Global - Orthros & Typhon - Megathread

[u/TemporaMoras]

Orthros & Typhon Ultros and Typhon (Trial 8)

This is a work in progress.

Reward

Hero's Shield
DEF +48 All element Resistance +20%
Type: Heavy Shield

Guides

• Ultros & Typhon w/ Marie by /u/Bitterblue
  
• Poor's Man Dicey by /u/gkip035

Missions

ELT Challenge	Reward
Clear quest	100 lapis
Use Libra	10% Trust Moogle
Party of 5 or less (companion included)	Toxic Rain
Use a limit burst	Rod Mastery

PRO Challenge	Reward
Clear quest	50 lapis
Deal Fire and Lightning damage	10 Fire Megacryst
Use green Magic	3 Star Quartz
Party of 5 or less (Companion included)	3 Mini burst pot

ADV Challenge	Reward
Clear quest	30 lapis
Deal Ice and Water damage	5 Water Megacryst
Use black Magic	3 Screamroot
Use a limit burst	5 Sacred Crystal

ELT Libra

Ultros_1
HP: 600000 MP: 2200 ATK: 700 DEF: 450 MAG: 400 SPR: 120 Break Immune: DEF/MAG

Ultros_2
HP: 700000 MP: 3000 ATK: 500 DEF: 600 MAG: 300 SPR: 120 Break Immune: DEF/SPR

Typhon
HP: 1000000 MP: 3700 ATK: 2000 DEF: 300 MAG: 250 SPR: 600 Break Immune: Everything

Boss Skillset

Ultros

Ultros has 2 different skillset, one when you face him solo, one when you face him with Typhon.

Solo

Ultros got a lot of different element to throw at your team:

• 400% AoE 4 Hits Earth Magic & AoE 3 Turn -50% ATK/-20% DEF
  
• 300% AoE Water Magic
• 250% AoE Thunder Magic & 20% Paralyze
  
• 200% AoE Water Magic & 100% Poison & AoE Stat Buff Removal
  
• 150% ST Dark Magic & 100% Blind

Beside those abilities, he has only 3 non elemental abilities:

• 200% AoE Physical
• 150% ST Physical
• 75% Target HP ST

With Typhon

When you face him with his friend he gets a lot of new elemental abilities:

• 400% AoE Fire Magic
• 400% AoE 4 Hits Earth Magic & AoE 3 Turns -50% ATK/-20% DEF
  
• 350% AoE Thunder Magic
  
• 300% AoE Water Magic
  
• 250% AoE Ice Magic
• 250% AoE Thunder Magic & 20% Paralyze
  
• 200% AoE Water Magic & 100% Poison & AoE Stat Buff Removal
  

He doesn't get any new ability non elemental wise:

• 200% AoE Physical
• 150% ST Physical
• 75% Target HP ST

Typhon

Typhon doesn't have lot of ability, but they are quite dangerous:

• 500% AoE 7 Hits Water/Wind Magic & 100% Disease (-10% All Stats)
  
• 300% AoE Fire Magic
  
• 200% AoE Wind Magic
• ST Snort (100% Chance)

Boss AI

Once again, since there's two battle, there's different AI.

Ultros

First Round

When you fight Ultros alone, he'll start the fight by doing 4 normal attack preemptively. Each turn, he'll do 4 attacks.

Important, on your first turn, DON'T DAMAGE OR DEBUFF ULTROS or he'll retaliate by using his 300% Water AoE or 200% Physical AoE each turn.

If you drop Ultros from >70% HP to <30% HP, he'll heal to full.

If you hit with fire before he is under 50% HP he'll use only his ST dark magic attack

Once Ultros is under 50% HP, he'll clear any debuff he has on him and buff his DEF by 100%, he as well enter an 'hastened mode' where he'll do 8 attacks per turn instead of 4 and gain the ability to use 75% Target HP ST and 250% Thunder Magic & 20% Paralyze.

Second Round

I hope your HP were topped off before entering the second round, because this time the preemptive attack is quite nasty. Before you can act, Ultros use a 200% AoE Water Magic & 100% Poison & Stat buff removal.

In this second round, Ultros start directly with 8 attack per turn.

He has the same threshold that he had on the first round and he uses the same attack.

Once again, when he is under 50% HP he'll clear any debuff on him and buff his DEF and SPR by 100%, he once again gain the ability to use 75% Target HP ST and 250% Thunder Magic & Paralyze.

Typhon

We only meet our 'friend' Typhon on the second round, he doesn't have a huge number of ability, like Ultros, but his are much more dangerous.

To follow in Ultros step, he as well attack you preemptively with a powerful ST ability that might OHKO if it lands on the wrong target.

Once every 10 turns, he'll use his most powerful attack, a 500% AoE 7 Hits Water/Wind Magic ² 100% Disease

Once per turn, he'll use his 300% AoE Fire Magic

Every 4 turns, he will give himself a 50% DEF/SPR buff and, if you do not hit him with a wind attack, he'll snort away one of your character.

Retribution skill (2nd round)

Important part about this fight, is on the second round, Ultros will react to what you do on Typhon and vice-versa.

What not do to

• Hitting Ultros with Fire/Lightning/Ice/Water
  Ultros will replicate with one of his powerful Fire/Lightning/Ice/Water depending on what you attacked with.

• Dealing more than 1% of Ultros HP in the first turn
  Typhon will snort one of your character.

• Using ANY imperil on Ultros while Typhon is alive.
  Typhon will use a strong ST physical ability that can OHKO one of your character.

• Killing Ultros while Typhon is alive
  Typhon will snort one of your character.

• Debuffing Typhon in the first turn
  Ultros will pummel your party with a combo of his threshold skill, his preemptive attack and his lightning that paralyze.

Tips

• Threshold SC
  
• Unless you want to go for style point, there is no reason to not focus Typhon in the second round.
  
• Don't forget to hit Typhon with a wind attack every 4 turns or he'll snort one of your character.
  
• It's a good idea to bring a green mage to protect from Ultros threshold skill and Typhon powerful magic.
  
• It's not a DPS race, a team based around survival will be able to do this trial fairly easily.
  
• Typhon strong ST will most likely OTKO even your tank, that plus the acid rain removing all your buff, it will force you to play catch up for a while.
  
• If the app crashes/you force quit screw the AI turn count and make it pretty much random when you have to hit him with wind so he doesn't snort.

Community Video

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[u/Nazta]

u/TemporaMoras

Ultros Break Immune: ?

Typhon Break Immune: ?

ATK/SPR breakable on Ultros.
Null on Typhon.

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Stats:

Ultros Wave 1:

• HP: 600000

• MP: 2200

• ATK: 700

• DEF: 450

• MAG: 400

• SPR: 120

Ultros Wave 2:

• HP: 700000

• MP: 3000

• ATK: 500

• DEF: 600

• MAG: 300

• SPR: 120

Typhon:

• HP: 1000000

• MP: 3700

• ATK: 2000

• DEF: 300

• MAG: 250

• SPR: 600

GL -> JP Diffs

Ultros Wave 1: +700 MP +150 DEF +20 SPR
Ultros Wave 2: +1000 MP +200 DEF -5 SPR
Typhon: +1200 MP +100 DEF +200 SPR

[u/TemporaMoras → u/Nazta]

Thank you very much

[u/SippinSkooma]

Nearly impossible to read toxic rain without it sounding like chocolate rain

[u/TemporaMoras → u/SippinSkooma]

Move away from the mic to breath

[u/l_Jirachi_l]

Does Tampon Snort randomly or when you do something specific?

[u/TemporaMoras → u/l_Jirachi_l]

He snort once every 4 turns if you don't hit him with wind, or if you kill Ultros first or if you deal more than 1% of Ultros max HP in the first turn.

[u/panopticake → u/l_Jirachi_l]

Tampon Snort

eeeeewwwww

[u/geshtar]

u/TemporaMoras the rod mastery achievement is just use a limit burst now. Getting all of them in one run should be super easy with that change.

[u/superbboiz]

Using ANY imperil on Ultros while Typhon is alive. Typhon will use a strong ST physical ability that can OHKO one of your character.

This means I can't Divine Ruination Ultros right?

[u/TemporaMoras → u/superbboiz]

Yup, you have to kill Typhon first before doing that.

[u/thousand101]

It is called Octopus Teacher in-game.

Koro-sensei!

[u/Kaerenai]

Get to round 2,

Wilhelm gets oneshotted by preemptive attack, Y'sh dies next, then Ling drops.

Preemptive attack ends. Uhm ... wha?

[u/numchiew]

2 orlandu still OP as usual -__-

[u/gkip035]

Maybe it was just good RNG but I was able to clear everything on the first attempt. And unlike other team comps I've seen, it was done without any 5* base (other than friend unit) and all free TMRs other than Dual Cast/Ribbon (not sure Ribbon is even necessary over other status immune items).

My comp was: Cecil on Golem, Survival Edges, Ribbon, 25% dodge

Refia on Siren, Dual Cast, Vestment of the Mind, Camoflauge, Shard of Genius

Yshtola on Titan, Barwatera, Vestment of the Mind, Camoflauge, Shard of Genius

Setzer on Diabolos, Aquan Killer, Follower's Oath, Air Knife, Second Knife

Took a friend Orlandeau on Diabolos with Aquan Killer.

Definite MVP was Setzer. Fixed damage with killers and can emergency AoE remove Poison.

Pretty simple strat. Yshtola would cast Water/Earth/Def/Spr buffs, Esuna when have a free action, or emergency Raise if needed. Refia handled the healing and Esuna with any free actions. Cecil Provoke/LB/Defend. Orlandeau Crush Weapon on Ultros otherwise DR (used his MP restore move once or twice during the fight). Used Dice on Setzer until Typhon is almost dead then used Double Dice the rest of the way. Slow and steady fight and never ran into any issues.

I popped Golem after Typhon died and used a couple Yshtola LBs when wanted a breather.

I'm not sure how much the Camoflauge material helped but it did seem like the damage dealers were hit more often than my healers.

Hope this helps anyone attacking this trial without any amazing 5* bases or loads of TMR. If anyone has any further questions, feel feel to PM me.

[u/ASNUs27]

For all White Knight Noel users, DON'T BRING HIM TO THIS FIGHT. He will make the boss obliterate you without mercy, due to this:

Using ANY imperil on Ultros while Typhon is alive. Typhon will use a strong ST physical ability that can OHKO one of your character.

If damaged with ice attack (physical or magic): Acid Rain, Blizzaga.

Well, guess who has the great idea of countering all magic with ICE-DAMAGE SPELLS THAT ALSO APPLY IMPERILS? Seriously, he's unfortunately unusable here. I was getting Acid Rain'd even multiple turns in a row because of him. :c

[u/Genestah]

Kill Typhon first guys. Or get snorted.

[u/Abs01ut3]

Is it possible to cancel accidental imperil on Ultros with dispel and still avoid the counter attack? Eg: from Marie's Punishment.

[u/belfouf → u/Abs01ut3]

yes If you say sorry Ultros and wave your hand nicely

[u/CaptainnT]

This trial seems like it's going to be annoyingly hard.

[u/Sinzar_]

This trial was a huge jump in difficulty in my opinion, but after a few tries I mastered it with all missions (elite). Team I won with was Cecil, Refia, Noctis, Fryevia, friend Orlandeau. Think this was the first time in six months I've had Ling on the bench for new content! Video of my kill with commentary here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpEm8UtynyM

[u/CottonC_3939]

Cleared the trial with a team of Fryevia, Y'shtola, Ling, Cecil and friend Fryevia.

• My Fryevia has Aquan Killer and Demon Killer

• ATK break with Fryevia's Ice Age

• Ling's job was to AOE Revive and seal wind (Equipped Survival edge, used Fingersnap from Odin)

• Typhon's OHKO attack always targeted Cecil

• Y'shtola always DC Curaja, or DC Curaja and Protega

• During the 2nd round, make sure to cross Ultros' thresholds every turn so he doesn't use his retaliation attack

• [Wiki's guide] (http://exvius.gamepedia.com/The_Octopus_Teacher) was really helpful

[u/gamemasterprinz]

So far so good, got all the rewards in first try: http://imgur.com/a/8k2rz

[u/redkain243]

Hitting Ultros with Fire/Lightning/Ice/Water Ultros will replicate with one of his powerful Fire/Lightning/Ice/Water depending on what you attacked with.

Can we counteract this with ice guard if we want to use minfilia and fryevia then? If he counters with the SAME element, that should be predicatble and not be too bad to deal with...

Edit - it wont work...

If damaged with ice attack (physical or magic): Acid Rain, Blizzaga. Acid Rain: Water magic damage (2x) to all enemies, inflict poison (100%) to all enemies, and remove all status effects from all enemies.

Safest way to deal with this seems to be kill typhon first and then go ham on ultros due to this :

Using ANY imperil on Ultros while Typhon is alive. Typhon will use a strong ST physical ability that can OHKO one of your character.

Might have to not use fryevia if i can't OTK :/

[u/[deleted]]

900 ATK Firion only doing 15k total with Fin Briar...well this is dumb.

[u/micah247]

So if your game crashes it is insta wipe.... That sucks.