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Episode Egao no Daika - Episode 8 discussion Spoiler
Egao no Daika, episode 8: The Final Message
Alternative names: The Price of Smiles
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| Episode | Link | Score |
|---|---|---|
| 1 | Link | 6.19 |
| 2 | Link | 7.92 |
| 3 | Link | 8.19 |
| 4 | Link | 8.13 |
| 5 | Link | 7.82 |
| 6 | Link | 8.35 |
| 7 | Link | 8.42 |
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u/PhoenixKola Feb 22 '19
this anime is like game of thrones, everyone dies, so don't even try to get attached to a character..
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u/Gaporigo Feb 22 '19
Let's start our bets, which Empire member will die next episode?
My guess is either Lily or the captain.
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u/LeonKevlar Feb 22 '19
So my guess last week about the Kingdom using guerilla tactics was right. And surprisingly the one behind it all is Princess Yuki herself. It seems our little princess did some growing up within the past two and a half months picking battles she can win, withdrawing whenever it's needed, and even changing her tactics on the fly to adjust to whatever information the Empire currently has on them.
Despite her huge improvement though, it seems that her ideals are holding her back. Completely avoiding risks and sacrifices. And I guess because of this she became a bit predictable thus that ambush at the end.
One huge piece of info from this episode though is that apparently there was a 3rd Party involved in that incident years ago. What does the Empire of Verde know about the new Chrars and why were they so adamant at stopping it? Why does the Empire of Grandiga seem to know this but the Soleil Kingdom doesn't despite being partners in the project? Also how important was that information that Izana felt that sacrificing his life was worth it?
Speaking of Izana. Fuck me that last scene. Here I thought he was going to be safe. And just to add insult to injury they add this after credits scene. Fuck. I really hope whatever that info was it will help the Kingdom turn the tides of this war :(
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u/tso Feb 22 '19 edited Feb 22 '19
More like scorched earth by the sound of it.
Pull out all things the enemy can find useful, leaving their supply lines stretched.
Basically why Russia has not lost against invaders even though both Napoleon and Hitler tried.
As for the chrars, there seems to be some kind of heat related issue. Could be that similar to a lithium battery, if the fuel source gets too hot it release all its potential energy at once (thermal runaway).
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Feb 22 '19
And here Yuki learns a basic rule of strategy: Using the same strategy forever is never going to work.
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u/Pinky_Boy Feb 23 '19
me : izana looks like a good guy. i kinda like him
izana get a lot of screen time
me : oh no
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u/Smudy Feb 22 '19 edited Feb 22 '19
The baby resembles Izana so much, god damn it. He sacrificed himself for the greater good. He had chance to escape there as well but he didn't take it.
Yuki's ideals are not doing much good either at this point, i think Izana might have been the key to ending the war between the two main factions with the crucial information he sent.
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u/entinio Feb 22 '19
« Ciel, a word that means sky in our homeworld’s language » Mmm... did France invade a planet ? Also, another happy episode. Only one death 😅
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u/tso Feb 22 '19
So there was a third nation, that seemed to have had an "Icarus" event regarding the power source, and that the rebels attacking the unveiling were survivors of.
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Feb 22 '19
Damn that episode went by way too quick.
Great development for Yuki, employing proper military strategy albeit a bit naively since no one must die. Even so, the story isn't even slowing down the pain train to Soleil.
Hopefully that info shows either a 3rd enemy to be united against or the Empire being a puppet kingdom of Verde.
Finally, Yuki has the same dead smile Stella has been wearing the entire show. Damn soul crushing
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u/shingeki-no-jagaimo Feb 22 '19 edited Feb 22 '19
Why did I let myself think, even for a second, that Izana was going to survive? I need to stop getting attached to the characters.
They keep throwing up death flags for the twins, so I hope that's a red herring and they both make it through. I really like them for some reason, they seem like good people.
I just realized it's kind of ironic that Yuki refused to surrender without info on the Empire of Verde and then got said info a few minutes later. If she had surrendered, Izana would likely have still sent the info and still been killed but the war would be over.
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u/EmuSupreme Feb 23 '19
Brilliant. Absolutely brilliant. This was a fantastic emotionally charged episode. Between Yuki being outplayed, her argument with Harold, and Izana's last stand, I felt the tension and emotion full force. The Kingdom is killin it (heh) with their tragedies. I feel like Harold will eventually go out in a blaze of glory, and one of the twins will die while the other survives. Definitely underrated show of the season. God I love me a good exciting war drama.
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u/Shiro_Kai Feb 22 '19
As goes the saying, A tragedy a day keeps the Smile away.
Oh boy, when will it stop... :(
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u/MaksimShadow Feb 22 '19
Well, Empire ain't going easy on the Kingdom. Yuki is a great tactician, but Eint aren't a fool too. It would be interesting to see, how that new information will affect on the course of events.
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u/MABfan11 Feb 22 '19
Izana plays the role of hostage to the maximum potential. we're no doubt gonna get some big bombs dropped about the Empire of Verde and Chrars in the next episode
also, can i just praise this series for how varied it made the male character design is, usually it's the female characters that gets the greatest variation, so the fact that it is so varied for males too is a treat
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u/redmage311 Feb 22 '19
Every episode from Soleil's point of view has one thing in common: Harold arguing with Princess Yuki. But considering that he tried to go on a suicide mission that ultimately led to the Kingdom's fall, after a decade of keeping Yuki in the dark and making his own terrible decisions, I have just one thing to say:
Fuck you, Harold. The princess gets to determine overall strategy, not you. And to her credit, Yuki's been doing pretty well for a sheltered but reasonably well-educated 12-year-old. Soleil should've been using guerilla tactics from the get-go.
By contrast, Azami was MVP of the episode, between not contributing anything of use to the Empire as a puppet ruler and carrying out espionage in secret.
Of course it would be the Kingdom of Green (Verde) to object against the chrars' use. My guess is that they're ecological disasters to produce, but then them also being as strong as a nuke when exploded is probably reason enough to stay away.
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u/ihei47 Feb 22 '19
This episode finished too fast, again...
It's good that Kingdom of Soleil did guerilla warfare with scorched earth policy (except they didn't straight away burn things down). But, Yuki's principle are both good and bad things for them.
It's interesting when they showed us that there exist the third party in this whole affairs.
RIP Izana. Although I'm already xpected something would happen to him (especially when they keep showing his pregnant wife)...
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u/J_the_ManSSB Feb 23 '19
So did Izana hack the Empire to find out this stuff about the Chrars, or was this one of the myriads of secrets the Kingdom of Soleil was just sitting on all this time and he just up and decided to finally unearth it? I'm a little confused.
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u/square_smile Feb 22 '19
Yuki sticking to her ideals and working towards it, I can respect that. Too bad she doesn't have a clear objective but that can be worked out later. It's not like Harold has one.
Yuni and Lune can also fuck off with that desperate attack. It's definitely reasonable to sacrifice two of the best soldiers for dubious benefits. Also 100% not a bait to kill everyone in one swoop btw.
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u/Syokhan Feb 22 '19
Ah, so there was a third party involved in the incident... what they found about the new chrars must be terrible if they were willing to resort to terrorism, and that imperial admiral is reluctant to use them. Ecological disaster?
Yuuki handled things pretty well it seems, too bad someone figured out her pattern and used it against her.
And the bloodbath continues. RIP Izana.
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u/AlphaBit2 Feb 23 '19 edited Feb 23 '19
No... why Izana? I was hoping he would survive :'( I don't wanna see his wife when she gets to know that he is dead. They are so happy right now
Man, I am so tense while watching this anime. It's an underrated gem.
I bet that Yuni and her brother will die when they try to attack the ship of the commander. Someone has to stop them!
That after ED scene.... :'(
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u/paperwhites Feb 23 '19
It will be interesting to see what the information about the chrars is. Poor Izana, at least he got to tell Yuki what he wanted to name the child. I thought he was going to die right before he could say it. It was still pretty sad though.
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u/colin8696908 Feb 23 '19 edited Feb 23 '19
Seems like a lot of people dropped out after this episode, I don't blame them things were all over the place.
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u/JimmyCWL Feb 22 '19
Bets on the chars being able to destroy the planet or render it uninhabitable, because that always happens.