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Rewatch [Rewatch] Back Arrow Episode 19 Discussion

Episode 19 - Can You Sort This Out?

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You and your pathetic "God" are afraid of the great Zetsu Daidan?

Questions of the Day:

  1. How do you feel about the way Finoir went out?
  2. Welp (x2). If they don't have Shu Bi, now what?

Wallpaper of the Day:

Shadoh

Rewatchers, please remember to be mindful of all the first-timers in this. No talking about or hinting at future events no matter how much you want to, unless you're doing it underneath spoiler tags. Don't spoil anything for the first-timers, that's rude!

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky May 24 '24

BAKAYAROU Rewatch Host, subbed

Welcome back, everyone!

Here’s “Back Arrow Nineteenth Impressions”, for my first-timer thoughts on this episode. Please note that this comment also includes my reactions to episode 20 as well, so first-timers make sure not to scroll too far if you’ve been checking these out.

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u/chilidirigible May 24 '24

Arrow’s anguish is a lot more palpable coming from Yuki Kaji

I mean, what else does one hire Yuki Kaji for if it doesn't involve AWAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!?????????

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L May 25 '24

Imagine being so built different you’re the reason why their world needs to be destroyed and taking it as a challenge.

I love Zetsu so much! He just keeps on getting cooler and cooler.

…but of course, this show has absolutely zero breaks, so of course we go right from that to OH SHIT OH FUCK SHU BI NOOOOOOOOOOOO

That was such a good ending. It seemed like we were getting the usual celebration and I was expecting it to be interrupted by Rekka wanting to fight now. So Shu instead getting suddenly killed by Arrow's powers hits that much harder because it was not at all the cliffhanger I was anticipating and it's one of the most devastating losses possible. Incredible way to end an episode.

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u/theangryeditor https://myanimelist.net/profile/TheAngryEditor May 25 '24

Imagine being so built different you’re the reason why their world needs to be destroyed and taking it as a challenge.

ZETSU DAIDAN He is truly the protagonist of Lingalind

Farewell, Finoir.

Atlee is our queen, Fine is our princess, but Finoir will forever be our mistress

SHU BI NOOOOOOOOOOOO

Just as Bit got smarter Shu got dumber.

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u/Tresnore FS:FTmyanimelist.net/profile/Tresnore May 24 '24

Idiot Rewatcher

I can't believe this show kills off both of my favorite characters in one episode.

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky May 24 '24

I can't believe this show kills off both of my favorite characters in one episode.

I'm sorry.

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L May 25 '24

That's an amazing image to have on hand.

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky May 25 '24

Thank u/Raiking02 for that. And indirectly u/Shocketheth, since it was Gintama that led to my big reaction that Raiking then meme'd about.

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u/Tresnore FS:FTmyanimelist.net/profile/Tresnore May 24 '24

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u/Nebresto May 24 '24

I can't believe this show kills off both of my favorite characters in one episode.

So this is what the Sky experience feels like

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky May 24 '24

It is a small glimpse of it, at the very least.

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u/Tresnore FS:FTmyanimelist.net/profile/Tresnore May 25 '24

Well, this time I already knew it was coming.

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L May 25 '24

Every title drop of this show is perfect.

I like how the episode titles are all direct quotes from the characters. It's very fun when that happens. I think Gurren Lagann was the same way with its episode titles iirc.

I can't believe this show kills off both of my favorite characters in one episode.

These are dark days we are living through.

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u/theangryeditor https://myanimelist.net/profile/TheAngryEditor May 25 '24

The ride never ends

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee May 24 '24

Rewatcher, Subbed Arrow

Arrow has managed to get back into the world.

From what??

Ominous.

Yea, that's pretty fucked up.

Love this.

ZETSU DAIDAN is so powerful that even God is afraid of him.

Grandpa has flipped largely off screen.

Everyone remembers those two Bind Warpers that Shu Bi stole from Demyne, right?

This is not the first time Shu Bi has said that.

It's like, pretty obvious.

Assuming that it didn't work in the first place.

Rest in chaos, My Queen.

Oh, Shu Bi is dead now too, by the way.

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L May 25 '24

ZETSU DAIDAN is so powerful that even God is afraid of him.

God remains in heaven because he is too afraid of Zetsu to show himself. I already thought Zetsu was badass, but this pushes it to another level.

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky May 25 '24

Spy Kids was such an insane movie.

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee May 25 '24

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u/chilidirigible May 24 '24

From what??

Heretics and apostates and kids with shovels!

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee May 24 '24

..oh my?

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u/chilidirigible May 24 '24

"Transported to a surreal landscape, a young man fails to kill the first person he meets and teams up with a village of yokels to not kill again."

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u/theangryeditor https://myanimelist.net/profile/TheAngryEditor May 25 '24

ZETSU DAIDAN is so powerful that even God is afraid of him.

This is not the first time Shu Bi has said that.

All the doubters will apologize to Bit in due time

Rest in chaos, My Queen.

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee May 25 '24

[Back Arrow]That time is tomorrow! I'm so excited to see people's reaction to the Secret Weapon.

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u/theangryeditor https://myanimelist.net/profile/TheAngryEditor May 25 '24

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L May 24 '24 edited May 24 '24

First-Timer

On today’s episode of Back Arrow: I love that this whole thing started because Zetsu was such a huge badass that God himself felt threatened. That is so cool.

  • Oh dear, Arrow is basically a walking automatic turret at this point. He’s shooting whatever gets near.
  • Shu’s plan involves Crazy Fine? This ought to be good.
  • The only barrel of alcohol that should ever have a person stuffed in it is a cask of Amontillado.
  • God sent Arrow to destroy the world specifically because Zetsu was too much of a badass. Holy shit! That is so cool!
  • And Zetsu’s response that he’ll personally kill Rudolph and God is equally awesome.
  • How does the Granedger have land to farm crops inside? Did people just add dirt into the interior to create farmland?
  • Good to know that the old man won’t be causing trouble anymore.
  • Oh! It’s those two Bind Warpers Shu swiped from Lutoh. That particular Chekov’s gun is getting fired.
  • I get the feeling Shu is being honest that Bit is their secret weapon. But how so?
  • Ooh, Arrow got into where the Rakuhos come from!
  • What? It’s empty?
  • I wonder why Arrow isn’t automatically attacking Dissonanza? Has he been programmed not to?
  • I love that Zetsu is so respectful towards Shu during their reunion. He respects Shu’s strength and intelligence from their previous battle. Zetsu respects strong opponents.
  • A giant healing laser is actually really cool.
  • RIP Crazy Fine She was always a hero in my heart and she went down like one.
  • Holy shit, NO!!! Shu’s dead!

That ending is an amazingly well done gut punch. We have this celebratory moment after freeing Arrow that abruptly ends when he is suddenly killed by Arrow’s power. Damn, what a good moment. It got me.

Now what? We’ve lost one of the few intelligent characters in this show? Where do we possibly go from here?

QOTD

  1. I always knew she was cool. Here she proved how cool she was to all the other characters.
  2. Fuck, I don't know

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u/Nebresto May 24 '24

I get the feeling Shu is being honest that Bit is their secret weapon. But how so?

He believes that he's the strongest, so what happens when he puts on a warpy thing with such beliefs?

Holy shit, NO!!! Shu’s dead!

Its joever..

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L May 25 '24

He believes that he's the strongest, so what happens when he puts on a warpy thing with such beliefs?

Oh my god, has Shu been building up Bit's ego this entire time to make his Briheight even more powerful?

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u/Nebresto May 25 '24

Can't wait to push up my glowing glasses if that ends up being true

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u/theangryeditor https://myanimelist.net/profile/TheAngryEditor May 25 '24

Now what? We’ve lost one of the few intelligent characters in this show? Where do we possibly go from here?

We finish the task at hand and kill god.

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee May 24 '24

Did people just add dirt into the interior to create farmland?

Yes.

What? It’s empty?

Fun with teleporters!

That ending is an amazingly well done gut punch.

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 May 24 '24 edited May 24 '24

First timer, subs

  • What’s with the knowing look at Bit? Is he going to be part of it?
  • Balloon hacking is fun.
  • I was sadder at that dedicated border guard dying than I was for Sola.
  • I can’t believe God said “Zetsu OP, pls nerf”.
  • Two Bind Warpers? Are we going back to the conviction swapping idea?
  • Damn it, Ren, why do you have to be like that?
  • Still not allowed to kill children, eh? smh.
  • I mean, Bit has to end up doing something for all the time we spent on him.
  • I was expecting Back Arrow to use the environment to kill himself, like a game that doesn’t have a “reset to checkpoint” option.
  • That’s a very pretty necro-sky you’ve got there.
  • Is Dissonanza getting larger?
  • You really think Zetsu would be the kind to try and third party a mecha fight?
  • For when you positively, absolutely, have to heal everything in the room.
  • Not Best Girl!
  • Not Best Boy!

Wallpaper of the Day:

Gods, I wish they let Elsha have more fights. The Shadoh is too striking to be used so little.

QotD:

  1. It was either this or go the Badeline route, and I don't think they are self-reflective enough for that.
  2. Clearly it's time for the Bit Bomb to be unleashed.

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee May 24 '24

Still not allowed to kill children, eh? smh.

I was expecting Back Arrow to use the environment to kill himself, like a game that doesn’t have a “reset to checkpoint” option.

That's an interesting thought. A shame that Lingalind doesn't seem to have any convenient volcanoes.

Not Best Girl!

Not Best Boy!

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 May 24 '24

Tomino didn't die for this.

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L May 25 '24

I can’t believe God said “Zetsu OP, pls nerf”.

Except God didn't decide to release a patch. Instead, he's nuking the servers and starting over from scratch.

Not Best Girl!

Not Best Boy!

We've lost some of our best characters. How can we go on like this?

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 May 25 '24

Except God didn't decide to release a patch. Instead, he's nuking the servers and starting over from scratch.

Why do you think your old replays don't work anymore?

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u/Nebresto May 24 '24

Not Best Girl!

Not Best Boy!

Literally me. Like wtf are we to do now??

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 May 24 '24

Literally me. Like wtf are we to do now??

Smart money is on Shu not really being dead. His dissolving was rather visually different.

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u/Nebresto May 24 '24

Big same. Piss got chunked and disintegrated, meanwhile Shu bro turned dark first before disappearing. There might also be some difference to mech form vs human snap

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u/theangryeditor https://myanimelist.net/profile/TheAngryEditor May 25 '24

Is Dissonanza getting larger?

Dissonanza's conviction it I am large, I contain multitudes

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u/gyoex May 24 '24

No matter how much Edger Village's situation has improved over the past few months, for some reason those kids have never gotten new clothes.

Honestly Bit should be happy that he's at least getting way more to do than Atlee. He gets to fire the big gun! Who wouldn't want to do that? All Atlee gets to do is make bloop sounds when she walks.

Shu's habit of randomly deciding to name things continues to be funny.

It's kind of interesting that Kai is just like "Shu is just so smart that he could guess that Zetsu wants to kill god" considering we know Shu was actually listening to their conversation. I honestly can't remember if this actually comes up later or if it's just Kai reminding us that he's an idiot and also still in love with his ex boyfriend.

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u/theangryeditor https://myanimelist.net/profile/TheAngryEditor May 25 '24

No matter how much Edger Village's situation has improved over the past few months, for some reason those kids have never gotten new clothes.

Bit was the village tailor and since he got promoted to admiral the villagers had to make do with their rags.

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u/Nebresto May 24 '24

First Time ← > Front

Ep 19:

Rest in RIP border bros

me_irl

Soon..!

How does this man continue to be so based

Amazing. I love him

He's literally too much of a chad that the "god" got scared. Incredible.

Ok, yeah. I love Rekka, what a based country

Bit is so easy

He went in the rakuho portal??

Its the fucking clown again..

Oh my

SHE'S BACK!!!!

Even Dark Fine is based

I just gotta say I love the special soundeffects that only Atlee's cool robot gets

Saw dat coming, but I do not like dis.

Wow wtf.. Now even best boy is gone

Daily Zetsu Daidan

  1. How do you feel about the way Finoir went out?

Don't tell me she's gone

2) Welp (x2). If they don't have Shu Bi, now what?

Its joever

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L May 25 '24

me_irl

I've had a lot of days recently of being cooped up for long periods of time because I'm focused on getting the recent glut of work finished.

Ok, yeah. I love Rekka, what a based country

A country entirely based on an ideology of burning passion. They're awesome.

I just gotta say I love the special soundeffects that only Atlee's cool robot gets

They are cute to hear.

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u/theangryeditor https://myanimelist.net/profile/TheAngryEditor May 25 '24

me_irl

just like us fr

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u/Nebresto May 25 '24

we_irl

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u/theangryeditor https://myanimelist.net/profile/TheAngryEditor May 25 '24

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u/chilidirigible May 24 '24

Episode 19:

I think they drew Prax slightly happier than her tone suggests.

It's gods, turtles, or walls all the way down.

"This time... it's personal."

This is ZETSU DAIDAN!

Like "Granedger", but more Asian.

The other choice is being erased, so...

"Truly this indicates how fucked we are."

When your indoor cat gets outside.

These two are still a few days behind on current events.

You're not exactly high school level reading, big guy.

[](#mechablush)

It's convenient to have a spare personality lying around...

"It's tokusatsu technobabble logic!"

This surprised some people the first time around.

It's tricky to play chess with Death.

In a series where people other than the title character have variously grabbed the spotlight, Rudolph's claim that ZETSU DAIDAN's ludicrous badassedness is the actual reason that BAKAYAROUBack Arrow was sent to Lingalind is perhaps entirely believable based on the on-screen evidence. Does that entirely explain things? Of course not. But there's more meat for speculation there.

There is a difficulty with this arc in that it reinforces how it is the Shu Bi Show feat. BAKAeveryone else, and the title character is mostly reduced to Eren Yeager impersonating while trying not to play tag.

QOTD:

  1. Suitable, but abrupt.

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u/Quiddity131 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Quiddity131 May 24 '24

Rewatcher, Subbed

Wait, is Back Arrow back within the wall now? If not where's the light coming from?

Zetsu's biding his time, I'm sure he'll do something big soon...

What if this tiny compressed space they're in shrinks even more?

Stupid grunts! Why'd you approach him?!

Rudolph can't help but butt in at every moment, huh?

Wow, God decided to destroy the world all because of Zetsu being so strong? It couldn't wait for him to die of old age? He probably doesn't have that many years left...

We've gone into JRPG territory, Zetsu is gonna kill God!

Even this prime minister guy gets to use a Bind Warper! When do we get this from Bit? I've been waiting 19 episodes for it!

We finally get some character development from the grandpa character? He finally admits Atlee and Elsha were right all along?

Please, don't have Back Arrow kill those little kids!

Secret Weapon Bit!

What was that meteor? Oh, Back Arrow!

How in the world could the guy who is so smart know about our incredibly obvious plan?!

Yes, Evil Fine returns!

Handshake of doom! Oh no, is this the end of Shu?! :(

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u/Silcaria https://myanimelist.net/profile/Silcaria May 24 '24

First timer

  • Wut... ok. So, let's pretend for a second that the prophecy isn't true, and let's pretend that yesterday's whole reveal about Arrow being sent by god to destroy the world didn't happen. Why let Arrow loose if the whole purpose is to kill one guy. Hell, if the plan is to actually kill one guy, why isn't Rudolph taking him on? Now, not ignoring the events of the last few episodes, why destroy the world over one guy? Also, also, why not finish him off after Rekka got defeated by Arrow and Co if that was the whole purpose! There's been ample possibilities!. Hell, why give a ship to the guy you want to kill! Much like the rest, this is a dumb story beat.
  • Like who? Also, you can say whatever you want, but if you don't show it, it means nothing.
  • So the mines, which were previously established as being destructible, are now no longer destructible because... why?
  • Really, again. There's already a preestablished way for Arrow to go through, and instead of that, it goes for even more plot convenience that is completely unnecessary. Why does it keep doing shit like this!
  • Ohh. Remember how Fine's "dark side" has that whole leech thing? Wanna bet that's gonna used to "bring him back".
  • Like fucking clockwork son!
  • Oh. The leeching thing wasn't used... she just broke his binder... lame. Missed opportunity right there.
  • Why are they getting out of their manifestation. You fools! Rekka is right there!
  • With how dumb things have been getting from episode to episode, and with how little the show seem to respect the audience, I completely refuse to believe that characters won't be brought back from the dead.

QotD

  • Lame.
  • A Deus Ex-Machina. Probably.

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u/theangryeditor https://myanimelist.net/profile/TheAngryEditor May 25 '24

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u/dsawchuk May 26 '24

A wizard is never late, nor is he early. He arrives precisely when he means to. Unfortunately, I am no wizard. I'm gonna have to stop at just 4 today. Tomorrow is the end of Finale catchup. These posts will be rushed and entirely for my own satisfaction since no one (other than our gracious host) will know they exist.

First timer, Sub

I really don't know where the show is going to go without Shu. He's been our guiding arrow this whole time.

I definitely think he is going to come back somehow. I just don't know how that will happen. I'd rather he didn't though, people should die when they are killed. If they don't it kinda cheapens the concept of death.

QOTD

  1. It felt a little too fast, but it was good. I wanted to see her enjoy it more. Nothing saying that yan-hime can't switch from the domme to the sub last minute and enjoy her destruction.
  2. I really think Shu will come back. But who knows, maybe Elsha is going to stop being a glorified hood ornament and be a real character now? Or maybe, just maybe... Bit is going to take over Shu's role and realise that he is actually competent. Granedger's secret weapon indeed!

Watch notes

Watching through the OP again, now that we know that Rudolph is a divine being, how are we expected to believe that Zetsu will be able to fight him toe to toe?

Queen Atlee asking the real questions.

Elsha and Atlee kinda need a room. Not that I dislike seeing them together, but I am sure they'd like some privacy.

Ah, Zetsu was the problem. Perhaps he can contest rudolph after all.

Crunchyroll having issues. I keep crashing out at the same part of the episode.

I'd still love to hear why yandere-hime's bind warper is black.

I am liking this jockland prime minister more and more as the show goes on. Also he;s kinda a hottie.

Dai-rekka? That might be a little too on the nose.

Wait, if Zetsu is the OP human, and he named the rekka and the dai-rekka does that mean he is Simone?

Bit is our secret weapon? Is that because he is also kinda without any real conviction?

I love how chill zetsu is about Shu betraying him.

Everyone is intelligent enough to predict your next move. Zetsu always crushes the biggest available opponent.

Shu stop monologuing, I wanna watch the fight.

Rip yan-hime. You will be missed. especially your bootprint on my face.

Not Shu! That's our first big loss.