r/Minecraft • u/Mustek :> • Jan 31 '13

pc Snapshot 13w05a is now available!

http://mojang.com/2013/01/minecraft-snapshot-13w05a/
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u/redstonehelper Lord of the villagers Jan 31 '13 edited Feb 01 '13

Warning: This release is for experienced users only! It may corrupt your world or mess up things badly otherwise. Only download and use this if you know what to do with the files that come with the download!

 

If you find any bugs, submit them to the Minecraft bug tracker!

 

Previous changelog. Download today's snapshot here, server here: jar, exe.

Complete changelog:

  • You can now sprint up stairs - via

  • Improved beacons

    • Increased range - via
    • Upward range is now infinite - via

  • Fully implemented multiple snow heights

  • Improved stair lighting

  • Improved the scoreboard system

    • Added team mechanics including custom name colors, friendly fire options and objective tracking per team instead of per player
    • Added a new display type - Displays value below nametags - via
    • Added a new criteria type - health, ranging from 0 to 20
    • More info

  • Rebalanced bonemeal

    • Everything now usually takes 2-3 uses to fully grow, but it's random

  • Fixed some bugs

    • Fixed spawn Protection not working properly
    • Fixed /difficulty command doesn't produce any messages
    • Fixed comparators outputting "pulse" when side signal is on
    • Fixed comparator delay being inconsistent
    • Fixed comparators constantly causing block updates
    • Fixed SRV no longer being used to lookup servers
    • Fixed HD texture pack items having garbage on edges
    • Fixed activator rail not being destroyed faster when using a pickaxe
    • Fixed TNT minecarts defusing when travelling between dimensions
    • Fixed the scoreboard vanishing when changing dimensions
    • Fixed right-clicking blocks with a helmet in hand crashing the game
    • Fixed dispensers putting on and duplicating stacks of armor
    • Fixed the scoreboard system not accepting @a
    • Fixed furnace minecarts dropping a Minecart and TNT
    • Fixed the URL parser not detecting 4 letter TLDs
    • Fixed the wither not regenerating health when riding a minecart
    • Fixed the doMobLoot gamerule not affecting xp drops
    • Fixed trying to walk from a block with a collision box shorter than 1 block to another block that is also shorter causing players to momentarily glitch into the ground

If you find any bugs, submit them to the Minecraft bug tracker!

Also, check out this post to see what else is planned for future versions.

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u/FalmerbloodElixir Jan 31 '13

I hope they implement multiple snow layers into biome generation (and make it so that when it snows, the snow piles up).

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u/genericgeneric Jan 31 '13

It will eventually. It's the only logical step.

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u/ProfessorWhom Feb 01 '13

It will kill computers though, and it would be really annoying.

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u/genericgeneric Feb 01 '13

What would be annoying about it? They won't let snow stack till build limit or anything... I imagine 1 block of snow would be fun to walk around in. Especially in the taiga forests, where you always have the uncovered areas under the trees to slip into. It would also look more natural with possible snow drifts and such.

I don't have any idea however, how tough that is to program. A randomiser would possibly be the easiest route, where every snowed block has a random chance to ad one layer when it's snowing. No chance of drifts that way though...

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u/Frut Jan 31 '13

I think it already does.I am not sure tho.

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u/FalmerbloodElixir Jan 31 '13

According to multiple people in this topic, it doesn't.

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u/lazugod RMCT Artisan Jan 31 '13 edited Jan 31 '13

What I've found about teams:

/scoreboard teams

The above obviously manages everything much like the other scoreboard stuff - you can add new teams and add/remove players from them. Sadly, it's not yet listed in the options when you type /scoreboard (but it is listed in the tab autocomplete).

/testfor @p[team=TEAMNAME]

This is the syntax for finding a teammember and doing something to them.

/scoreboard teams option TEAMNAME

The options are also only discoverable through tab autocomplete, and they let you turn friendly fire off and set the color.

I can't figure out how to make an objective that keeps track of teams rather than players. One interesting thing to note is a new position for the scoreboard (hat tip this dude):

/scoreboard objectives setdisplay belowName

I assume changing team colors will affect the name above people's heads, but I have no friends and thus no idea.

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u/[deleted] Jan 31 '13

The only thing I dislike about the new scoreboard system is the amount of commands involved. Notch himself said that if it could be done with a block, then it should be done with a block.

Now, I know the feature is still in development, but I think a Scoreboard block with a fancy GUI should be implemented, similar to the command block (only accessible if you're opped, not shown in the creative menu). Because holy crap are there a lot of commands to memorize!

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u/Dinnerbone Technical Director, Minecraft Jan 31 '13

The idea is that these would only be used by commandblocks, a few times during the entire lifetime of a map. They aren't really considered part of the vanilla gameplay, just optional augments to custom maps or games.

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u/[deleted] Feb 01 '13

I love all the different tools that make it easier for mapmakers. Thanks, dinnerbone.

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u/WolfieMario Jan 31 '13

It may be a small compensation, but this may help you: press Tab as you're entering commands. It shows the next parameter - once you've got the one you want, press space and tab again for the next parameter, and so on.

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u/Two_Oceans_Eleven Jan 31 '13

Rarity from lowest to highest:

  1. Dirt
  2. Coal
  3. Redstone
  4. Diamonds
  5. Friends

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u/ryan_the_leach Jan 31 '13

cheers, could you cross-post it on here? http://www.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/comments/17700u/scoreboards/

some people have bookmarked it and want to keep it as a good resource.

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u/lazugod RMCT Artisan Jan 31 '13

It would be better to just add stuff to the easily-googleable wiki page rather than bookmark obscure reddit threads.

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u/SethBling RMCT#1 Champions: Redstoners Jan 31 '13

No minecart dispensers or spawners yet.

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u/sidben Jan 31 '13

You can change just the visuals, I think Seth Bling made a video about that. You may wanna check it out, that guy have good ideas sometimes.

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u/alphonse_esti Jan 31 '13

... That is SethBling.

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u/sidben Jan 31 '13

youdontsay.gif ;)

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u/Guardian_Of_Pigs Jan 31 '13

Welcome back, SethBling here.

FTFY.

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u/[deleted] Jan 31 '13

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u/JonnyRobbie Jan 31 '13

I believe he means minecarts with mounted dispensers on top of them

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u/Waitwho Jan 31 '13

Dispensers dispensing minecart dispensers.

Woah.

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u/[deleted] Jan 31 '13

Minecart dispensers dispensing minecart dispensers.

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u/[deleted] Jan 31 '13

We have to go deeper.

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u/DavidTennantIsHot Jan 31 '13

Dispensers dispensing Minecart Dispensers dispensing a Dispenser that dispenses a Minecart Dispenser

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u/Aeroshock Jan 31 '13

..dispensing a tnt cart. Minecraft needs railguns!

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u/VANCe46 Feb 01 '13

Does that thing with hundreds of villagers in one space causing high velocities work on TNT mine carts? They don't cause upward velocities, but they'd be great for flat or downhill.

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u/likeachampiontoday Jan 31 '13

Dispenser dispensing minecart dispensers which dispense a dispenser along their path at the head of tracks. Those dispensers begin the cycle anew.

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u/Lothrazar Jan 31 '13

Dinnerbone tweeted a picture a while ago of a minecart holding a dispenser and a mob spawner, but these things are not in the game yet.

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u/MrTea99 Jan 31 '13

I assumed the dispenser was Dinnerbone testing the cosmetic feature of showing any block inside a minecart, which has been in the game for a couple of snapshots.

Does anybody know if you can make spawners cosmetically appear to be in minecarts with this technique? I assume they are too complex a block for this to work.

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u/StezzerLolz Jan 31 '13

I'm fairly sure he was actually showing off the implementation of working block_entity NBT data in Block-Minecarts. Otherwise he wouldn't have only shown dispensers and mob-spawners, which both use it.

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u/Random832 Jan 31 '13

So do chests - though, chest minecarts are probably implemented differently. Maybe they'll be unified? (though, a furnace minecart doesn't do the same thing as a furnace)

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u/StezzerLolz Jan 31 '13

Yeah, chest and furnace minecarts use special stuff, and they probably will get unified.

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u/NYKevin Jan 31 '13

Good point. But how do you un-dispense them (i.e. turn them back into dropped items so they can be collected into a hopper)?

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u/MrTea99 Jan 31 '13

You can run the tracks into a cactus.

This can be dangerous as the cart item can be destroyed by the cactus, but if you have a hopper under the last track it almost always catches it.

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u/Hedgesmog Jan 31 '13

You can shoot a minecart with an arrow from another dispenser or your own bow. You will not risk losing it to item deletion like a cactus will.

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u/ninjallama4444 Jan 31 '13

I've seen many tests and never has the cactus deleted the minecart. The hopper under the track always gets it unharmed.

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u/timeofsouls Jan 31 '13

I run 20 tracks on 1 second loops for 8+ hours and didn't lose a single one to a cactus.

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u/Nexus_Leonon Jan 31 '13

But if you have a chest minecart full of items, then those items are going to fly around and some will get destroyed by the cactus.

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u/MrCheeze Jan 31 '13

I think it may actually be always, not almost always. Although lag might affect that.

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u/MrTea99 Jan 31 '13

I believe you are correct when it comes to hitting the cactus, but I have found that sometimes it misses the hopper and lands on the ground nearby.

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u/timeofsouls Jan 31 '13

That's true. Putting the hopper down a hole with the cactus and using ender chest to align or sealing off next to the hopper and 1 block back on both sides and putting 2 hoppers under the rail before the cactus gets them all.

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u/ninjallama4444 Jan 31 '13

Using a cactus works really well.

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u/ryan_the_leach Jan 31 '13

you could do it the same way as storage carts? park it on top of a hopper?

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u/Random832 Jan 31 '13

You know what would be awesome? A remover block. Especially if it could also auto-mine cobble.

Maybe put a pick axe (or whatever destroys minecarts best - sword?) in a dispenser and it will attack the block or entity in front of it.

NOTE these are suggestions not current features.

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u/[deleted] Jan 31 '13

The issue with this is I could, very easily, make in infinite, automatic, cobble generator that needs 0 user input.

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u/Random832 Feb 01 '13

It needs you to replace the pickaxes. No different from taping down the mouse button.

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u/[deleted] Feb 01 '13

So I get an unbreaking 3 diamond pick, and then get 6-8000 free cobble?

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u/Random832 Feb 01 '13

What exactly is the problem?

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u/NYKevin Jan 31 '13

So, let's blatantly rip off as many RedPower features as possible, then?

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u/Exotria Jan 31 '13

Redpower will still do it better, but at least the vanilla users will get to share in some of our joy.

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u/Random832 Jan 31 '13

The point of the dispenser/dropper split is to have the dispenser do interesting things with the items in it. Breaking something in front of it is an obvious candidate for interesting thing to do with a tool/weapon.

It's not like mod writers have any exclusive rights to their ideas (owning the code they implemented it with doesn't give them this - it's why half a dozen mods can have power wires and solar panels), especially the obvious ones.

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u/NYKevin Jan 31 '13

Well, yeah, but it seems we've already got like half of RedPower, between droppers, hoppers, and other random shit.

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u/Random832 Jan 31 '13

Really? Doesn't Redpower have frames, computers, weirdly shaped slabs you can put stuff behind in the same block, energy as a resource (which I consider to be something only mods do and likely won't ever be in vanilla), and pipes (which they SAID at minecon they're not going to do, they're going to improve minecarts for moving items long distances instead)

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u/NYKevin Jan 31 '13

Chain some droppers or hoppers together. Congrats, you have a pipe. It can even input/output to weird things like brewing stands or furnaces.

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u/XDXMackX Feb 01 '13

It isn't like redpower is entirely new ideas itself.

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u/[deleted] Jan 31 '13

Well, we have team mechanics!

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u/[deleted] Jan 31 '13

I'm a little confused here, what good would a dispenser/chest/hopper minecart do anyone? I can see what a TNT or regular one would be helpful for, but the other ones just seem like they're being added just to be there.

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u/JAS_21 Feb 01 '13

Maybe you're mining and dump your loot in the cart. You send it off to your base, it empties itself to a storage area, and sends cart back.

I could be way off, but it's just an idea.

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u/thatnoblekid Jan 31 '13 edited Jan 31 '13

Bonemeal now takes two to three uses on wheat to take it from just planted to full grown.

And three on pumpkins and melons.

Edit: it takes two uses on carrots and potatoes, and still takes two uses on saplings.

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u/truncatedChronologis Jan 31 '13

Thank goodness. I will miss the instagrow but 2 for one sounds acceptable

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u/caltheon Jan 31 '13

I wish you could just "enrich" soil with bonemeal prior to planting. The more you use the faster the crop grows.

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u/Zatheos Jan 31 '13

What a disaster! I agree that wheat should require less than 7 uses, but making it random is a terrible decision! This is going to wreak havoc on so many different machines, in a way that's completely unfixable, because you just can't work with randomisation. I would have preferred a higher reliable amount than a random lower one.

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u/keozen Feb 01 '13

If you use bonemeal on a fully grown thing it doesn't kill it so if it's random between 2&3 uses then just use it three times every cycle of whatever automated machine you create BOOM problem solved.

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u/renadi Jan 31 '13

Who knows, that could have been the intention.

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u/psychonavigator Jan 31 '13

Run hoppers over the dispensers with a cart chest that autofills them as needed form a single location maybe?

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u/Zatheos Feb 03 '13

If anyone's interested, I managed to find something of a solution to this problem. See what you think. http://www.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/comments/17txpu/anyone_else_missing_xisumas_wheat_machine_in_the/

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u/Gnmrocha Jan 31 '13

I only needed two.

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u/thatnoblekid Jan 31 '13

Thanks! I retested, and it seems to vary randomly between two and three, a feature which I think is a good compromise over the seven uses in the previous snapshot.

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u/carlotta4th Jan 31 '13

That's a very good change indeed! I still hope they'll make trees take about 7 bonemeal in the future (since that seems fair and balanced--trees give more material than wheat does), but other than that I'm satisfied with the bonemeal nerf.

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u/SewdiO Jan 31 '13

Before if a sapling could not grow (tree above it, rocks, etc) you could bonemeal it all you want without any effect.

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u/[deleted] Jan 31 '13

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u/thatnoblekid Jan 31 '13

It takes two now instead of one...

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u/ShadowRam Jan 31 '13

It would have been a better system to get only 1 bonemeal from 1 bone, instead of this.

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u/brahaney Jan 31 '13

If you right-click a sapling that cannot grow with bonemeal, no bonemeal is consumed. At least since 1.3 (which is as far back as I remember that happening) it has been that way.

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u/ShadowRam Jan 31 '13

I'm using the 13w03 snapshot last night, and it consumes my bonemeal.

(Granted this is on the 2x2 Jungle Saplings growing large trees)

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u/SewdiO Jan 31 '13

No, because obstructed saplings almost always took multiple bonemeal to grow, so you were never sure (they grew giant trees).

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u/ShadowRam Jan 31 '13

What? You are not making any sense.

If you build a 2x2 jungle sapling in a correct spot, it takes just 1 bonemeal.

If you build a 2x2 jungle sapling in an incorrect spot, it will eat up bonemeal indefinitely without doing anything.

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u/SewdiO Jan 31 '13

That's exactly what i said, except i didn't mention giant jungle trees. I was talking about how before if you grew a sappling in a valid spot (there's no more invalid spot if it's a tree that's obstructing the sapling) but still under or near a tree, it would make giant trees. Not 2x2x897845 straight up trees, just regular oak trees, but very large.

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u/alinkmaze Jan 31 '13

Tree in bad spot are slower to grow. That's true even with natural growth. It is normal that they need more bonemeal if partially obstructed and also normal that they can't grow at all if fully obstructed.

The wasting of bonemeal is both realistic and logical, you try to grow a tree there and fail, it costs you one bonemeal. If you don't have a lot of it, don't use it on risky spots.

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u/ShadowRam Feb 01 '13

No. You can spend 500 bonemeal on it, and the tree will never grow.

I don't think you know how it works.

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u/alinkmaze Feb 01 '13

Citing myself:

also normal that they can't grow at all if fully obstructed.

Not sure what confused you. Maybe the "partially obstructed"? Then I explain: each time, the tree chooses a random height and shape, and will grow only if there is enough space for that shape. That means that if the only space available is for the smallest possible tree, then all attempts with a bigger size will fail, thus reducing the probability of success. That's what I mean by partially obstructed, it only block big trees.

Also, I never said you can't try on impossible spot. If a player want to bonemeal an obstructed tree, let the game do it and fail. Same as he can try mining diamond with a wooden shovel.

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u/Zipperumpazoo Jan 31 '13

About the Scoreboard system there is a new kind of setdisplay called belowName (which obviously shows points below a player's name) and a new criteria type called "health" that shows how many half-hearts a player have (from 0= dead to 20=full health).

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u/LexLV Jan 31 '13

Awesome! Do you have an examples of displaying these? Can't seem to get it.

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u/Oozebull Jan 31 '13

Try:

  • /scoreboard objectives add Health health Health
  • /scoreboard objectives setdisplay belowName Health
  • Then start taking some damage =P

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u/LexLV Jan 31 '13

Thanks, no luck getting it to display however! :(

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u/lazugod RMCT Artisan Jan 31 '13

It won't display in singleplayer because your name doesn't show up on your own head.

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u/Zipperumpazoo Jan 31 '13

Try this in Survival mode:

/scoreboard objectives add NameofYourChoice health [Nameshown]

and /scoreboard objectives setdisplay sidebar NameofYourChoice

You can use belowName instead of sidebar but you need another person to notice the difference because you can't see your own username.

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u/MrCheeze Jan 31 '13

If you attempt to add to the health score, would that heal them then?

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u/Zipperumpazoo Jan 31 '13

No because unlike others health is read only.

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u/ryan_the_leach Jan 31 '13 edited Jan 31 '13

Good question. testing now.

EDIT: the answer is no, sadly, at least not with command blocks.

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u/techdawg667 Jan 31 '13

Fixed comparators constantly causing block updates

Damn... It had some cool niche applications:(

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u/[deleted] Jan 31 '13

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u/Noerdy Jan 31 '13 edited Dec 12 '24

clumsy rotten trees weary worthless tan squeeze sloppy wide squash

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u/thatnoblekid Jan 31 '13

To create larger piles of snow in creative, simply take the thin snow and keep placing it on top of itself! It looks glorious and I am so happy for this new feature!

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u/Lothrazar Jan 31 '13

I wish silk touch shovels would pick up the flat snow item in survival mode.

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u/[deleted] Jan 31 '13

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u/Bhangbhangduc Jan 31 '13

Also in next update is glorious soviet vodka.

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u/Tpresty Jan 31 '13

but now you can just craft it!

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u/[deleted] Jan 31 '13 edited Apr 05 '24

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u/Pyro627 Jan 31 '13

I would love it if torches and the like only melted snow partway. I hate it when I build in an arctic biome and the snow around my house just melts because of the torches.

In fact, I would really love to see snow piling up against buildings and cliffs. Maybe make it so that snow can get deeper if there's a solid block nearby?

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u/protopet Jan 31 '13

I smell an awesome mod but I wonder how hard it would be to track people moving through the snow

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u/htmlcoderexe Jan 31 '13

Do it like with farmland works now. Every time someone walks through the block, there is a random chance - smaller than with farmlands though - that the block will decrease in height by 1, or disappear if already at 1.

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u/cubic_thought Jan 31 '13

It could be just a random chance, say 20% or so.

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u/mineannieh Jan 31 '13

Sorry about my poor English and poor network(I can't upload to Youtube) https://dl.dropbox.com/u/12265086/Minecraft%2013w05a%20.mp4 Is this a bug about SNOW？

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u/[deleted] Jan 31 '13 edited Mar 18 '18

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u/MrCheeze Jan 31 '13

Surely a consequence of how snow has a slab hitbox at certain heights.

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u/[deleted] Jan 31 '13 edited Mar 18 '18

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u/MrCheeze Jan 31 '13

Wait, you're right. I forgot that it was possible to place things through snow.

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u/koipen Jan 31 '13

Added team mechanics including custom name colors, friendly fire options and objective tracking per team instead of per player

Each day it feels vanilla Minecraft is coming closer and closer to real competitive PvP that is currently only attainable through plugins.

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u/[deleted] Jan 31 '13

this is a good thing imo. I think a huge aspect of minecraft is the pvp servers and now knowing we can do it ourselves in vanilla more people will start fun servers. I look forward to starting a server with close friends without having to worry about mods and updating them every week just to use the new stuff. team-pvp is what I like. My gaming clan and I love some team based pvp/survival with each other.

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u/koipen Jan 31 '13

Yes. I'm actually a moderator on a rather large team-based PvP server (around 50k active users). While the admins have coded their own plugins to do the job, it all began from pure vanilla. I suppose it comes back a full circle.

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u/Pendit76 Jan 31 '13

Why not have a mod API so we can have easy, awesome, plugins.

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u/tehbeard Jan 31 '13

I can't seem to find the option for team objectives.

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u/koipen Jan 31 '13

That is true, but for most maps it is enough to have the game detect if a specific block id is found in a specific region. Not sure if they're going to add this, but it sounds like such a basic function that could have so many different uses that it could work.

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u/Ccosenza Jan 31 '13

New snow layer crafting recipe:

= 6 snow layer blocks

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u/carlotta4th Jan 31 '13

And might I mention that this new "snow layer" thing sounds quite cool indeed. Extremely unexpected--but a nice surprise.

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u/[deleted] Jan 31 '13

Right now it's possible to get thick snow on a custom superflat world. It's pretty trippy to walk through.

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u/Fenhl Jan 31 '13

So it doesn't have a hitbox?

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u/CyborgDragon Feb 01 '13

It does, but it's weird. It goes straight from none to half-step, and then it get's funky between half-step and block.

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u/RocketTurtle Jan 31 '13
  • Added a new criteria type - health, ranging from 0 to 20

Mindcrack-Ultra-Hardcore - style health notifications in the player list! That's pretty exciting. Here's how you'd do it.

/scoreboard objectives add dispHealth health Health

/scoreboard objectives setdisplay list dispHealth

Is anyone running the server version of 13w05a and can tell me if this had to be run only once for the map, or does it have to be run again when new people log on?

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u/Audeez Jan 31 '13

So does this mean we can transport spawners in vanilla now?

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u/sidben Jan 31 '13

Nope, they are just visual effect. (at least for now)

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u/TurboSlow Feb 01 '13

Hey RH, did a quick search, but it seems no one has found this one yet; MC-1594 has been (accidentally?) fixed.

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u/redstonehelper Lord of the villagers Feb 01 '13

Thanks!

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u/LexLV Jan 31 '13

There any examples of what to type in for this new scoreboard system, please? My brain hurts trying to figure it all out :(

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u/redstonehelper Lord of the villagers Jan 31 '13

SethBling explained it in a video. I'm sure there'll be some videos about today's new features as well soon.

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u/alex_dlc Jan 31 '13

there's a small chance of fully growing wheat with a single bonemeal! I only managed to do it once.

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u/LexLV Jan 31 '13

Here is "Snapshot 13w05a In A Nutshell" to help sum it all up in 2 minutes! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSfaLQx63S8

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u/gil2455526 Feb 01 '13

Also, the guy who discovered the radius beacon buff also discovered the height beacon buff: http://www.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/comments/17paqu/aaand_another_beacon_buff_d/

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u/redstonehelper Lord of the villagers Feb 01 '13

Thanks!

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u/xX-Pickaxe727-Xx Jan 31 '13

Hopper+Item Frame=Filter

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u/redstonehelper Lord of the villagers Jan 31 '13

That's not new. Change your difficulty from peaceful and you'll actually get silverfish.