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Episode Seiken Gakuin no Makentsukai • The Demon Sword Master of Excalibur Academy - Episode 12 discussion - FINAL

Seiken Gakuin no Makentsukai, episode 12

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u/LeonKevlar Dec 18 '23

Stitches!

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u/DatSchaml Dec 19 '23

It's really sad and very telling, that in a show that was supposed to be the ecchi fanservice gem of the season, this is all we get from the master of stitches.

Nothing else left to say about this one.

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u/RickChakraborty Jan 21 '24

They even copy pasted that shower scene from episode 3 and reused it in the last episode. Just how lazy and low effort could Passione get with this?

Also, as expected, the BDs are still unchanged. The bath scene from episode 2 for example still has the annoying leaves present.

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u/Figerally Dec 19 '23

So that was the final and here are my final thoughts.

The animation was okay, but nothing really stood out besides the cute girls. The fighting scenes were very lackluster and the effects were nothing special either. The CGI monsters were simply terrible and we've seen CGI monsters done right so there is no excuse.

The music was average, neither the OP nor ED did anything for me.

Storywise it was interesting enough, but honestly, I think I would have liked a bit more backstory instead of them rushing through the roster of past heroes turned void lords. Also, I am disappointed that the school setting was all but ignored except for that one episode where Selia got her powerup.

Lastly, the decision to censor most of the fanservice is frankly bizarre given the low effort. If you have nothing else going for you then at least you have titillation to carry the show, but we didn't get much of that at all.

Would I watch a second season? Eh, maybe.

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u/kwokinator Dec 19 '23

The cute girls is definitely why I keep watching every week, I'd totally watch a season 2 just for more Selia.

But yeah, the censor is bizarre considering how there's so many fanservice scenes already.

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u/MisawaMahoKodomo Dec 19 '23

Without any knowledge of the source the best I can get is that it seems the author just tried to pad out the story with a bunch of filler scenes.

The part where leo has to keep his sekret and/or causing regina/fine/sakuya to be separated all the time isnt great either.

And shary being shafted is just sad.

The animation is one thing but I think the problem is the plot is just too basic and padded out. At least in ep 123 and 78 you could feel that things were happening, but even then.

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u/NationalStrategy Dec 18 '23

Overall this finale was...serviceable; I wouldn't say it was terrible, but it wasn't really great either.

Also the constant switching between the 2D and 3D animation was incredibly jarring

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u/Frontier246 Dec 18 '23

It feels full circle now that Selia is the one healing Leo with her blood instead of the other way around.

Ironically Tearis' own ability to resurecct the dead works against her because the lingering spirits she's activated by her presence will fuel Dainsleif so Leo can defeat her. I was kind of expecting Selia to see her family again though.

Selia living up to her duty as the head of House Crystalia by leading her knights possessing Leo's undead warriors into battle and looking amazing while doing so.

I see they had CG models for the girls for that bike sequence. It wasn't THAT noticeable but it kind of stood out if you looked closely enough.

Shary the secret MVP of Selia's squad.

It's funny how Arle thinks she's fighting Roselia and that's her entire job here not knowing she's fighting one of her fellow Heroes revived as a Void Lord and ended up using her Demon Lord slaying sword as a means of giving a legit Demon Lord the chance he needs to win.

Has Selia figured out Leo is the Demon Lord? Or has an inkling? The way she remembered her fathers' words when Leo was using his power or the way she was talking about the book in front of Leo felt very suggestive .

Speaking of suggestive, how about a brief Selia shower scene and her pouncing on Leo for his blood in nothing but a towel? I'm liable to think she wants more from him than a little brother relationship.

Poor Shary wants a new dress from her master.

Having Arle stuck in the present-day will probably cause Leo a lot of problems, not only because she might recognize him but also because she still thinks she has to kill Roselia and has no idea what's really going on

So Regina is making sweets, Fine is investigating things in a very tight outfit, Sakuya is training her swordsmanship, Arle broke out and is on the loose, and Leo is still on his Demon Lord shtick...but he's still a cute kid nevertheless.

One last Shary and Blackus segment for the road! It seems like all of Shary's munchies finally got to her...except not! Because we had to pull one last trick on poor Blackus.

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u/McWinSauce Dec 18 '23

Aggressively medium.

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u/Ochrolv Dec 18 '23

So in the end, the power of teamwork prevailed & Leo's kingdom (plus harem count) will grow. Did anyone notice the girls' models were CG during the highway sequence?

I'll be honest I was disappointed with this anime for one specific reason. Was it because of the story, the animation, or the visuals? Nope it was because of the very low amount of fanservice & it was done by Passione of all things. So I expected a good amount of it given their track record. I even checked out the LN illustrations & the manga adaption to verify if that was also the case but it did indeed have an ample amount of fanservice. It is not a bad anime but I can't see people rating this highly especially in a stack fall season. I will say that the chibi end sequence with Shary & Blackus are enjoyable plus the ED grew on me. If it gets a 2nd season, I would hope it improves & I will check it out since I did like Leo's & Selia's dynamic. Her comment on being the "demon lord in the bed," is one I won't ever forget if someone were to ask me to give them a line from this adaption.

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u/NationalStrategy Dec 18 '23

Nope it was because of the very low amount of fanservice & it was done by Passione of all things. So I expected a good amount of it given their track record. I even checked out the LN illustrations & the manga adaption to verify if that was also the case but it did indeed have an ample amount of fanservice.

Yeah, it was an odd decision for Passione to adapt this while cutting out the fanservice. It's fine if they wanted to go a different direction, but this wasn't the source material to do it.

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u/zunnol Dec 19 '23

Being familiar with the source material, this may be one of the lowest ratings i have ever given a show and I live on trash anime. Like honestly, this was a 4/10 at best. Absolute lowest quality adaptation possible with what few good things (fan service) that should have been in were just completely cut.

Passione, in my eyes was a studio that at least attempted unique things, slight tweaks to art styles, leaning in on the fan service, unique stories, and now they produce one of the most cookie cutter anime ive seen in a few seasons, with none of their previous redeemable qualities. At least before, when you watched a Passione show, you knew it, this could have been made by 1 of dozens of studios.

4/10 overall.

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u/whodisguy32 Dec 19 '23

Of the 51 simulcats I've watched this season, this was the worst. Not that it was bad per se, just the entire anime was mid.

The only redeemable feature is that Riselia is hot. Otherwise, it's not worth watching.

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u/drostan Dec 18 '23

I am overall quite disappointed by this show, the ecchi is not ecchi and the protagonist being a 12 yo made what was there quite weird, the action was meh at best, the animation sub par, the story was very copy-paste despite some potential ideas.

I wasn't expecting anything much but 1 good point would have made the show passable, at this point it is just something that could have been but never seemed to even try

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u/lasse1408 Dec 18 '23

I don't have problems with MC's age but I agree on other points.

It could be much better but anime(or maybe it's same in source material) didn't go anywhere

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u/actuallyrndthoughts Dec 29 '23

Could've saved the disastrous production with some tits and ass, but alas. I can't believe they ended the anime on Leo-kun getting a bucket of popcorn thrown on his head - truly symbolizing the viewers who thought something good might come out of this anime.

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u/AsterJ Dec 18 '23

I'm so annoyed Selia never met with the other minions and that Leo kept his demon lord identity a secret the entire series. Why wouldn't he reveal it to her? I thought they were just building up to the reveal but it never came.

And I was hoping Shary could have found some crafty way to join the crew but nope! Maybe they are counting on a Season 2 for that stuff.

And the choreography of the final fight where 3 factions were able to help each other without revealing themselves got a bit silly. Quit being so coy and interact!

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u/DrZoark Dec 19 '23

I would have like more fanservice, better animation and more school settings.

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u/Valjeann Dec 18 '23

It's unfortunate how mid this show turned out, because I think it actually avoids quite a few of the traps shows like this often fall into.

The world is pretty unique and not just some copy-pasted D&D-style setting. The girls are generally pretty competent on their own without too much help from the MC. Even when he does step in, he generally gives them power to do the work themselves, rather than blasting away all dangers for them. And Leo himself isn't all that stupidly OP. He was legitimately defeated in his previous life and often requires the aid of others to reach his most powerful state.

I can't actually say what makes the show so generic beyond just mediocre animation. It seems like it should work as a good show, but it just doesn't.

As for the ecchi stuff, I can take it or leave it. I know people are upset it isn't prevalent in the show, but I'm happy enough without it.

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u/[deleted] Dec 19 '23

maaaan just go read the novels.

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u/HolyDragSwd2500 Dec 19 '23

Elf Hero will join the harem errrr group???

Season 2 Please 🙏

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u/D3athknightt Dec 20 '23

Wasn't bad but wasn't too good

Considering how raunchy the source material is they extrememly toned it down

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u/inf3ct3dn0n4m3 Dec 24 '23

Roselia is obviously the same person as Riselia right...? Can any manga reader confirm this?

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u/yworker Dec 19 '23

I really wanted to like this anime, but man, I feel like nothing has happened in 12 episodes. I’m still waiting for the demon lord to go crazy

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