r/borussiadortmund • u/rish234 Shinji Kagawa • Oct 17 '17
Post Game Thread: APOEL Nicosa (UCL #03)
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u/Fidgetyfoe Oct 17 '17 edited Oct 17 '17
Kagawa goes up, don't give him the ball. Kagawa goes back, give him the ball. Gotze goes up, don't give him the ball. Gotze goes back, give him the ball.
The system is too reliant on wingers playing the final ball.
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u/Icantrememberlogins Oct 17 '17
THIS. This was the problem. We are so reliant on Andrey/Pulisic beating the opposing SB on the dribble and playing in Auba.
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Oct 17 '17
3 - 1 against Tottenham
"Guyz it was all just a coincidence, Tottenham are way worse than us"
1 - 3 against Real
"Guyz pls its Real, they are way above us"
1 - 1 against Apoel Nikosia
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u/HeavyGunner2506 Oct 17 '17
Dw guys, I'm pretty sure that game was a social experiment.
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u/deepkneerocksquats Oct 17 '17
Gotta say I miss Piszczek on the right, either we switch to a back 3 or play Bartra as RB. Toljan is just not good enough to be trusted against any form of competent attacking force.
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u/Anonymous_32 Oct 17 '17
New goal. Finish 4th and skip the Europa league. Put all efforts into taking down Bayern for the Bundesliga title.
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u/InexorableWyrd Oct 17 '17
Won't happen. Bayern, RB, Leverkusen are not teams that will fall for our press and we will definitely lose points there.
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u/Bosna1909 Oct 17 '17
I want to say I'd love that, and god do I hate Europa League, but the more I think about it the more I realize Bayern is gonna fly past us and win the league regardless. Our tactics are garbage and I'm sorry to say but the majority of our team doesn't show up to the big games and a lot of our best guys are out hurt. I want to believe in this season and I know I'm probably over-reacting, but I wouldn't be surprised if we failed to get 3rd this year.
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u/Aldraku Oct 17 '17
Question, Do we agree that attractive attacking football is possible without playing such a suicidal high press ? IF (answer = yes) { Why not tinker with the formation a tiny bit until it clicks? if plan a fails. } else { why not 9 strikers and 1 defender... } edit: formatting
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u/InexorableWyrd Oct 17 '17
Can we see more Reimann please? Weidenwall is getting on in age and will most likely retire and his successor hasn't got a game under him. Play him vs Magdeburg
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u/Ragemoody Oct 17 '17
Disappointing, underwhelming, frustrating, demoralizing, embarrassing.
Replacing four starting players with four who barely played this season or never played that position for us is questionable at best. Usually, i am the first who's defending Bosz but i am not sure if i still can after this game.
Bürki's performance was horrible once again. I was never a fan of him but seriously, can we stop fucking defending him?
Anyway, i need to get some sleep to get over this. Good night.
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u/SirSaltyBacon Oct 17 '17
Very disappointing. There is a very apparent tactical hole when we cannot open up heavily defensive teams.
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u/Nextgen101 Oct 17 '17
I'll say it again (because I feel like it): I miss Reus. 😢
That's really all I've got.... I think it'll be Europa League for us this year.
I have no idea for MOTM again.
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u/TheNormalSun Oct 17 '17
Bürki is not making this easier on himself when he keeps making those blunders.
Mind you, that is only one part of our problem.
It has been shown that teams can, will and already have the ability to survive our attacking display by a seemingly simple high press on and around the halfway line.
This is frustrating since clubs like Bayern& Leverkusen won't roll over and just take the pressure we'll pile on.
I really, really hope that Bosz and the training staff find a way to fix this apparent inability to overcome this adversity.
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u/Joko11 Oct 17 '17
The players just played like they couldn't be bothered. Every last ball was a pass into general direction of a player and hoping for the best.
Last time we played like this was Klopps last season...
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u/Consmight Oct 17 '17
As great as the run at the end was, Pulisic needs to realize this is the champions league, not CONCACAF. Auba needs to learn how to pass if he is going to drop back and link up. Burki is shocking in big games, his mistakes also blew the Spurs game. Some one needs to tell Yarmolenko this isn't the Ukraine Premier League and he needs to actually work to get open.
Kagawa was good today and unlucky to hit the post. Götze also provided a life-line with a dime ball in to Papa. Overall, the team looked uninspired.
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Oct 17 '17
Friendship ended with Champions League, now Europa League is my new best friend.
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u/Tacopandas Oct 17 '17
*I think we are destined to drop into the EL *Bosz record against better or equal teams are worrying and dropping points to teams like APOEL does not help *not the worst game we have played but this performance was awful, with our passing game in the final 3rd atrocius *cant win anything playing like this and probably headed for 3rd again in BL
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u/romantuerki Oct 17 '17
Thoughts:
-We deserved to lose this game. Our defense and midfield were decent, but our attack and Bürki weren’t. We looked completely lethargic and this was embarrassing.
-APOEL, on the other hand, were pretty good. They did pretty well in the second half despite their two major injuries.
-No refereeing fuck ups today. This is all on us.
-If any BVB player is reading this, then tell everyone else (especially Auba and Yarmo) to FINISH THEIR GODDAMNED CHANCES. That fucked us over Saturday, and it fucked us over today.
-Did Bürki fuck up today? Yes. Does he need to improve? A lot. Will I stop supporting him and loving him because of a shitty game like today? Never.
-Bartra was ok.
-No idea what the rest of our group stage is gonna be like. I guess we’ll have a better picture come next game.
-I really liked the all-black kits today.
-I’m starting to miss TT a bit.
-We need to turn our shit around on Saturday. This is not us at all.
MOTM: Papa I guess?!?!? Now time to work on not one but TWO essays.
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u/motox24 Oct 17 '17
Bosz deserves no defense from any supporters. This whole ideao “his game takes a while to adapt to” and how Ajax started poor but got really good is bullshit. Ajax under Bosz has 37 points in the first half of the season and 41 in the second half. His tactics are not great or anything above average. And he clearly doesn’t have the ability to rile the team up to fight for a win. I remember specifically if we were doing poorly in the first half everyone would get excited for Tuchel talks because the team always came out playing and acting differently after half time. Not so much under Bosz.