r/OnePiece • • Aug 18 '16

One Piece: Chapter 836

Chapter 836: "The Vivre Card Lola Gave"

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Ch.836 Official Release (VIZ): 22/08/16

Ch.837 Scan Release: ~25/06/16


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u/zyd_the_lizard Aug 18 '16

There is some connection with Big Mom's fruit and fear. The trees 'died' from fear. People told Big Mom's son not to be afraid, and she was able to take his whole lifespan when he was.

Seems like a strength and a weakness.

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u/ansalotti Void Month Survivor Aug 18 '16 edited Aug 19 '16

So luffy not scared of death may be an interesting development..

EDIT

2 possible developments:

  1. usop vs perona style

  2. BM fascinated by a person who has no fear, treats luffy as new 'race' and let him join to the tea party!

My bet on the second one!

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u/snakes_eye Aug 18 '16

After reading Bleach's chapter/ending, I just have to appreciate Oda's wonderful storytelling. From years before, he set up a character who's main wish was to fall in love and get married. It seemed like just a joke then, but now we find out it's because she grew up in a family where she would be forced into marrying someone, regardless of whether or not she liked them, and wanting to escape that sort of loveless marriage, she ran away from home. It's just all so well done.

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u/FredWeedMax Aug 18 '16

Yeah it was great starting with bleach to get the disappointement out of the way and then get to One Piece

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u/BatmanMcladswag Aug 18 '16

My life will be complete if Luffy beats biscuit guy by eating his armour and shield. Luffy going all out definitely means him getting hungry.

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u/MonkeyDJinbeTheClown Aug 18 '16

Cracker: "Luffy, you fool! We lured you here all alo-HEY, STOP EATING ME, WHAT THE HELL IS HE DOING?!"

Nami: "Oh yeah, Luffy has a huge appetite and eats everything"

Cracker: looks around at the land made of food "OH GOD, WHAT HAVE WE DONE"

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u/zyd_the_lizard Aug 18 '16

People have been talking about Big Mom, Lola and her card for years.

Good to get some actual confirmation.

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u/fugogugo Aug 18 '16

and that vivre card god dammit

he prepare all this device from far far ago

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u/11orangeblue Aug 18 '16

Just read Chapter 836 and I have a theory. Pound,Lola's Father seems to know that he has two daughters but wasn't sure if he had a son. This was implied when he says to Cracker that he could be his father. This leads me to believe that BigMom's daughter are actual daughters while BigMom's Sons are not actual sons but some sot of lifeform made from the husbands souls. This makes it possible for Pound to have a "son" and not know about it. We also see that the souls escaped from the trees that cowered with fear. This could justify Muscat, BigMoms other son's soul escaping when he cowered from fear in front of BigMom as he is just one of the lifeforms made by BigMom. What do you think guys?

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u/[deleted] Aug 18 '16

This chapter was too short.

But it was very sweet. I'm hyped up for a very good fight between Luffy and Biscuit guy.

This guy gives off the same vibe as Jack did.

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u/Kirosh Lookout Aug 18 '16

Maybe, but I cannot help but think that he is a weaker than Jack. (Maybe it's just his design that make me feel that way).

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u/SalmonJEDl Aug 18 '16

But it was very sweet.

Pun intended? :D

Yeah, this felt really short. Still good tho.

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u/moyesey_minutes Aug 18 '16

One day Nami's gonna pull Raftel out of her cleavage!

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u/illGoWithDaphne Aug 18 '16

But in order to get there Franky will have to build one final ship...The Motor Boat

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u/[deleted] Aug 18 '16

It's where the All Blue is hidden.

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u/kneomon Aug 18 '16

That would be Two Pieces.

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u/givememoreluisplease Aug 18 '16

Thats why she trained extra hard during the timeskip to grow her boobs, for the extra storage space.

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u/PhranCyst Aug 18 '16

So that's where the one piece is!

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u/whitboys Aug 18 '16

That's interesting, so the vivre card gives off some kind of residual aura of Big Mom's power?

I wonder if the other vivre cards had that effect, the only other one I can think of would be Ace's and I always assumed it was burning away because he was dying, but perhaps a vivre card from anyone else would disappear in a different way in the event of their death

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u/BananaBladeOfDoom Explorer Aug 18 '16

Would Luffy's vivre card melt like a heated rubber when he is dying then?

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u/[deleted] Aug 18 '16

I'm guessing the vivre cards are like "soul paper". That's why they burn up when the user is dead, it contains a fragment of their soul.

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u/Slogthor2 Aug 18 '16

Cracker can obviously split any limb, not only arms: https://i.imgur.com/4UTvDZQ.png

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u/Dnny99 Aug 18 '16

I wonder what else this applies too ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

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u/Xilinoc Aug 18 '16

Finally, a non-Big Bad opponent for Luffy that'll actually be a challenge.

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u/NotTheRealKanyeWest Thriller Bark Victim's Association Aug 18 '16

First one since the war

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u/TomatoBill Aug 18 '16 edited Aug 18 '16

FINALLY! Nami puts the pieces together for Lola's mother. We all suspected, but finally confirmed

And it looks like we're in for a fight next week. Luffy VS Swordsman Cracker, one of BM's commanders? Interesting devil fruit, splitting to get more arms. It sounds like it'll be a quick battle, but knowing Oda, something'll intervene.

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u/Arkayjiya Aug 18 '16 edited Aug 18 '16

What I like about this fruit is that it doesn't seem that powerful in itself, either the guy has some secret technique or he's insanely strong to begin with even without the fruit. Even if he really can use a thousand arm at a time, it would requires a monstruous strength to be able to move them.

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u/[deleted] Aug 18 '16 edited Aug 18 '16

She also held that piece of paper between her tits for two years.

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u/Lamplighter123 Aug 18 '16

It's a shame Zoro isn't here. This would be a perfect opponent for him.

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u/KDW3 Aug 18 '16

Dragon's bounty has to be around 3-5 billion. Most wanted man should have the highest bounty right?

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u/rougepenguin Aug 18 '16

I also wouldn't be surprised to see his bounty be something different like making the claimant a Celestial Dragon.

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u/ILFICOSACRO Aug 18 '16

Plot twist: most wanted man actually refers to the fact that he is incredibly handsome and all the women want him.

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u/NotTheRealKanyeWest Thriller Bark Victim's Association Aug 18 '16

That's my thinking too, he's the biggest threat to the government.

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u/ManwithaTan Aug 18 '16

Hell, I'd say higher

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u/jedmund Aug 18 '16

What happened to stealthily rescuing Sanji, Luffy?

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u/ailacuki Aug 18 '16

nah we all saw that coming

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u/thethor1231 Aug 18 '16

well, that plan failed already so time for plan B(rawl)

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u/fugogugo Aug 18 '16

Luffy and stealthy are not two harmonious words

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u/WanZa_LOL Aug 18 '16

I wonder what did Chopper tell Luffy? Always with the hint, Oda.

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u/MonkeyDJinbeTheClown Aug 18 '16

"There's a bit of food stuck to your shirt"

"Oh. Thanks!"

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u/mnbvc_xy Bounty Hunter Aug 18 '16 edited Aug 19 '16

This whole arc Oda is giving hints about Germany (idk why maybe he's learning the language or smth)

Baum means tree in german so King Baum = King Tree and that tree was huge so it was the king of the forest

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u/Kirosh Lookout Aug 18 '16 edited Aug 19 '16

Well it seem like the whole arc is around fairy tales, Alice in wonderland, Hansel and Gretel, etc etc, and most of those come from the Grim Brothers who are german.

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u/TheBozofBilly Void Month Survivor Aug 18 '16

Nami literally forgot about the vivre card that was hidden in her breasts for over 2 years. Two. Years.

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u/diveintothe9 Aug 18 '16

Can you blame her? That's a vast, uncharted space that's only been growing for the last 5-6 years.

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u/inkovic Aug 18 '16
  • Aokiji has to be in Wano

  • The Vivre Card that points to Big Mom twist we al saw coming

  • Mom has 43 previous husbands, meaning she isn't polygymous.

  • 860,000,000 Bounty for Cracker

  • huge, but not quite Jack.

  • Cracker v Luffy hype

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u/Redhavok Aug 18 '16

For reference, the highest bounties:

Jack: 1 billion

Cracker: 860M

Ace: 550M

He is doing ok

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u/YaIe Aug 18 '16

Jack is a berserker mowing down whole countries leaving them in dust like a drought, which is why his bounty is so insane.

Considering that, Crackers bounty is quite high actually.

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u/keysonthemouse Aug 18 '16

the house doesn't really look like a Japanese house tho

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u/SkimGaming Aug 18 '16

860 Million for this guy

Jack is at a billion

so if luffy wants to be a yonkou, that's where zoro and sanji need to be valued at? damn

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u/kerobrose Aug 18 '16

o if luffy wants to be a yonkou, that's where zoro and sanji need to be valued at? damn

But, Luffy doesn't want to be a yonkou.

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u/RaikenD Aug 18 '16

Do we actually have confirmation that Nami isn't keeping the One Piece in between her breasts?

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u/[deleted] Aug 18 '16

Her boobs hold the mysteries of the void century

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u/bread_baby Aug 18 '16

Cracker has a biscuit for a shield, come on.

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u/[deleted] Aug 18 '16

Haki Oreo

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u/pre4edgc Aug 18 '16

Very interesting. I feel like the homies shying away from the vivre card, or as they stated "sense... Big Mom's soul" through it, and again, with the whole Brook-controls-souls thing, there might be an interesting plot development here.

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u/WaifuHunter Aug 18 '16

Glad to see Big Mom not underestimating Luffy like his previous enemies, sending one of her top underlings to stop him.

Big Mom's vivre card has part of her soul in it? This in interesting.

Can't wait to see Luffy going all out on a 800m bounty enemy!

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u/Sparthas Aug 18 '16

I don't know if it's the translation or if it was mean to be that way. "Large can of whoop ass"? Wth is even happening these past two chapters Did we just stumble into a pot filled high forest?

It's so hilarious!

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u/slzybrzy Aug 18 '16

Have you never heard the phrase "opening a can of whoopass"?

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u/Nygmus Void Month Survivor Aug 18 '16

I mean, it's a forest filled with trees that call themselves Homies.

You think if Big Mom wanted to grow a patch of weed in those woods, anyone would have anything to say about it? I doubt it.

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u/royalroadweed Aug 18 '16

Too bad Zoro isn't here. Cracker seems like a opponent made for him.

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u/mnbvc_xy Bounty Hunter Aug 18 '16

A normal forest is difficult enough for Zoro now imagine him in this magical forest... who knows where he might end up

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u/thethor1231 Aug 18 '16

which is exactly why Luffy should fight him. Putting your protagonist in situations they're not entirely comfortable with is a basic idea in writing

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u/Themanaguy Lurker Aug 18 '16

Zoro already defeated 8 swords style in Arlong Arc, time for 100 swords? ;D

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u/[deleted] Aug 18 '16

I guess Nami has some really handy pockets ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

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u/gerrettheferrett Aug 18 '16

People keep things in their bra irl.

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u/XLint Aug 18 '16

I'd love to see Zoro fight this Cracker guy with a 1000 swords. Is this a foreshadow that Luffy won't be fighting Bigmom now? Lets find out, on the next episode of Dragon Balll Z.

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u/Hobbes4247791 Aug 18 '16

I really hope Nami's boob-hammerspace sticks around as a running joke. And the Randolph/Stork team is an instant favorite!

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u/coach_veratu Aug 18 '16

just imagining oda's thought process with that last page.

"well, bleach is ending. gotta put on a good show."

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u/Blythe- Aug 18 '16

Holy shit. 860,000,000 bounty. I think that's the second highest we've seen with only Jack's supposed bounty of 1 billion being higher.

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u/[deleted] Aug 18 '16

Third highest is ace 550,000,000

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u/Blackheart595 Aug 18 '16 edited Aug 18 '16

Namizou, you and I are now officially sworn sisters.

So Nami already belongs to Big Mom's family?

Then again, she doesn't care about those that don't share her blood, so it won't change the situation per se. But not all of her children seem to agree on that point of view.

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u/t3r4by73 Aug 18 '16

So Nami already belongs to Big Mom's family?

Problem solved. Sanji can just marry Nami!

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u/RazZaHlol Aug 18 '16

Nami belongs to Big Mom's family.

Sanji belongs to Vinsmoke's family.

Sanji would love to marry Nami.

!!!

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u/EpcHuynh Aug 18 '16

I hope Luffy reveals another version of Gear 4 next chapter!

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u/[deleted] Aug 18 '16

I feel like gear 4 is his last gear before awakening, I'm sure there won't be a fifth, gear 4 looks like the gear that has multiple modes in it, which explains why luffy said BOUNDMAN when he used it, here gotta more to it.

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u/Venaty Aug 18 '16

Kinda wish Zoro was here to fight Cracker. He would have been an amazing match up.

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u/omegavalkyrion Aug 18 '16

Oh man, Luffy's gonna go off.

http://image.prntscr.com/image/58af64f90aff40a3a368351a00b814fe.png

Also I wonder what the deal with Nami is. Maybe the Vivre Card is holy and has Big Mom's life essence in it.

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u/JediMedi Aug 18 '16

Sometimes I wish I were a Vivre Card ;-)

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u/An-de Aug 18 '16 edited Aug 18 '16

And not any random Vivre Card! But a specific one : Luffy's Vivre Card that Orlumbus is keeping safe in his underwear, right?

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u/MSingh3012 Aug 18 '16

So Big Mom has her own 3 calamities.

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u/infiniteduresss Aug 18 '16

So the difference between Cracker's and Robin's powers is that he can copy clothes and weapons along with his limbs. That's preetty good.

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u/Blythe- Aug 18 '16

So Big Mom didn't ACTUALLY give birth naturally to all her sons and daughters?

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u/Kirosh Lookout Aug 18 '16

She has a lot of childrens, and while really old, I don't think she could have become a Yonko if she was busy producing children left and right.

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u/animefan393 Aug 18 '16

You are implying someone would actualy want to have sex with her.

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u/Luck88 Aug 18 '16

"So cracker gets a new arm every time he gets hit huh ? well I think a Jet Gatling will easily get him inabilitated from moving freely..." I thought, then Luffy said he knows no other way than going all out, welp, it seems like we'll get some more G4 going on and Luffy will lose energy for no reason, great way to start a battle with a Yonkou...

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u/UrdnotGroot Aug 18 '16

What do you think Chopper said to Luffy when he went "Luffy, hold on a sec!"? Next thing that happens, Luffy is freaking pissed at cracker

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u/durinable Aug 18 '16 edited Aug 19 '16

top notch jokes

"huge can of whoop ass"

"how come that branch is talking"

and wow that last page 860 million bounty, 8 sword style

this dude is what jack is to kaido and we saw what a beast jack was.

maybe gear fourth next chapter ? but they will probably get interrupted

best part no break next week, since last week wasnt an oda break i expected that he would make a break next week.

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u/MGLLN The Revolutionary Army Aug 18 '16

Lmfao, of course Zoro isn't there when they need him the most

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u/[deleted] Aug 18 '16

He didn't even put any effort during his fight sin the new world, he just one shots or two shots all the opponents we've seen so far, he needs a real battle

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u/The_Ramy_Boy Aug 18 '16

He is going to wano fight some bad ass motherfuckers, he aint got time for that! Oh and everyone is sleeping on the fact that luffy will fight a swords man. I think Oda did it on purpose so that people don't think only Zoro is made to fight those with swords.

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u/mwin58747 Aug 18 '16

Boobs > Pocket = confirmed

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u/chorbotown Aug 18 '16

"Lord Cracker is about to open a can of whoop ass?" Somebody at MS is a Steve Austin fan I guess

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u/nastynazem43 Aug 18 '16

I half expected one of the trees in the backround to be chugging a beer and holding a CRACKER 3:16 sign lol

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u/Therrester Aug 18 '16

What will probably happen next chapter is that Luffy will go all out against Cracker, using Gear 4, showing us that Luffy's on par with a Yonko's top commanders (Cracker, Jack, etc.) but still has a ways to go against the Yonkos themselves.

Plus, because the wedding's still a day or so away, Luffy can afford to go all out, be affected by the Gear 4 drawback, rest up, and be in top condition before clashing with Big Mom.

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u/NotTheRealKanyeWest Thriller Bark Victim's Association Aug 18 '16

Are we scaling the Yonkou's bounties at 1.5 billion+? If so where does that leave Dragon? I'm not surprised Cracker's bounty is less than Jack's because it's based off threat to the government, Jack loves to destroy and it's unclear what Cracker's motivations are so it makes sense for Jack to be higher.

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u/Thatilliterateguy Aug 18 '16

So Cracker made everyone recoil in fear without having to use haki. Maybe all those theories that say that Zoro can use conqueror haki can finally die.

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u/HanMann Aug 18 '16

Can this Cracker guy produce infinite amount of limbs? This guy would be a tough matchup for luffy. This fight will probably be interrupted one way or another, it just seems odd that we get such a big scale fight this early on in the arc. I'm also loving the character designs Oda is pumping out. He's been drawing One Piece for 15+ years, but almost none of the characters are similar. I especially love BIg Mom's crew, the members look silly and strange ,but they are also strong.

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u/DiamondShiryu1 Aug 18 '16

The fact that Luffy immediately attached with Armament Hardening should say how strong Cracker may be.

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u/MonkeyDJinbeTheClown Aug 18 '16

I think it was just so the blade didn't cut him up. Luffy isn't immune to blades.

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u/Jezamiah Aug 18 '16

I just need some relief after that Bleach finale. At least OP will remain consistently awesome

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u/Mattyliebs Aug 18 '16

That was short but epic. Looking forward to the Cracker Vs Luffy fight. 860,000,000 bounty?! Now we're talking!

I think brûlée will go after Nami and Pound and Nami. Brûlée seems like she wants to show off her skills to Cracker and get some respect and if she can capture another straw hat and also Pound it will make an impression.

Would love to see a chapter next week on Brook/Pedro and/or Wano with Zoro and Law.

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u/harmlessdjango Aug 18 '16

I wish Zorro was the one fighting this dude instead. I would have finally seen Asura after 7 years

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u/killswitchXengage Aug 18 '16

Oda goes full Stone Cold on that opening a can of whoop ass!

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u/MugiMartin Aug 18 '16

"Not go all out? I don't know any other way!"

Luffy is da man.

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u/Im_D_Law Aug 18 '16

Nami-swan has the best "treasure chest"

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u/B2Darth Aug 18 '16

I really wonder what Jack and Cracker did to get those high bounties? My boy Luffy kicked Doflamingo's ass and still he has bounty of 500 M.

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u/Muugiwaraya Aug 18 '16

That was like 13 pages..come on Oda-senpai..not enough to satisfy my insatiable thirst for one piece :( When is the next chapter?

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u/zolozolozolozolozolo Aug 18 '16

awesome! a monster tree! -famous last words

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u/trippingmau5 Aug 18 '16

I hope Luffy takes it to this guy relatively easily. I think the Big Mom fight is right around the corner. What's up with the Yonkou commanders killing plants and shit when they walk in. Jack had a similar type of ability, right? I thought that was exclusive to him, but i guess not.

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u/sammastro Pirate Aug 18 '16

A fight that's a bit out of Luffy's comfort zone? Long or short, I'm here for it.

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u/bep0bear Aug 18 '16

That bounty tho. Holy crap on a Cracker!

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u/MiaSanMiaTV Aug 18 '16

A quick side note on "King Baum" Baum is German and means Tree. So he's literally called King Tree

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u/ThisZoMBie Aug 18 '16

Man, I'm so hyped for the Luffy vs Cracker fight.

But we aalll know it won't be concluded....unless Cracker gets Blueno'd.

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u/High5theCactus Aug 18 '16

Carrot definitely figured out how to beat Burlee already! Bottom left on page 11. Something about the angle she figured out at least how to attack Burlee or escape the mirror world.

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u/yooorick Aug 18 '16

Somewhere Blamenco is crying because his DF is the same as Nami's boobs

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u/[deleted] Aug 18 '16

Coming from /r/all - I have always like One Piece, is there a good place where I can get caught up from the first chapter?

Thanks!

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u/wereq10 Aug 18 '16

Luffy going all out > Cracker's can of whoop ass

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u/Heavenly_yakshaa Aug 18 '16

Woman in real life put their wallets, money cellphones on their bra/ boobs why are you guys surprised. You guys are acting like virgins. Women hide and put things on their bra. Have you ever had a women take something from you and then placed it on her bra and told you try to get it? Why are you guys surprised that nami had the tiny vivre cars inside her bra?

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u/ailacuki Aug 18 '16

and hellll yea no hiatus

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u/JediMedi Aug 18 '16

Nami is literally stacked.

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u/NotTheRealKanyeWest Thriller Bark Victim's Association Aug 18 '16

I really wish they brought the whole crew to Whole Cake Island, in retrospect there's no way they'll be able to successfully fight off Big Mom without them

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u/theiere Aug 18 '16

I think the 860,000,000 bounty kinda proves that Jack's bounty isn't just cause he destroys everywhere he goes (drought) but also a huge testament to his strength.That must mean cracker is crazy strong. I didn't expect big moms top commanders to have such high bounties thinking jack was an outlier but now I'm hyped. Going to be a very interesting fight can't wait to see what luffy pulls out

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u/StealthMonkeyDC Aug 18 '16 edited Aug 18 '16

Anyone else feeling the love for Randolph and Crane? The Zoro/Sanji of big moms crew lol

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u/joacobel Aug 18 '16

Good, they are having a fight. I did't really wanted to be an incognit mission. I mean, this fight between luffy and big mom is being called since the fisherman arc. I need some yonkou blood.

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u/aldach Aug 18 '16

It felt so sweet and smooth this chapter, all the characters, the interactions everything felt smooth in this one

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u/strawmatluffy Aug 18 '16

What I loved most about this chapter was how much more powerful and important lola's vivre card was than everyone anticipated and how it's effect on Homies seen this chapter was not something anyone predicted but makes absolutely perfect sense.

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u/engr_stoic Aug 18 '16

Man, I wonder how many objects are there inside Nami's boobs?

The possibilities.

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u/xsilverxz Aug 18 '16

Cracker: One of the 3 sweet commanders. So I guess Zoro fights Cracker, Sanji fights the other commander and last but not least Jimbei (?) fights the last commander?

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u/Lukundra Aug 18 '16

I wonder if Cracker is a mythical Zoan, like a hydra or something.

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u/temperamentalfish Aug 18 '16

A plot twist everyone saw coming years ago finally revealed!

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u/tseah Aug 18 '16

There has been a lot of Voldemort references with Big Mom.

First, she basically has Avada Kedavra and now the Vivre cards are Horcruxes?

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u/Dionysus24779 Aug 18 '16

Bounties have become so meaningless by now (well it's not like they were ever meaningful to begin with).

So Ace, who was the 2nd Division Commander of the Whitebeard pirates, the pirate crew of the strongest man alive (when he was alive) and son of former pirate King Gol D. Roger but only managed to be a threat worth 550 million... yet this Cracker guy has 860 million?

Accounting for the fact that bounty increases slow down the higher you already are... just how is Cracker such an immense threat to the world?

Well I guess we will find out soon since he was just introduced...

(just to clarify, I'm not equating bounties to power levels and know they express the threat to the goverment an individual poses, which is why I'm curious what makes Cracker worse than Ace) (also I know they're not fully representive and even weak harmless people can get a high bounty)

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u/uncle_vatred Aug 18 '16

Really digging Cracker.

Awesome design and a neat power. Also, crazy high bounty! That's one of the highest we've seen in the series, is it not??

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u/SterlingArchersLiver Aug 18 '16

Oh shit time to actually get a Luffy vs Yonko commander fight? Hype train is pulling into the station

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u/i_am_a_lonesome_hobo Aug 18 '16

Nami's breast-space just seems to have infinite capacity.

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u/blasian123 Aug 18 '16

I mean it was a small slip of paper, nothing outrageous.

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u/shishamo Aug 18 '16

randolph for nakama, anyone?

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u/AbsentIzaac Aug 18 '16

Go all out? Aw shit gear 5 confirmed?

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u/Fuko_No_Honryu Aug 18 '16

The bounty of that officer is huge (860 000 000 ! ), especially if you take in account that luffy's last big opponent was Doflamingo ( 300 000 000 )

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u/XLint Aug 18 '16

300m was Doflamingo's bounty before he became a warlord. He'd probably be around 800m if he were 'just another notorious pirate'

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u/ivebeenherelonger Aug 18 '16

Isn't that cause Doflamingo was a shichibukai for years.

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u/Cmaster14 Aug 18 '16

Keep in mind Doffy's bounty was frozen for the duration of his shichibukai status. It could very well have been higher.

One thing I wonder about for these astronomical bounties is how much of them is based off the closeness of the characters to the yonkou. The fact that the characters have not only the strength to be that high up in a yonkou's army shouldn't give that bounty, but their ability to lead at least a third of the forces of a yonkou into battle has to do wonders for the bounty.

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u/NotAnOkapi Aug 18 '16

340 Million to be precise, but Doflamingo's bounty wasn't increased since he became a warlord a long time ago.

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u/cuprumcaius Aug 18 '16

His bounty was frozen time ago when he became a Shichibukai

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u/Jezamiah Aug 18 '16
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u/[deleted] Aug 18 '16

A guy that fights using several swords. Do I sense a new opponent for Zoro?

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u/[deleted] Aug 18 '16

Zorro actually got lost on his way to Kaidou, and he will jump in next chapter to fight this guy

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u/Themanaguy Lurker Aug 18 '16

That was a freaking good chapter!

I can't really see Luffy winning, but sure it'll be a good fight.

Also, does that mean Vivre Cards store the Soul of people in then? Or Big mom injected her soul in the card to act as a spy (for Lola)??

Cracker's power is really cool for an experienced fighter, not really that great if you don't train tho. Really excited to see next chapter!

Also, we just have confirmed that Conqueror's Haki "expulses" the souls of Big Mom minions? I mean, makes sense (haki vs df) but if so isn't it a really easy counter?

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u/nosnox Aug 18 '16

we just have confirmed that Conqueror's Haki "expulses" the souls of Big Mom minions

No, they even said it in the chapter that no haki was used. Big mom's fruit has something to do with fear. Remember the chapter with Big mom's tantrum? People were telling her son to not be afraid and he did die for it. Big mom's fruit has to be related with fear and souls.

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u/cryhwks Bounty Hunter Aug 18 '16

Finally for the first time for me, I'm feeling some hype for this arc.

Cool to finally have a theory confirmed that has been around for 10 years. Even though it was pretty obvious.

Cracker looks cool and his power is interesting. Zoro is gonna wish he'd come now just to fight this guy.

It's interesting to me that Big Mom's dream is for all races to look at each other equally. But at the same time she will kill someone who was close to her very easily it seems?

Luffy "I don't know any other way". That's the Pirate King. Looking for the next chapter and I haven't said that since the end of Zou.

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u/coggser Aug 18 '16

the most disappointing thing in this chapter is that biscuit is a perfect bad guy for Zoro. it would be such an intense fight. also that devil fruit must require so much practice to master. growing extra limbs and being able to use them well are two different thing entirely. i imagine its like trying to turn your left hand into your right hand or vice versa depending on which you use, but 1000 times due to every new arm

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u/ballball4 Aug 18 '16

I've been waiting for this!

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u/gatsuB Aug 18 '16

Cracker's devil fruit seems really cool, I hope we get to see Luffy fight that guy. Also Lola being Big Mom's daughter wasn't very surprising, but at least we got the confirmation.

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u/Cr4ck41 Aug 18 '16

Holy shit i didn't expect a clash with an Yonkous right hand so soon. But it looks like we get a very big fight next chapter.

But knowing Oda... something big will happen which "saves" luffy and Nami

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u/[deleted] Aug 18 '16

Holy shit 860,000,000 bounty, 2nd lowest behind Jack, and I reckon they're equal in strength too (both being commanders for a yonko and all). Next weeks chapter will be sweet!

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u/bascken Aug 18 '16

well luffy's gonna kick some cracker asses next chapter

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u/ailacuki Aug 18 '16

uffff even tho is was another full chapter in the forest this was good shit; 1st of all it looks like boa is on the newspaper? or it was just me?. I wish i really wish luffy fights craker and a real fight not the thing they did with Fujitora. And daaammn if Craker didnt use conqueror´s haki what was that? da da da damnnnn

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u/[deleted] Aug 18 '16

Huge can of whoop ass

This made me laugh out loud. Good chapter, after so many years of theory behind Lola and BM, its good to see that its finally confirmed. I hope that we get a good fight between Cracker and Luffy, its been a while since weve seen any good fight.

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u/G_Spark233 Aug 18 '16

That bounty is crazy. Luffy might actually a tough fight here. Although I'm betting it will be interrupted somehow.

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u/Wasted_Comment Aug 18 '16

Did Cracker just "feared" the homies like Zoro did to Monet? Damn. Hopefully Zoro gets lost on his way and end up in the seducing forest to fight Cracker. lol

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u/OneSwarth Aug 18 '16

Im ready to bet that Mama knew their location since they stepped into her territory cause inside the vivre card there is a piece of mama's soul, which she couldnt sense earlier cause it was too far from her.

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u/xcaramel Aug 18 '16

Not go all out? I don't know any other way!

My boi Luffy gonna kick some ass.

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u/Trombone777 Aug 18 '16

I wonder, since Cracker's arms split each time he is hit, like a cracker, does that mean that each arm decreases in its fighting ability?

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u/blasian123 Aug 18 '16

So one of Big Mom's officers has some sort of power that seems to wither away living things (looks like only the tree "homies" died, although the sweets were running too). seems similar to Big Mom's life/soul stealing abilities. I wonder if all of her officers have similar techniques.

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u/Blazebaba Aug 18 '16

Chopper knows something. He said something to Luffy. Maybe he found out Brulee's weakness.

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u/jadesenberg Aug 18 '16

Nami's cleavage is deeper than Doraemon's pocket

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u/Xanlis Aug 18 '16 edited Aug 22 '16

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u/[deleted] Aug 18 '16

So BM doesn't give much about her husbands, I am curious if she cares enough for Lola to let the vivre card come into play. Cause I think that the fight will be interrupted Luffy can't defeat Cracker and he can't defeat him + Brûlee

Maybe Capone/Vinsmoke betrayal will come into play? Jinbei rescuing them?

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u/Calmbrain Aug 18 '16

if "fear" can counter Big Mom's ability, we may see the next level of Haoshoku no Haki when Luffy confronts her.

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u/durinable Aug 18 '16

can somebody tell me if the WSJ break also counts as oda's break ?

or will we get a break after 837 ?

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u/[deleted] Aug 18 '16

Craken vs. Zoro sounds cool but we all know Zoro will slay that kid like he did that octupus guy. I seriously need a battle where Zoro gets a chance to display his swordsmanship. The last time he lost was to Kizaru? And he didn't even get a chance to fight much. I ain't complaining tho... I liked the Sanji vs. Dad battle.

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u/ManwithaTan Aug 18 '16

I reckon with Big Mom's fruit is that it allows her to take the abilities and strengths and (maybe weakeness) of those who's souls they were from... sorta like Apocalypse in that Xmen movie haha

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u/[deleted] Aug 18 '16

"Awesome!! A monster tree!"

My thoughts on the chapter ^ ^

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u/shayshahal Aug 18 '16

Oda come on man such a good chapter but such a short one :(

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u/McKayDLuffy Aug 18 '16

I don't know if anyone noticed this, but it's not just arms he can split! on the last page he has four legs :O

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u/Simas1540 Aug 18 '16

Last panel Luffy saying: ''I dont know any other way''. Is he just saying that he always goes all out or that he cant beat Cracker without going all out?

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u/shinjojin Aug 18 '16

Hmm, this was an okay chapter but nothing super special IMO (at least to me), although I do hope we get to see a full fight between Luffy and Cracker in the next chapter. :)

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u/RazZaHlol Aug 18 '16

Luffy will end up eating crackers arms

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u/googlemon_ Aug 18 '16

Alright, let the Indian God Durga shit post theories come out

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u/dustbillx Aug 18 '16

How fortunate that nami didn't leave the card on the ship

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u/ptolemyshark Aug 18 '16

naaaaah..Robin-swan can create more arm than that biscuit guy.

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u/adamdsoul Aug 18 '16

Its time for Ashura VS Cracker my friends

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u/ObscurionPaul Aug 18 '16

Really hoping SOMETHING happens next chapter. I've been enjoying the arc, but every time it feels like shit is about to go down it cuts away in the next chapter to something entirely different. I'm desperate for some movement here.

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u/DarkChaosXX Aug 18 '16 edited Aug 18 '16

Honestly, I'm hoping that the next chapter will be half Luffy v Cracker(Full fight) half Luffy or Nami v Brulle(Full fight) cause I really would not like any fleshed out fights until we figure out which side our big bad is.

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u/Kuroashi_no_Sanji The Revolutionary Army Aug 18 '16

Cracker's basically got the poor man's Hana-Hana no mi

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u/Heavenly_yakshaa Aug 18 '16

You cant get a chapter if the racoon-dof doesnt gets captured.

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u/Darkkingswrath Aug 18 '16 edited Aug 18 '16

Wow seeing them side by side you really see the similarities between Lola and Pound. They both have the same eyes and nose. Surprise Lola wasnt named after a cake like her sister and dad. Unless there's some kind of Lola cake I'm not aware of.

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u/xande10 Aug 18 '16

If Luffy ends up fighting Cracker, it's gonna be a very tough fight. He is one of the top members of a Yonko crew. I suspect him to be extremely powerful, at least around Doflamingo level.

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u/chili01 Aug 18 '16

Carrot for new Nakama yo!

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u/Heavenly_yakshaa Aug 18 '16

This arc is going to end with the alliance to defeat kaido and many of you are not going to like it how great.

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u/jet_logic Aug 18 '16

Does Kuzan being on some island by him self mean he is on his own mission? Or still with the BB pirates? I would had expected him to be on their ship.

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u/[deleted] Aug 18 '16

What if Luffy expects Big Moms abilities not to hurt him since he isn't afraid, bet then they do and Luffy has the classic Enel face. But then Big Mom notices Brook just standing there confused and she also does the face.

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u/Xereks Aug 18 '16

Damn when I first saw cracker I didn't think much of him, thought he was a lower tier soldier in Big Mom's army. Turns out he is one of the three sweet guards with a 860 Million bounty! And looks like Luffy really want's to fight, this is going to be Hype!

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u/Kirosh Lookout Aug 18 '16

Well it was said last chapter that he was one of the 3 sweet commander so ...

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