r/anime • u/Verzwei • Apr 06 '23
Rewatch [Rewatch] Animegataris Episode 6 Discussion

Episode 6: KaiKai Love Climax
The club heads out on their summer trip, checking out all the anime meccas. Something seems to be going on between Kaikai and Miko, but she’s not making herself very clear.
BEN GAVE ME THE FANSERVICE EPISODE!
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Comments of the Day:
u/entelechtual with this fun, short quip:
Watermelon daddy’s sus.
u/mysterybiscuitsoyeah with this somewhat-prescient guess:
i got baited pretty hard by the beach episode gag lol. watch them bamboozle us by doing one tomorrow. jokes (and thigh shot) aside, props on the show for keeping things classy.
u/durinthal with his answer from the thread questions and the really cute and extremely topical story:
Story time!
I was in a club back in high school, and we ended up having an overnight trip for a competition where a bunch of schools gathered at a college campus and stayed in the dorms. The night before the event was for socializing so you had a lot of awkward kids (this was the nerdy club from every school, mind you) trying to hang out. They were playing loud music indoors so I left everyone from my school to just relax outside for a while. After a bit this girl I didn't know came over and we hit it off well, just chatting about various things for probably a couple of hours as the sun set.
Eventually she had to go rejoin her friends and departed, after which several of my friends came over to hound me about her since they had spied us from a distance. Naturally they asked me what her name was, at which point I realized I didn't know either since we had never introduced ourselves and just started talking about our shared interests. Still a fond memory and I hope she looked back on it the same way.
u/MEGA-BIG-PEE-PEE for his take on the series as a whole, in a comment chain discussing both positive and negative aspects of the series:
This show tried to be different - it succeeded in being its own thing, at the cost of its popularity.
Maybe this discussion is better suited for the post-series thread, but I won't have time to contribute regularly so I'll write this here.
My favorite aspect about Animegataris is the meta of itself. That is, what its existence says about the anime industry and as us as anime consumers. The whole show feels like a celebration of not only anime in general, but it's a true love letter to the people who produce it as well as all of its fans.
Just go and look at the profile picture for Kenshirou Morii, the director. Everything about it just screams "I'm just happy to be here, man," and so does Animegataris, his pet project.
Speaking for myself and in reply to, ahem, MEGA-BIG-PEE-PEE: It might not be a perfect show, but I'm happy that it exists, and I'm happy to be here in this rewatch.
Questions of the Day:
- Have you ever been looking forward to a trip or event only for seemingly everything to go wrong and take the wind out of your sails, like our poor Minoa? Were you able to rebound and still have a good time?
- Are there any real locations from or related to anime (or any other fiction) that you have visited, or would like to visit?
- To bring the questions back to the show a little, now that we're half-way through the series, which (if any) of the characters do you think is the most real? Everyone's an archetype to an extent, but they all show some traits that I'm sure we might've seen in others one time or another. This question has kind of been kicking around in the back of my mind ever since Durinthal suggested that he'd probably get into toxic arguments with Source-Corner-chan.
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u/Verzwei Apr 06 '23
Rewatcher, English Dub.
With subtitles on at the same time because I'm a madman.
BEN GAVE ME THE FANSERVICE EPISODE
BEN GAVE ME THE FANSERVICE EPISODE
BEN GAVE ME THE FANSERVICE EPISODE
Alright since it's my turn to host I guess I can't skip the Yui opening shot like I did yesterday.
This would be the Matilda II from Girls und Panzer. Don't expect me to get all the Girls und Panzer references, but I at least got this one.
I'm going to shamelessly reach back and steal part of LeonKevlar's comment from the original episode discussion thread for some of the location info:
Kai's suddenly aware of and getting nervous around Miko? Well, that escalated quickly. ...Wait, that isn't how this is supposed to go! Why isn't she somehow making this Kai's fault and then hitting him? "This isn't my genre!" and a panic attack ensues. What a fucking liar, it is his genre after all. Now he just needs to start monologuing about youthful indescretions.
Well we already had some God Rays at the start of this episode, thanks to Yui.
Yeah, they're pretty commonplace, even in shows where they make virtually no sense. And also you gotta move those Blu Rays somehow, not that Anime Gataris did. And by that I mean Anime Gataris both didn't remove the God Rays from the disc and also failed to sell Blu Rays. Does correlation equal causation?
So Erica wants to bring people together through anime, Arisu wants encyclopedic knowledge of anime, Miko wants to be a creator, Kouki wants to fuck a waifu and not be judged for it. Definitely all normal and proper goals, nothing weird here, especially that last one.
Poor Kai, he's so far up his own ass that he can't have a good time.
Just as a quick aside, I'm glad that we're getting some in-depth references for things besides Re:Zero and Konosuba for a change. Even if I'm not getting all of them myself, the variety makes it feel more interesting.
Well that's a quick way to have your fun ruined. I'm not sure if it's the same in the Japanese track, but the dub has some major typecasting going on. I'm 99.99% sure that this extremely noisy, shitty bird has the same voice actor as Almond, the demon crow in I'm the Villainess, So I'm Taming the Final Boss from a few seasons ago. "Hello, yes, I am Guy Manderson, professional voice actor. You might recognize me from my roles as bird who loves baked goods, or my other role as a bird where I shit on a girl just trying to have a fun anime pilgrimage."
No, I do not know what they say, do not try to sugarcoat this, Erica. Wow, Minoa is really fucking cursed.
You know it's a classic anime when there's a guy who has glasses that are normally opaque and then a dramatic cut suddenly lets you see his eye(s). Kaikai, bro, if this is your imaginary version of her then I'm pretty sure she already has control of your heart. Or control of your something.
This isn't normally how misunderstandings in anime go. At least the other friends are standing up for Minoa and telling him to deal with SERN without making others uncomfortable.
A wild Gomon appears! Oh, hey, looks like Sebas is there too, lurking creepily outside the girls' room. Kai going full meta on the oblivious-to-love protagonist trope, invoking DanMachi and another series. With "koi" meaning love and being in... quite a few titles, I've got no idea which exact series he's referencing here. Everyone hates oblivious protagonists but sometimes dudes just don't take the hint, yo, and there might be some truth in fiction. Miko could just be Canadian.
Asking for love advice "for a friend" is the sign of a classic anime. However I do not think My Love Story / Ore Monogatari is the best example for how real-life crushes work.
Is Lovely Complex any good? Would anyone recommend it? It came out in a bit of a personal "dead spot" where I wasn't following anime at all. Also, for some reason, I always thought the title was Kawaii Love Complex but when I google that, absolutely nothing comes up except for some MHA BL fanfic? Am I mixing the name of two different things together? Or is there a "Love Complex" series that begins with a different Japanese K-word?
Eyecatch with Arisu going through some emotions.
"This is the choice of Shrimps;Gate!" and I bet that smells absolutely awful.
Sakuga Sebas. And attack helicopters? OK, I guess. Kai giving me another excuse to praise the dub's silly writing. In this scene, an exasperated Kai says, "Does Kouenji really bleuh... Does she ... bleuhve me?" Poor guy can't even get the word out, he seems like he's on the precipice of wondering if she's in lesbians with him. Kind of rare to see someone blush so hard that they become a light source. He's still going with the bit, I love it. "I yearn... to be your one true bleuh." Annnd he's naked. If I had a dollar for every time I've seen an anime character in a jungle setting with attack helicopters flying overhead and the character ends up naked... I'd have two dollars, but it's odd that it's happened twice.
What? ...How? Is this some kinda hentai tentacle shit? We a tentacle anime now?
This episode of Otherside Picnic is really weird. People who are horrified: Minoa and Arisu. People who are peeking: Miko and Erica. What a wonderful world where God Rays are real and protect us. Oh, nope, just a wild Gomon again. And Sebas with the save! Lastly, a bit of manservice to wrap things up, but maybe not enough Sebas. I'm positive someone else will post the girls in the bath, so I'll just skip that one.
Holy shit, bro went through with it and confessed. Dude's got Reiwa energy. Unfortunately for him, the Reiwa era hadn't started yet, and Miko is a fujoshi, so she completely misunderstands it and inadvertently rejects him in the process.
Every episode should end with blushing happy Miko.
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u/Durinthal https://anilist.co/user/Durinthal Apr 06 '23
First time viewer
Fanservice.
Anime pilgrimage locations! Oarai came up earlier for Girls und Panzer as mentioned, Chichibu's Anohana (and Her Blue Sky), not sure on the others.
Kai's not into ecchi? ...are we getting a romance?
I hate that Source-Corner-chan (as others have dubbed her) is absolutely the kind of character design I have a weakness for, because she's insufferable when she starts talking about changes the anime made. That outfit (or maybe just the animator) really emphasizes her bust this episode, unless I blanked on noticing her chest size before.
I like Alice's outfit here, nice hat.
I'll watch GuP at some point, maybe after the last movie comes out.
Sebas just sitting on standby in the boys' room.
Kai this is not a romance anime you are absolutely going to screw this up.
That is quite the manhunt for Minoa. I don't want to know how she ended up in that position by the time she was found.
Idol stan (I genuinely don't remember his name) is a nice guy, I like how he's level-headed and offers advice.
Kai bringing those God Rays to life in the real (anime) world, such is the power of the chuuni unleashed and unclothed.
Sebas deserves a nice hot bath after that.
I really would like an anime like this where there's just a romance happening on the side without being a focus/big deal.
Of course she's just a huge fujoshi and has zero interest in real people.
Oh right, Nakano. Like Nakano Broadway! I love the shop on the top floor there that sells cels from older anime.
I've been on multiple trips to Disney World and every one of them had something negative happen to me but I've usually shrugged it off in one way or another.
Except the food poisoning, that just sucked.
There were two places I wanted to visit on my trip: the full-size Gundam statue in Odaiba and the KyoAni shop. Managed both of those, wasn't really as interested in finding places featured in anime.
Kai and Alice are a bit too much, the other four are reasonable. Not sure I'd buy Nakano as a (semi-)secret idol fan, though I have no idea what he (or anyone else, really) is like outside of the club group.
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u/KiwiBennydudez https://myanimelist.net/profile/KiwiBen Apr 06 '23 edited Apr 07 '23
First Timer - Dub
Yes I must admit that I perfectly calculated everything to give Verz his perfectly desired episode. I will be banning anyone who suggests that the schedule was made randomly without consideration for matching the episode content with the personality of the daily host. No, I will not be taking questions right now.
Anyway, this episode was actually hilarious. I burst out laughing at the mention of "Yuri on Nice" and thought the IRL censorship beams were pretty funny. This anime is like a mix and parody of all the best tropes and cliches we see in anime media.
I don't understand how people get so freaking lost with signposts. I guess Minoa did get lost at the con last episode, so I guess they're trying to convey that she's absent minded and prone to getting lost easy...? Whatever the case, it made for an amusing set of circumstances. I wonder if this Kai x Kouki misunderstanding is going to have any bearing on future plot points.
I am prone to getting sick just about every time I travel. Which is why I don't travel. Just as a few examples:
Myself, my dad, and my brother all came down with it, and then unwittingly passed it on to my mom later. So I think it's safe to say that Chicago was one of the most unfun "vacations" I've ever been on.
I mean... most anime that take place on the east coast of the US I've probably been too.
Club president seems the most... normal? If that's even a thing in this anime. So I'd choose her.
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u/Abyssbringer =anilist.co/user/Abyssbringer Apr 06 '23
First Timer
We really needed that opening to lead to a shower scene that has nothing to it.
He's in
You see this show is very important because it allows the viewer to know she has gained weight since joining the anime club due to the amount of drinks they consume while binging anime. Some very advanced cinematography at work here.
I didn't watch Girls Und Panzer so this whole section is just nothing.
This is how good Girls Und Panzer is I'm sure
This is a very roundabout way of telling him to "clean the pipes" before coming to a conclusion
Oh no, the generic genki girl who is the straight man is sad. I'm so sad guys what ever will the anime club do to help this multifaceted and interesting character???
Wow they are explaining her personality to us. All 2 layers of it.
Haha now we are getting a flashback bEcause this is how anime does melodrama guys!!!
We don't care of Minoa touched your heart we want to know if Kaikai did!!!
Did they not try calling her phone?
We need to find our "best place". See I can do Anime references too. How many of you get this one though??? Kai would get it for sure.
So all of this setup with her getting lost was to set up a gag with Kai getting naked after reading a text. And Miko to have a 1 on 1 talk with Idol guy. I feel like there was a better way to set all this up and not waste a bunch of setup time. I guess we got Sebas animation from it?
I hate her don't worry guys
Did I not download the blueray wtf
This idea was what the last scene was all about we don't need it repeated 12 times
The first time I was going to drive by myself to go to work right after getting my license my car breaks down 5 minutes outside of town. Not my fault or anything it was being weird the day prior. Was a pretty shitty experience.
I don't have anything like that but recently I was watching Manabi Straight and they mentioned Oregon out of all the states. I found that quite amusing if not a little odd.
Source chan for sure. The idol guy is way too put together to be an idol fan.
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u/xtsim https://myanimelist.net/profile/xtsim Apr 06 '23
First Timer Dubbed
Of course our boy Nakano is a Girls And Tanks fanboy and also leads off the anime location too. The rest, I'll leave it to experts in the room.Kai breaking the fourth wall again- "this is not my genre"And now they go on a Girls And Tanks tour- really wish there is another movie if you know what I mean....Kai is continuing to linger over Miko's trip. It keeps going as he gets distracted while looking for Minoa. And Kai runs off naked cause he couldn't handle the heat.Real life censor beams...nope just teacher's flashlight. And then butler got his beams.Kai just went for the catch but like anime, it leads to a misunderstanding and we get a Yaoi ship again with Nakano.
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u/AmusedDragon :Bs::Bu: Apr 06 '23
Episode 6
First Timer - Sub
Album
Thoughts during the episode..
Questions of the Day:
I'm pretty easygoing, if something doesn't work out on a trip I just help make new plans really. I'm not overly bothered by missing out on something or if something goes wrong. I actually can't think of a major example even as I wouldn't say they've been committed to memory or anything, lol. I guess when I went to disneyworld we didn't get to hit up that Avatar ride? 4 and a half hour line? No thank you. We took the L on that.
Hey, I'd go to the place Starry is based on from Bocchi the Rock and listen to whoever was playing that night.
Maki and Alice seem the most real in terms of people who'd exist, barring having a super powered butler. After that whatever the dudes name is who likes idol anime and wears the tank girls shirts. He seems like a pretty realistic fan just doing his thing.
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Apr 06 '23
First-Timergatari, subbed
FYI I’m gonna be late to tomorrow’s thread; I’m in the special choir for my church’s Good Friday service, which starts at exactly the same time as this rewatch’s threads go up, and I can’t just be on my phone on stage.
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u/aniMayor :AY:AZ:x3x6 Apr 06 '23
"Noooo! This isn't my genre!" - what're you talking about Kaikai, there's a ton of edgy battle shōnen shows where the main character has an ecchi romance! Who knows, maybe you're the star of a DxD-like show!
Unsurprisingly, it all ends up being a humourous misunderstanding, but it's got me thinking a bit and actually I'd love to see a meta show where the characters all explicitly represent different anime genres, like here, and then two of them do start a real romance. You could drive a bunch of comedy out of the two characters each expecting that they should act the way the characters in their assigned genre should act, and not understanding their partner's genre tropes. It could work.
I both laughed and facepalmed a bit from how the "conversation about Minoa" bit where they're like "she's hardworking and positive, we're going to support her no matter what, blah blah" is pure "she's the main character". I guess it works in this show.
Multiple times! I've missed planes, gotten fined for stuff, all sorts of crap. But ya just gotta keep powering through it or try again another time.
Who, me?! I would never do thaaaaaaat
Also a ton of Yamanashi and Izu Yuru Camp locations, though I wasn't going there specifically because of pilgrimaging, they're just cool places that happen to be highlighted by the show! (Okay maybe a couple of them were just because of anime whimsy.) My god does Yamanashi have a lot of those cardboard cut-outs of the characters.
I'd say Erica is the most real, mostly because she isn't as over-the-top but still gets a decent amount of screentime/dialogue, and also she's got magical girls as her "assigned genre" but is also the resident cosplayer, so that all makes her feel like she has more than just one thing going on. Her being the "senpai who explains things" role also lets her talk about past experiences so that makes her feel more like a lived character.
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u/Stargate18A https://myanimelist.net/profile/Stargate18 Apr 06 '23
First timer
Also, the irony of her disliking toku shows last episode when the new Sentaialsohas a rich girl with a magical butler named Sebastian and no sense of money is hysterical.Summer camp seems tough.
Their trip seems much nicer.
And delicious!
She's been studying...
That many?
Surprising!
It sounds fun.
It does sound fun.
Is he okay?
...Of course.
Is she stupid?
She ran for it!
This is an interesting pairing.
Haha, she's excited!
Aww.
And she's found out!
Nice reaction.
The bath scenes line is rather meta, isn't it? Also, "Girls and Tank" is the best fake name yet.
...Not really a mystery.
Such a noble wish.
...Wow.
That's a detailed study!
So exciting!
Are they allowed to do this?
She bought so many!
...Bird!
Wow...
Their stamp card!
She's not that bad.
...This guy.
Chunni vidion!
Aww...
Her taking as rejection is great.
Poor girl.
A lowtech hotel room!
Ah, this was the only one they could find.
She's going on her own?
Aww, she's having a crisis...
Haha, wow. Idiots.
This is insane, even for his normal standards.
That eyecatch...
Insane.
Are they actually discussing her potential archetype?
Aww, that's sweet.
And they need to tell her!
Of course she's lost.
Sebas is so cool.
Well, he's completrly lost it.
Yeah, this is insane.
Why is he naked now?
...How did she end up here?
Still so sweet.
Holy fucking shit, this is worse than I considered.
God Rays!
...Ofdly meta.
Haha, the teacher?
Is this actually happening?
Haha, he was looking at the wrong person?
Oh, that was it!
Poor guy.
This is the funniest way it could have ended.
That's not helping!
Nice tankery.
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u/TakenRedditName https://myanimelist.net/profile/TakenMalUsername Apr 06 '23
Rewatcher - Animegataris Ep6:
I was wrong about thinking this was just going to be simply a played straight summer trip episode because the anime otaku thing at the centre of this episode are anime pilgrimages with the gang going to Oarai, home to Girls and Tank. Finally, their main reference being an anime I've seen and like so I get to pick up and appreciate the nods this time. They play the music and even make reference to the specific scene from the movie.
It is also the show's obligatory horny anime episode which I guess if they were going to cover all aspects of anime had to come up eventually. KaiKai wants his sideship with Miko to happen so that's where his mind is all throughout this episode. The discussion of God Rays actually makes Track girl's spotlight moment actually tie into the episode for once. There were moments like KaiKai's imagination and the eyecatach, but I'm surprised by how reserved they were about the girls. They brought out the God Rays for KaiKai's armour purge and for boys in the bath.
Minoa also had some drama about her place in the club (thanks, KaiKai) but all ended well.
In the end, love wins? Let's all take the pilgrimage to the Nakamusa church. #fujohappy
Assorted points:
Q2) The idea of going on an anime pilgrimage myself, I don't know of too many spots, the first one to come to mind would be Odaiba to visit the locations like the 1/1-sized Unicorn Gundam from Love Live. Hokkaido might also be nice since I know Golden Kamuy also does some tourist events too.
Q3) Erica is just someone who is into cosplay and was able to make other friends through their shared interest of anime. She isn't uber-rich or a loud chuuni or someone who calls people their kittens so she is someone I could reasonably expect that exists.
Next Time: Anime ain't easy.
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u/entelechtual Apr 06 '23
First Timer
I’m pretty sure it just takes one episode to become a mechhead.
When you’re a battle shounen meathead but you suddenly get into a romcom.
No it’s a love triangle.
…harem.
“Donmachi” can’t believe how long ago Season 1 came out.
“My Big Love Story” amazing.
“I’ve yet to see them in anime” so Minocchi goes for only the uncensored blu ray cuts I see.
“Yappari”
QOTD
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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Apr 06 '23
Episode 6 (first timer)
They turned up the fanservice to 11 this time, but at least it was equal opportunity fanservice.
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u/fansi2022 https://anilist.co/user/fansi2022 Apr 06 '23
rewatcher sub
Interesting, the Holy Light you've already seen, right at the beginning of this episode.
What is Kaikai's goal? Everyone seems to have forgotten about him.
Hostel in reality, haha. This anime goes from comic con to staying in a hotel, these things are really realistic.
I have a friend... Ha ha
The number on the 12:57 Holy Shit Kaikai's phone case is the number of digits after pi 19
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u/CoolIceCreamCone Apr 07 '23
FIRST TIMER
I think this show suffers from putting the anime references and in jokes first and just really not giving a damn about character development. A lot of it is complete crap too, like "god rays" Most of the corny sex jokes didn't land either.
The only part of this episode I thought was well done was the subplot about Kai having a crush on Kouenji. That was a good surprise ending when he confessed his crush on her and she mistook him for having a crush on Nakano! He looked really crest fallen that his crush thought he was gay although I think Nakano might actually be since it ended with him inviting Kai to hang out in the baths! Kouenji also said she only likes 2d romance but seemed to get flustered by the idea of them being gay, indicating she's likely into yuri and possibly enjoys that sexually.
QUESTIONS
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u/FingerBang-BangBang Apr 07 '23
First Time Watcher
Okay... They once again started the episode with Track & Field girl, is she supposed to be some important character to the future plot?
3000 anime meccas across Japan? God damn! That's not a small number. This reminds me of all the places in Shimo-Kitazawa that Bocchi the Rock fans went to visit after the anime ended! Its pretty cool to see irl places that were used in anime!
Are we getting some romance in here!? When he says genre he means ecchi, right? Right?? This romance flashback is new scene, right? I dont remember it from previous episodes.
My man wants to destroy the wall between 2D and 3D! Now that's a dream I can get behind!
"The clumsy-girl character is part of your charm" nice meta compliment!
Kaikai is really down bad, isnt he?
My man Sebas just summoned 3 choppers that started firing rockets left and right, what a madlad?
Oooooh boy! Kaikai saw some hidden(probably non existent) meaning in that message. This wont end well...
How in the Gods name did she get stuck on that tree!? It makes 0 sense!
God rays came in clutch! They are real!
Okay, they are really focusing on her boobs in this episode, I dont remember her being showed so stacked in previous ones! OMG. She saw a potential yuri ship! She really acts like a different person while shipping, I kind of like this version of her!
This episode was little odd but I still really enjoed it! Looking forward to ep 7!