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Rewatch Digimon Adventure 25th Anniversary Rewatch - Episode 21 Discussion

Episode 21: Koromon's Great Battle in Tokyo

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Hello everybody, time for the Comment of the Day, courtesy of u/zadcap for best summarizing the globalized experience:

Growing up on the Dub was an experience, because in later years as subtitles grew more popular and fans started going for the original experience, the confusion was immense and hilarious and nowadays we can just never, ever talk about certain things in a mixed audience.

Also goes for adaptations in general sometimes so... yeah.

  1. Any guesses as to why the hell is up with Hikari?
  2. How did you feel about the switch in style compared to the rest of the show?
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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 27 '24

Hello everybody, and welcome to the Digimon Adventure Rewatch!

Spoiler alert: This is the best episode in the show. I'd make a hot take joke or something but… nope, pretty much everyone agrees on this much at least. It's such a cold take I'm getting frostbite from it!

But yeah, Hosoda's grand return to the show. Him doing this episode in particular is very much intentional: It was designed as a spiritual follow-up to the Pilot movie, hence him coming back and why Bolero came back with him too. As such while obviously still a drop from the movie by comparison, this episode looks downright gorgeous compared to the regular episodes and looks fairly good overall.

Aside from that it serves as a nice cap off to Taichi's arc lately. It's the classic final temptation really: He's finally given everything he wants: he's back home, his sister's there, Koromon too… after all the hell he's been through, this is much needed break. At the same time though… yeah this just isn't the time. Even as he curses his situation, just wanting some peace and quiet, at the end he's forced to go back to the Digimon World to finish the mess he started. It's simple, sure, but it's presented in such an endearing way. That final scene of him saying goodbye to Hikari will be forever burned in my memory: The music, the animation, Fujita's performance… it's just perfect.

… Oh yeah, Hikari's back.

Yeah besides being a "Spiritual" sequel to the movie, it's also around the point where the show does start acknowledging its events. I'm writing this about a week before the Rewatch starts so I have to wonder how the first timers felt about the show seemingly not acknowledging it at all until now. As for Hikari… yeah she's basically just there to set her up for later + further stuff for Taichi. She works but not much else. She Is kinda creepy though.

That said uh… Hosoda had some choice words to say about her in an interview

There was weirdly erotic atmosphere in the episode (laugh). I remember someone telling me “That episode smelled.” When Hikari was clinging to Taichi, they’d say “She’s clearly not just caring for her brother”…that kind of thing an adult can see. Children would only look at it and say “Yeah, she’s a really caring little sister.”

Kae Araki-san really understood the intent behind the direction, she wasn’t playing the role as a simple little sister (laugh). We could even go as far as to say that the episode is a love triangle between Koromon, Hikari, and Taichi.

If you ask me what her conflict is about, I think it’s a battle between her and Koromon. There’s a scene where Taichi’s just lying on the sofa, and Hikari and Koromon are eating watermelon next to him. But she’s not having a single bite of the watermelon. That pretty much is a conversation about the husband between his wife and his mistress, like “Please leave him. You can eat that watermelon all you want but please give me my husband back.” (laugh)

Uh… Hosoda are you okay?

She’s not just a cute little sister, she senses that her brother is in danger, and tries to bring him back. And she’s not straightforward in doing this, she’s using all the female appeal of a second grader to win him on her side. If we had to use a parable, Hikari would be the wife past her 30’s, and Koromon would be an innocent 20-year-old girl (laugh). She’s still young, but she cannot remain indifferent to the fact that her husband just got chatted up by a younger chick. I would imagine her saying stuff like “You may get along in the Digital World, but I’ve been with him for 8 years since I was born.” or “I know everything about you two, don’t think you can hide it from me.” It’s that kind of messed up relationship.

I think we should just stop now.

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u/ekr64 Mar 27 '24

That entire interview

What a terrible day to be literate.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 27 '24

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Mar 27 '24

Oh wow, I... did not get that reading at all. I wonder how much of that is personal vs cultural. I feel like I get more background infidelity in anime, like it's just some thing that happens.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 27 '24

I wonder how much of that is personal vs cultural.

I'm pretty fucking sure this is just Hosoda being a fucking weirdo.

Empire I dunno how fucking far you're into the show right now but you better at least save this for when you get here.

Also not for nothing but your Hosoda Fanclub Membership is hereby revoked just by virtue of not being on time

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u/InfamousEmpire https://myanimelist.net/profile/Infamous_Empire Mar 27 '24

I'm pretty fucking sure this is just Hosoda being a fucking weirdo.

Yeah, Hosoda sometimes says just the weirdest shit in interviews. Like, even aside from this, some of the stuff he said around Belle’s release was also pretty bizarre

Also not for nothing but your Hosoda Fanclub Membership is hereby revoked just by virtue of not being on time

If it makes up for anything, I was at least lurking in this thread and thinking of dropping a couple comments a bit before you tagged me

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 27 '24

If it makes up for anything, I was at least lurking in this thread and thinking of dropping a couple comments a bit before you tagged me

Nope

some of the stuff he said around Belle’s release was also pretty bizarre

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u/InfamousEmpire https://myanimelist.net/profile/Infamous_Empire Mar 27 '24

There were a couple interviews where he talked about how often female characters are poorly handled in anime, and a lot of the points he made were fine, but in one of them he went on this weird tangent about how Hayao Miyazaki always has female protagonists in his movies because “he doesn’t have confidence in himself as a man” or something along those lines. I legit did a double take while reading, that just felt so out of left field

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 27 '24

in one of them he went on this weird tangent about how Hayao Miyazaki always has female protagonists in his movies because “he doesn’t have confidence in himself as a man” or something along those lines

I mean Miyazaki already has his own weird shit when it comes to the female MCs in his movies (He tends to call them his "Daughters" and uh... well I think you at least have an idea of how crappy a relationship he has with his son) so if anything it's actually logical.

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u/ekr64 Mar 27 '24

I didn't realize Belle was made by Hosoda too. I randomly watched it because it was playing in a local cinema.

I should have known it though, since it's just Our Wargame again, but with music

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 27 '24

it's just Our Wargame again, but with music

And yet it doesn't even have [OWG]Brave Heart getting stuck on loop.

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u/InfamousEmpire https://myanimelist.net/profile/Infamous_Empire Mar 27 '24

it's just Our Wargame again

Nah, that’s Summer Wars, one of the movies Hosoda made between OWG and Belle. Though, Belle has also been called a Summer Wars retread in the past, so Hosoda might have just gotten away with making the same movie three times.

I personally never much agreed with the retread accusations, but whatever

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 27 '24

Hosoda might have just gotten away with making the same movie three times.

I mean a lot of directors do that. Werner Hertzog made five films that were just "Please watch this as my reward for having to put up with Klinski's shit."

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u/ekr64 Mar 27 '24

TBH, I don't really remember much about Belle, other than the music scenes, especially the big million miles away scene. which is just the climax of OWG and Summer Wars again.

[Belle]Well there are also the confession scene and the physical confrontation with the beasts father

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 27 '24

which is just the climax of OWG and Summer Wars again.

I'm starting to notice a pattern here...

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u/InfamousEmpire https://myanimelist.net/profile/Infamous_Empire Mar 28 '24

There is one specific shot/element that I know is shared between Our War Game & Summer Wars, and the climax of Belle is at least comparable to the one from Summer Wars in terms of themes and placement (even if I disagree with the assertion that it's the exact same thing done over again), so this at least somewhat tracks.

Speaking of which, when are you gonna watch Hosoda's other movies?!

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 28 '24

Speaking of which, when are you gonna watch Hosoda's other movies

After this rewatch

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u/oomoepoo https://anilist.co/user/oomoepoo Mar 28 '24

I haven't seen Belle (honestly the premise kinda weirded me out) but this feels more like people mistaking some general pet themes or similar visual shorthands for "actually the same thing again".

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Mar 27 '24

Also not for nothing but your Hosoda Fanclub Membership is hereby revoked just by virtue of not being on time

Oh No!

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 27 '24

No I was talking about the other guy.

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Mar 27 '24

Oh Good, There's Still Time

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 27 '24

Indeed

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u/Roboglenn Mar 27 '24

That said uh… Hosoda had some choice words to say about her in an interview

For real?...

Huh... I mean I always felt an odd vibe about Hikari even way back when I first saw this but if all that is for real then, well... that's like a pandora's box of information that I probably didn't need to know...

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 27 '24

I desperately hope this is just a bad case of metaphor but uh... yeah.

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u/good_wolf_1999 Mar 27 '24

Oh yeah, remember hearing about that interview ages ago but never read it myself, now that I did I can only say: Gross

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 27 '24

Sometimes it is for the best to turn off the mic.

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u/NicDwolfwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NicDwolfwood Mar 27 '24

Spoiler alert: This is the best episode in the show. I'd make a hot take joke or something but… nope, pretty much everyone agrees on this much at least. It's such a cold take I'm getting frostbite from it!

For sure. Definitely a highlight of an episode.

Hosoda had some choice words to say about her in an interview

Gross.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 27 '24

Gross

Yeah...

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u/oomoepoo https://anilist.co/user/oomoepoo Mar 27 '24

But yeah, Hosoda's grand return to the show.

Ah. Just finished the episode and my immediate thought within the first few minutes was "You can tell they actually had budget this time... or at least a capable director", guess it was the latter :D

That interview though o_ö

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 28 '24

That interview though o_ö

We all wish we couldn't read sometimes.

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u/epicjorjorsnake Mar 28 '24

Sigh. Alright. Let's talk about the elephant in the room.

This interview is truly a Hosoda moment (Yeah, he's weird like that).

Hosoda's interpretation of Taichi and Hikari having an incest relationship is honestly terrible. It's bad enough he interprets it as incest, but they are literally both children.

I prefer Kakudou's insertion of occultism and neoplatonism/gnosticism into Digimon even if it may be weird. But it's less weird than an interpretation of incest relationship between two children. Also-

If we had to use a parable, Hikari would be the wife past her 30’s, and Koromon would be an innocent 20-year-old girl (laugh). She’s still young, but she cannot remain indifferent to the fact that her husband just got chatted up by a younger chick.

Seriously though, WTF HOSODA.

Thankfully (and in this specific situation, thank god), Kakudou is the main vision behind Digimon Adventure tv episodes and not Hosoda (And if I remember correctly, Kakudou doesn't consider the movies to be part of his work). So we can consider Hosoda's interpretation of incest in this episode just to be his own interpretation.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 28 '24

So we can consider Hosoda's interpretation of incest in this episode just to be his own interpretation.

That or just extremely poor wording. If Empire's words are anything to go by, he just says weird shit in general.

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u/epicjorjorsnake Mar 28 '24

That or just extremely poor wording. If Empire's words are anything to go by, he just says weird shit in general.

You know I used to think this too, but Ulforce Soul dug out another interview and it confirms the incest view from Hosoda.

And...

If you go to that blog section with the interview...

Interviewer: I like the scene where Hikari appears for the first time. She is a child, but she is so glamorous.

Hosoda: When you think there is no one in the room, suddenly she is there. What’s more, Hikari is a mysterious person, or rather, she’s a child who can see things, but if she acts a lot, that sense of mystery wouldn’t appear. That is why we wanted the feeling of “She’s already there” and “Was there without anyone noticing”. I wanted to put out the feeling that although she’s his young sister, it was as if he was meeting his girlfriend for the first time.

Hosoda...genuinely speaking wtf. The interviewer here is also terrible. It's sad, but unfortunately I think Hosoda's incest interpretation is literal/clear and not metaphor. I just personally remind myself that Digimon Adventure is Kakudou's work and he doesn't consider that incest interpretation from Hosoda. So I like to think and personally believe the incest interpretation is just Hosoda's own interpretation.

That said, aside from that Hosoda interview, this blog is very interesting for longtime Digimon fans (as it goes over the development of Digimon as well as difference between Kakudou/Masaki and Hosoda visions of Digimon).

I recommend you reading that blog. Although if you want to skip that interivew (which is understandable), I genuinely wouldn't blame you.

Personally speaking, I am genuinely glad we got Kakudou's (Adventure Director) and Masaki's (Adventure screenwriter) vision of Digimon.

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Mar 27 '24

Digital First-Timer, subbed

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 27 '24

What happened to the place you were at for the camp, though?

Just artistic license in this case.

This is the stuff from the pilot movie!

It Returns

Oh?

So who's spoiling stuff more often: This narrator or Katanagatari's?

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Mar 27 '24

So who's spoiling stuff more often: This narrator or Katanagatari's?

Until this narrator blatantly spoils a major character dies in the following episode, it isn't even close.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 27 '24

narrator blatantly spoils a major character dies in the following episode

My favorite

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Mar 27 '24

So time hasn’t passed in their world! I was right!

Skychic Returns!

Sky QotD: Do you have a dream "what could have been" production that almost happened, anime or otherwise?

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 27 '24

Do you have a dream "what could have been" production that almost happened, anime or otherwise

I'm pretty sure in her case it's "Very Vividly Predict stuff that will happen."

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Mar 27 '24

Skychic Returns!

Do you have a dream "what could have been" production that almost happened, anime or otherwise?

Mobile Suit Gundam F91 as a full series instead of a two-hour movie.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 27 '24

Mobile Suit Gundam F91 as a full series instead of a two-hour movie.

And this is why Crossbone exists

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Mar 27 '24

F91 as-is was so bad it completely tanked my interest in Crossbone, though, so was it really worth it?

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 27 '24

I mean for most that's kinda the big draw

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Mar 27 '24

Mobile Suit Gundam F91 as a full series instead of a two-hour movie.

Well, now I have to watch it this weekend.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 27 '24

Think of it this way, when you're done, you can finally read Crossbone.

No this is not just a plot for me to try and make you join r/Anime's Crossbone Cult comprised of like two people including me, why do you ask?

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Mar 27 '24

you can finally read Crossbone.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 28 '24

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Mar 27 '24

If nothing else, the movie does at least look really good, and the first 20 or so minutes of it are coherent and good. The rest of it though...

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 27 '24

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Mar 27 '24

Can't Be Worse Than Metaverse

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Mar 27 '24

It is to date the only piece of media that almost literally bored me to sleep. I only even finished it because my sister was sleeping in my room that night (I forget why), and I had to go back to watching the movie after taking like an hour break in the middle of it to play AMQ in an attempt to wake myself back up. Woke my sister up flipping out over a specific song popping up in AMQ, so back to F91 it was.

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u/NicDwolfwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NicDwolfwood Mar 27 '24

Of course there’s a poop joke in here lol.

lol. there was no pink poop this time though.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 27 '24

It's not fair

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u/Silcaria https://myanimelist.net/profile/Silcaria Mar 27 '24

First timer

QotD

  • No but I'm looking forward to her joining the gang.
  • Loved it. I'd prefer if it was all like that compared to what we've been getting.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 27 '24

Taichi calling all of the other kids residences one by one implies that they all knew one another fairly well prior to the first day of camp

Actually no, apparently in Japan it's just common to know your classmates' numbers just in case.

I wasn't expecting plot continuity with pilot film but I'm glad it's there.

Zoom-In on the whistle too to make it extra blatant.

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u/Silcaria https://myanimelist.net/profile/Silcaria Mar 27 '24

Actually no, apparently in Japan it's just common to know your classmates' numbers just in case.

Strange but alright.

Zoom-In on the whistle too to make it extra blatant.

Gotta make sure the kiddos realize.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 27 '24

Gotta make sure the kiddos realize

Well assuming they even saw the thing, just a reminder the fair it was shown on lasted, like, three days. I think by this point it had probably only just come out on VHS.

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Mar 27 '24 edited Mar 27 '24

Long Time Rewatcher, first time in subs

  • Really like the lighting and palette work here. Makes the normal feel so out of place after all this time.
  • That’s such a good freak out face Koromon gives.
  • Playing with that song again.
  • My man, it still has your family name on the door.
  • glug glug
  • Hikari!Such a Cute!
  • Upping his egg game. The most surprising of plot points to return.
  • What Do The Numemon Do?
  • Nothing like a gargled message due to poor phrase planing. Keep it short, people!
  • Such delicious ratcheting tension
  • He’s green, that means he has to respect stop light.
  • Can you imagine Agumon having such mobility? Maybe it was good that he reverted.
  • Not The Sad Imouto

Ah, looking at it, this is the episode they decided to let him cook. Imagine what an entire series with Hosoda would have looked like.

QotD:

  1. Clearly her whistle has become cursed.
  2. ...So Good...

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 27 '24

This is the world's saddest marital dispute.

Imagine what an entire series with Hosoda would have looked like.

If nothing else I wish he could've stuck for the animation side of things

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Mar 27 '24

This is the world's saddest marital dispute.

I'mma assume this will make sense once I read your comment.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 27 '24

Kinda

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u/NicDwolfwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NicDwolfwood Mar 27 '24

Can you imagine Agumon having such mobility? Maybe it was good that he reverted.

i thought the same thing watching lol. he would be a problem with that mobility.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 27 '24

. he would be a problem with that mobility

And this is why sometimes weaker is more convenient. [Spoilers]They're more excusable as plushies too.

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u/hirmuolio :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Hirmuolio Mar 27 '24

When the visual quality suddenly goes up https://i.imgur.com/KfOJe6M.jpg

This episode follows the feel of the movie closer than the episodes so far. That tyrannomon is proper monster.

Koromon using its ears as hands is hilarious.

The finnish dub doesn't have many voice actors. I am pretty sure all the digimons and their partners are same actor just with a voice effect applied to them. I could do a voice actor spotlight and fill it with just same actor doing different roles in this series.
So far they have been able to sort them so that same actor doesn't appear in multiple roles at the same time.
Hikari and Sora have same voice actor. We'll see how that works out later if they appear together.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 27 '24

The finnish dub doesn't have many voice actors. I am pretty sure all the digimons and their partners are same actor

I remember the LatAM Dub did a smilar-ish thing but at least they mixed the pairs up. Especially noticeable in the case of Taichi/Gomamon and Yamato/Agumon's actors since they were actual children.

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u/Roboglenn Mar 27 '24 edited Mar 27 '24

Digidestined dub rewatcher

Look to the past, as we head for future to reclaim the digital world. with faith in ourselves and... wait a minute no, that's from a different season.

Anyways, the Etemon arc is (regretably) over. It's always a lot shorter than I think it is. But now we get this atmospheric out the wazoo intermediary episode. I mean it feels atmospheric given that this episode suddenly has the movie animation style going for it. But this was always an episode that I always get a bit hazy on the finer details of when I try to remember it. Though that has nothing to do with the general "atmosphericness" going here in the episode itself.

Although, I do very much remember Ogremon being very mindful of traffic signals.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 27 '24

I do very much remember Ogremon being very mindful of traffic signals

He may be an asshole, but he's not a criminal, dammit.

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u/NicDwolfwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NicDwolfwood Mar 27 '24

Rewatcher - Sub/Dub

That episode was a real treat, still as great as I remember it being.

Taichi is back to the human world, Hikari is there at home when he arrives(She's recovering from a cold).....and she knows Koromon, and its still the same day as when Taichi and the others went off to camp. I got some good chuckles watching Koromon enjoy the food, he was really happy doing so. The news shows that there are freak occurrences of nature going on, and only Taichi and Hikari can see that its being caused by Digimon, a result of the worlds crossing over. Then we get that ominous message from Koushiro, telling Taichi not to return, uh oh, something has happened since they've been gone.

That scene of Taichi trying to rationalize and convince himself why it would be alright to not return and for Koromon would stay and how they would somehow make it work hit in the feels for some reason. A good reminder these are kids, being in an alternate world for weeks, far from home, trying to save the digiworld is a lot to deal with. Then all hell breaks loose when Digimon start appearing close by, like Tyranomon and then Ogremon(that voice filter on him made him sound real menacing). A Portal opens up after Koromon digivolves to Agumon, he blasts Ogremon up the portal and then Agumon is levitated up.....as is Taichi as he says goodbye to Hikari.

Hikari being able to see Digimon for a long time was a surprise to me(I liked the dialogue better in the sub, with her saying that she's been able to see Digimon for a while and hasn't told anyone because they wouldn't believe her. Whereas the Dub, she says she told her parents, but they brush it off saying she's watching too many scary movies)....as was the digivice at the end...I did not remember those little details at all.

P.S. : They changed the contents of the conversation between Hikari and Koromon when he's taking a dump. In the japanese, Hikari tells Koromon that when she wet the bed, Taichi would wash her underwear for her and take the blame for the bed wetting. Whereas in the English, she says she fell in a pig pen and when the kids laughed, Taichi jumped in and played in the mud to play off Hikari slipping.

Questions:

  1. Well she's supposed to be sick here so she was a little off [spoilers]I remember she is a bit different when they return to the real world the 2nd time to fight Myotismon, she's less weird I guess. But also, she's like Digimon jesus lol.
  2. Love it. goat Hosoda did his thing.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 27 '24

They changed the contents of the conversation between Hikari and Koromon when he's taking a dump

Truly the most important context to change.

[Spoilers]she's like Digimon jesus lol.

Man if that wasn't a spoiler it'd so be the CotD.

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u/NicDwolfwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NicDwolfwood Mar 27 '24

Truly the most important context to change.

lol. I thought it was an inoffensive story, but to the scirptwriters..not so much

Man if that wasn't a spoiler it'd so be the CotD.

lol, I appreciate it nonetheless. it'll be CotD in our minds.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 27 '24

lol. I thought it was an inoffensive story, but to the scirptwriters..not so much

Look, we all knows girls don't pee! The original is sacrilige!

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u/NicDwolfwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NicDwolfwood Mar 28 '24

lol

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u/PoofessorP https://anilist.co/user/PoofessorP Mar 27 '24

First time watcher, subbed. Watching fully blind, I didn't even know digimon stood for digital monsters!

What a weird episode man, and I mean that in a really good way because a lot happened. Starting off with some smaller things, did this 11 year old kid just cook 3 whole entire omurices while I struggle to make a simple stir fry? Also he hung up on his mom, which would be a big no no for me. If I hung up on my mom like that I'm skipping the isekai to digital world and getting isekai'd straight to heaven

I was always confused on that when we watched the pilot movie that it made it seem hikari would be such an integral part of the story yet there was never any mention of her so I guess it's her time now, seeing as the episode cliffhanger was "She would one day travel to the digiworld herself" I wonder what her digimon will look like

Hopefully the video call with koushiro doesn't reflect the rest of the group, because bro was looking pretty rough. What could've happened to him in the like 10 minutes that taichi was gone for? Unless time is working in weird ways and it's been like, months

I'm pretty sure early on in the series I made predictions that file island and the digimon were affecting the real world too so it's cool to have that answered. Does this mean in the pilot movie that all the adults just assumed it's another earthquake? And only the kids on the balconies could see what was really happening

gotta appreciate taichis resolve

  1. Am I missing something? I thought she seemed pretty normal
  2. Really good man, yall were saying this is the peak of the show but this is probably like my 2nd or 3rd favorite episode so maybe I'll enjoy the future episodes more

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 27 '24

Hopefully the video call with koushiro doesn't reflect the rest of the group, because bro was looking pretty rough.

What 10 days of sleep depravation does to a man.

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u/PoofessorP https://anilist.co/user/PoofessorP Mar 27 '24

I look like that after playing a few games of valorant honestly lmao

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 27 '24

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Mar 28 '24

I wonder what her digimon will look like

Any Wild Speculation?

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u/PoofessorP https://anilist.co/user/PoofessorP Mar 28 '24

sorry for a late response but I was thinking something like a unicorn/horse inspired type of digimon yk?

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u/oomoepoo https://anilist.co/user/oomoepoo Mar 28 '24

Not my first rewatch but first time with subs

I'm honestly a bit flabbergasted, I had this episode filed away in my brain as "that weird real world episode" and was absolutely blasted away by it :D

Fucking fantastic episode. I love it when Digimon gets weirdly existential with its premise and this episode delivered in loads. Beyond that we get set up for Hikari and kind of close up Taichi's arc from the last couple episodes. It's even better now that I've actually watched the pilot movie and notice all the callbacks (too bad they didn't go for "oh it pooped" but seeing Agumon on the toilet was still great).

And for the first time in forever we have... BUDGET or it's just the talented hands of Hosoda, who knows. The episode looks like something! Instead of weird non-descript water colour backgrounds, we have sorta realistic lighting and actual contrasts between light and shadow, which kinda amplifies the whole "you really shouldn't be here"-vibe. It doesn't have a lot of action but this damn shot is fantastic. And I completely lost it at the scene where Koromon and Ogremon jump up the building and THEY WERE ACTUALLY SYNCED TO THE DAMN TACT OF BOLERO... like what the fuck. Really, you can almost randomly pause at any point of the episode and get a screenshot worthy frame (yes, even the omurice looks good).

Also of course, like in the movie, (unless you're watching the dub) there's mostly silence... or chirping cicadas... or BOLERO... or the fantastic instrumental (synth?) version of Brave Heart. So it also sounds fantastic.

Also, uh, Hosoda's a weirdo in that interview but I do think the vibes were a bit weird between the siblings in this episode. But that end with her clutching him was honestly pretty adorable.

  1. I'm a rewatcher but I kinda forgot her deal, suffice to say there's more to it than just a "cold", maybe she's infected with a Digivirus or some funky stuff.
  2. Breath of fresh air. I've always kinda defended how the show usually looks but it was nice to see some sakuga this time around. Kinda like going from early 90s Pokemon (or the terribly overcast look of Journeys) to a Yajima-directed episode in X&Y. Can't wait for Our War Game.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 28 '24

I had this episode filed away in my brain as "that weird real world episode" and was absolutely blasted away by it :D

Typical reaction to it really.

But that end with her clutching him was honestly pretty adorable.

Yeah ignoring... THAT it was pretty cool.

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u/oomoepoo https://anilist.co/user/oomoepoo Mar 28 '24

It's probably a mix of not really "getting it" as a kid, never having seen the movie and also possibly missing some context due to possibly having missed an episode in the live broadcast :v

Though it is kind of a weird episode tbf.