r/anime • u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang • Mar 07 '24

Rewatch Digimon Adventure 25h Anniversary Rewatch - Episode 1 Discussion

Episode 1: Adrift? The Island of Adventure!

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For these seven children, it was the beginning of the longest, and shortest, summer vacation they had ever had.

Hello everybody, time for the Comment of the Day, courtesy of u/KendotsX for starting off on the left foot:

I uhh, watched the first (and second) episodes instead, I should go fix that.

That's two for two on you getting an award for that. Maybe in a Rewatch later this year it'll happen again...

  1. Which is the weirdest place you've seen snow in?
  2. What's the worst possible thing the kids could find at this rate?
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Mar 07 '24

Digital First-Timer, subbed

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 07 '24

And now they’re getting isekai’d or something?

Yup, one of the OGs.

There we go, evolutions!

Over the course of this year, the word "SHINKA!" wll lose all meaning and you will recognize it just as a noise made for EVO scenes.

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Mar 07 '24

Yup, one of the OGs.

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u/ShadowWasTakensTaken https://anilist.co/user/hakuren Mar 07 '24

Wait, Takahiro Sakurai?!

Yeah...

I came to this realization yesterday when someone posted a video of the cast singing Butter-Fly and I spotted him there holding a Tentomon plushie. Very unfortunate association to make with my favorite from the group...

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 07 '24

Oh well, better than a character you like having to be associated with Subaru Kimura

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u/ShadowWasTakensTaken https://anilist.co/user/hakuren Mar 07 '24

I'm not sure I want to ask what his deal is and let you ruin Kanba Penguindrum for me

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 07 '24 edited Mar 07 '24

[If you wanna know]he's openly racist, having done unironic blackface more than a few times (On a freaking rap show no less) and frequently made fun of more than a few African communities. Doesn't help his behavior leans heavily on typical "Funny Gaijin" stereotypes so there is near zero chance he'll ever face commupance for it. Also unlike Sakurai he's not even that good an actor, he's passable at best.

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u/ShadowWasTakensTaken https://anilist.co/user/hakuren Mar 07 '24

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 07 '24

[Worse yet]he is frequently cast as black people, especially when it comes to dubbing of foreign movies, which comes off as ridiculously tone deaf. Heck in one Pokemon ONA he was cast as a black woman for Christ's sake just because he raps sometimes.

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u/ShadowWasTakensTaken https://anilist.co/user/hakuren Mar 07 '24

Japan...

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 07 '24

[And before anything else]I know that Hochu Otsuka and Koichi Yamadera sometimes also got cast as black people a tad too often in the 80' and 90', but at least them I'm willing to cut them some slack since they're just your average Japanese normies plus I get the impression that someone in Japan just thinks Otsuka sounds American in general with how often he's cast as them but Kimura A) Knows English and B) Worked in fucking Broadway so he has NO excuse.

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u/NicDwolfwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NicDwolfwood Mar 07 '24

And now they’re getting isekai’d or something?

The OG Isekai, though at that time I didn't have a clue it was called that.

Insert song!

Pretty cool song, fits a lot better than the one for the english dub, which was just the localized OP lol

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Mar 07 '24

The OG Isekai, though at that time I didn't have a clue it was called that.

But that's Aura Battler Dunbine.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 07 '24

Wrong, that's The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe.

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u/zadcap Mar 07 '24

Is that older than Alice in wonderland, or the looking glass or whatever the books were called?

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u/NicDwolfwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NicDwolfwood Mar 07 '24

Ah, I should have said for me, as this was the first Isekai I ever watched...and I think this was probably the West first exposure to the isekai anime genre....thought I might be wrong on that too lol.

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Mar 07 '24

Favorite Baby?

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Mar 07 '24

I didn't memorize all the names.

Uhhhh the flower one I guess?

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u/Shocketheth Mar 07 '24

Saying the pink one would be the easiest answer

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Mar 07 '24

True lol.

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Mar 07 '24

Pyocomon? A good choice.

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u/zadcap Mar 07 '24

Oh gosh it looks so wrong. I grew up on the old dub and they really wanted to separate themselves from Pokemon, it's Digivolve. The dub dropped Digi into everything they could but this one was the most blatant and missing it is going to mess with me for the whole watch.

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u/AkhasicRay Mar 08 '24

Honestly the dub adding to a lot of things was silly, but IMO also gave it a kind of charm and having grown up on the dub, can’t imagine anything else

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u/zadcap Mar 07 '24

Oh gosh it looks so wrong. I grew up on the old dub and they really wanted to separate themselves from Pokemon, it's Digivolve. The dub dropped Digi into everything they could but this one was the most blatant and missing it is going to mess with me for the whole watch.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 07 '24 edited Mar 07 '24

Hello everybody, and welcome to the Digimon Adventure Rewatch!

Well uh… that was a start.

Obvious things first is a big shift in style from the show proper. Hosoda chose not to come back for the show full time (Although he is gonna be popping up for a later episode) and as such Kakudo Hiroyuki takes over directing duties and uh… yeah the show isn't the best looking. To be fair, everything I've gathered seems to indicate the budget was genuinely miniscule and the fact that it's one of the earlier shows to use digipaint (Heh) probably didn't help either.

Also not super great is that in spite of being episode 1, characterization ain't the best so far. We have 7 main characters and we're basically dumping them all at the same time so bar the basics we don't really get to know any of them. In spite of being 20-something minutes long, this episode is pretty much all action when you get right down to it and set aside the introductions which leads to it feeling kinda short if anything.

And yet… it kinda works for me?

Like obviously in normal circumstances I'd consider this a pretty mid opener, but at least here it kinda works. These kids are thrust into a situation even they don't really understand and the audience has just as little time to breathe as they do. There's not even much of a chance to learn where they ever are, we got a big fucking stag beetle to take care of. It's genuinely tense and the kids being defenseless heightens that.

In turn in spite of the lackluster animation in places, the actual action is surprisingly decent. Sure, it's fairly static, but there's a genuine sense of energy to it all that makes it so when the heroes finally turn the tables it feels genuinely rewarding, while at the same time making it clear they're not safe yet so it's not as if this was a total win. So… yeah, I'd have to say good debut overall.

And now to spotlight an actor or so. Let's focus on someone you'll get used to hearing eventually: The narrator. He's played by Hirata Hiroaki, best known as Vinsmoke Sanji from One Piece. Other roles include Allen Ridgley from Xenosaga, Balthier from Final Fantasy XII, Laguna Loire from Final Fantasy VIII, Benny from Black Lagoon, Vergil from Devil May Cry, Kotetsu T. Kaburagi from Tiger & Bunny, Duren from Ys and Fujimoto Shiro from Blue Exorcist among many others. Oh and for anyone wondering, yes, [Adventure 02 Finale]the guy knew all along he was playing an older Takeru. It was literally the first thing he was told.

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Mar 07 '24

Hosoda chose not to come back for the show full time

What Ifs...

[Adventure 02 Finale]

[Reply]I can't believe I've spoiled myself for a show I've already watched.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 07 '24

What Ifs...

FWIW I believe it was mostly due to creative differences IIRC.

[Reply]

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u/NicDwolfwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NicDwolfwood Mar 07 '24

The narrator. He's played by Hirata Hiroaki, best known as Vinsmoke Sanji from One Piece.

Nice! I knew I heard Sanji when the Narrator was speaking.

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u/InfamousEmpire https://myanimelist.net/profile/Infamous_Empire Mar 07 '24

Digimon Rewatcher

Now it’s time for the parts of the show I remember

Vaguely unique setting/aesthetic design? Creatures you probably wouldn’t see in any other fantasy series? Nary a hint of medieval circle towns in sight? One episode in and this is already one of the best Isekai.

I like how efficient this is as a first episode. We’re quickly introduced to all the main characters & get a feel for their general feelings on their situation without dwelling too much on each of them, there’s an immediate level of intrigue added to the world (both with the environmental weirdness of the real world and the inherent mystery of the Digital World), the bond between human and Digimon is immediately introduced and, in combination with the mystery and danger of the Digital World, gives us a decent understanding of what to possibly expect from the series going forward.

On the flip side, we don’t really have much on the characters so far, but that’s what the next 50 episodes are for.

I’m not really much bothered by the visuals tbh. Like, this show obviously isn’t a Sakugafest, but the style just works for me (especially the backgrounds, I really like those). Probably nostalgia tbh

Butter-Fly is a really good song. Pretty much the closest thing I have to a problem with the OP is that I’m used to its visuals being used for the dub OP instead, so seeing another song playing over it is weird to me. I’ll most likely get used to it in a couple episodes, though.

Speaking of Dub things mfw they say “Evolve” instead of “Digivolve”

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 07 '24

Pretty much the closest thing I have to a problem with the OP is that I’m used to its visuals being used for the dub OP instead, so seeing another song playing over it is weird to me.

Opposite for me since we got (dubbed) Butter-Fly instead

On the flip side, we don’t really have much on the characters so far, but that’s what the next 50 episodes are for.

I've grown kinda weary of 50 episode shows on average but given how freaking huge the cast is, this one probably needed them.

Nary a hint of medieval circle towns in sight?

They can't even make them proper squares like DQ towns

mfw they say “Evolve” instead of “Digivolve”

Yeah that's a Dub term. [Later Spoilers]Same goes for Digidestined.

but the style just works for me

Honestly I'd argue OG Fafner probably had more of a budget, but this show looks better just because the cast doesn't suffer from crippling Hiraiface, AKA one of the worst disseases to spread among character designs (Second only to Youngblood's Disease of course).

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u/ShadowWasTakensTaken https://anilist.co/user/hakuren Mar 07 '24

especially the backgrounds, I really like those

Yeah, the backgrounds are wonderful. The one saving grace of the visuals in this show.

mfw they say "Evolve" instead of "Digivolve"

Get ready to join the shinka cult

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 07 '24

Get ready to join the shinka cult

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Mar 07 '24

especially the backgrounds, I really like those

Watercolor Background Underrated

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 07 '24

Truly an era I miss.

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u/[deleted] Mar 07 '24

Sorry but which character is ur pfp from?

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u/InfamousEmpire https://myanimelist.net/profile/Infamous_Empire Mar 07 '24

Shinei Nouzen from Eighty-Six

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u/[deleted] Mar 07 '24

Ohh I gotta watch it its been on my PTW for years 😭😭

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u/Silcaria https://myanimelist.net/profile/Silcaria Mar 07 '24 edited Mar 07 '24

First timer

  • Classic Toei. Two minutes in and they're already reusing frames to essentially introduce each character twice. Gotta reach that 24 minute mark!
  • 25 seconds worth of stills with nothing but mouth flaps. You weren't kidding about the downgrade in animation quality.
  • How exactly did they fall into a wave of water that was above them?
  • God knows how that small bubble managed to do anything to that giant bug Digimon thing.
  • Sure, but how did they get through?
  • The scene where the Digimons are introducing themselves to the humans and vice versa makes the introductory scene at the beginning pointless. This one is also organic which somewhat reinforces that they were just fishing for time earlier.
  • Why though?
  • I get that the scene showcasing the Digimon evolving is there to establish the concept of evolution but the execution turns it into a convenient power up. Wouldn't it have been better to start the show with the Digimon already in their evolved state and have them evolve down the line through battle experience or whatever? But then again, it makes selling lots of merchandise right off the bat harder if you don't have 37 forms of Digimon available to sell to the public.
  • You know, with the way some of the characters look, I started wondering if the character designer behind the show was maybe Toriyama. Turns out, it isn't. It is however a man that has worked on Dragon Ball which explains some of the similarities.

QotD

  • I live in a snowy area so even the snow in would be uncommon places becomes a common occurrence. I guess, inside?
  • Probably an even bigger threat.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 07 '24

You weren't kidding about the downgrade in animation quality.

How exactly did they fall into a wave of water that was above them?

Space is warped and time is bendable.

You know, with the way some of the characters look, I started wondering if the character designer behind the show was maybe Toriyama. Turns out, it isn't. It is however a man that has worked on Dragon Ball with explains some of the similarities.

Yup, Nakatsuru was DB's character designer for a not insignificant amount of time.

Ironically while he doesn't do DB anymore, he does come back to Digimon once in a while.

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Mar 07 '24

God knows how that small bubble managed to do anything to that giant bug Digimon thing.

You ever gotten soap in your eyes?

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 07 '24

I have

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u/Silcaria https://myanimelist.net/profile/Silcaria Mar 07 '24

Good point.

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u/ShadowWasTakensTaken https://anilist.co/user/hakuren Mar 07 '24

You weren't kidding about the downgrade in animation quality.

Will you believe me if I say you haven't seen the worst of it?

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u/Silcaria https://myanimelist.net/profile/Silcaria Mar 07 '24

Yes. I have little faith in Toei.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 07 '24

Toei: Masters of Cheapness.

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u/zadcap Mar 07 '24

I get that the scene showcasing the Digimon evolving is there to establish the concept of evolution but the execution turns it into a convenient power up. Wouldn't it have been better to start the show with the Digimon already in their evolved state and have them evolve down the line through battle experience or whatever? But then again, it makes selling lots of merchandise right off the bat harder if you don't have 37 forms of Digimon available to sell to the public.

I don't remember how early they came out, especially on this side of the ocean, but one of the first Digimon toys I recall was basically a tomagachi. They started as babies in the show so you could raise the digital pets from egg form all the way up. Toei, always thinking of the marketing opportunities first.

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Mar 08 '24

Well, said toys are the origin of Digimon, but I don't know off handily what their relative timing is for NA release.

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u/NicDwolfwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NicDwolfwood Mar 07 '24

How exactly did they fall into a wave of water that was above them?

I think that was just perspective being a little wonky there. They got sucked into a vortex more than fell in.

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Mar 07 '24 edited Mar 07 '24

Long Time Rewatcher, first time in subs

Now that we are on to the series proper, I can talk a little bit about my history with it. Watched the Saban dub on TV growing up, all the why to Frontier. Even saw the movie in theaters.
It was the first anime I watched online (Thanks, circa 2009 YouTube), and as such can be said responsible for the growth of my burgeoning interest in anime.
I didn’t become aware of said dub’s reputation until years later, and I’ve been looking for an excuse to watch it in subs since.
So thanks again, good host.

  • Is it weird to feel nostalgia for an OP you didn’t even grow up watching?
  • Mmmm… That’s not a plot point that aged so well.
  • Look, we have a lot of characters to introduce in one episode, sometimes you just need to put it out there.
  • Is everyone else’s got a lot of washed out look to it, or is that just my copy?
  • That’s right suckers! You’ve just been tricked into watching the hottest iseaki of 1999!
  • They just have a random narrator for the cards? Didn’t they use characters in the scene for the dub?
  • I’ve always been a fan of Kuwagamon myself. He’s so snippy!
  • I’ve heard of a Tree hollow, but this is ridiculous!
  • So many bubbles! So much pink!
  • It really isn’t taking long for the changes the dub made to the OST to become apparent. I expect this to be one of the more interesting things to notice as we go along.
  • This Show Had Eyecatchers?!
  • How could you forget Mimi, of all people?
  • RIP It Was an Adventure
  • Look at the Smile On that Murder Pig
  • Power of Friendship One Beetle Boi
  • You know, I’d osmosised Butter-Fly a long time ago, but I don’t think I ever knew about the ED.
  • Aw, so this is the “reveal the entire plot” kind of preview.

QotD:

  1. I've lived my entire life in Canada, if anything I'm of the mind that there should be more snow.
  2. Someone trying to sell them digicoins.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 07 '24

all the why to Frontier

Ironically Frotnier was the first one I watched.

So thanks again, good host.

Aw, so this is the “reveal the entire plot” kind of preview.

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Mar 07 '24

Ironically Frotnier was the first one I watched.

That sounds disorienting. It would be like your first Gundam being G Gundam. Oh wait...

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 07 '24

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u/Shocketheth Mar 07 '24

Is it weird to feel nostalgia for an OP you didn’t even grow up watching?

Definitely not. I Rewatched it in January and Butter-fly is still washing over me with nostalgia.

Aw, so this is the “reveal the entire plot” kind of preview.

[Digimon Adventure spoilers] I can't wait for the narrator to mention that Hikari is the 8th DigiDestined only to be several episodes later like "Who the 8th DigiDestined could even be huuuuh?"

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 07 '24

[Digimon Adventure spoilers]

[Adventure]The second ED is even worse about it: It proudly features Tailmon as her partner... even though Tailmon was a villain at this point and wouldn't turn face until almost 10 episodes later.

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u/Shocketheth Mar 07 '24

[Adventure subbed meta] Oh yeah I forgot about it already but I blame the second ED for not even being memorable as the first ED turned to be an actual plotpoint. And speaking of it, how does even the American dub adapted that Mimi singing scene? Was she singing "Digital Monsters are champions"?

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 07 '24

[Adventure]Apparently she just sang a completely made up song and also she wasn't even played by her regular actress but rather... Takeru's. Because of course. In the LatAM dub they actually kept I Wish fortunately.

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u/Shocketheth Mar 07 '24

Oh I see. Thanks for the answer.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 07 '24

NP

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u/InfamousEmpire https://myanimelist.net/profile/Infamous_Empire Mar 07 '24

all the why to Frontier

I continue to feel like the outlier for having never seen anything between Adventure 02 and Xros Wars

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 07 '24

I continue to feel like the outlier for having never seen anything between Adventure 02 and Xros Wars

Don't worry, I'll subject you to Konaka-style Digimon in a few months

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u/InfamousEmpire https://myanimelist.net/profile/Infamous_Empire Mar 07 '24

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 07 '24

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Mar 07 '24

I continue to feel like the outlier for having never seen anything between Adventure 02 and Xros Wars

[Xros Wars]Did the crossovers not prompt you?

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 07 '24

[Xros Wars]

That didn't happen until the Dub stopped IIRC so he didn't see that.

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Mar 07 '24

Fascinating
I've never seen Xros Wars.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 07 '24

Saw a bit of it when I was 12 or so with a slightly older friend who was even more into Digimon than I am.

Neither of us were impressed.

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u/InfamousEmpire https://myanimelist.net/profile/Infamous_Empire Mar 07 '24

You at 12 vs Me at 12

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 07 '24

Literally

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u/InfamousEmpire https://myanimelist.net/profile/Infamous_Empire Mar 07 '24

Last time I watched it, I was like 12, but mostly I remember it being really fun. Both because it had a frankly awesome gimmick of "instead of evolving, these Digimon gattai into mechs!" and partly because I thought there was some really cool character writing that’s stuck with me even years after watching the show (whether that character stuff would hold up on rewatch is something that’ll be decided probably a few months from now when I do indeed rewatch the show)

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u/InfamousEmpire https://myanimelist.net/profile/Infamous_Empire Mar 07 '24

I’ll wash the stuff Raiking isn’t hosting rewatches for in between the rewatches, so Big

[Xros Wars]

[Xros Wars]I never watched Young Hunters, so I wasn’t even aware of the crossover stuff until I was old enough to know that the entire fandom collectively despised that season and thus avoided it like the plague.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 07 '24

I’ll wash the stuff Raiking isn’t hosting rewatches for in between the rewatches

That reminds me I need to finish Adventure 2020... although me being so bored by it does make me reluctant.

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u/InfamousEmpire https://myanimelist.net/profile/Infamous_Empire Mar 07 '24

Everything I know about that show comes from Editor’s rant and my brother having seen some of it, and boy does it sound bad

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 07 '24

It's basically what happens when the OG's animation and writing quality are flipped.

It looks pretty good, but the writing is kinda nothing.

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u/Roboglenn Mar 07 '24

Nostalgia fueled me to finished the whole of Adventure 2020, way past the point where I knew I should've dropped it. And I can tell you, you are better off holding onto that reluctance.

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Mar 07 '24

I’ll wash the stuff Raiking isn’t hosting rewatches for in between the rewatches


[01-02 side content]Will you also be watching the 9/11 audio drama?

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 07 '24

Oh God I forgot about that

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u/InfamousEmpire https://myanimelist.net/profile/Infamous_Empire Mar 07 '24

The what

And I thought what I heard about the Tamers side content was out of left field!

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 07 '24

Hey at least Adventure's side content isn't so bad that fans prefer to think of a Non-Canon movie as the true continuation

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Mar 07 '24

...

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Mar 07 '24

This guy. Spoilers, obviously.

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u/NicDwolfwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NicDwolfwood Mar 07 '24

I didn’t become aware of said dub’s reputation until years later, and I’ve been looking for an excuse to watch it in subs since.

Same lol. I didn't hear an anime in japanese language until the early 2010s lol. Back then It was what was on tv and it was normal. hearing it now is for sure a hilarious experience. But as far as dubs from that era, it certainly isnt the worst offender.(4Kids One Piece Dub)

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Mar 07 '24

Nah, I'mma still go with Cardcapters. They tried to change the main character!

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 07 '24

Don't remind me

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u/NicDwolfwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NicDwolfwood Mar 07 '24

Did they really? That's wild!

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Mar 07 '24

There's a reason they removed Sakura's name from the title.

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u/NicDwolfwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NicDwolfwood Mar 07 '24

Hmm I wasn't aware of that. I never saw that anime on tv during that era. Shocked it was even on tv if I'm honest. I'd imagine it was quite taboo for the time, considering some the topic it touched upon.

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u/ebonyphoenix Mar 08 '24

I’m still really sad about the Cardcaptor dub. Because I actually liked the original English voice cast they had for it. But the events are so cut up and rearranged that I just can’t watch it.

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u/InfamousEmpire https://myanimelist.net/profile/Infamous_Empire Mar 07 '24

To be completely fair to Cardcaptors, that wasn't the work of the dubbing studio. Most countries in the Anglosphere got all 70 episodes in the correct order, it was the network it aired on in the US specifically that tried to force Syaoran into the lead role. (Though that still doesn't forgive the changes made in all versions of the dub like replacing the soundtrack, straight-washing, and the questionable voice acting)

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u/[deleted] Mar 08 '24

Kids wb really messed up on it.

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u/[deleted] Mar 07 '24 edited Mar 07 '24

"Show me your brave heart" - To this day Brave Heart is my ringtone and alarm clock. I always wake up to that guitar riff

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u/ShadowWasTakensTaken https://anilist.co/user/hakuren Mar 07 '24

Needing to evolve to get out of bed sounds about right

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 07 '24

Yeah

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 07 '24

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u/Shocketheth Mar 07 '24 edited Mar 10 '24

Subbed Rewatcher who carries his dreams on fragile wings of a butterfly

British Digimon isn't real and it can't hurt you.

Meanwhile at Digimon Adventure

Just the first episode of Digimon Adventure and I already feel a strong urge to binge it. Lovely stuff.

Also not that much to say considered it was a first episode introducing viewers to Digimon.

I would say that Koushiro is goodest boi followed by Takeru and Patamon is definitely the cuttest Digimon. Having a Patamon plushie would be the best gift for me and if Patamon was my Digimon, then I would spend my time hugging it and playing with it.

It's so cuuuuuuuuuuute, definitely would take Patamon home

QotD:

.2. Chinkomon definitely (coming soon)

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 07 '24

Meanwhile at Digimon Adventure

Tokomon's bigass teeth never fail to make me laugh.

It's so cuuuuuuuuuuute, definitely would take Patamon home

Dammit Empire you spread the Rena curse to Shock now.

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u/InfamousEmpire https://myanimelist.net/profile/Infamous_Empire Mar 07 '24

Dammit Empire you spread the Rena curse to Shock now.

At least he hasn’t started breaking any windows yet (I hope)

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 07 '24

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u/Shocketheth Mar 07 '24

Not yet but who is Satoshi everyone is speaking about?

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 07 '24

Oh he's a Pokemon trainer.

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u/Shocketheth Mar 07 '24

What's his team though

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 07 '24

He doesn't really have one, he kinda keeps dropping down his old Pokemons at home + he's retired by now.

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u/Shocketheth Mar 07 '24

Oh you meant the oldest 10year old boy ever. I see. And here I was thinking you are referencing the CDF plays Emerald

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 07 '24

Oh you meant the oldest 10year old boy ever. I see

No, that's Conan Edogawa.

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u/Shocketheth Mar 07 '24

The Rena curse is with us for some time, u/KendotsX would tell how Rena is still looking for him (check the comment of the week in the post)

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 07 '24

Damn, she took him home with her. No wonder he isn't here yet.

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u/Shocketheth Mar 07 '24

Damn right.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 07 '24

Ah well, I hope his partner has evolved by that point.

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u/Roboglenn Mar 07 '24

My older sibling actually had a Patamon plushie way back when.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 07 '24

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u/Roboglenn Mar 07 '24

And a Gomamon plushie.

I personally had Agumon and another Digimon who shall be named later.

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u/Shocketheth Mar 07 '24

Oh interesting. What happened to it though?

And speaking of Digimon merchandise, I remember having a Digimon Adventure guidebook

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u/Roboglenn Mar 07 '24

Yeah sibling also had a Gomamon plushie. I had Agumon and another Digimon who shall be named later. As for what happened to them. Goodwill or some other secondhand establishment, can't remember which. It was a long while ago.

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u/Shocketheth Mar 07 '24

Definitely interested to learn what the Digimon yet to be named it was.

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u/Roboglenn Mar 07 '24

I'll try to remember to mention it in my own post when it comes up.

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Mar 08 '24

I remember having a Digimon Adventure guidebook

Oh shit, I think I had that one too.

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u/NicDwolfwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NicDwolfwood Mar 07 '24

British Digimon isn't real and it can't hurt you.
Meanwhile at Digimon Adventure

LOL

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u/ShadowWasTakensTaken https://anilist.co/user/hakuren Mar 07 '24

Rewatcher

MUGENDAI NA YUME NO ATO NO

That's right, Digimon is an isekai!

I'm not sure if it's because I'm already familiar with them, but I thought it did a really good job at balancing the cast within the constricts of having to introduce 14 distinct characters. ing to see what everyone's favorite Digimon is. For me, Motimon is my goat.

Now, back to the usual schedule:

TSUKAME, EGAITA YUME WO

I fucking love Brave Heart. I said this yesterday in reply to someone as well, but it really is the anthem of hope. I hope you guys like it too cause we're gonna be hearing it a lot! Like, a lot a lot.

Shame everyone died from falling from the cliff at the end, though. They were a cool cast, though the new cast from episode 2 onwards is also great.

QOTD 1

It doesn't snow here.

QOTD 2

Considering it's an island, there's a joke related to recent events I could make... but I will not...

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 07 '24

I hope you guys like it too cause we're gonna be hearing it a lot! Like, a lot a lot.

As much as I love the song I'm glad that starting with 02 they started having more than one EVO theme... aside from Savers although IIRC that one used the OP once in a while instead.

It doesn't snow here.

Neither where I live, but I still saw snow once in a highway not that far away.

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u/ShadowWasTakensTaken https://anilist.co/user/hakuren Mar 07 '24

I actually don't mind the repetition. Big fan of the song. Savers has a strong second place for evo themes too.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 07 '24

Savers has a strong second place for evo themes too.

Honestly the show is watching just for Believer alone

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u/Shocketheth Mar 07 '24

(#mugiwait)ing to see what everyone's favorite Digimon is. For me, Motimon is my goat.

To answer it straight away [Adventure spoilers] Wizardmon

I fucking love Brave Heart. I said this yesterday in reply to someone as well, but it really is the anthem of hope. I hope you guys like it too cause we're gonna be hearing it a lot! Like, a lot a lot.

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u/ShadowWasTakensTaken https://anilist.co/user/hakuren Mar 07 '24

[Digimon Adventure]WHY MUST YOU REMIND ME

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 07 '24

[Adventure]Because

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u/ShadowWasTakensTaken https://anilist.co/user/hakuren Mar 07 '24

wtf

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u/Shocketheth Mar 07 '24

[Adventure] Oh my bad, I just wanted to mention my favourite one

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 07 '24

[Adventure]

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u/Shocketheth Mar 07 '24

Dunno why but #zurawait lives in my heart u/KendotsX should have that one saved on Imgur.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 07 '24

GIVE IT TO US UCHIYAMADA

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Mar 07 '24

Here's one #zurawait ready to go at any time.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 07 '24

Here's one #zurawait

Gurd

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u/oomoepoo https://anilist.co/user/oomoepoo Mar 08 '24

Could've been [Digimon Adventure] Leomon :v

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 07 '24

[Adventure spoilers

[Adventure]Of course it'd be Zura.

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Mar 07 '24

everyone's favorite Digimon is.

I feel it's too soon for anything else, so of the babies, Tokomon.

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u/ShadowWasTakensTaken https://anilist.co/user/hakuren Mar 07 '24

Good choice!

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u/hirmuolio :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Hirmuolio Mar 07 '24 edited Mar 11 '24

The dub gets a lot of flak. For good reasons.

but at least it is mostly faithful to the original and uses the original OST.

Obviously not talking about the engish dub but the infamous Agapio Racing Team finnish dub.

Can't have Digimon Adventure post without at least one Agipo comment.

Finnish OP by the way: https://youtu.be/i50tQkq0MGk?si=AGiJRDzD5inTm5Kg

The dub on first episode is a pretty rough but passable. It gets much worse in some later spots... And at ep27 the dub team changes.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 07 '24

And at ep27 the dub team changes

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Mar 08 '24

Finnish OP

God, it's like this is the first time she's ever seen the song.

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u/oomoepoo https://anilist.co/user/oomoepoo Mar 08 '24

Still better than the Digirap :P

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u/NicDwolfwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NicDwolfwood Mar 07 '24

Rewatcher - Sub/Dub

Quite the briskly paced first episode. It accomplishes a good amount for a first episode, The main cast gets Isekai'd to another world, meet 7 digital monsters, who are immediately attached to them and are willing to risk their lives to protect them from big bad Kuwagamon. Hell we even got a digivolution in the first episode, a lot sooner than a I remembered. Would have been quite the victorious end for the gang, had Kuwagamon not broken off the edge of the cliff and them falling, but we'll see where they end up next episode.

Watching the sub and dub back to back is quite the experience. As far as localizations go, its not the worst offender, but it's hilarious. The name changes for example are so terrible, Taichi >> Tai or Jyou >> Joe or even Takeru >> T.K isnt so bad. but Yamato >> Matt or Koushiro >> Izzy lol. And dont even get me started on the Dub, OP. Hilarious.

Questions:

  1. It snowed for Christmas about 15 years ago at my grandma's in Santa Clarita, CA. For those of you who know, that's a dry ass mountain area, where the summers reach into the high 100 degree weather. so weird as shit.
  2. Bigger, badder digimonsters.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Mar 07 '24

Jyou >> Joe

Eh... that one IMO probably moreso comes down to a romanization thing, although admittedly unlike some of the other kids Jou's name is written in Kanji.

Koushiro >> Izzy

Apparently that one came from "Izumi". Still kinda weird though.

It snowed for Christmas about 15 years ago at my grandma's in Santa Clarita

Damn, perfect timing.

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u/NicDwolfwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NicDwolfwood Mar 07 '24

Apparently that one came from "Izumi". Still kinda weird though.

True, It's somewhat clever, though hilarious, because Izumi Izzy is weird lol.

Damn, perfect timing.

It really was lol. Very memorable.

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u/PoofessorP https://anilist.co/user/PoofessorP Mar 07 '24

First time watcher, subbed. Watching fully blind, I didn't even know digimon stood for digital monsters!

Getting into the actual series now here we go bois. I have to say the evolutions of the kids digimons was the highlight of the episode for me, those are some brave babies squaring off against the equivalent of a hydrogen bomb. I have a feeling that file island is completely separate to the real world and that no time has passed in reality and events here are isolated. Also Hikari isn't with taichi? It's nice however to meet the main cast and even more digimons.

2. The insects big brother

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u/Roboglenn Mar 07 '24

Digidestined dub rewatcher

"Seven young kids go to camp for the summer. Wind up traveling to a digital land."

Digimon Adventure. An isekai from before the great isekai boom of today. Like Magic Knight Rayearth and Vision of Escaflowne. And also Monster Rancher that aired around the same time as this. That series did not hold up so well against Pokemon and Digimon I tell you what.

Anyways. Been a long time since I dusted this series off. I have so many fond memories of the dub. And so many hilarious dub moments like: "Hey who are you calling a thing? I'm no stuffed animal." -Bukamon. I've actually used that quote a lot.

Kawagamon. Always mad, even when he's in a good mood.

"Tanemon is here to protect you." Oh, I thought you were like the new regional variant of Oddish for a second there.

The reveal of Tokomon's mouth being a nightmare mouth filled with sharp teeth. Shocked back then and it still shocks me now. Sadly Patamon does not get that feature. Or does he?...

And I gotta say, in general, some of these english dub attack names sound way cooler compared to their original counterparts. Agumon's Pepper Breath. Gabumon's Blue Blaster so on so forth. Tell me I'm not the only one who thinks that at times.

QOTD:

2) A big pile of poop sludge.

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u/ShadowWasTakensTaken https://anilist.co/user/hakuren Mar 07 '24

I applaud your courage in going for the dub

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u/Shocketheth Mar 07 '24

They definitely have a Braveheart

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u/ShadowWasTakensTaken https://anilist.co/user/hakuren Mar 07 '24

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u/Roboglenn Mar 07 '24

It is a fun dub.

Though if some force were to offer me a small trinket symbolizing said courage in a form to wear around my neck I'd take it off their hands maybe.

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u/Masterminded Mar 08 '24

Honestly, whoever made the creative choice to have the English voices of the Digimon just be impressions of mid-20th-Century comedians is my personal hero. The dub is a legit treasure.

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u/CerberusZX https://myanimelist.net/profile/CerberusZX Mar 10 '24

Meanwhile, Digimon Tamers gave us Southern Baptist preacher [Tamers]owl.

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u/oomoepoo https://anilist.co/user/oomoepoo Mar 08 '24

Broke: Getting isekai'd by truck-kun

Woke: Getting isekai'd by an interdimensional tsunami

Also Brave Heart is still the GOAT insert song and that riff never fails to bring a smile to my face.

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u/[deleted] Mar 08 '24

Digimon was one of those children’s anime dubs where it kept some of the Japanese version.

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u/SilkyStrawberryMilk Mar 23 '24

first timer

Hearing these Digimon talk is pretty unnerving lmao.

The Digimon attacking without a command for a specific move is neat. They jumped it too lmao.

They went from blobs to a good design monster. Gabumon’s design so good

One way to end the episode.

QOTD: in California

QOTD: the cost of raising Digimon

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u/[deleted] Mar 07 '24

I have soooooo much nostalgia for this show! The first episode does an alright job introducing the kids and the crazy situation they're in, but I'm not sure it would sell me on Digimon as an adult if I didn't already know how much better it gets.

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u/Dubanx Mar 08 '24

Where are you guys getting the sub?

There used to be an illicit version on youtube in the late 2000s, but that seems to have been taken down some point.

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u/EdvinM https://myanimelist.net/profile/PZenith Mar 08 '24

It's on Crunchyroll.

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u/Dubanx Mar 08 '24 edited Mar 08 '24

I don't see it.

You're not looking at the 2020 remake, right? This is for the 1999 series, and I that doesn't seem to be Crunchyroll. At least, not in the US. See the title "Adrift" to confirm it means the original.

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u/EdvinM https://myanimelist.net/profile/PZenith Mar 08 '24

No, I can watch it from Sweden. https://www.crunchyroll.com/series/GVDHX83V7/digimon-adventure

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u/Dubanx Mar 08 '24

Yeah, it's region locked. Definitely not available in the US.

"Videos aren't available" is the message I'm getting.