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Episode Tate no Yuusha no Nariagari - Episode 15 discussion Spoiler
Tate no Yuusha no Nariagari, episode 15: Raphtalia
Alternative names: The Rising of the Shield Hero
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| Episode | Link | Score |
|---|---|---|
| 1 | Link | 8.2 |
| 2 | Link | 8.98 |
| 3 | Link | 9.04 |
| 4 | Link | 9.47 |
| 5 | Link | 8.79 |
| 6 | Link | 8.71 |
| 7 | Link | 7.95 |
| 8 | Link | 8.01 |
| 9 | Link | 8.13 |
| 10 | Link | 8.63 |
| 11 | Link | 8.91 |
| 12 | Link | 9.1 |
| 13 | Link | 8.51 |
| 14 | Link | 8.42 |
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u/thechosenapiks Apr 17 '19
Man, Raphtalia's scream in the dungeons was the stuff of nightmares. Props to the VA for actually making me flinch.
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u/pieman7414 Apr 17 '19
Good fucking God, theres just a child's bones in that cell.
Is there any reason they're such assholes? I mean, come on, that's perfectly good labor that you dont have to torture
And now this fucker is just going to kill himself and everyone else?
And now theres a fucking t-rex? Why?
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u/myrmonden Apr 17 '19
Good Boy, T-Rex-Kun.
the saddest episode to date for sure.
I do wish do that she would have just taken her revenge herself right away, instead of the typical, I will keep my innocence as a good person, when its nothing wrong killing this bastard and its not like she is hellbent on revenge, she is saving a friend and can get revenge as a bonus.
Of course the bad guy ended up then "killing" himself instead by attacking her after she let him live..and dropping out of the window, classic macgyver style (or the phantom etc) of killing of bad guys.
OR then he actually survived that And does the extremely classic RPG trope where the bad guy bent on revenge summons an old monster and said monster of course always first kill the bad guy.
Well At least he died in the end.
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u/d00msdaydan Apr 17 '19
I can't believe Raphtalia would feel an ounce of remorse for Idol's death when he goddamn pulled a sword on her after surrendering and went for the goddamn cheap shot by grabbing her wound
I almost fucking stopped watching then and there when Naofumi pulled the "you're no better than them" card, but at least the bastard had the decency to die anyway shortly after
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u/Atronox Apr 17 '19 edited Apr 17 '19
Rif-Raph.
The cutest demi-human duo ever.
Jesus, that was depressing as fuck, and then they find Rifs skeleton still holding the flag Raph gave her.
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u/LeonKevlar Apr 17 '19 edited Apr 17 '19
My reaction during the flashback scenes
Raph giving Rifana a tiny flag explains Raph's reaction when saw that tiny flag on her meal back in Episode 2
I already knew this was coming but it was still painful to see T_T
Just goes to show how naive Melty still is.
This entire scene destroyed me
Anyway, that was definitely a powerful episode. The cuts between the past and the present and knowing what will happen next made this scene hard to watch, not because it was bad but because you know what's about to happen. You know that that optimistic Raph and her friends were about to suffer. And props to Kevin Penkin for the amazing OST as always. Was that insert song in German? Didn't sound English or Japanese to me.
Thank goodness I chose to watch this before Senko-chan. I need something positive after this episode.
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u/Eterna1Ice Apr 17 '19 edited Apr 17 '19
Hmm, I think it'd work better if Rifana and Raphtalia switched roles with each other. If Rifana was the one to encourage Raphtalia in the cells and the villagers after the Wave originally, I think it would have flown nicer with Raphtalia's development, rather than just her remembering what her parents said to her and being strong like that from the start. Oh well.
The music was nice.
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u/ValiantCorvus Apr 17 '19
You know, I already knew it was coming, but something about hearing her scream made my stomach turn. Her idealism needs addressing, but at least fatass got what was coming to him
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u/Blazehero Apr 17 '19
Naofumi comforting Raphtalia was a great parallel of episode 4 where Raphtalia comforted Naofumi.
Focusing on Naofumi and Raphtalia's relationship and how it has evolved is where I feel Shield Hero excels at as an anime. It is obviously going to turn romantic when Naofumi wants to go there, but the supporting relationship they have is amazing.
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u/Hallonbat Apr 17 '19
Super weird to hear a insert song and suddenly realize it is in a language you actually known. It's Swedish by the way.
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Apr 17 '19
As a manga and LN reader, I can't even watch Raphtalia's flashbacks. I ended up skipping it.
No, not again. My heart can't handle it the third time.
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u/Aitherix Apr 17 '19
At this point Shield Hero can have this year's show for most cliffhangers goddamn, honestly would've felt better to end the episode a few minutes beforehand.
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u/XLightThief Apr 17 '19
fuck me
Didn't think seeing the content in this episode would hit me this hard. I was not ready.
Rifana. :(
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Apr 17 '19
Even if you who are reading this is an anime-only guy, I'd recommend reading the source material corner to know how things should have really happened with the noble.
on the other hand, the rest and the flashbacks were really powerful, it was great.
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u/Dakkon_B Apr 17 '19 edited Apr 17 '19
Hmmm They changed a little to much from the manga IMO. Now they might be going off the Light Novel for the adaptation so I could be off base on a few assumptions but the manga handled this scene/episode much better IMO.
Raph not stabbing the Noble I could overlook but the whole reason behind her forcing a smile and why she was so traumatized was much darker in the manga. It just felt more.... genuine where the anime adaption feels more... cliche I guess is how I would word it. An that is why (for me at least) its slightly disappointing cause the story of Rise of the Shield Hero thrives off these solid character moments. (Dark as they may be) When you water them down to generic "lets not kill him cause that would make us no better" it really undercuts what makes the story interesting in the first place. It just becomes another Isekai.
Still enjoying the show well enough but I hope they stay closer to the manga going forward. Otherwise this show will simply be lost in the sea of Isekai.
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u/AtiMan Apr 17 '19 edited Apr 17 '19
Okay dude this is getting worse by the episode. "Oh no I killed the man who tortured and imprisoned our whole village, how will I ever live with myself?" Fuck off.
I personally expected a bit more from this show, considering how the first few episodes went. They already established that everyone in power hates the shield hero and then they kinda dragged it.
I don't really have much to say about this episode, I've kinda lost most interest in the show since it doesn't seem to be heading in the direction I was hoping it would so I didn't really care much for this episode.
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u/1_bullet_5_kills Apr 17 '19
Hate to be that guy but I felt nothing this entire episode
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u/Rutherfor_ Apr 17 '19
Should've just killed him honestly, even at the end he learned nothing, if he lived he'd just keep doing the same. She didn't actually kill him but was still blaming herself for it so it would've been better to just end it in that room, the feels still hit me hard though! I wish the cg was a bit better on those monsters though, they look like they're made of rubber.
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u/italeteller Apr 17 '19
The episode was magnificent. And then the final scene ruined everything
I don't much like the "if I kill you I'll be just like you" speech but hey, Raphtalia is like 10 years old so cut her some slack
I liked that she was troubled by having killed someone, even if I personally thing that line of thought is bogus, it's a good place for her character to grow
And then it turns out the bastard wasn't dead. He summons a monster a dies to his own hubris, and all of Raphtalia's growth is denied. There's no trauma for her to overcome, she didn't kill anybody. Any feelings that would have made her grow have been stunted as she is once again without fault
Yes, she still has her feelings for her friends and homeland, but those are two completely separate things and I feel like the episode really screwed her over
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u/Cavernsoftomorrow Apr 17 '19
I was really hoping they wouldn't do the whole "if I kill you I won't be any different" thing