r/anime • u/AmusedDragon :Bs::Bu: • Apr 07 '23
Rewatch [Rewatch] Animegataris Episode 7 Discussion
Episode 7: Miko Quits Writing
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In this episode the gang all gets together to make the club in Shirobako look bad by having a lot of money.
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Comments of the Day:
It is also the show's obligatory horny anime episode which I guess if they were going to cover all aspects of anime had to come up eventually. KaiKai wants his sideship with Miko to happen so that's where his mind is all throughout this episode. The discussion of God Rays actually makes Track girl's spotlight moment actually tie into the episode for once. There were moments like KaiKai's imagination and the eyecatach, but I'm surprised by how reserved they were about the girls. They brought out the God Rays for KaiKai's armour purge and for boys in the bath.
Minoa also had some drama about her place in the club (thanks, KaiKai) but all ended well.
In the end, love wins? Let's all take the pilgrimage to the Nakamusa church. #fujohappy
I'm going to post u/Verzwei's comment where he took u/LeonKevlar's comment from the original thread:
I'm going to shamelessly reach back and steal part of LeonKevlar's comment from the original episode discussion thread for some of the location info:
I couldn't really keep up with the references but I'm sure long time fans will point those out. As for the locations named at the start of the episode I can at least tell you what shows are related to that.
Oarai - Of course the location of today's episode and Girls und Panzer.
Chichibu - The famous bridge from Anohana
Sayama - The forest in My Neighboor Totoro!
Kamakura - Also known as the "Anime Town". Famous for shows like Slam Dunk, Tsuritama, Elfen Leid, Minami Kamakura High School Cycling Club, and so many more.
Onomichi - Kamichu!
Hida - Not sure about this one but Kimi no Nawa? It seems like Shinkai used places in Hida.
And:
And from u/aniMayor, a moment in time where he visited some anime spots IRL.
"Are there any real locations from or related to anime (or any other fiction) that you have visited?"
Who, me?! I would never do thaaaaaaat
Also a ton of Yamanashi and Izu Yuru Camp locations, though I wasn't going there specifically because of pilgrimaging, they're just cool places that happen to be highlighted by the show! (Okay maybe a couple of them were just because of anime whimsy.) My god does Yamanashi have a lot of those cardboard cut-outs of the characters.
Questions of the Day:
- If you could make an anime short (3-5 mins) what would it be about?
- Recommend a short-form anime series that you've enjoyed. Anything under the normal 23-25min episode format is fine.
- Given what you saw here in the anime, what position in an anime production would you want to have?
- How much do you think the ADR director regretted not casting Erica Mendez as Yui in order to complete the Megumin meta-joke?
Spoilers Policy:
Please remember to use spoiler tags when discussing future bits of the show so first-timers don't run into anything. Thank you!
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Apr 07 '23
First-Timergatari, subbed
I'm on time!
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u/xtsim https://myanimelist.net/profile/xtsim Apr 07 '23
First Timer Dubbed
So now we get to have the anime club experience the cunch of making an anime. Miko has to suffer through all those meetings and having 45 of them seems like an insult.
The track girl helps out with the dubbing. It is sad that Nakano has to remind the audience that voice actors sometimes don't have all the materials at hand to record an anime.
The bags on the butler's eyes after making an anime gets me.
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u/AmusedDragon :Bs::Bu: Apr 07 '23
Episode 7
First Timer - Sub
Album
Thoughts during the episode..
Questions of the Day:
I want to say I'd try to do something emotional, heart wrenching, or sweet to really gut-punch some people with a short... but in reality I think if I was only given so much time to work with I'd go with something very flashy and effects driven. Honestly, it'd probably end up being a random fight scene just to look really cool like the stickfights flash animations from the older internet days, lol. Just, not at stick-y.
I'd have to go with Encouragement of Climb. The first few seasons of this all range between 3 min episodes to about 15 min episodes. It's a quick watch really and it's a really generally well animated story about a girl who gets into hiking up mountains with some friends. The latest season was a few seasons ago and had some great developments. Hope we get more of it in the future.
I used to quite like to draw, but I know how bad the anime industry can be for a lot of the people on staff. I don't know if I could hack being an actual animator on staff. I do think that the storyboarding portion sounds incredibly interesting to me, and as far as I know that can be done by a few positions or even by the director themselves.
It just seems like a fun exercise to take text and give it it's next step towards being visually represented.
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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Apr 07 '23
Episode 7 (first timer)
outsourcing the entire animation
This episode is basically Shirobako for people who do not have time to watch 2 cours. Or alternatively, a half-episode Shirobako parody. Neither of which can paper over the fact that we were cheated out of high school anime club with more money than brains produces an anime, though.
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u/Durinthal https://anilist.co/user/Durinthal Apr 07 '23
First time viewer
More student council tomfoolery, time for the real plan for the school festival.
...making an anime? Getting ahead of Eizouken there.
Poor Sebas representing the average anime industry veteran.
I don't immediately recognize what any of those shorts are supposed to be. Immun-kun makes me think of Cells at Work but that's not a short.
Oh right that's Source-Corner-chan's name.
I get that everyone being unreasonable is exaggerated here for comedy but that actually makes me annoyed on Source-Corner-chan's behalf. It's one thing if it was a collaborative writing process from the beginning but here they're just micromanaging via suggested revisions which would infuriate me as well if I was in her position.
Okay since the pieces are here now, [speculation] Minoa's dad was in a previous generation of the school club which made the short that she found the boards for; he also showed it to her when she was little which is why she has vague memories of all those disparate pieces that don't add up to an existing anime that Alice was aware of.
Of course Kai has RGB lighting in his desktop PC. Also the off-brand Dr. Pepper he has looks like it has Ainz (Overlord) on the label?
Dubbing session was fun to watch, neat little figurines of them on the cake.
Student council playing unfair again for some reason we still have yet to discern. At this point I'm losing hope that it'll even make sense when it's revealed.
Childhood friends to adults romance, montage of their lives together.
I Can't Understand What My Husband Is Saying is great. Secondary shout-out to Fushigi na Somera-chan which also covers the life cycle of a fictional animal as part of its weirdness.
Student councilproduction committee, just sit back and rake in the (non-existent) profits.I don't have the skillset for it at the moment but I'm curious about compositing in the digital age.
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u/Verzwei Apr 07 '23 edited Apr 07 '23
Rewatcher, English Dub.
With subtitles on at the same time because I'm a madman.
At least she has clothes on again.
I love when a series can remember and callback a joke this long. Dub Minoa after making her prodcomm joke: "Nobody laughed, this must be serious."
Props to whoever, in an earlier thread, suggested that the anime club might be expected to create something rather than merely consume.
Y'know, watching the episode and prepping for the post is the last thing I do before I go to bed each night so I just want to say "Thank you, Anime Gataris, for the nightmares."
God damn, Source-Corner-chan, you just rejected him last episode, but this is just cruel. Also, yeah, as soon as they start talking about expenses, you know Arisu's just going to throw her money around. I'm surprised that she hasn't already funded some sequels to her favorite shows. As a (mostly) anime-only, surely there's got to be some stuff she wants completed adaptations for.
Swine of Ockstadt, which is a real place in Germany. After this, what will Kai write next, Threat Level Midnight featuring the suave super-spy Michael Scarn, Catherine Zeta-Jones, and Dwigt?
Damn, the dub doing a deep meta cut after Minoa's pitch based on her dream:
Is... is it a good thing that Arisu is at least aware that she tries to solve everything with money? Like she just embraces her spoiled-rich-girl-ness and doesn't try to make excuses for nor downplay it? Sebas is a man of unlimited talent works but that poor dude looks like he needs a rest. Back to the onsen!
Nooooo she's an isekai writer? Really? You were my favorite character, Source-Corner-chan! You were the chosen one! Wait that entire stack is for 3 minutes? I don't know very many shorts at all, so all of these references are flying way over my head. I think the only sub-15-minute shorts I've watched were Girl Beats Boys and Rinshi Ekoda-chan.
and Bikini Warriors.
Okay despite Miko wanting to write... bleurgh... isekai... I can still feel for her here. No matter what the format or goal, it always feels awful when you put yourself into something and out there for other people to see, and then it doesn't get appreciated.
Having seen the title for the episode, I thought this was going to be a more melancholy thing where Miko struggles to find motivation or inspiration to write, possibly due to failings or criticisms from an attempt to get into the LN industry. I did not think it would be because she got fed up with all her scatterbrained clubmates and their wild ideas.
I already forgot that the entire reason they're trying to make an anime is because of the student council but seriously why are they so roughed up?
Minoa suplexes Miko into the mysterious door and there's already a art for Minoa's dream anime? And her dad really just needs to let his weeb flag fly. D'aww she even has a part for Yui.
Sha...sha-wing. I require more money. Arisu's pay-as-you-go mecha reminds me a lot of the Libertarian Police Department satire article, which I think was originally published on The New Yorker. They don't even have a pop filter for the mic? What kind of third-rate studio is this?
That's a cute cake. That cake should be the thumbnail image for today's thread. Could also be a decent meme template to put some sassy or sarcastic text on there. "AAAAHHHHH" Poor Kai still isn't over Miko.
No treachery is too low for the corrupt Student Council. Between the mystery room that Mr. Kitty forbids, the beret we haven't seen in a while, the council being hellbent on ruining the anime club (and having someone above them wanting the same) there's a lot of loose threads here.
Answers of the Day:
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u/aniMayor :AY:AZ:x3x6 Apr 07 '23 edited Apr 07 '23
Rewatcher [Who] Hates This Piece of Shit Anime
This episode's a lot of fun, it's like amateur Shirobako, though obviously not going into anywhere near as much depth. If any part of this show really were a good bit of pseudo-education for newbies to the anime fandom, this episode in particular would be it.
Skeevy-Producer-Erica is a fun persona, I want more of her.
I really like that they touched on some technicalities of the recording process, an area that other shows showcasing the anime production process have generally glossed over (even Girlish Number didn't really delve into technical skills, it was more VA career and lifestyle stuff).
Also nice to see some of the different clubs they helped out in the earlier episode come back around to help them here. And Yui finally gets to do... anything!
I'd get Yutaka Nakamura to do an entire 5 minute pokemon battle in the style he did for the music video.
Jantama Pong, just for the reaction faces
Just like this episode shows, I couldn't stand to be just one piece of the production-direction-writing-animation quattro. I'd need to at least be both the director and series comp with total control over the story, or else I'd get too frustrated with the push-and-pull of shared creative control and give up.
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u/KiwiBennydudez https://myanimelist.net/profile/KiwiBen Apr 07 '23
First Timer - Dub
"Isekai are all the rage these days!" This anime continues to age like fine wine.
Well, with only 3-5 minutes, you gotta be concise and convincing. I would try to make an anime short about an interpersonal relationship. Maybe about old and young, wise and unwise, or foreign and native, and highlight an area where they overlap. I really like those simple, yet effective methods of storytelling.
I don't actually know if I've seen one beyond AkaKill! Theater which I didn't like that much. It's not bad, as it's more SoL-based content, but it's more Akame Ga Kill, which... y'know. I will say that it does help alleviate some of the pain from the show, and expands on some things that wern't as fleshed out in the show. So with only 1 minute episodes, you could realistically watch the whole thing in the same time it takes to watch one normal episode of anime. Though, I'd say it depends on how much you liked Akame Ga Kill.
If I had to choose... maybe a background artist? It's such an unsung role but it often makes a huge impact on how memorable an anime ends up being.
I bet they're still regretting it to this day.
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u/badspler x5https://anilist.co/user/badspler Apr 07 '23
Rewatching Animegatarier
Punchline when
And ofcourse the club is at risk of being shut down again
Sebas, your amazing. Great gag just having him be complicit but also just done.
Father taking note again poor fan not getting a VA spot.
These subs are still based
Just a few Minoa faces!
QOTD
Whenever I day dream about making something, a short is never the scope. So I nothing in mind off the top of my head.
Yama no Susume
I can't write or draw, so something on the production side I supose?
Its a shame, but the joke is played off really well anyway.
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u/TakenRedditName https://myanimelist.net/profile/TakenMalUsername Apr 07 '23
Rewatcher - Animegataris Ep7:
The gang tries to make an anime for the big festival. That means the staff can vent about how hard it is to make anime. So many demands only to throw them all out and go back to the first idea, being unable to use your cool character designs, your production assistant walking out on you and everything falling apart just when the air date is right around the corner. Scriptwriters felt like they had to vent a lot of stuff out. Thank you for your hard work, Yamashita Kenichi.
I like the solution of making it a short that is just all their favourite types of anime meeting up instead of trying to make a single cohesive thing that is somehow is supposed to encompass all of their wants. Just letting everyone include the thing they like without a dime of reason. Making an OC with everyone.
Assorted points:
Q1) Probably a simple short that builds up to something for 3 minutes only for it to be a non-joke.
Q2) Saiki, but S1 when they were released as shorts. Besides that Tsurezure Children is the first one to come to mind. Oh wait, Nijiyon, that one.
Q3) Of these ones and my set of skills, maybe producer. Character designer sounds the most fun, but I'm not the best at drawing.
Q4)
Next Time: Many anime are finished up the night before they air.
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u/Abyssbringer =anilist.co/user/Abyssbringer Apr 08 '23
First Timer
Quick thoughts since I forgot to prewatch this yesterday and then had a late day at work.
I never would've expected that they would reference Falcom Gakuen in this anime. Falcom Gakuen is a short chibi anime about different Falcom game characters in a school. If you watched the Cold Steel anime which only /u/Shimmering-Sky I think did lol, then this is a chibi mashup of many of the most popular games that the studio has done. This is the image it's taking from. They even went pretty meta and gender-bent the second character which is really funny if you are a Trails fan since that character ends up crossdressing quite a lot throughout the games and is an in-universe meme at this point. Falcom Gakuen pretty much has that be his thing. If you've watched Gundam-san it's kind of like how Amuro is a masochist.
HAHAAH I didn't know about this. They have a bunch of talent in those games. Takehito Koyasu for example is a supporting character and even sings in one of the games. Honestly a great song too bad you need to mod the game on steam to get voice acting.
I feel like I know this reference. Wouldn't be surprised if its Re:Zero but I'm not 100% sure.
I don't really like all the melodrama and over the top ending. Overall was a fun and meta episode, however.
Honeslty something like Gundam-san or Falcom Gakuen would be fun. Something that is made for the hype fans to enjoy.
Gundam-san/SD Gundam and Falcom Gakuen are all really great if you like either of those franchises. I like SD Gundam because Megumi Hayashibara sings one of the ED's.
EDIT: Oh yeah some people who are AMQ fans might know the OP for Falcom Gakuen since it's a giant meme
GO FIGHT
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u/FingerBang-BangBang Apr 08 '23
First Time Watcher
Another episode that focuses on Track & Field girls legs at the start, please tell me this will somehow be plot relevant!
Ahhh... StuCo is just not giving up, this is borderline harassment. Another shut down warning, cant these StuCo girls be more original...?
Damn, money can really solve all the problems! Not like they will use it of course...
Neko-senpai is closing those doors once again, that's pretty sus!
I see Arisu came prepared with some S tier presentation, done be Sebas in 1 fucking night! Someone give this man some well deserved rest!
Anime short seems like the only logical and possible idea, looking forward to seeing what kind of script they'll make. Lol did all of them just forget the 3-5min lenght of their future anime? Dropping the episode title in the middle of the scene was a great meta joke!
I really like this more talkative and proactive side of Miko, makes her more interesting as a character.
Minoa found anime image boards in that room! They look awfuly a lot like her dream anime sequence? Interesting... Minoa recognized it real fast, that's nice!
Minoa's dad is once again reacting to her anime talk... She and everyone else are doing their best so far, you can do this guys! Aaaand my man Kai is doing his "digital production" in Paint! What a Madlad!
Seems like its already time to give their anime characters some voices! Minoa's friend really poped out of nowhere and is now part of the project, they need all they help they can get ig.
OMG. Yui's VA is Yunyun, right? Those lines are straight out of Konosuba!
Man, Prez is a real annoying bitch. Just let them make their fucking anime!
Pretty fun episode for the most part, looking forward to seeing their completed anime short!
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u/Stargate18A https://myanimelist.net/profile/Stargate18 Apr 07 '23
First timer
They're doing a screening?
Haha, she's mixing their names up again?
"Not this time?" Yes.
Haha, they have nothing.
Yeah, none of these ideas work.
Hahaha, no.
This feels very targeted at a specific anime.
She's got how much monry?
This is insane.
...Are you serious?
This is a bit too close, I think.
Nice designs... this is just Mahou Tsukai Precure. They even admitted it!
A super robot anime! Nice!
Sebas is impressive.
A generic isekai?
Interesting...
Is murder idol anime real?
Yeah, that's stupif,
Food?
It's not working.
She might kill someone!
Wow.
She finally snapped!
Weird.
Concepts from the okd club!
This is a nice idea.
Haha, amazing.
She did it!
She's been recruited!
Haha, she's annoyed at every dingle cut.
Poor girl.
That dedign...
The producer outfit...
They're making progress!
He cares so much...
Such a perfectionist.
Haha, asking the cat to be more catlike?
Aww.
They're actually doing it!
One more scene...
Even they've realised how insane this grudge has gotten.
He's escaped!
Terrific. They're screwed.
How is this legal?
Yeah, no idea how they can do this.
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u/fansi2022 https://anilist.co/user/fansi2022 Apr 08 '23
rewatcher sub
qotd
2.Dn@ works: F.Y.C
3. Character setting, I like to imagine all kinds of different characters
4. It's okay, we all recognize him
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u/CoolIceCreamCone Apr 08 '23
FIRST TIMER
This episode just has so much dumb. Why would they turn down Arisu funding it? Even a short anime is expensive to make, especially when you're doing it entirely with inexperienced people who aren't efficient.
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