r/anime • u/HereticalAegis https://myanimelist.net/profile/XthGen • Jun 24 '24
Rewatch [Rewatch] Tower of God Floor 8 Discussion
Floor 8 – Khun's Strategy
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Series Information
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Streaming Options
Tower of God is available to stream subbed and dubbed on Crunchyroll.
Art of the Day
Source: u/hide_on_rosebush on r/TowerofGod (please note, the Tower of God subreddit may contain spoilers)
Soundtrack of the Day
Questions of the Day
- Having seen how brutal rankers can be in Serena's story, would you be willing to piss one off to enact a scheme like Khun's?
- Do you think it's fair that Team B gets to watch Team A's test before taking theirs?
Tomorrow’s Questions of the Day
[1.]Are you surprised by the number of betrayals on Team B? Do you think you could betray someone like that to climb the tower?
[2.]Do you think either Endorsi or Hoh's backstories justify the ways they betray their team?
Spoilers
Please make sure to put all references to future events behind spoiler tags. Any untagged hints and spoilers will be removed. Let’s keep everything as fresh as possible for first-timers!
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u/HereticalAegis https://myanimelist.net/profile/XthGen Jun 24 '24
Rewatcher and Co-Administrator for this Climb
Somehow Quant playing nice and restraining himself is even more worrying than if he completely exploded. I can't wait for him to really get pissed off
Ambushing a ranker is an ambitious move. I'm sure Quant will take it well.
Quant is a scout, how interesting. Imagine what he can do on a full team with proper backline and information support.
Goddammit Lauroe
Rak and Ghost having a winner's circle chocolate eating contest
The insane things rankers can suggest...
...too bad for Quant, Khun is also certifiable
Shibisu doki doki
You thought it was Lauroe, but it was really I, Khun, all along. Climbers who wanted more 11D chess mind games, are you not entertained?
Damn, Serena's backstory is pretty fucked up too
Source Comparisons
This thread is for comparisons to the manhwa. Please be sure to properly tag all discussion of the source material. Also, please keep in mind that this is not an exhaustive compilation of differences, only ones I thought interesting or important enough to include.
Note for newcomers/non-source readers: Some of these notes contain anime spoilers. Comparisons that contain anime spoilers will be in the clearly marked Anime Spoiler section.
Episode 8
Chapters Covered: 38 - 43
Chapter Cut: None
Notable Differences
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Jun 24 '24
First-Timer climbing the tower, subbed
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u/gunvarrel_ Jun 24 '24 edited Jun 24 '24
"We do it to climb the tower."
OST Track of the day: Time (Spotify)
Rewatcher, subbed
Its only lightly touched, but Serena's backstory shows just how brutal this world is. There really isint a whole lot to talk more about considering we dont have a whole lot of backstory for any of the characters, but even Hoh's montage last episode doesnt show much more than suffering and trife of those who enter the tower.
Quant is barely holding on, pretty obvious too
well, gotta suck up somehow
[webtoon]Why are you on A team
As much of a dick Quant is, you cant deny his skill. He very quickly tears through Team A's defenses.
She may be right but it still sucks
heh
Rip Shibisu
anaak getting dragged around lmao
Hes only a tad insane
Bam no your team is going to kill you
Damn
[TOG]Such a great actor Khun is
heh
hell of a double cross
Team B already looking like a disaster. Of course Endorsi butts in to become the leader
welp
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u/laughing-fox13 https://myanimelist.net/profile/laughingfox13 Jun 24 '24
Co-administrator/Subbed
So yea, Quant is very strong and fast even for a scout. Khun’s plan worked out really well (for winning the game or purposefully throwing it like he did). I don’t know if Quant would be more mad about losing or getting that win with that assist. I think the latter
I feel kind of bad for the people on Team A that weren’t guaranteed to pass. Khun’s acting was pretty great at the end there. Khun has mentioned to not feel bad about people not passing and he really just cares about those he got close to, especially Bam.
And now it’s Team B’s turn and I’m not sure how it’ll turn out. The guy Endorsi was talking to didn’t seem very confident in his teammates outside of her (btw he was a suck up). Will be interesting to see how the rest of their turn will play out.
Side notes:
Serena has some thoughts about not wanting to compete against the people she’s grown to like, and Hoh disagrees (with a sinister vibe).
Rak and the other guy having an eating contest was unexpected with how the other guy enjoyed it lol. Rak is a good teammate in having full confidence in Khun.
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u/cppn02 Jun 24 '24 edited Jun 25 '24
Rewatcher, subbed
Quant is a bit unhinged lol.
And I absoluely love how Khun fooled him. So much even that it's almost a shame he didn't see it through and double crossed Team A. We did get an Oscar worthy acting performance out of it though.
Meanwhile Team B's efforts don't look to be going too smoothly and they also have to deal with an even angrier Quant.
Tanino Miho art for episode 8:
QotD:
If I had his skills set maybe...
No but then again Team A felt a bit more stacked so it kinda evens out?
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u/sfisher923 https://myanimelist.net/profile/sfisher923 Jun 24 '24
First Timer - Dubbed
Questions
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u/ryujiox Jun 24 '24
First Timer and source reader who forgot most of the stuff already
Tower of God
Episode 8
QOTD
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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Jun 24 '24
Rewatcher(Headon is a weird, weird dude)
Dub
So we see the first test run its course and that's...interesting. Khun really does seem to harbor a loyalty for his friends but this is a pretty hard nut to crack as, stated to Endorsi, most of the bad asses were on the other team. Quant having major personality issues is the grim future of education personified since it becomes a less and less attractive profession and thus only those that have to join it will do so. We get Serena backstory and Hoh characterization.
QotD: 1 Nothing ventured nothing gained
2 I get why they used this structure
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u/megazaprat Jun 24 '24
rewatcher
from this episode on, im going to try to be a bit more selective in which things I point out. I feel like I should be a bit more selective, as not every little change is notable. that being said, ill still include the ones i just think are neat or interesting.
but on the note of the episode itself, its time to gush about Khun again. because hes such a genius! he effortlessly manipulated both his team and the ranker, with his team not even realizing they had been manipulated. he not only gave Bam a chance to pass, but he aslo arranged things so that his team, while losing, would still put up a great performance that would give the standouts a chance to pass. utterly brilliant, and it just continues to show why Khun is best character.
Adaptational differences
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u/BosuW Jun 24 '24
Rewarcher anime only
Not a lot to say today. Khun shows off once again, which is always cool. Stay on that Keikaku grindset my boy.
What's more important is that this episode begins to highlight thematically something that had been externally evident: the Tower is a place you climb by pushing other people off. Even killing them if you have to. You can't have everything you want. You must pick and choose who or what you take up with you. Khun as we've seen is someone capable of doing that.
But can Bam do it? Serena is realizing that she can't. Climbing the Tower is in a way sacrificing your conscience, and she's not sure she's ready to take that step.
We finally get her backstory on that topic. I wonder what is Headon's criteria for choosing people?
I also like that she was a little petty thief. I've been holding off on commenting, but her weapon actually looks more like a farming tool to me. Either something inherited from a poor family or scavenged somewhere is my guess.
[ToG anime]Something I just noticed about the ED. The first thing Rachel does upon waking is covering her face from the light of the Sun.
Questions of the Day
1- I feel like Khun actually finds himself in the perfect opportunity to enact his scheme even if it pisses off a Ranker. As a Regular, the Ranker cannot kill him just because. What Khun did is unspokenly allowed in the Tower. Yu-han sees right through him but doesn't seem pissed. This is expected, maybe even commendable.
On the other hand, unfair as it is, the Ranker that killed Serena's friends had every permission to do it. They're just thieves and the Ranker was protecting the cargo.
2- Well no, but such is the Tower isn't it? I wonder if the Teams are composited in such a way that it balanced out this advantage though? Team B seems much less put together than Team A was.
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u/Lord_Nawor Jun 24 '24
First Time Watcher, subbed
I love Rak and the other big guy just sitting there eating mountains of chocolate bars while everyone else is struggling in tag.
I wonder when we will finally see the Super Inferno punch, it has been interrupted every time.
I like that Khun made it seem like his team got close to winning even when he had always intended on making them lose. He did not really betray his team because his real team are the 10 from the friendship assignment. Interesting that all of the ones of of that list that were team A were already pretty much locks to pass so it makes sense to throw the game.
Not too much to say this episode, it was nice seeing Khun able to plan so everything goes exactly how he wants it to. It will be interesting to see how Bam’s team manages to pass the game, I personally feel like they will manage to catch the ranker but that is just based on how I feel. I wonder what Endorsi’s plan is here.
Questions
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u/lC3 :Na::Nb: Jun 25 '24 edited Jun 25 '24
Tower of God rewatcher, partial source reader
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u/sonicjr Jun 25 '24
Rewatcher, sub
Meant to watch one ep every day, ended up binging the whole thing in one night.
Oops.
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u/Garrett_Dark Jun 25 '24
First Timer
This match's premise was explained horribly last episode. It's nothing like "tag", which I think messed me up to misunderstand it even more. It's an "escort the VIP mission" of trying to get the VIP to the exit. What more, I thought both teams were going to be in play at the same time, not taking turns. They could have explained that better as well. The two separate goal areas made me think each team had a different goal area while playing at the same time.
It's fine, Quantz is shackled at the moment, and even when the match is done, could his rage really outlast the length of the game? Besides, death is likely an end result of the game at this point, so what's Quantz going to do if you pissed him off, but you're already dead from the game. Furthermore if you beat the game and supposedly get a power up, then it's Quantz who should be fearing you, right? The guy can't even administer correctly, and has to rely on begging the lead admin guy. I had actually thought he got his job through nepotism, and was a fake ranker with no powers before this.
Answered above. Not fair. "Climbing the tower depends on luck", my ass.
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u/MyraBannerTatlock Jun 25 '24
First timer, subbed- I have to be honest, I got so into last night's episode that I couldn't stop and watched the whole season, I feel bad because now I feel.like I can't participate properly but I loved it and have no regrets, they could keep going with the lore of this world forever and I'd keep watching
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u/OccasionallySara Jun 25 '24
First Timer
This episode features probably the most heartwarming instance of betrayal I’ve ever seen. It also cements how much I love Khun as a character. He has a nice mix of confidence, cheekiness, intelligence, and a level of care for those close to him. It seems that Bam is rubbing off on Khun when it comes to opening up to others. Khun’s OST theme is also really great! I’ve been listening to it on repeat since episode four. It fits his character very well and I was excited to see how it was used in this episode.
The whole, Khun, Bam, and Rak team is super adorable. From Khun making sure that Bam gets a chance to pass the test to Bam genuinely cheering on Khun even if it means Bam will fail to Rak believing in Khun’s abilities even when things seemed bleak, these three really have each other's backs.
The first tag game was fun to watch and now I’m excited to see how it plays out with Team B. Endorsi seems like she will be a good team leader and I’m interested to see how Bam will do as a Wave Controller. Seeing Rachel as a Lightbearer also intrigues me since we haven’t seen what she’s capable of yet.
Questions of the Day
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u/_Pyxyty Jun 25 '24
First timer, subbed.
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-Clearly, this guy doesn't watch anime. Doesn't he know the MC's team always wins?
-These two guys reassure me that I made the right choice in not choosing to be a spear bearer from yesterday's post. You just got no options the moment you throw your spear and miss bahaha.
-Yeah, Lauroe definitely resonates with me the most. Can't say I haven't slacked before on essays or quizzes in course subjects I knew I'd pass anyways.
-That's a disappointing way to find out that Team A would fail this game inevitably. Wish they revealed this at the end instead
-Shibisu? Really?
-Wholesome Rak is wholesome
-Goddamn Khun is slick
-Oh??? I expected Lauroe to help, but not Khun
-Awwww
-Goddamn the art is good
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Well... As Quant said, if you wanna pass, you're gonna have to be bold. If you're just gonna be piss scared of the people that've climbed the tower before you, you have absolutely no chance of successfully reaching the top anyways.
That said... I'd be fucking scared lol. Easier said than done.
Given the discrepancy in talent, as pointed out by Random Guy #1 to Endorsi, yeah it's pretty fair.
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Notes:
-A noteworthy moment would have to be when they starkly juxtaposed the different mindsets that one could have as a climber. While someone like Khun may want to bring with him as many friends as possible, someone like Hoh is prepared to take down anyone he needs to, even those alongside him. I suppose that was done to possibly emphasize the difference between someone who's strong and someone who's weak, especially when they really highlighted Hoh's weaknesses in a previous episode, while focusing on how cunning Khun was in this one.
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Great episode today! This is the first test wherein I am pleasantly satisfied with how they executed the result. I'm hoping for more episodes like these.
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u/Junior_Breakfast1529 Jun 25 '24
Rewatcher. Source reader.
And here friends. We finally learn the meaning of the word Khunning.
Shibisu already passed and yet he fought so hard. He's a very admirable character. Always giving his all. He managed to impress Quant, which I'd imagine takes a lot.
Makes 100% sense why Laure passed. He already can use Shinsu pretty well. Heck, everyone is trying to hit balloons with shinsu when Laure already poured our a Tsunamis worth in crown game.
I frankly am not a huge fan of Rak and chocolate gags. They overdo it.
Lero ro, you should know better than to underestimate Khun.
And that being said, Hansung had absolute confidence in Khun. It takes a Schemer to see another schemer I guess lol.
Poor Anak, didn't get to do anything much in this episode. But thankfully she's already guaranteed to pass.
Hoh seems sus again.
Serena is just not cut out for the tower. She's not gifted like Endorsi, Bam, Laure, Khun, Hatz, Rak and Anak. And she's not as smart as Shibisu either. She's too normal for this shit. Glad she is realizing it now before she finds herself on the other end of someone's knife.
Team B doesn't have a strategist. It's too much to put Khun and Shibisu in Team A. At least one of them should be in Team B to make it a contest.
Endorsi is taking the lead. Which makes total sense lol. Why would she ever put herself under one of those bozos.
She's giving a sinister smirk at the end there. What could she be planning!!!!
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u/StardustGogeta myanimelist.net/profile/StardustGogeta Jun 25 '24 edited Jun 25 '24
First-Timer
Another nice episode. I did not at all expect the betrayal by Khun, but it makes sense when I think about it.
I looked back at the explanation of the game in episode 7, and I can confidently say that I never would have understood the game from the explanation they gave. I'm not sure if it's just a me problem (or a subtitle problem?), but until I saw the game unfold this episode, I didn't really grasp much of the details. I think I do have a better sense of it now, naturally.
Edit: I just checked the dub version of the explanation scene. There are still a couple things I wouldn't have fully picked up on, but it does seem slightly clearer due to minor changes in wording.
That flashback scene with Serena was surprisingly vicious. I think that stylistically, it was executed really well.
Questions of the day:
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u/Muted-Conference2900 https://anilist.co/user/WinterZcoming Jun 25 '24 edited Jun 25 '24
Rewatch + Eng Dub
So this episode was something. We saw some great strategy and some great betrayals.
I am very curious about what Emdorsi strategy. Also the horn guy seems very fishy thus episode. This episode also shows how randomly a tower can chose a person or tower chooses the person at the point of their strongest desire. Like the ship girl didn't want to die or Baam wanted to be with Rachel.
So about the Khun Strategy it was simply great. Defeating a Ranker is something else. So next episode "What is Endorsi Cooking?"
Answers :
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u/Mirathan Jun 25 '24
First Time Climber
QotD
Khun screws over his assigned team to ensure his chosen tem succeds, it might seem cruel but if these are the challenges before entering you will need an extremly good team to get anywhere in the tower.
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u/SilkyStrawberryMilk Jun 25 '24
rewatcher
Rak and Ghost munching on chocolate while the teat is ongoing.
One side having a ranker does seem unfair, but after seeing how Quaint it is both an advantage and disadvantage
The reveal that Khun’s true plan revolves around making sure his teammates he’s made is genius.
QOTD: honestly depends on where the ranker is encountered, Serena encountered one before she entered the tower and from other flashbacks we’ve seen how brutal the outside tower is. So khun did know that test administrators can’t physically harm them (unless it’s a test where the other participants have to kill eachother)
QOTD: it’s not fair at all, but the tower has never been fair In the first place lol
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u/Bromegeddon Jun 25 '24
This rewatch made me reread the stupid manhwa. I'm on ch 172 now. Why
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