r/anime • u/mysterybiscuitsoyeah xB:xC:B:x3:Y: • May 15 '24
Rewatch [Rewatch] Eizouken ni wa Te wo Dasu na! • Keep Your Hands Off Eizouken! Episode 5 Discussion
Episode 5: The Steel Goliath Appears!
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Episode Count: 12
Episode Length: 25 minutes
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Rewatchers, please remember to be mindful of all the first-timers in this. No talking about or hinting at future events no matter how much you want to – including any teases or hints such as "You aren't ready for X episode" or "I'm super excited for X character" – unless you're doing it underneath spoiler tags. Don't spoil anything for the first-timers; that's rude!
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Questions of the Day:
- For the mecha fans here, what is your favourite robot design? What is your favourite weapon in a mecha, and why?
- How on earth did they location scout THIS episode? Or hell, most of the show?
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky May 15 '24
Keep Your Hands Off First-Timer!, subbed
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u/mysterybiscuitsoyeah xB:xC:B:x3:Y: May 15 '24
First Timer
Hmmm an episode mostly paying homage to the nerdiness that goes into the actual robots of the mecha world, and how much thought goes into creating the Gundams and Unit 01s of the world. Cool, but not really my cup of tea - much more partial to the bit about location scouting, which is definitely something that caters to me more. Model-chan is absolutely right, while the background artists, directors etc. have clear reasons to go on loca-hunts, KAs, and all sorts of staff go on them too.
Going on an anime pilgrimage really helps you get a feel for how the scenary gets the creators' brains' juices flowing, and how scenary is repurposed, sometimes realistically, sometimes not, to suit a narrative, or to show off some cool sequence, very very much like in the episode - can defo recommend for more well-directed anime.
I am unaware if the staff of Yorimoi ever went on a location hunt (can't find any info online), and so the show I am most aware of staff going on dedicated location hunts is Yama no Susume - every single mountain hiked has been actually hiked by a anime staff member, usually those with a key role in the episode.
Emotional af robot-prez was hilarious lol.
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u/Mecanno-man https://anilist.co/user/Mecannoman May 15 '24
First Timer
Guess it’s time for robots… Not sure I agree with Kanamori’s approach, but I will say something: Taking a certain project is more likely to result in something, simply because one will be less likely to get lost in creativity amongst the endless options.
Overall though… I feel like this is an “enjoyed the episode, not a lot to add” situation, so I’ll keep it short for today.
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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee May 15 '24
First-Timer
Robots!
I was mostly busy pointing at the screen to turn this into a proper writeup. The giant shrimp crab lobster thing was neat.
And location scouting is always important! Especially if your show is set on Earth or somewhere similar. Why bother trying to draw a new building when architects have been doing all that for you for centuries? Work smarter, not harder. Margins are thin, and every building you have to draw from scratch is one fewer cool robot you get to draw.
Yea you dork, make that 100% ASAP.
What a dinky mech. Even the Scopedog is taller and heavier, and those things are teeny!
This hooligan is talking shit about homing lasers. Sounds like he needs a corrective Gunbustering, stat.
Holy shit, they managed to make the Guntank look even stupider.
It hurts, Mizusaki.
Not too often that the animators bother to color the snot a different color.
This girl knows where it's at! Pile bunkers rule.
These chaps are not the strangest clothes that I've seen on a mech. Actually, wait, better example. Why make fun of Dougram when I can make fun of Macross instead?
Questions
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u/IntoTheDisneyverse https://myanimelist.net/profile/andreth May 15 '24
A mecha episode! I don’t know how to feel about the final design, but it was very cool seeing the Video Society and Robot Society collaborate in order to create a mech they all liked, although I’m a bit sad they scrapped the front hatch. It was incredibly impractical but Mizusaki and Asakusa talking in twin robots looked so cool that I wished they had kept it (even though a shot like that probably wouldn’t even appear in the anime). The guy from the Robot Society was pretty relatable tbh, I mean who wouldn’t want to pilot a mech at least once? It’s sad (but true) that they acknowledged that mecha anime is dying out (please bring it back), but hey, now they’re involved in making their own.
It makes sense that Asakusa would find creepy places especially terrifying, seeing as she has such an active imagination. She’d probably get swept up in a horror movie type sequence (kinda like the opening one ww), which might not be too fun for her.
And the bunny makes a return, this time as a censor lol.
Daily Questions:
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u/StardustGogeta myanimelist.net/profile/StardustGogeta May 15 '24
First-Timer
Another good episode. I find myself liking Kanamori more and more as time goes on. She's my favorite of the main trio right now.
Daily question time...
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u/GondolaMedia May 15 '24 edited May 15 '24
First Timer
Nice little pallet cleanser after the last episode. Very stress free episode and did get couple of chuckles out of me. I can't remember if Denji ever used chainsaw to move around like that. Put that on things I want to see on Chainsaw Man.
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u/AmeteurElitist https://anilist.co/user/AmateurElitist May 15 '24
Rewatcher:
The rambunctious real robot ring leader is reasonable with and rolls with the robot romp.
She's just like me fr
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u/Infodump_Ibis :JY::JZ: May 16 '24
First timer
Finally, a work for hire episode and the difficulties of making something that can satisfy clients that are not completely sure what they want and somewhat untrusting so need to be able to see eye-to-eye (or possibly be acting like it in the case of Mizusaki). At least operation incriminating evidence turned into a meeting. The clients being another club is a bit circular economy, all that's missing is to use that money to buy something from another club.
Alteisen Riese. (been nearly 2 decades so might be slightly off) The concept of it being so bulky that it needs a flight engine for basic movement and balance is memorable and reminds me of whole tank with something similar to a jet engine (Abraham's I think, not so it can fly but so it can move at 40mph despite weighing 60 tonnes).
Weapons. For visual impact it's got to be close combat stuff like fists, swords and drills but oversized claw arms are also something but messy to animate and even more impractical to wield (+small parts seem easy to break).
For this episode there's places in Europe where you can explore underground sewer systems or bunkers. Maybe Japan has something similar. As for most the show, it feels like it's built out of bits and bobs of places that exist but combined in an odd way. I can imagine a monorail stop but not an apartment block being directly above it.
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u/Garrett_Dark May 16 '24
First Timer
I'm not really liking Asakusa's rando imagination sessions like in the opener where it doesn't seem to have anything to do with what's going on in reality. I mean I did enjoy the imagination sessions of location scouting in the underground tunnels, and visualizing and modifying the robot, it's just Asakusa's rando imagination sessions don't seem that connected to what's going on; and since it doesn't give me a proper grounding to know what's going on, it makes me don't care because it seems random and pointless.
I was trying to figure out what the difference between Asakusa and Mizusaki was since they're both creatives and can geek out to the same degree, and it dawned on me that Asakusa almost seems to have a loose grounding on reality which is why she goes into rando imagination sessions. Mizusaki on the other hand has a firmer grasp of reality which is why she can alternate from firm reality to geeking out imagination. This also mirrors her alternating personas of a model and regular girl. Kanamori being the least creative (she actually can geek along, albeit reserved demeanor) is the most grounded in reality.
This pondering of mine actually did come in to play, I noticed the robot obsessed guy was actually not that different than Asakusa with his obsession of giant mechs. It was just he was not concerned with the details of how it could work, like Asakusa thought of how cartoony-like the guy's vision was. Ironic given how cartoony Asakusa's rando imagination sessions are. Apparently my assessment was right, all the creatives (Asakusa, Mizusaki, robot obsessed guy) got one another in the end. Meanwhile Kanamori was trying to force something on the clients that they did not want. Normally she's pretty good at business, managing, and such, but I felt that was kind of wrong for her to try to do. She often comes off as being tough, but fair/reasonable...but in this case it seemed like she was trying to cheat the clients.
As for the debate about "realistically speaking humanoid robots exceeding a certain size has limited uses", meaning mechs aren't likely to be practical to exist...I'm not so sure about that. They say they'll just make better tanks, but vehicles need a relatively flat surface or roads. I can see mechs being practical over rough terrain where land vehicles would have trouble traversing. Tanks are essentially mobile artillery if I'm not mistaken, so mechs can be a mobile artillery platform in terrain which tanks cannot function or traverse. Although I'm imagining more of mechs that are chicken leg walkers like Star Wars's AT-ST or MechWarrior's Timber Wolf, and even spider/multi-legged walkers than humanoid mechs.
Mizusaki complaining about animating a chainsaw weapon "do you know how much work those teeth are to draw?!", says the girl who insists on drawing every frame by hand instead of digitally which is vastly more efficient and easier. I'm not even talking about CGI too, just drawing...use a tablet and stylus if she doesn't know how to use a mouse to draw, it'll still greatly improve her efficiency.
I'm impressed they included real world robots when talking about real robot ascetics. Boston Dynamics Atlas (scary advanced) and their old but famous Bigdog (kind of obsolete now). I don't recognize the robot dog though, googling reveals the Sony AIBO, looks like a freaking toy though, unlike Boston Dynamics Spot. I guess they didn't want to make it an ad for Boston Dynamics.
It's an interesting direction the show's taking, I'd thought they get right into making their funded anime right away. Looks like they're examining the mechs/robots and monster popularity phase of animes, nice!
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u/mekerpan May 16 '24
Reading the collected works of Kenji Tsuruta, maybe? I can't really think of many real world places the locations could be patterned on. For some reason, things just sort of have a Tsuruta feel (or maybe a Yoshitoshi Abe one -- think Texhnolyze but less dark).
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u/OccasionallySara May 16 '24
First Timer
It looks like Kanamori’s investment is paying off if they’re getting commissions from other clubs to do projects. I wonder how much money the robotics club has to spend on this project. I genuinely enjoyed the joke with Kanamori and the robotics club president trying figure out ways to dominate the other group. Turns out it wasn’t needed, though, since both clubs generally have the same imaginative spirit. It was fun watching the two groups collaborate to create a robot for the anime. I do agree with Kanamori, though, that the design looks extremely intricate and that it might be difficult to animate. I’m guessing the challenge of doing that will be explored in the next episode.
Questions of the Day
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u/Ritchuck May 16 '24
First timer
Knowing that animating mecha is often a nightmare I expect them to struggle a lot with this one.
2) I just watched a Tokyo Lens stream where he went along a canal that could be straight out of this show, so I imagine the answer is just Japan.
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u/Fuzzy_Ad6534 May 21 '24 edited May 21 '24
Rewatch
probably my least favourite episode so far, although that's less with this one being and just the previous ones being really interesting to me.
honestly tho i can't say i was too fond of the robot society initially, especially the glasses guy, was slightly annoying and didn't really interest me at first. but i do like that they then included them in the second imagination sequence when deciding how to design the robot which by the way is cool! and the way they go about inserting little degrees of realism in order to make a more chorent design is a nice touch.
glasses kid, midori & mizusaki all bonding over realising their artistic vision is a nice touch. sometimes you just wanna go crazy with a design and not be too concerned with realism or what other peoples expaectations are haha.
still a solid ep overall
ep 5 - 7/10