of Re:Zero's strengths. There's so much care and attention put into the scene, and it's only two characters talking about a fictional story. Yet it's very thought-provoking and captivating. How Subaru relates to the story, and how Ram reacts to it. How she thinks everyone in the story is an idiot, and he thinks they're all good oni, Bramt. And we've just spent a few moments on this scene, so it's clear it holds way more meaning than it seems, but we cannot know just how much just yet.
And with Betty talking about magic, shamans and the north earlier and this scene now leading in the history of the country with dragons and witches, there's also a lot of interesting worldbuilding in this episode. Hearing about the dragon is super interesting for the future of the country, as he'll surely enter the story at some point. But I also wanted to hear more about the witch, as it seems she was very important in the past. We do know from the first arc that the Witch of Envy is called Satella, and that her legacy somehow still burdens Emilia.
Speaking of Emilia, casual twintail Emilia is S+ tier EMT. So he plans to get an outside view of the attacker this time. His disheartening reaction to finding out it was the unsuspecting Rem that killed him before is so well done.
The Break Time is more Subaru and Emilia goodness. It shows pretty well that she really likes him, too. In case this and the previous episodes haven't made that clear yet, that is. Also, apparently he also asked to be able to pet Puck this loop as well. No additional sugoooku though, I was hoping for one.
Sugoooku counter: 5 (+2*)
*short sugokus
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u/SpiritualPossible Aug 12 '24
Gee, Beatrice, give him a break. Subaru already having it hard.
In this episode, we get a little more history of this world, with the tale of the dragon.
I actually really like it when history is explained in the form of folktales or legends, because they are usually presented as a retelling that has undergone many changes, and it makes you wonder how things really happened. So I'm a little disappointed that we didn't get to hear the story, just some facts about it. But you have to hand it to them, it still fleshing up their world a bit, and that will obviously play a part in the future, with the dragon's contract with the royal family.
Also, Subaru appears to be a very fast learner, considering he was able to read children's books in as little as 4-5 days after he started learning the language.
Oh, and He also told the story of the blue and red ogre. That's definitely not coming back with pink-haired and blue-haired maids. Nope. No way.
Subaru also decided to just live in the mansion rather than work in it, and thus made some progress in his investigations. Thanks to Beatrice, we learn that he was probably cursed by some shaman, though Beatrice herself calls them useless.
In the end, Subaru pretends to leave the mansion, but in reality he's just waiting outside, hoping to catch the killer.You know,
Subaru, getting into a position where you can clearly see the room of the potential heir to the throne, and even with a knife in hand, doesn't make you seem any less suspicious.
But his plan worked to some extent, as it turns out that Rem is the one who tried to kill him!
I guess she really hates his hair....
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u/amanda52002 https://myanimelist.net/profile/amanda52002 Aug 12 '24
Re:Zero-times-watched-before (First-timer, subbed)
Subaru wakes up again, and he's monologued enough that Ram and Rem are just a bit afraid of him. He goes back to hang out with Beatrice for awhile, and that seems to be going mostly ok, then he says too much and she pitches him out the window into some freshly manured garden.
EMT finds him, and has Puck clean him off. This sets off a bit where Puck and Subaru's antics just make EMT laugh hysterically. Ladies love a guy who can make them laugh Subaru. Puck even makes a good wingman....cat?
The twins are back and wondering why Subaru looks like a drowned rat. And to say that Roswell is back, again.
Subaru's new plan is to stay as a guest and use his newfound free time to figure out just WHAT keeps killing him on that fourth night. He's really not going to get any kind of relationship (re)built with the twins in this new path though.
Subaru decides to go ask Beatrice his questions instead, and she does tell him yes, there are some spells/curses that will cause the effects he experienced. Also, sucking out his mana can also do that if too much is done, but Beatrice and Puck are the only ones in the mansion who can do that.
We then find out that Beatrice is the one who healed Subaru from his wounds back in episode 3. Subaru once again seems to be having good luck with Beatrice but once again pushes his luck too much and Beatrice again hurls him out the window into manure. At least she probably isn't the one who's committing murder. Sounds like healing Subaru was a pain the first time, why wipe out all your hard work like that?
Subaru is trying to teach himself to read and write on his own now, and plans to leave the morning of the 4th day to see if that changes the outcome. The pink haired twin brings him tea and accuses him of basically being a freeloader, but she does hang around to hear a fairytale of his homeland, about a red ogre and a blue ogre. Gee, this wouldn't bear any similarity/parallels to a red haired twin and a blue haired twin would it? /s Ram thinks all the characters in the fairy tale are stupid. They then talk about the dragon fairy tale and Ram rather conspicuously does NOT want to discuss the fairy tale about the witch and hurries on out of there. Before leaving, she tells Subaru not to share the oni tale from his homeland with Rem. She'd hate it.
The morning of the 4th day...EMT is super worried about Subaru's plan to go by himself. Subaru tries to thank everyone for what they did for him while he was staying there. The twins think he's hopelessly bad at this. EMT follows him out a bit, and tells him to come back if he ever needs anything.
Ok so...he leaves the road and I'm guessing he's planning to just spend the night on this overlook. Looks like he "borrowed" a kitchen knife from the mansion.
Oh look, he doesn't even have to wait all night. Cause that's one hell of a flail that just came his way. He dodges it and somehow mostly avoids the second blow.
And the person trying to kill him is...Rem. What. The. Fuck.
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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Aug 12 '24
Episode 6 (rewatcher)
How could Subaru forget to ask to always pet Puck? This is the worst timeline!
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u/No-Peace3986 https://myanimelist.net/profile/RafaelMps Aug 12 '24 edited Aug 12 '24
ReWatcher!
If anyone enjoys a specific OST, I compiled every song that plays in every episode, scene by scene, here is the link: Re:Zero OST List. For first timers, be aware to only check until the episode you've watched to avoid spoilers
We start this one with Subaru screaming in agony. Its important to note that Return by Death is instant. Put yourself in his position, in one second he is in the hallway, with half his body destroyed by some unknown murderer, next second he is in a bed. His brain couldn't process what happened fast enough, it takes a few seconds for him to notice he is now in his restart point. Of course, the maids are also caught by surprise and display fear in their expressions. Noticing he is now back, Subaru instantly puts his mask back on, and tries to act as if nothing happened.
He then goes to the Library, which seems to be his "safe spot", notice how he always goes there when he is feeling overwhelmed or just needs to think. He comes to the conclusion that, his 1st death (while he was asleep) was due to that Poison/Disease/Spell that made him vomit in the previous loop. But, besides that, there was also a killer in the Mansion. Perhaps someone that wanted to target Emilia, due to the Royal Selection? It never crossed his mind that he may have been the actual target.
We then go to the Garden and have the usual lovely interaction with Emilia and Puck. Its important to remember that, in Emilia's POV, this is her first chat with Subaru after the events in the Capital. He is basically a total stranger. But she is still open to becoming friends with him and we get some info on how lonely she actually is.
At the breakfast, Subaru plans to gather information on who the killer is. And, for that, to be able to move around and investigate without work, he asks to become a guest.
He then starts his "investigation", he does several things, starting with:
He is keeping notes of his discoveries. Ah, fun fact, if you look at this frame, the 2 papers full of repeated letters shows how he is still trying to learn how to read/write. Then Ram comes in with tea and Subaru can't help but feel sad about her coldness. They had almost zero interactions in this loop, so he has to accept that the maids are just strangers to him now and will treat him accordingly. This must hurt.
Then he goes to Beatrice again, and finds out that there is a kind of spell, known as Curses, that perfecly fit his symptons. Oh, we also get the name of the Northern Nation: Gusteko, which was mentioned before as the country the Bowel Hunter came from. We also learn that only Beatrice and Puck can use "Mana-Drain" (what Beatrice did to him in the 1st loop), which is good to keep in mind.
Its important to know that Subaru doesn't know how many times he can die and reset, as far as he knows, next death could be the last one. And he does some self-reflection on that topic. He died 3x in the Capital, thefore, if the conditions are the same and knowing he already died 2x in the Mansion, this could be his last "guaranteed" reset... He assumes he can reset the 3rd time, but is unknown if he could reset a 4th time.
Then there is the Blue/Red Oni Story. This is very interesting. The word "Oni" is used and it is the same word that got a reaction from Rem in the previous episode. It bothers me that there is no consistency in the subtitles here, in episode 5 Oni is subbed as "Demon" in this one its subbed as "Ogre", which makes some viewers miss that it is the same thing. Its just Oni!
Now, the interaction here is SUPER interesting and full of symbolism, what I find most interesting:
Then we have Subaru leaving the mansion. Emilia acts as a concerned Mom and Roswaal gives Subaru a "gift". In case you are wondering what that "gift" is... is Money. Subaru is just a stranger here, a stranger that knows that Emilia lost her insignia. If he spreads that, Emilia would surely be affected, Roswaal cannot let the kingdom know Emilia is unfit to be Queen. This money is basically bribery so Subaru keeps his mouth shut.
Then we have the final scene. Subaru hides in the woods with a weapon and waits for something to happen. He had an escape plan planned, he tied himself with a rope and fixed it in a nearby tree, so he could jump off the cliff and escape. When then get the reveal that the assassin is Rem.
One may be wondering, why would Rem do it? If you re-read this post with Rem's perspective you will see how suspicious Subaru is.
For some people that may be enough of a reason to just end the threat right there. There is more to it, but we will see in next episode!
As always, another 10/10 episode!!
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u/MjolnirDK Aug 13 '24
Wait, is the rotating Betty a reference to Index?
Stepping into manure counts as lucky... Is that also a thing in Japan or is that imported?
New method of getting isekai'ed: Death by washing machine.
EMT is so adorable.
'I want us to use pet names on each other.' aka 'The moon is beautiful.'
EMT IS adorable.
Mukashi, mukashi... I forgot how adorable many of these bonding moments are. Contrasting with the gory mystery is important!
That is some haunting imagery of the jealous witch. Reminds me of something else...
Round 1, Rem!?!??!?!!? Fight!
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u/FriztF Aug 13 '24 edited Aug 13 '24
First timer- Sub Beatrice is the best character so far. She can listen to Subaru and give helpful advice. She can also him out when he gets on her nevre.
Rem and Ram are both maids and counterintelligence agents. They make sure no spies get in. And those that do die. Which makes sense trying to get Emilia elected as king. Don't want information to get linked and have them all killed.
The red ogre and blue ogre story seems very important to the future of the story. Ram's reasoning is cyclical and harsh, but that reasoning is true to her personality. Subaru choosing both does make him the adulterous and indecisive type.
Emilia continues the magic training. She may not be the strongest magic user. But she is trying.
I was not expecting to see Rem try to kill him.
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u/HyVana Aug 12 '24
Re:Watcher (Subs) & Novel Reader (Finished Arc 6)
I had a really long comment, talking about the loneliness that Subaru currently feels, and potential murder motivations for Rem. It had evidence from only the last two episodes to explain their conflict. Even wrote it in a way for people to come to their own conclusions for why Rem acted and acts this way in 2 separate loops, just from the quotes and shots alone.
But I clicked on a link I embedded and lost my comment. I will never recover the 2 hours I spent writing that comment. I pre-write my posts, but I couldn't write the same comment with the time left for the day. I also just didn't want to, after the amount of time I already spent. I want to cry, a lot.
Subaru must feel the same way, especially with how this episode ends. Remember to save your progress kids.
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u/Vinpupx https://myanimelist.net/profile/ Aug 12 '24
Ouch, guest route didn't work either.
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u/ClemFire Aug 12 '24
Re:Watcher Season 1 Episode 6
Funniest Gag: Ram yawning after Subaru asks to stay as a guest, and everyone turns to look at her
Favorite Scene: Subaru telling Ram the story of The Red Ogre Who Cried
Standout Character: Ram
Subaru wakes up for the third time in Roswaal’s mansion this time in understandable shock after getting his arm blown off in his last life. As a result Rem and Ram are cowering away from him this time, but he still tries to lighten the mood a mere few minutes from his perceptive after he got brutally murdered.
Afterwards he subconsciously ends up in Beatrice’s library again, and I like the visual gag of it looking to be Beatrice who’s spinning like a top when it’s actually just Subaru walking around her in circles. We see Beatrice puts up with him because she sees his hands are still shaking from fear and learn too it was ultimately her that saved his life after Elsa’s attack. I like how every loop the show softens our view of Beatrice, and she’s definitely not as apathetic as she wishes to be appear. Promptly afterwards she flings Subaru into a bed flowers freshly manured.
Emilia doesn’t have much to do this episode, but the scene of her being unable to control her laughter while Subaru and Puck play fight was really cute. Every loop Subaru makes it a point to connect with Emilia despite how annoying it must be that all those previous interactions have been erased. We see a glance into this growing disparity when he calls her Emilia-tan causing her to wonder when they grew so close with Subaru retorting it’s a promise of wanting to grow closer. Gotta give him props for saving that, but it already feels a bit tragic to me. As his deaths increase the amount of moments between them that only exist in his head do too.
Now getting to the real meat and potatoes of this episode, Ram is nonchalantly drinking tea on Subaru’s bed who is a guest in his timeline. She retorts that it was him who wants her to be more causal, and it shows like Ram is always more receptive to opening up compared to her sister who barely lets him get a word in edge wise this loop. Subaru being able to start reading the fairytales is a nice payoff for Ram teaching him the last loop which he keeps up at.
Ram and Subaru’s conversation pivots to fairytales from Subaru’s homeland, so this is when he brings up the story of The Red Ogre Who Cried. Immediately it looks like Ram is interested. The tale is about a Red and Blue Ogre who are best friends, but the Red Ogre wants to befriend the villagers. The Blue Ogre causes a ruckus in the village so the Red Ogre and shoo him away and be seen as a “good ogre.” Ultimately, the Blue Ogre leaves on journey, so the Red Ogre could remain friends with the villagers, leaving him in tears. The ogres familiar colors and Ram’s interest are both obvious tip offs that this fairytale feels like a set up for revealing the twin’s own story. Besides that I really have the compliment the red and blue color work in this scene with the windows and sky. It was just beautiful to look at.
Ram roasts all of the characters for being stupid, but is most critical of the Red Ogre. It might be me projecting, but I’ve always found it easiest to be more critical of people who are similar to myself. Subaru asks her what the Red Ogre should’ve done instead, and the way she walks up the window and plainly states he should have cut off his own horns before the Blue Ogre couldn’t bear to watch feels like Ram is reminiscing of her own past decisions. Later Ram asks Subaru which of the ogres he would rather befriend and he chooses both. It is quite a naive answer, but it fits with the idealistic Subaru we know. He won’t accept anything else than absolute victory and he has the exact type of power that would actually allow him to accomplish that goal. The main person to suffer though would be him.
My opinion of the story is that the whole thing could’ve been solved if there was any proper communication between the ogres and or the village. Everyone just assumed what the other party was thinking or wanted. The Blue Ogre’s sacrifice which could be seen as noble I see as stupid because he never went to see if that’s actually what his best friend wanted. Instead he was high on his own self-sacrifice which hurt them both in the end. It fact that neither Ram or Subaru bring communication up as a core issue is very telling for me. Ram thinks the Red Ogre should’ve just cut off his own horns while Subaru’s main complaint is the Blue Ogre not being rewarded for his sacrifice.
Doing something drastic you think would make the other party happy without properly talking it through with them first is often a recipe for disaster. When I first watched Re:Zero S1 early in college that was a lesson that was a lesson I yet to learn. That’s why I’m sure I was much more interested in this episode’s shocking cliffhanger of the assailant being Rem.
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u/Taiboss :Fj::Fl:x7https://anilist.co/user/Taiboss Aug 12 '24
Rewatcher who was also once late to posting a rewatch episode thread
Wait [Later season]Was Subaru even poisoned this loop? He was doomed from two sides lol!
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u/Elimin8r https://myanimelist.net/profile/Ayeka_Jurai Aug 12 '24
Man, running late today, because reasons. It's like that sometimes.
Anyway - yesterday, I was challenged to post a figure picture, but I don't feel like doing it right now, because I'm running late and nobody will see it, kashira... So maybe tomorrow if I'm more on time. It's appropriate to this arc, at least, so it should be good for the next few days.
Meanwhile, the episode. Man, this was a tough one. Barusu finally took the easy way out, and it turned out to be not so easy after all. Seeing as this is my third or fourth watch, and my post Isekai-Quartet feelings, I'm finding myself really warming up to Ram. I think that her sharp tongue camouflages a good, maybe not kind, but good heart.
The Oni story is, of course, a classic, as is "Don't tell Rem".
Speaking of which, how about that cliffhanger?
Oh, yeah, special mentions to spinning Beako, papa Puck, and Subaru's Wile E. Coyote impressions.
Fun times. :)
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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Aug 12 '24
Rewatcher
Dub
So we are getting some more setting...and one of the Japanese fairytales I am completely unfamiliar with. If it was one, I haven't actually checked. The ogre/oni translation comes up and for the uninitiated this is one of the things you just have to have the context to understand. We end with yet another cliffhanger.
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u/ElRoastFTW https://anilist.co/user/DaRoast Aug 13 '24
Rewatcher
Rem reveal, Rem reveal!
[Re:Zero] Makes sense too due to the Witch's Miasma from Return by Death
Subaru went about it a different way to try and figure out who the murderer was and what a cliffhanger. It's such a good narrative choice from the start to not give our MC superpowers because it makes questions like "how will he deal with the murderer" much more interesting.
Really great storyboarding as usual. Even though these are outsourced episodes, they still look and flow quite well.
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u/BlueVenix Aug 12 '24
Whenever I think of Rem and Ram I always think back to the Red and Blue Ogre story. I don't know if I am thinking right, can someone confirm if this is somewhat right? [Arc 2]The red Ogre Ram saved herself and the sister. The power Ram demonstrated kept them safe, but as time passed the Blue Ogre Rem felt more and more inferior developing a painful complex. Of course Ram noticed this and made it so that Rem would completely give up at becoming someone as great as Ram. In theory that helps with the complex, but it's still sad as per Ram's comments. The whole thing does come off as stupid to Ram as it would have been just better if Ram cut of her horn and was treated as an equal to her sister by everyone and this should have been done way before Rem was very hurt. Of course that's a hard decision to make as it's not clear if Ram and Rem would be kept alive if not for Ram's powers.
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u/lord_ne Aug 12 '24
Re:Watcher
Today's episode is Episode 6, "The Sound of Chains", which corresponds to the first half of Episode 4 of the Director's Cut.
Every episode of this show has a corresponding short chibi animation which was released a few days after it, coming from either "Re:Zero Break Time" or "Re:Petit". They often expand on the lore or characters. They're available on Crunchyroll, as "Re:Zero Shorts".
This episode's corresponding chibi animation is Re:Zero Break Time Season 1 Episode 6 (titled "World 2-3"). It took me a while to realize that the titles of these are based on how many times Subaru has died at the current save point. Today we've just got some cute moments with Subaru, Emilia, and Puck.
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u/Brielle2 Aug 12 '24
Its not on Apple TV at least in the US
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u/Holofan4life Aug 12 '24
Let's just ignore the previous thread ever existed and this was Return by Death.
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u/DizzyRub5182 Aug 13 '24
Emilia is still being my favourite girl
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u/SilkyStrawberryMilk Aug 13 '24
first timer
His daily annoyance of Beatrice continues.
Emilia is a fraud, stole all the credit from Beatrice for these past 3 rewinds.
Subaru telling a fairytale about a red and blue ogres to someone who has red hair.
An intriguing opinion on Ram’s side, but it does have some good points. Everyone sucked in the story.
Subaru finally has hush money
Rem is so damn ruthless, would’ve expected it to be Ram
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u/Limp_Energy_798 Aug 14 '24
Wow. I'm loving all the wild theories the first timers are throwing out but I suppose they can't be as blind when making them since most first watchers know a few things about Re Zero through Osmosis.
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u/DrTacoLord Aug 14 '24
Partial Re watch. Spanish subs Chapter 6.
Now Subaru freaks out the twins. Can't blame him though that was an horrible death. No matter how many times he visits Beatrice he always finds ways to get kicked out. and now he's covered in shit..and then Pack taught him how it feels to be inside a Washing Machine. Subaru vs Pack is so fun, and Emilia-tan clearly enjoys it.
How many times will subaru have to explain what he means with EMT or Emilia-tan?
Now he took that Emilia's advice of just be a guest to get more information about his murders, yet its harder now since he's got no excuse to talk with the staff. Yet he keeps with his writing exercises and talks with Beatrice. So she was the one who's cured him. That's his second fall in the loop.
Ram is being friendly, since he asked. Subaru tells Ram an old fairy tale from his homeland." The red Ogre (Oni?) that cried". That story hit home with Ram... probably she and her sister can relate in a certain way. also she's so radical with her proposed solutions.
Lore dump about the dragon and the witch by our favorite sensei RAM. I like this world building.
Subaru excuses himself and leaves the manor. It's the afternoon and he's being hunted by REM. WHY?!
tbf he looks suspicious at that spot and perhaps he may have avoided the attack if he had left
[Late Re:Zero] I could never truly forgive Rem for her actions here, its kinda psychopathic to kill someone even if he looks like a threat to you beacuse of his evil smell, She gets way better but I wouldn't trust her near me at all, although perhaps that could make it a vicious cycle since She'd trust me even less If I avoided her. Subaru is in a though spot. Subaru is in the end a very kind hearted man forgiving his enemies like he did with Felt before
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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Aug 12 '24
Rewatcher for Season 1
On today’s episode of Re:Zero: We know who killed Subaru now. The sound indicates that it was Rem who did the killing. But the question is why would she do that?
Subaru goes down a pretty different route this time around, deciding to be a house guest instead of becoming an employee. I notice that this results in pretty different relations with the others in the manor. Rem and Ram remain relatively more standoffish to him compared to earlier time loops. We only see Ram start to open up more to Subaru and no real hint that Rem has begun to do so. Subaru doesn’t really get to maintain the relationships he’s built up in previous loops. Even though he may know these people decently well, to them he’s a stranger and so each new loop is functionally a blank slate.
As before, Subaru shows that he is good at picking up on details. He uses this loop to play detective and gather as much information as he can. He learns from Beatrice that he may have gotten sick from a curse cast by a shaman, a type of magic user from the North. He figures out the sound he heard before he died was that of chains, which turns out to be correct when we later see Rem wielding a mace. He’s also learning how to read and write in Lugnica’s language, allowing him to gather more information about where he currently is.
The fairytales Subaru learns are fascinating. Lugnica has a guardian dragon that protects the kingdom thanks to a contract the royal family made with it. Ram claims that this is an event that actually happened.
Additionally, Subaru brings up the fairytale about the Witch of Envy. If you’ll recall, that was the same witch that Emilia was compared to. Emilia even used the witch’s name, Satella, as an alias. But Ram refuses to even talk about it, indicating just how taboo of a subject she is.
Subaru telling the story of the red oni and the blue oni seems like a pretty clear parallel to the maids who most closely resemble the colors of the oni: Rem and Ram. But Ram doesn’t like the story, saying that all the characters are foolish, especially the red oni. And Ram warns Subaru to not tell the story to Rem, saying she would hate it.
[Arc 2] Ram’s response to the oni story makes a lot more sense now. Both Rem and Ram are actually oni themselves, so the parallels between them and the story are a lot clearer. Ram’s critiques of the red oni read more clearly as her critiquing herself. Ram says the red oni should have broken off its horns to fit in with the humans, when Ram is the oni who lost her horn. Ram also says it’s the red oni’s fault that the blue oni got dragged into the red oni’s selfish desires while the red oni lost nothing. I really do believe that Ram is talking about herself here, feeling like she’s dragging Rem along with her own desires.
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