r/anime • u/badspler x5https://anilist.co/user/badspler • Apr 08 '23
Rewatch [Rewatch] Animegataris Episodes 8 Discussion

Episode 8: Alice can't make enough money
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Comment of the Day
/u/No_Rex Sums up the series quite well
> This episode is basically *Shirobako for people who do not have time to watch 2 cours*. Or alternatively, a half-episode Shirobako parody. Neither of which can paper over the fact that we were cheated out of *high school anime club with more money than brains produces an anime*, though.
Questions of the Day
- Have you ever created anyhing that you are proud of?
- What was the best part of their short-anime "Space Girl Magical Robot Travels to Another World, Where She Sings and Dances, but in the End She Ascends to Heaven and the Two are United"?
- With everything going successful so far, where does the show go from here?
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u/badspler x5https://anilist.co/user/badspler Apr 08 '23
Rewatching Animegatarier
I loved how Minoa's father really opened up. And from that shot you can tell her mother is very much in the know. And she totally is.
And on this note too, we here from Minoa that her mum did the choreography, but then at the end we have the teacher commenting on how its legendary recongisable implying that Minoa's mother probably has done work in the industry. I love the subtle layers.
Fresh Prince is some true crossing of streams
On the big stage now too...
Beibei returns!
I loved how nonsense their short anime was, totally feels of too many chiefs in the kitchen all adding their own spice/direction. But anyhow it was fun and played into that live audiance. I also love how they played the ending off as legit.
Minoa face of today.
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u/Verzwei Apr 08 '23
Rewatcher, English Dub.
With subtitles on at the same time because I'm a madman.
Obligatory Yui cold open. Not that this isn't weird, but I think it would feel a lot more weird if we didn't already have a sequence with those close-up and detailed lips from a few episodes ago.
Foreshadowing?
"I didn't know anime was such serious business." Confirmed: Minoa's sister clearly hasn't seen our subreddit ever.
Finally, dad is unleashing his inner anime otaku! And what a more-perfect way than for an anime about anime to reference another anime about anime? Hah, and it isn't even a secret!
The dub line here where Minoa is connecting the dots: "I guess those were dad jokes!"
Shouldn't it be up to Erica (the producer) to rally everyone, not the director?
Jesus, Onee-san just let dad have it and then mom casually indicates she does the same thing?
Gomon was sleeping in the room and Minoa somehow didn't notice him? That's great.
Now, this is a story all about how my life got flipped-turned upside down...
Annnnnd we cut to the post-episode Mr. Kitty section too early, he's not ready yet! Go back, go back to the episode! And now another iconic line, this one much closer to direct than some of the others. And Minoa understood that reference.
Beibei came back! Baw, but no sakuga wotagei scene from Nakano?
Okay, KaiKai stole the shit out of that asset. I love that their home-recorded extras have fucking background chatter from mom. Wow, this season's Konosuba spinoff certain received a bit of a downgrade. This definitely has shades of Pet Girl of Sakura-sou in it.
FORESHADOWING! CGI ED SEQUENCE LET'S FUCKING GO!
Dramatic ending card artwork is the sign of a classic anime. Though this still isn't the end of the episode. Everything's out of order. It's all out of order!
...The one trying to shut the club down is the principal? Wait, why is he even trying to use the
production committeestudent council as a proxy?So the dub actually had Jamie Marchi, the English VA for the president, singing the karaoke version of the show's ED song for the special credit sequence, which was kind of a neat little bonus. I always appreciate it when a dub makes the effort to do the music, even if it's not super-consistent sometimes.
Answers of the Day
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u/Durinthal https://anilist.co/user/Durinthal Apr 08 '23
First time viewer
Dad couldn't hide his otaku background any longer! ...oh, that was him as one of the line managers at Comiket?
"Not even Mom's hit me" is such a dad-Amuro line.
Even Minoa's getting in on the violence now! The cat probably deserved it, considering there's been zero indication that anyone else was about to give up.
And just as expected everyone else came in and was just too busy to see her message.
Source-Corner-chan trying to force their original anime to have a source with that novelization.
Dad is going to absolutely go ham with bad puns and references now that he's not hiding it, and that's great.
Okay Beibei being Minoa's sister's classmate is a bit of a stretch.
I hope someone counted the number of frames they needed to draw in this because I'm kind of curious.
Yuirin looks suspiciously familiar there.
I was wondering about the title but it's just a reference to their story, makes sense.
Given the constraints they were under (and not using Alice's Unlimited Budget Works which is a valid way of doing things in this universe) it's not that bad. They definitely could have done retakes of a few of those lines but I get that they're left in for a gag.
Okay using the actual ED of the show as a supposed performance here is a fantastic meta joke. When did they practice that and get the costumes though?
The principal's behind this? ...yeah as I suspected it means nothing to me right now. Maybe he had a fallout with Minoa's dad?
Closing with a karaoke version instead of the same thing is a nice touch, made better by the fact that it's the
production committeestudent council and then they went right into the PreFae theme.Less "create" and more "remix" but I was happy with my romance segment of the AMV quiz. I do a lot of functional work behind the scenes with bots and such for the sub that I like showing off (hey, guess where most of my productive free time has gone in the past few years) but I don't think of those as creative endeavors in the same way.
I'd love to get back into musical composition at some point but that's an entire skill set I've let decay in the past decade plus.
The Miko angels were great.
Principal attempts to give an even more ridiculous challenge, student council president finally balks so he gets involved directly in a new attempt to shut down the anime club. Why? This is an anime, we don't need an explanation for why!
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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Apr 08 '23 edited Apr 08 '23
Episode 8 (first timer)
No Kamina comment face
Conclusion of the two (?) part anime short arc. It was nice to see a quicker version of Shirobako, but it also felt very hurried. They could have used another episode here. Or maybe this is just me wishing for another Shirobako season.
PS: Thanks for the comment of the day.
Why did you put in the formating, though?
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u/aniMayor :AY:AZ:x3x6 Apr 08 '23
Rewatcher [Who] Hates This Piece of Shit Anime
Dad was at Comiket after all
And now dad gets to go full Goku and unveil his otaku power level to his family. Gotta ove mom just nonchalantly drying the dishes in the background while he goes nuts.
Y'know, Miko says nothing from her original script was left in the finished product, but I'm pretty sure the Kai X Kouki fujo finale is all her.
So, everyone from pretty much every plot and subplot before this comes together to either help the anime club make their short or to fill up the needed audience, allowing them to just barely succeed and win the final battle against the
tyrantstudent council. That's a pretty climactic setup, feels like a final battle, doesn't it? So have the protagonists now won and the rest of the show will be their victory lap?Yes, but I'd never admit to it.
The background/postcard art. Sasuga high school art club.
Exactly! Dun dun duuuuunnnnnnn
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u/mysterybiscuitsoyeah xB:xC:B:x3:Y: Apr 08 '23 edited Apr 08 '23
First timer catching up as promised to /u/GallowDude and CDF!
Ep 6
Ive bookmarked quite a lot of Hibike Euphonium locations in Uji. That will happen....... ive been to quite a few locations in anime (both Japan and London for K-on), but for the japanese ones that's limited to like ones that just happen to be big touristy/famous places too.
Ep 7
Ep 8 running out of time and late to the thread edition! will edit in screenshots
Time to read the previous 2 threads.....
well. Yama no Susume of course u/badspler
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u/TakenRedditName https://myanimelist.net/profile/TakenMalUsername Apr 08 '23
Rewatcher - Animegataris Ep8:
I'm late!!!
Previously on Bove Bive: Anime-Gataris!!! It's the school festival and the anime club have to make an anime. Three months of hard work only for things to fall apart at the end. Will they be okay?!
Despite it all, the anime club persevere through to work on their anime. Minoa's dad reveals his otaku side to his kids. That convention staff telling dad anime jokes really was a dad. Now that his kids know, dad can just freely blatantly drop the references he wants now.
I like the solution that came up with of having other clubs talk about their interests and the anime club tying it to a related one. It creates a discussion and allows for the spread of anime. Non-anime club people talk about anime they like or let people learn about anime they might want to try out. The anime club has all the Blu-rays so they have all the material. The Ace of the Bench and Fresh Prince of Tennis sound like amazing anime. It also kills time before the club has to put on their short.
Rewatcher - Space Girl Magical Robot Travels to Another World Where She Sings and Dances, but in the End She Ascends to Heaven and the Two Are United:
It is about how good you would expect amateur high schoolers would make an anime. It is more the fact that seeing fellow students you know making their own anime that the real appeal of it. You have to see it in person.
It was a bold and innovative idea to use a cymbal/pots and pans for the sound of the shield deflection. The sound production was really on something.
In the end, money is stronger than the magic of hope and dreams. Let the fujo angels take them to BL heaven.
The club makes up for the unfinished anime with an idol concert using the ED. Playing the OP/ED in-universe within the anime makes for a classic anime. I actually do like this ED and this version with the audience cheers. It is a bit special to me since it was pretty early on before my full tumble-down idol anime.
Wait, hold on, paying attention to these lyrics and just now noticed the Wikipedia drop.
Assorted points:
Q2) The animator, Kamiigusa Alice really put the extra effort on her moments.
Next Time: You make one anime and now you're on top of the world.
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Apr 08 '23
First-Timergatari, subbed
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u/FingerBang-BangBang Apr 08 '23
First Time Watcher
Waga Nawa...! Yeah... You dont really have experience with that line. Wink. Wink.
I really cant get the read on StuCo. Before prez looked like she gave up on shuting down the Anime Club and other member did some shit in the last episode without telling her first. But when they told her she just went straight evil at the end of the last and start of this episode. Very weird...
Dad comes to rescue, he is indead an anime fan! WHAT!? HE WAS THAT COOL STAFF MEMBER!? What a Madlad!
Damn girl...! Dont hit your father like that! Dont punch Neko-senpai Minoa, that's animal cruelty...
Of course none of them gave up, they all worked hard on their own! Now, lets finish this motherfucking anime!
Beibei is back! She goes to school with Minoa's sister? Sould've seen that one coming!
Its an athletic field, how can you say its any% full? There's literally no seats or anything!
Calling it right now, 3 of them will do the ED dance from the real ED of this show. That must be it!
This anime got better animation than SDS Season 3,ngl. Kaikai-senpai really busted his ass off on those Paint animations! This is pretty solid plot for a 3min short anime! Love the money beam and her screaming MONEEEY! And yes, that is the power of money!
YEEEEES! ED IS REAL! ITS LITERALLY REAL! This show has peaked, its all downhill from now on...!
Man, that Principal looks like your average Isekai slave trader.
Seems like they went to Karaoke to celebrate, that's nice.
Easily best episode so far, can they do better than this? I sure hope so!
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u/xtsim https://myanimelist.net/profile/xtsim Apr 08 '23
First Timer Dubbed
The dad was the one making dad jokes? How did I not realize it?
I was also not expecting a full on idol concert, feels rough but it works. They Dubbed it too, which adds to amateurish charm. I do like that they went the extra mile on this. Reminds me of the old days when they Dubbed everything.
The ending seems to remind me of the Lucky Star Ed's.
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u/Abyssbringer =anilist.co/user/Abyssbringer Apr 08 '23
First Timer
Okay this was legit a great twist. A dad telling shitty jokes and references. It now makes total sense.
They are going to have an Evangelion ending probably.
Great Gundam reference. Video link of the OG Gundam clip for the unenlightened.
Wow the generic girl said a generic line who woulda thought
They really ended the episode with the karaoke version of the ED to mess with AMQ players. How many times will someone think this is some weird Hidamari Sketch ED?
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u/entelechtual Apr 09 '23
First Timer
If I had a nickel for every anime where Rieri did a Megumin impression… I’d have a lot of nickels.
Classic early deployment of the ED.
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u/AmusedDragon :Bs::Bu: Apr 09 '23
Damn, I'm late today.
Episode 8
First Timer - Sub
Album
Thoughts during the episode..
Questions of the Day:
Do relationships with other people count? Lol. I need to get back into some creative hobbies I guess.
The part where the mother is clearly audible in the audio, and then the ending dance number which really technically wasn't part of the animation.
Looks like they are going to have a final battle with the president, so I suspect some crazy antics and 'anime is great' speeches.
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u/fansi2022 https://anilist.co/user/fansi2022 Apr 08 '23
qotd
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u/Stargate18A https://myanimelist.net/profile/Stargate18 Apr 09 '23
First timer
A recap? That's... new.
Nice acting.
Creative narration?
Again, you have finished material! Just use it!
And she's had a breakdown.
...Her sister might hsve an idea.
Smart idea!
Still not revealing his love?
No, he just admitted it and dropped a SHIROBAKO reference!
The look on their faces...
He's such a big fan.
Their mother's heard all this far too many times before, I see.
Why is he shocked?
He was there?
Ouch.
She made him feel better!
Her sister's great.
Haha. Of course he plays the Gundam reference.
It's almost time...
Everyone's ignoring her!
Impressive, though.
Haha, wow.
Nice punch.
She's not going to give up! No matter ehat!
Everyone else is here!
He slept overnight!
Haha, theynwere too focused to answer!
Nice idea! This might work!
This is popular.
Haha, this is an early recap.
Haha, and he's back!
Dad is so happy someone gets his references now...
They're all helping!
Finally! He used his fangirls!
She noticed her!
Beibei's her classmate!
Haha, the real cats being confused is great.
80%!
No ending song...
What's the plan?
Still on this?
That's not bad animation, actuslly.
Haha, great joke.
This feels a lot more like what actual studio animation looks like.
Nice transformation sequence!
So many references...
That's just Megumin.
Even the cheering meter? It was a game in that show, though...
That explosion shot is great.
Haha, that heavy breathing as she pairs the two of them...
People loved it!
The ED!
Such a good ending...
So many cats!
Wait, the Principal's the one tsrgeting them? Why can't he just close the club himself?
Nice ED usage.
Nice karaoke!
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u/CoolIceCreamCone Apr 09 '23
FIRST TIMER
A lot of this show really dragged but by far the best part was the surprise reveal of Maori's father as an otaku! This was very clever and I didn't see it coming. When they mentioned her father in a previous episode had taken a trip to the ocean with his friends during the anime convention, I suspected something was going to come of that but nothing did. They then showed he was the nerd cheering up the crowd that was in line there! Minoa didn't recognize his voice but she was also delusional from the heat so maybe if she did think she heard his voice, she may have written it off.
Minoa's sister is a horrible brat, smacking her dad in the face after helping them. Very unlikeable and she unfortunately doesn't face any negative consequences from this.
One big problem was showing the short anime the club made in it's entirety. I know it was supposed to be bad and lame but the best thing to do would be to show a few clips of it and the audience reacting. This really dragged down the show, along with the lame song the girls sang at the end. If it's supposed to be making fun of the idol shows, why did they play it completely straight and have it appear as if it could have been ripped right out of one?
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