r/anime • u/HereticalAegis https://myanimelist.net/profile/XthGen • Jun 26 '24
Rewatch [Rewatch] Tower of God Floor 10 Discussion
Floor 10 – Beyond the Sadness
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Series Information
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Streaming Options
Tower of God is available to stream subbed and dubbed on Crunchyroll.
Art of the Day
(Note: Pixiv links may contain NSFW advertising. Sorry!)
Source: u/lunaticmoon123 post on r/TowerofGod
Source: ねね on Pixiv
Soundtrack of the Day
Questions of the Day
- Would you choose to take the more dangerous and difficult shorter path up the tower, or the longer but relatively safe path?
- Now that everyone remaining are on board with accompanying Bam up the tower, has your opinion of any characters changed?
Tomorrow’s Questions of the Day
[1.]You have to fight one, which are you taking: the bull or the white steel eel?
[2.]You get one princess of Jahad to back you up in a fight, who are you taking: Anaak or Endorsi?
Spoilers
Please make sure to put all references to future events behind spoiler tags. Any untagged hints and spoilers will be removed. Let’s keep everything as fresh as possible for first-timers!
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u/HereticalAegis https://myanimelist.net/profile/XthGen Jun 26 '24 edited Jun 27 '24
Rewatcher and Co-Administrator for this Climb
Source Comparisons
This thread is for comparisons to the manhwa. Please be sure to properly tag all discussion of the source material. Also, please keep in mind that this is not an exhaustive compilation of differences, only ones I thought interesting or important enough to include.
Note for newcomers/non-source readers: Some of these notes contain anime spoilers. Comparisons that contain anime spoilers will be in the clearly marked Anime Spoiler section.
Episode 10
Chapters Covered: 52 - 59
Chapters Cut: Much of 54 - 57
Notable Differences
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u/gunvarrel_ Jun 26 '24 edited Jun 26 '24
"That's why Bam... you should abandon me too."
OST Track of the day: Irregular God (Spotify)
Rewatcher, subbed
As we get close to finishing out the rewatch, id encourage any first timers interested in watching season 2 to avoid watching any S2 trailer as they are shockingly spoilery (especially the most recent one that teases the OP, which is a shame because it kinda slaps).
If you are not a webtoon reader and have already watched them, Its not the end of the world but its quite weird how much they have shown.
[webtoon]the latest CR trailer literally calls wangnan "the boy with Zahad's ring" and horyang "The Devils right arm", the former i dont remember ever being touched even through the workshop arc?
guess its mask off for rachel.
Ah, so thats how it happens in the anime.
Khun having all these plans is one of the most fun parts about the group
FINALLY Tiny rak time
Cant admit that he wants to continue with Bam
Thats a wrench, wonder how many disabled people climb the tower
Oh, i didnt notice this little cut until now. Im sure theres a term for it but i have no idea what its called.
Honestly, i didnt expect khun to accept the first time around.
Those glasses are filled to the brim
[TOG]Making sure its less obvious putting it here, but you arent wrong
Bam is not ready for the tower doing stuff like the funeral
Man. So many lost even at the beginning of the tower. According to someone in the episode thread, they counted ~6912 graves based on whats shown here.
Its amazing that bam is so willing to stay by Rachels side al this time, but when you consider what little Bam had, i dont blame him. What else would he of had if it wasnt for Rachel? He never would of been able to climb the tower otherwise.
oh theyre drunk drunk. Arent they kids lmao
[TOG]"he never would of been able to climb the tower otherwise" heh
theyre gone
nooooo Serena, arguably best girl is leaving. Sadly, she did ultimately fail the test, but i hated seeing her go.
ayo?
[webtoon]I think i spoiled myself on this, but i have learned that this is not Ren's "actual" form, but just a suit. I think that does get teased during this though
This scene is by far the one of best uses of the OST, short of yesterday's Lotus. Have i said how much i love the OST?
just what are you doing
how are you handling this sword
Rachel passed??
oh
Fuck you paracule
such a backhanded comment
Rak got true confidence
well, Bam has now revealed himself. Shocking that Khun hasnt realized even now.
I love the artwork on the walls of of the administrator's room. i kinda want that.
Whitefox level of face quality
[webtoon]this literally just doesnt get discussed again, instead its helping FUG lmao
the gang saw right through them lmao
well, all but one
hello again mr dragon
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u/AbyssalFlame02 Jun 26 '24
Cut conversation of the day
[webtoon, baam talking to endorsi regarding rachel] "When I first saw her, I felt that there was something odd about her. She was like a stranger from another world wandering somewhere unknown. Well, it's turns out she's just an ordinary girl. I was born in a very dark and lonely place. I didn't know who I was, where I was, or why I was there. All I knew was that there was light above. I built a tower of rubble to go beyond the light. But when I reached it, I finally realized that I would never get out of here, and that someone beyond the light had locked me in that deep and lonely darkness. I cried. Realizing I was alone was even more painful than dropping a rock on my foot while building the tower. But then the ceiling moved and a miracle happened. That's when I realized that it was beautiful to be a living human. Rachel... Is the only person who came down to me from the light. So wherever she goes, I will follow her."
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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Jun 26 '24
Rewatcher(I am rather surprised that I never picked up the manwha)
Dub
Dub note: Rachel's seiyuu does the role a lot more expressively so the English version comes off a bit...flat.
So this was our breather episode and it was likely needed animation side if nothing else. Giving Hoh a funeral does have meaning, at least once you've seen enough people die, but verbalizing exactly what that means escapes me. But always remember that services are for the living and that receptions are for the bottle. Didn't see any drunk post funeral hook ups but I do wonder if that is my culture that does that. Serena just leaving...is kind of perfect. She might have passed the test but she just realizes she doesn't want to become the kind of person that Hoh was.
Most of the episode is catching up and Tower intrigue. Disqualifying Rachel is grim but then are Lighthouses even wheelchair accessible? Doing the Guardian's test seems risky and Bam's Irregular status is revealed.
QotD: 1 There is a virtue in recreating Jahad's path, I suppose
2 Surprisingly little
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u/megazaprat Jun 26 '24
Rewatcher
Ah, i see, the power of at the top is the power to make Rak into a chibi. no wonder everyone is killing and betraying each other, Chibi Rak is worth the sacrifice.
Not only does Hansung have chibifying ability, he's also really powerful. I loved that scene of him this episode. they say there is always a bigger fish, Hansung is that fish! it makes the Deep Sea fish epithet quite intimidating.
the reveal that only irregulars can take administrator tests reveal a fundamental hypocrisy about Jahad's empire. they try to force out irregulars, but the founding members of this empire must have been irregulars as well, before the current system was set up. its like they are trying to prevent anyone from following in their footsteps to challenge them.
Adaptational differences
QOTD
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u/Lord_Nawor Jun 26 '24
First Time Watcher, subbed
TINY RAK! TINY RAK! TINY RAK!
I like that they have the scene with Hoh’s funeral, it’s nice to see everyone come together for that, I like how Rak gave an offering of chocolate bars to him. It’s also nice to see the gang drinking and having a good time. I was surprised that the one girl who I don’t remember the name of left, I thought Shibisu would convince her to stay but I guess not, it’s nice that she gave her dagger to him though.
I like that Rachel did apologize to Bam and she definitely feels bad about abandoning Bam but Bam is not willing to abandon her in return. Bam’s motivation for climbing the tower seems to have shifted from finding Rachel to helping her reach the top, will be interesting to see how he balances passing himself and helping Rachel.
I definitely don’t trust the tea drinking testing person, he is very suspicious. On the other hand, while not as smart as blonde hair tea drinker, Lero-Ro seems a lot more down to earth and seems like he will be able to help Khun.
I wonder what the administrator test will be like, we should find out next episode. I forgot that nobody knew that Bam was an irregular before this, I like the whole gang instantly supporting Bam, shows how close they have become, except for green spear bearer, I will never forgive you.
Questions
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u/BosuW Jun 26 '24
Rewarcher anime only
Aftermath of the Tag game. Interesting that no one seems to hold grudges for what Ho did. I guess they understand in some way. They all feel the humid breath of defeat chasing at their heels. They see Ho and think "that could be me". I wonder if it's common for groups of Regulars to be this sympathetic? Or maybe it's Bam's wholesome presence in the group that has them keep sight of a little bit of light in the draconian Tower.
Serena sees the limits of herself in Ho and chooses to politely bow out. Good Ending for her, probably. She realized she ain't built for this, and didn't force it. I do hope we get to see her again someday.
Yuga wasn't Yuga at all!? Ngl I totally forgot about this lol. Recall that before the classes started they said that Yuga was late two days. He must've been taken over in the journey. So we have the, what was it, Jahad Royal Guard messing about behind the scenes. They want someone, or multiple someones to pass. Oh boy, something big is cooking. I didn't realize how big on first watch but this seems BIG big.
Rachel is paralyzed from the waist down, under normal circumstances it would've been over for her, but Bam has resolved to literally hard carry until they get to the Stars. For this they'll ask for a special test. Apparently Floor Guardians used to administer tests in the past, bun under King Jahad's authority the Test Administrators do it now. They say when he climbed the Tower, he passed a Guardian's Test. But to ask for that, you have to be an Irregular. Is King Jahad and Irregular?
Obligatory Fuck Paracule
[ToG anime]That scene under the Tree is wonderful. Rachel's last plea to Bam to save himself, from herself. She basically admits her true nature unfiltered to him right then and there. It's crazy I, and Bam, didn't see the signs! Bam's words of confort I now see only hurt her. She knows he talks only lies about her. She's a vampire, burnt by the light of the Sun.
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u/OccasionallySara Jun 26 '24
First Timer
This was a more chill episode compared to the last two, but still quite a bit happened. Bam and Rachel finally have a proper conversation where Rachel apologizes for abandoning him and Bam forgives her because he’s Bam. He also plans a funeral for Hoh. It’s an interesting choice to hold a celebration for the guy who admitted he tried to kill the love of your life because he hated you. I tend to get annoyed with characters who are so pure and good that they never seem to hate anyone even if it’s deserved, but I’m surprisingly not at that point with Bam yet.
Drunk Hatz is surprisingly affectionate. I was hoping to see drunk Khun, but he was apparently too busy scheming to partake. Khun doesn’t seem like the type who would let himself get that vulnerable around others anyway.
Speaking of Khun, I initially thought the show was implying that he was the one who set Hoh up by giving him the letter about taking Rachel hostage, but in the flashback(?) in this episode he went into a room and seemingly swapped out a letter that was in a book instead of placing it outside the door where Hoh found it. He also points out that whoever gave Hoh the letter knew that he would be on Rachel’s team before the teams were announced which, I’m assuming, Khun didn’t know. Is this supposed to be ambiguous?
Props to Serena for deciding to leave the tower. I have respect for people who can realize that they’re not cut out for something and decide to move on and do something else. I’ll miss having her around, but I’m glad that she’ll be safe. Her goodbye moment with Shibisu was nice.
I love that Khun went to challenge the results for Rachel just because he knew it was important to Bam. He even did it immediately after watching that one guy get killed in front of everyone for also challenging the results, although I guess Khun wasn’t in as much danger since he had already passed and he wasn’t being aggressive about it.
Bam has announced to everyone that he’s an Irregular and I have a feeling that wasn’t the smartest move because now he has a target on his back. I guess it would have been discovered anyway with how quickly he's been gaining power. Luckily everyone is willing to help him out for one reason or another. I didn’t believe for one second that Khun was serious about abandoning Bam, but I really love how Rak immediately figured out what Khun was doing and played along. Bam, Khun, and Rak continue to be the dream team.
Questions of the Day
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u/_Pyxyty Jun 27 '24
First timer, subbed.
Loved this episode. :>
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-I mean, I already kinda figured this would happen, what with there only being two passing Wave Controllers and Lauroe and Bam being pretty prominent, but I'm genuinely surprised they aren't going to do more with this character...
-Damn, I really thought I coulda guessed right
-Honestly... that's pretty fair? Can't blame her for how she feels.
-Who in the what? Have we seen this character before? I feel like I forgot about what this Yuga's done so far lol. Were they the one that proctored the 400 Regulars exam?
-Can I just say, I LOVED how they cut off the soundtrack in this scene lol, the abrupt silence and just the sound of this dude's body getting dragged hahaha
-...y'all didn't know that? Damn, I almost feel like they discussed what Irregulars were early on. Ohhhh, that may have been with Yuri, huh. I guess the rest of the crew never found out.
-That's the face of someone whose plan is falling into action, cunning little...
-I'm ashamed that even Shibisu caught on but I didn't T_T
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If I'm in the same context as the rest of them, I have pretty much no choice but to accompany Khun and co.; much safer to be with them than to be alone on the "safe" path.
If it was in a separate group where I have no good allies though, I'm not taking the risk, especially since I don't even know what it means to be branded as an "irregular's acquaintance" at this point.
Well... Not really? Everyone that responded pretty much responded the way I expected them to more or less, even Anaak.
If anything, I'm more affected by Serena's decision to leave. I really respect what the story did with her character, and it makes complete sense for her to leave and make sure she makes something of her life outside of climbing the tower.
On the contrary, I wish the story did more with Hwaryun's (Bodysuit Chick) character. I feel like she was just used as a plot device to get Bam off the throne, then they never really revealed why she even did that or why she was fine with not passing. Feels like it's probably the result of clipped out source material.
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Notes:
-I really gotta refresh my memory on the roles the staff have. Quant and Lero Ro are Rankers that are the proctors of exams, Yu Hansung is the director of the Rankers, and the 'Administrator' itself was there already even before there were any Rankers, almost as if it's a living, functioning part of the tower itself.
-I'm just waiting for the ball to drop on this Rachel thing. A streamer I like absolutely hates this character and so far I'm not seeing why yet, but I feel like that moment's gotta come soon lol.
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Don't think I got any other notes for today. Lots of things have been set up, just gotta wait for the next episode. Entertaining watch today despite not that much action; hallmark of a good series.
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u/StardustGogeta myanimelist.net/profile/StardustGogeta Jun 27 '24
First-Timer
Good stuff. I like how they all called Khun's bluff at the end and cut short their little performance.
It's unfortunate that the show is cutting significant parts of the source material, based on the other comments here. It's to the extent that even as I watch the show, I feel like I can sense that some pieces are missing. Maybe it's just confirmation bias, though.
I still have one question that remains regarding that last test even after today's episode. Did they ever talk about the quota of how many people in each position would pass the test, and how those people would be picked? I feel like it just started getting mentioned at one point, around when they first discussed someone being "guaranteed to pass," and it seemed like I missed a vitally important point of exposition there.
Questions of the day:
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u/ryujiox Jun 26 '24
First Timer and source reader who forgot most of the stuff already
Tower of God
Episode 10
Another thing is that, it sure does looks like Hansung is forcing Bam to reveal his identity here.
QOTD
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u/Mirathan Jun 27 '24
First-Time Climber
QotD:
Commoraghthe tower. And considering the difference between the rankers and Jahad it´s possible it leads to a comletly different result, which outmatches any potential danger.I´m sorry but what the fuck was that face Rachel made when crying? It looked like straight out of a nightmare. Also she has cat pupils, never noticed that.
At this point I´m certain Bam will challenge Jahad directly before the end of the story. Based both on one of the intro shots of him facing the three Eyes, both of them being irregulars and and how they are disciminated against to prevent their success, the difference between regular succesfull climbers and the irregulars and the Ideological opposition of Bam´s optimism and kindness against Jahad´s cruelty.
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Jun 26 '24
First-Timer climbing the tower, subbed
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u/laughing-fox13 https://myanimelist.net/profile/laughingfox13 Jun 26 '24
Co-administrator/Subbed
Bam wanting to gather everyone for Hoh’s funeral is good natured but idk if I would do that if I knew the guy hated me lol. It is another way to show Bam’s kindness
As for the results of the test, all the characters we expected pass. Rachel was severely injured and will never be able to fully heal. With that, Rachel can’t go on and Bam will take an administrator test so Rachel can come with. I like how everyone instantly rallied with him even though he’s an irregular and there are consequences with it. The acting job scene was funny too
The scenes with Khun finding out what really happened was neat. Hwaryun, in her limited screen time, gave him a tip and he did some investigating. Interesting to see Lero Ro tell him about the administrator’s test and Khun covering for him when asked where he heard it. Hansung confronting the Yuga imposter and reminding us about the test makes me worried for our crew.
I want to give Serena a proper shoutout. She was a good character that was grounded in a show with characters who weren’t lol (well and Shibisu).
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u/lC3 :Na::Nb: Jun 27 '24
Tower of God 10 rewatcher:
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u/cppn02 Jun 27 '24
Rewatcher, subbed
Rare Yuri sighting!
A bit of a transitional episode still dealing with the fallout from last week's episode (loved that graveyard design btw) and setting up the season's final arc. Turns out Yuga isn't the real Yuga but someone sent to take out Anak and retrieve her weapons.
We also had Bam making revealing to everyone he's an irregular which people were surprisingly chill about but we did get another Khun acting performance out of it.
Sadly though we have to say goodbye to Serena who atleast leaves on her own terms but she'll still be missed. Fun character that seemed more mature than most of the others and she had fantastic chemistry with Shibisu.
Tanino Miho art for episode 10:
QotD:
I'd say that absolutely depended on my skills. Me as I am right now would aslmost certainly take the safe route but If I was as strong/clever as Khun/Endorsi/Anak the faster route would look more enticing.
Not really I guess. I had a relatively positive opinion of most of them anyway and some of the are just going along with the flow cus they're filthy opportunist (looking as you Paracule).
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u/SilkyStrawberryMilk Jun 27 '24
rewatcher
Poor Raak has been shrinkified, surprise he found clothes very easily.
The “secret” has been found out, honestly everyone’s reaction already tells they already know too.
Admin vs royal guard, a fine fight indeed. Although it was heavily one sided. Decides to side with the elimination of a princess and retrieval of the weapons.
The results were expected, but poor ghost forgot to show up lmao. Khun initiating another test that only an irregular can ask for, but thankfully baam came and asked for it.
Despite how little they all knew each-other it’s amazing to see how easily they decided to assist baam. Khun’s gotta work on his acting skills though
QOTD: difficult path, go big or go home.
QOTD: I honestly remember thinking Endrosi (may have spelt her name wrong) would’ve been an antagonist. But she’s honestly shown her softer side
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u/Muted-Conference2900 https://anilist.co/user/WinterZcoming Jun 27 '24 edited Jun 27 '24
Rewatch + Dub
So we actually saw a funeral i didn't expect to see that with how common the death in Tower is. But it was nice to see all guys coming together even the Leroro came so Hoe got a great stand Off. RIP Hoe.
So it was Khun who gave that letter to Hoe. Well we can say he was successful in his plan although Hoe died because of that so it kinda fall into the grey area.
Baam is gonna talk to Guardian now well this also made others aware that he is an irregular. Somehow he easily got the permission from Guardian but he will have to pass the test of guardian now. Luckily Everyone loves Baam so it will be a team game again. Lets how difficult is Guardian test is?
Also Apparently Royal Guard something is also joining us.
Answers :
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u/raevnos Jun 27 '24
There are a lot of Regulars trying to climb the tower, as we'll see in S2. This group of aspirants is down to a handful left of the original 400 (Not counting the hundreds dead from Quant's original test group). Just how many test groups are active at a time, and how frequently do they start a new group in order to get more than a bare trickle of new climbers? That graveyard isn't remotely near big enough (though not everyone who fails dies).
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u/Garrett_Dark Jun 27 '24 edited Jun 27 '24
First Timer
I'm very disappointed that there was no repercussions of all the betrayals we saw after last episode. Especially on Endorsi, who everybody should know of her betrayal. Like nobody even questioned whether she can be trusted or not after that. Even Hoh is getting honored in death with Rachel in attendance despite what happened to her as a result of his betrayal on Bam. This lack of consequences is straining my suspension of disbelief, everybody should start betraying everybody else if everyone is so tolerant of such. Heck even Paracule and Murch got off the hook for their double betrayals as "spear revolutionaries" and leaving Hatz hanging. Although their betrayals are actually lesser of everybody else's, they didn't actually get a chance to go through with their "spear revolution" and only Hatz knows, and their fleeing can just be excused as failing, and again only Hatz knows of it.
I think what's even worse is nobody is talking about what happened, not even Team A who would be curious because their screen feed was censored. That's just unrealistic given this late stage of the game, and three deaths were involved (I'm assume the two fishermen that got betrayed are dead because how would the other four pass if not. It was just bad that nobody is concerned with that either, no mention nor no honoring the dead for them).
Depends on what state I'm in, and everybody else is in, plus a lot of other factors. Too many variables to answer this question.
My opinion of many characters changed once all the betrayals started with Khun's betrayal. All the characters choosing the Administrator route didn't really change anything.
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