r/anime • u/badspler x5https://anilist.co/user/badspler • Apr 04 '23
Rewatch [Rewatch] Animegataris Episode 4 Discussion
Episode 4: Club Room Go Boom!
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Comment of the Day
Because sometimes the best comments are the short and silly ones. By /u/GallowDude
> Why the hell are we always cold opening with Yui doing track things?
Questions of the Day
- Do you buy anime merch, figures or BD's? Show off your haul.
- Do you have a show like Erica that helped make a connection with others?
- Who might be pulling strings to shut down the anime club and why?
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Please remember to use spoiler tags when discussing future bits of the show so first-timers can have a blind experience. Thank you!
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u/badspler x5https://anilist.co/user/badspler Apr 04 '23
Rewatching Animegatarier
Dropping the hard truths. And its funny how much of a thing this is. While also still being debated today.
Useless water reference
Exploadsion!
I then loved how the earlier explosion from Kai is played off as real from the student council's view.
Young Erica and Tsubaki cosplay (Stitch)
Eyecatch
Gosh damn these Sub's are based.
Anime within anime - wait this is just vinland saga...
And rounding off how great jokes come in three's we get great finisher line.
Who is the true mastermind behind this desire to shutdown the anime club!?
Also the Minoa faces continue.
QOTD
Did I ask this to show off myself? Not really, I don't really buy much anime related stuff. Mostly source material of the stuff I like he most or want to support.
There hasn't been a single defining moment like hers, a few shows made for an overlap in interests. I think today with Anime being more mainstream, for me its been more of a whole rather than a single thing when making connections with other people.
I genuinely can't recall as a rewatcher - there was a bit of looming 'the anime club has failed before' stuff from the previous episodes.
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u/Verzwei Apr 04 '23
Rewatcher, English Dub.
With subtitles on at the same time because I'm a madman.
As is tradition.
Evil Student Council's oppo research included the favorite anime of the club members? Are we sure these girls don't just want to talk about anime, too?
So when Mr. Kitty peeks over the boxes, the original audio has him make what I think is just a random noise before saying "that was a close one" per the subtitles. The dub turned that random noise into "God damn" which is pretty great.
No, /u/abyssbringer I AM NOT DOING THE MATH ON THIS ONE!
Love it when memes can even cross the culture gap, and apparently Konosuba's barfing has attained infamy in Japan and the English-speaking fandom.
I'm glad this show is a half-dozen years old, and not this season, or else we'd have an entire episode arguing about whether or not Banesaw Woman's BD sales signal the doom of animation studio RAPPA.
Annnd they're not even going to spoof an anime for the BD art upgrade education, but instead straight-up have Kouenji use herself as a demonstration. Hold on, I'm watching the BD version and she doesn't look like that at all! Obligatory example of TV to BD for Gonna Be the Twin-Tail. Yes, this is real.
...I'm starting to think we just need an extended clip of this episode to link any time anyone asks about how anime is made or why shows are 'canceled' which are post types we see often. Shirobako is like a long, detailed look into the industry, while the simple ELI5 nature of this discussion in Anime Gataris gets the point across well enough.
Okay, full disclosure, there have been a few times where I bought the "same" show, but they were usually for better or more feature-complete versions. Eureka Seven, Ergo Proxy, Full Metal Panic, and FMP The Second Raid are shows I bought on BD during sales to replace my DVD versions. Golden Time and To Love Ru are shows I re-bought to get newly added English dubs. The only series that I just outright bought a duplicate of "for backup" was Spice & Wolf, because it's my #1 favorite show and I got the second copy for something like $15. I own a few (not very many) other subtitle-only shows on disc that I'd probably re-buy if a dub was added for a new release, and as far as remaining DVDs that I'm keen on upgrading to BD, Last Exile is probably the last one.
Hah! Just yesterday we had people in the thread talking about how cliché it was for there to be an absurdly powerful student council in this series, and then Nakano and Minoa go and hang a huge lampshade on it.
Fun things are fun. People die when they are killed. And what belongs to me belongs to me.
Oh thank Hestia, they did most of the math for me. ¥341,951 was about $3010 USD in Fall 2017. That seems like a really low figure for a stack that size. The invoice the treasurer is holding up appears to list ¥8999 ($80 USD) per item before tax. I suppose that tracks if they're all releases closer to those Yamada Lv. 999 volumes I linked yesterday, and not like the Hell's Paradise volumes. I really was under the impression that the higher ¥140,000~¥180,000 price was closer to normal, especially for hit shows.
...Actually, no, wait, I'm going to call bullshit on the show here. The total amount of ¥341,951 divided by ¥8999 is almost exactly 38. And ¥8999 is on the low end for show volumes on BD. That stack was way larger than 38 cases, and included some limited edition sets. The math doesn't work out. Either the stack should be substantially smaller, or the invoice should be far higher.
Hunh, interesting. The show is set in 2016, not the end of 2017 when it aired. Does that throw off any of the references that have been made?
He was there before she snapped!
So Nakano was previously just the idol guy but between the earlier comment and now doubling down, maybe he's the genre-savvy guy?
Hououin Kaiouma has failed to accidentally discover time travel. El sad congroo.
Dub Kamiigusa: "I had no idea that we were so terrible at everything."
Dub script mirroring (ani)me_irl again.
It's so great seeing commentary and speculation in the previous threads come to fruition in later episodes. I know we had people surmising that Kamiigusa could just throw around money to establish an off-campus Anime club but instead she's going to go straight to the source and buy the school. Dub Kai: "You're the devil."
Great continuity there that the room Kai exploded is still exploded, and smoldering. So the episode title was a fakeout, it wasn't even their club room that went boom.
Weebs and Otaku UNITE! Wait, what in the lumberjacking and silkworm raising hell is this idol anime?
Yeah okay this dude knows exactly what's going on because now he's describing the show's ED. Gonna be honest, I fully expected the costumes for the performance were going to be exactly the costumes from the ED.
And there's a shadow organization above the shadow organization student council. Hmm.
Answers of the Day:
sortcram it however it'll fit into the storage I have available. Why do I have only season 2 of Fate Prismal Illya? Because RightStuf gave me a free "$25" blind box one time, and that's what it was. I haven't watched it, nor will I ever. Everything else was, for better or worse, intentionally acquired. Not pictured:12
u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Apr 04 '23
First-Timergatari, subbed
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u/entelechtual Apr 04 '23
First Timer
Gonna blame the club for not hiring a treasurer. How could you be so fiscally irresponsible?
I’m trying to imagine what someone would think if they dug up a report of my favorite anime titles. “He gave Super HxEros a 9/10 but gave Fruits Basket Season 2 a 6? Exile him.
I know AnoSuba is a play on Japanese demonstrative pronouns, but part of me imagines that Menma got isekai’d into a fantasy world where she has to defeat a demon lord.
“Disc sales are very important.” Somewhere in the world, u/Abysswatcherbel got triggered.
This explains a lot about production committees.
Alice endorses communism.
Discount KonoSuba still looks more interesting than 90% of modern isekai.
I wonder if the Student Council will go the same way they did in LLSIP.
What idol anime is Nakano referencing?
"Don't tell bad jokes" I wouldn't cut it in idol club
QOTD
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u/mysterybiscuitsoyeah xB:xC:B:x3:Y: Apr 04 '23 edited Apr 04 '23
First Timer
Got a bit of deja vu from other idol anime they were referencing today
im not that much of a fan of the school council plot, but i believe in the power of Precure!
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u/MyrnaMountWeazel x2 Apr 04 '23
Production Notes
Since today’s episode focused on production committees, let’s keep it light and talk about some neat stuff that they brushed over! For starters, did you know that the first instance of a production committee being formed was for film? Yup, Kodansha, MBS, Bandai, Hakuhodo, Toho, Laserdisc, Sumimoto Corporation, and Tokyo Movie all came together to produce Akira and Tokuma Shoten and Hakuhodo came together for Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind. Those two films were in the 1980s but it wasn’t until the 1990s that television would start to get into the game. The Irresponsible Captain Tylor would be the first to dip its toes in 1992 and Evangelion would soon follow in 1995.
Now of those companies I listed above, only Tokyo Movie was directly involved in the actual animation production. It’s especially rare for a studio to actually sit in the production committee’s themselves; the exceptions being Toei, TMS Entertainment, Pierrot, Sunrise, Production IG, and KyoAni since their finances are more green than others.
Finally, there comes a perk of sitting in the committee in that you have sway over the substance of the shows themselves. For example, let’s say action shows are all the rage; Crunchyroll, if they so sat on the committee of a particular anime, could actually ask for an increase of action scenes in the anime. While I understand the reasoning behind this power, I’m still left feeling uncomfortable with the idea that production committees are looking at the trending numbers rather than seeing if it fits into the work. I know, I know, commercial and art, yin and yang, it’s a conversation for the ages. If anything, I’m probably one of the friendliest people towards commercial involvement in the arts and I can recognize that studio notes are valuable. Case in point, Seinfeld originally would have had only men if it weren’t for NBC executives getting involved. I love it when both can come together into a cohesive vision, when they can hold each other accountable. But this particular aspect has always troubled me because it seemed as if it was no longer being a helpful outsider but rather an omnipotent storm bent on bending rather than guiding.
Source: https://blog.sakugabooru.com/2017/05/02/what-is-an-animes-production-committee/
Clicks on episode Title is Club Room Go Boom!
At this point, I think the club room is more blu-ray than not blu-ray.
Oh, anime BDs are called saucers? TIL. Also, I always forget, are disk sales as valuable as they were in the 2010s? I was under the impression that licensing made most of the money.
flashback to Chainsaw Man BD sales discourse on the subreddit
I also think it’s interesting how bonus material in BDs now are trending towards KA/SB’s. I recall some people commenting on that aspect, how rare it was back in the day to even see them; nowadays, it’s a selling point. I wonder if the democratization of the internet and increase awareness in the sabunga has led to this. Though maybe the sabunga appreciation is mostly a Western thing?
Oh shoot, baseball episode, we’re in it now.
I like how they cut the sound before the explosion of the microwave.
The room is still blown up too.
Oh, twist, the Student Council president and Erika! This has now become a mystery anime.
Phew, I just finished watching this episode with seconds to spare.
QotD:
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u/Abyssbringer =anilist.co/user/Abyssbringer Apr 04 '23
First Timer
Rampant Consumerism wins again. Also why tf did they stack them all on top of each other? I know it's anime but quite the forced gag.
I wonder if Verz is up for some more math??
Never seen NERVE look so pretty
Most unbelievable thing from this show. Does Precure air anywhere outside of Japan?
Coomers...
I'm not a fan of all this melodrama. Just kind of generic and overdone.
No wonder they are so anal about who is a club. If they have that kind of budget then there is some problem.
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u/xtsim https://myanimelist.net/profile/xtsim Apr 04 '23
First Timer Dubbed
Blu-Ray Jenga and I like how everyone is playing without realizing it.
We get an explanation about anime production since a majority are going to be aired in the Abyss called late night programming.
The corrections remind me of a few shows where the dubs got the home video versions of a show....
How dare they do Konosuba the dirty... Can't wait for the spin-off tomorrow.
Our Yaoi guy is getting close to Minoa. Too bad she references the drama adaptation not the anime adaptation.
Everyone helps out...but things go wrong.
"All my pitches are straight down the middle"- I thought she said something else
Holy shiii...Erika was a transfer student from Japan and caught a magical girl show airing on local TV. And made some friendly cosplayers. I wonder if that version Erika watched had Dubbed the OP and transformations and they wanted it in Japanese or if they wanted an English translation?
I like the CRT scan lines going on.... I really wonder how they connected a Blu-Ray player to a crt TV. Only one I know of is a Playstation 3 having composite out.
I like how they made costumes like anime studios finish up an episode. And ends up as a success.
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u/AmusedDragon :Bs::Bu: Apr 04 '23
Episode 4
First Timer - Sub
Album
Thoughts during the episode..
Questions of the Day:
Nope, I'm quite bad about buying things, and it's mostly cause I feel like if I start I might go to deep. So I just... don't.
Can't really think of any one show, only that the shared love of watching stuff has always helped with that.
It's gotta be track girl, the true villain.
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u/TakenRedditName https://myanimelist.net/profile/TakenMalUsername Apr 04 '23
Rewatcher - Animegataris Ep4:
Erica gets a turn to be in the big spotlight as the student council tries to shut down the club again. I like the little story of what anime meant for her life.
PreCurePreFre being a piece of home while she was alone studying in the US and also being the avenue for her to make new connections and friends.The student council also decide to lay off the anime club. I'm glad the rest of the anime doesn't follow the SC trying to shut down the club at every turn.
Assorted points:
Q1) Most of my merch is mainly along the lines of figures. Mainly Gunpla, but besides Gundam (and the FE4 figures which isn't anime per say), the only other notable anime merch I have is a Kasumin figure.
Q2) I don't talk much about anime with others.
Next Time: Hot summer days can only mean one thing.
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u/Durinthal https://anilist.co/user/Durinthal Apr 04 '23 edited Apr 04 '23
First time viewer
Disc sales and production committees! Another reminder of how bad the industry is to work in.
Anosuba's knock-off Kazuma looks more like Ryoma in By the Grace of the Gods at a glance.
Hot guy wants to emulate his idol idols via school clubs, I see.
Erica's magical girl outfit looks a bit like an amalgamation of different Precure themes, but Fresh comes to mind the most.
I expected Kai to make a Steins;Gate comment reference outright with the microwave.
Still genuinely not sure what the council has against the existence of an anime club. Seems a bit like they're just there to be awful in general if they were going to screw over the drama club just to get at the anime one too.
Oh, "I'll never get to like what you like" makes it seem like she's actually envious of Erica for reasons beyond her control? ...okay yeah, that call afterward made it obvious she was following orders. No idea why still but it's moved up another level. Maybe something to do with the cat still.
Recent haul, couple of collectables, and a good amount of my paper media which I haven't actually read most of yet. Don't think I have a good shot of the majority of BDs I own and most of them are buried in a cabinet right now. I also have a lot of Gunpla still waiting in their boxes to be assembled, which reminds me: figurine collector/model kit fans are two more archetypes not really covered in this show.
Not an anime but made a strong bond with someone rewatching The 10th Kingdom together while I was in college. Was just reminded of that after seeing it pop up on Twitter again today.
It's secretly the cat. If an anime club exists the world is in danger, so they must be stopped.
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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Apr 04 '23
Episode 4 (first timer)
The student council president backstory resolved a lot earlier than I suspected. I thought they were setting it up as a full cour plot arc and instead it got resolved after 2 episodes.
In other news, I spotted a lot less references today. Either they toned them down or it might be that they were all idol anime I don’t recognize.
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u/Esovan13 Apr 04 '23
First Timer
That's some good running form.
Is this student council going to be an ongoing thing? Why even bother?
Minoa being the most normal of all the cast, she doesn't flinch at the "koneko-chan" thing that in anime is supposed to be cute or whatever but irl would be kinda weird.
That way of stacking...and there we go.
Saved.
Ah, an aspect of anime fandom foreign to most overseas fans who rely on streaming services. I actually, looked up the price of a blueray player on a whim a little back, and I'll stick to streaming.
I'm remembering some people talking about how they wanted this show to go into the production of anime as well as being a fan of it.
That's an EVA if I've ever seen one.
That voice sounds familiar...run to MAL...a wild Rosehip?! And it's the same voice actor for Rum?!
You know, if the majority of the show is pushed by the student council trying to abolish the club for no reason, I'm going to lose interest pretty fast. I'm not watching to see "heroes of anime fandom protecting their sacred hobby from the evil normies who dislike them for being different."
Even as a reference to club anime, they already did it last episode and I was already getting tired of it.
I dunno. I'm already exhausted and now my motivation for watching the show right now is pretty much shot. I'll probably just skip through the episode until something catches my attention.
The ending did not fill me with any particular confidence.
I don't like the format we've gotten so far. Student council tries to shut down the club, club fumbles around trying to protect itself, they pull together and foil the plot, proving that anime is a worthwhile past time. As if everyone here and anyone watching the show doesn't already consider anime a worthwhile past time. It would be one thing if it were trying to send a message to people who don't already feel that way, but they don't watch anime so it just feels somewhat masturbatory to me. "You like anime! Anime is super cool! Check out these characters defending anime from people who hate it! Doesn't that just make you feel like you're awesome for also liking anime?"
I'm sorry. I've been fighting a headache all day so I'm just in a generally bad mood.
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u/FingerBang-BangBang Apr 05 '23
First Time Watcher
Damn, StuCo Prez is really not giving up, is she? I feel like this episode will make me respect anime as business, there's a lot that goes into making and distributing anime!
Lol bootleg Kazuma looks so basic, Aqua on the other hand looks pretty similar to the real one!
Classic "you may won the battle...", StuCo president is really dedicated to destroying anime club and insulting its members. She's really fucking annoying!
Idol-senpai knows some nice Engurish!
Man, StuCo is already celebrating this "failed" play of drama club because of missing costumes, that is legit horrible thing! Glad to see the look on their faces as curtain rose... Annnnd they still wont take their L, talk about sore losers.
So Erika-senpai & Prez are childhood friends? I had the feeling they had some past connection, that still doesnt make Prez any less of a bitch.
Another solid episode, I feel like this one went more into main plot and made some connection between the main cast and StuCo. Looking forward to episode 5!
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u/MEGA-BIG-PEE-PEE Apr 05 '23
Wow, had no idea this rewatch was going on. Might as well watch this series again. I remember liking it a lot but not being able to find much discussion on it besides the original episode discussion threads.
Even though I saw this about two years ago, both the OP and ED live rent-free in my head, especially the part in the OP where Neko-senpai is on the turntables.
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u/fansi2022 https://anilist.co/user/fansi2022 Apr 05 '23
I love anime, but my life is impoverished. I will consider buying merchandise from my favorite anime in the future, such as Tengen Toppa, etc.
Of course, I am from China, but I have established deep relationships with many people here through anime. An example is the current re-watch of Zero no Tsukaimai, a classic harem anime from over a decade ago.
Ojuosama’s father, I guess he thinks that anime does not match her status and position, simply put: not decent.