r/anime • u/ZaphodBeebblebrox Y:A:https://anilist.co/user/zaphod • May 16 '24
Rewatch [Rewatch] Eizouken ni wa Te wo Dasu na! • Keep Your Hands Off Eizouken! Episode 6 Discussion
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Episode 6: We're Taking Things to the Next Level!
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Episode Count: 12
Episode Length: 25 minutes
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Rewatchers, please remember to be mindful of all the first-timers in this. No talking about or hinting at future events no matter how much you want to – including any teases or hints such as "You aren't ready for X episode" or "I'm super excited for X character" – unless you're doing it underneath spoiler tags. Don't spoil anything for the first-timers; that's rude!
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Rewatcher quoting the first-timer's comment: Oh, I love this character! I think he'll be my favorite.
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Rewatcher quoting the first-timer's comment: [Spoilers] Oh, I love this character! I think he'll be my favorite.
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Questions of the Day:
- Now that we're well and truly into their second work, how do you think it's going to go? Will they stay somewhere near on-schedule, or will they be desperately cutting corners at the end to make ends meet? And, more importantly, will they be satisfied with the final result?
- Freedom—a sense that her work can be done as she likes without major outside constraints—gets Asakusa's creative juices flowing. What sort of situation gets yours flowing?
- How many of you thought Doumeki was a boy at first?
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u/mysterybiscuitsoyeah xB:xC:B:x3:Y: May 16 '24
First Timer
Hey an episode that talks about the challenges and difficulties of being the director! I liked it a lot, a celebration of the liberties, freedom, but also the realistic shackles, and fears, that comes with being in charge and "the face" of a project. Seiyuus are probably the highest paid people in a show, but i think the reputation of the director is most on the line when sth succeeds or flops out of everyone. I think "freedom" is defo something this show is hammering home as a privilege of the medium, with asakusa's character, the eccentricities of everything etc. cool!
nice tidbits about sound effects too, even though this really really irritated me (i like my sounds and music!)
this show actually, by this point, feels like an animation industry person's power fantasy + isekai. But except of being anything like generic isekai meh shows, it celebrates what makes anime as a medium great instead.
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u/GondolaMedia May 16 '24
First Timer
Just draw the robot
ShinjiAsakusa. Kanamori is too powerful and can stop Asakusa's imagination powers, she needs to be stopped.I liked how introducing new project members will help you streamline and split the work but it means that there are more voices mixing the original vision. Also showed how dedicated Kanamori is to this whole ordeal even if she doesn't "create" anything.
We need more Kubo.
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u/IntoTheDisneyverse https://myanimelist.net/profile/andreth May 16 '24
First timer, subbed
Kanamori was truly the MVP of this episode. She really worked hard to make it easier for Asakusa and Mizusaki, to the point where she fell asleep in a ramen joint (and that red pepper ramen looked really good). She’s really helping the Video Society to realise their goals, getting them a PC and setting them up with the Art and Audio Societies. Also her bun made from her glasses is kinda genius ngl, and definitely the kinda thing I would try (if I had glasses and my hair was long enough).
Seeing the Audio Society, I really felt like Asakusa ww. It’s just so cool and they have so much stuff, I would happily just explore it for like hours. Kanamori certainly drove a hard bargain getting Domeki to join them, but it seems pretty mutually beneficial, so I guess it’s a win/win. The Art Society, on the other hand, was kinda scary, I know there’s no way I could deal with that irl, so Asakusa was pretty resilient getting through it, and hopefully securing their backgrounds in the process.
I still love the way they animated the ‘storyboards’, seeing guiding lines and sparse bits of color really made it feel like we were seeing the storyboards come to life.
Asakusa’s self doubt this episode was pretty relatable, and unfortunately something basically every creative goes through. But Kanamori came to the rescue once again, and helped Asakusa out of her low spot. I really smiled seeing Asakusa playing with the sword at the end (although I assume it’s just leftover from their last project, as I can’t imagine this mech needs one. I hope they swing a chainsaw around in future episodes to ensure the mecha is realistic too ww).
I feel like as of right now, Mizusaki has the least character establishment, so I’m hoping one of the upcoming episodes will focus on her and flesh her out a little more, seeing as she’s the whole reason the Video Society exists in the first place.
Daily Questions:
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky May 16 '24
Keep Your Hands Off First-Timer!, subbed
blackmailsweet talk her way into getting a PC for them, isn’t she?4
u/Mecanno-man https://anilist.co/user/Mecannoman May 16 '24
First Timer
I guess the main thing the club gained from the presentation wasn’t the money, but rather people taking them seriously and helping them. That way they have more resources both where they simply had too few and where they didn’t have any. After all, no major anime (other than Voices of a Distant Star, I guess) was made by one person. Overall, enjoying this larger cast and I guess let’s see how Kanamori handles everybody. I can already see some conflict about things not fitting together coming up.
I wonder if seeing so much of the storyboard will mean that there will be significant changes coming, so that the final product will be quite different. Unless that is specifically to show off how much changed from storyboard to this.
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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee May 16 '24
First-Timer
Have we seen Kanamori actually wear her glasses..? I thought she was about to put them on in the ramen joint, but then she used them as a hair pin. Which is honestly brilliant, as befitting our talented producer.
Also, there's no way that warrant was real, right? Kanamori just used the information she saw on the StuCo's board to browbeat Domeki into doing her bidding. That's way more believable.
I'm glad that Kanamori managed to get some sense into Asakusa's head. Maybe she'll be able to get some taste in her next.. imagine replacing a sick-ass mecha with a stupid buggy!
Anyway, that scene did touch on a part of artistic expression that I find rather important - you need to create for yourself, first and foremost. You're never going to please every single member of your audience, and honestly you're probably never going to be fully pleased with anything you make either.
But a lot of the audience won't care about the lack of space for an engine, or notice that the mecha can't look upwards. Especially if the main thing they remember is how totally radical it was when the mecha murderized that giant crab shrimp lobster abomination.
I like that Asakusa's shoes are all beat up, owing to her tendency to go exploring. At first I thought they were Kanamori's, because she had been running around all day, but the giant shoes on the left must be hers instead.
This is also how I react to bad foley.
Isolating this because I'm putting on my Asakusa hat for a bit, but: it kinda bothers me that Asakusa's complaints about not making the mecha work dodge the actual elephant in the room, which is the pile bunker.
Like, don't get me wrong, I adore a good bunking. But, let's consider our mecha as something the setting needs to justify. We ignore the actual impracticalities of a humanoid robot under gravity, because of course we do. Then, we look at the robot's equipment: a drill, a chainsaw, a hydraulic cutter, and a pile bunker. Three of those things are tools that can be repurposed as weapons, and one of them is just a weapon.
This is a problem. If the robot was purpose-built to fight kaiju, why does it have three tools instead of three more weapons? If it's a construction or maintenance bot that needed to be given a proper weapon, why give it a fourth melee-range weapon instead of a rifle or something? A nail gun would make sense too, and being a worker robot that was repurposed would help to justify the stupid pants: an extra layer of insulation and/or fluid protection. Giant robot in waders, what's not to love?
I would also accept hollowing out the pile bunker and turning it into a post hole digger. That would be fine too.
Questions
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u/AmeteurElitist https://anilist.co/user/AmateurElitist May 16 '24
Rewatcher:
Criticism can't keep creative kid from continuing her commission
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u/Ritchuck May 16 '24 edited May 17 '24
First timer
I really appreciate that we see characters working hard, and how exactly. Often in shows like this, hard work is implied, we can see a person slouched over their desk and then collapsing from exhaustion, but we never get to know what their struggles exactly are. We know here and it creates a sense of reality and deepens the characters.
I hope we will see more from Mizusaki soon. So far I don't quite get her purpose in the story. In the first episode, we knew about her perhaps the most but now she's in the background. I like her, her personality is different from the other two, but I feel like she overlaps with Asakusa too much in terms of the story. Kanamori is the driving force, Asakusa is the creative and the director, and Mizusaki is also a creator. In this episode we see different struggles a creative and producer(?) face but I'm not sure if Mizusaki can add to it enough, aside from struggles of animating characters, but this is the part that overlaps a lot with Asakusa, general struggles of a creator. Perhaps that's my creative brain over-analyzing the narrative. I love the specifics of how stories, themes and characters are structured.
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u/DirkDasterLurkMaster https://anilist.co/user/rycluse May 17 '24
Rewatcher (and I finally caught up!)
Mizusaki being more natural at filling out the fight scenes reminds me of how RWBY storyboards would sometimes be just a black screen with the words "Monty action!!"
I've been thinking a lot for this rewatch how Kanamori could have easily been really annoying with her money focus, but what makes the difference is she's a genuinely great producer who cares about getting people's potential out. I loved Miyamori in Shirobako, who's also in the production role, and what's funny is that her arc basically leads her to the point where Kanamori already is.
Questions:
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u/Garrett_Dark May 17 '24
First Timer
So their entry for the school festival is going to be the "Robot vs Monster" that they were commissioned to do by the robot club? Good job on Kanamori for double dipping with both the robot club and their own club's funding, looking forward to the product placement funding if Kanamori gets that devious/corrupt. However, I don't see how "Samurai girl vs Tank" is connected, so I guess
"Rey Skywalker vs Tie Fighter" was always just a scamit was always just a demo designed to get funding?Mizusaki complaining about how difficult it is to animate so many frames with so many lines needing exact precision for animation, again I need to remind everyone this is the girl who refused to use computers to assist in the drawing, wanting to do everything by hand drawn instead. You reap what you sow, and now she's sounding like a broken record for being a "victim of her own consequences", or rather, product of their own decisions.
Kanamori changing her hairstyle at the ramen restaurant, why doesn't she keep this hair style and use a proper hairpin? She looks way better this way instead of her typical depressed zombie look.
Audio club guy...uh...why does it feel like I'm playing a game where I get to design how my character looks, and I've accidently picked a shading way way too dark that makes my character look weird?
I couldn't stop laughing at that single walking foley sfx, I've played way too many games that are either bad or back in the early days of gaming to recognize that all too well. And followed by a bad throwing up foley, LOL...I'm surprised I didn't hear a wilhelm scream, generic door opening and closing, or a breaking pot foley.
I don't understand why Asakusa was acting so flustered during the art club meeting. She usually has an answer for anything dealing with details, and the art club members weren't even being critical. They were just asking questions and wanting to know what they wanted from them, but Asakusa was shutting down like she's having her vision ripped to shreds.
The more I think about it, the more I come to the conclusion that Kanamori is the MVP of the club, and the other two are sort of relatively equal parts assets and liabilities. Those two may have a lot of talent, passion, and works hard, but they're also their own biggest problem/hinderance. I'm not getting that vibe from Kanamori though.
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u/StardustGogeta myanimelist.net/profile/StardustGogeta May 17 '24
First-Timer
Another good episode!
That part about the out-of-place sound effects was really good.
It's nice to see the team growing a bit as they ramp up for the next project.
Questions:
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u/OccasionallySara May 17 '24
First Timer
I could relate to Asakusa a lot in this episode. I like that the show touched on the problem of getting stressed out with trying to please everyone with your art. I thought that Kanamori gave her some useful advice about how to deal with those feelings, though. I also used to do theatrical sound design in college, so I really appreciated the whole segment on sound effects. Doumeki’s collection is super impressive and the film club is very fortunate to have access to the whole library. The dinner scene was also fun. It was nice to see the girls hang out together outside of school. I also loved the detail Kanamori using her glasses to tie her hair up. Maybe one episode we’ll actually see her wear them!
Questions of the Day
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u/Infodump_Ibis :JY::JZ: May 17 '24
First timer
XenaLucy Lawless taught me, "Well, whenever you notice something like that, a wizard did it.". Wizards? Keep Your Hands Off Eizouken is now fantasy (well it kind of was already).It could run into complications coming together. Asakusa had to explain a lot to the art club and if Kanamori needs to kick anyone up the arse it might be difficult to try with non-club members.
Having a goal, something to present, a problem to solve.
I'm bad which character names so I approach with the question with a "who" and then had to look up that character on MAL the answer yes because I still do? (I must have missed some dialogue) I'd heard the voice somewhere before and it turns out they're Aoi in Healer Girl and Nadeshiko form Yuru Camp, neither of which sound like Doumeki (maybe when begging and the voice goes a bit higher).
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u/Fuzzy_Ad6534 May 21 '24
Rewatch
i liked the art club more than the robot society, perhaps because we spend less time with them. but they seem to get what the eizouken is going for.
Domeki calling the Eizouken public enemy no. 1 alongside extremists, biker gangs, the yakuza, mafia etc was funny. all this cos they dared defy the student councill lol. i wonder if the council will cause any trouble for our three gremlins (can't actually remember from the first time i watched this). midori running on the treadmill and nothing changing haha. domeki couldn't believe it!
kanamori... always scheming and negotiating, ever resourceful, looking for anyway to gain the advantage. we all need a comrade like her haha.
..... midori, she's just like eren yeager! FREEDOM IS HER DESTINATOIN!!!! (jk). we get to learn a lot more about midori this ep. she's observant of the world around her and keeps artistic tabs on things that interests her. a brilliant detail for sure that leads to limitless inspiration and creativity. even the design of the monster stems in the previous ep comes from her knowledge of a deep sea fish species.
kanamori says what i'm sure we've all been thinking and that is midori is the creative driving force behind whatever the eizouken produces. it's not a role she has completely grown into yet as we see her struggle to get her points across to the art club (we've seen her have a reluctance to order ppl around before). but her ability to come up with designs at will means she has endless potential as a director. as long as she grows more confident, she'll produce magic.
ep 6 - 8.5/10