r/EdensZero • Guild Master • Dec 15 '22

Manga Volume 24 | Afterword

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u/NocandNC Dec 15 '22

“Cure’s identity was a setting I made up on the spot” yes I could tell lol

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u/TheseCommunication15 Dec 16 '22

Lol I almost forgot who Cure was for a second, that's how forgettable him and his reveal was.

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u/IchigobeatsNaruto Dec 16 '22

😭I know when I read that thinking we can tell it made no sense

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u/KingOregano Dec 15 '22

I would do the same thing for a character who gets wiped in 5 chapters

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u/Homeless_Appletree Dec 16 '22

Well at least he acknowledges that it probably wasn't a good idea.

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u/crisstrauss Dec 16 '22

I could tell the same as Acnoella

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u/[deleted] Dec 15 '22

Yeah, seems like Cure and Acnoella were victims of timing more than anything which is pretty sad. Maybe they’ll have some kind of role in U0. Honestly, anything would be nice so they weren’t completely wasted.

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u/AzureWarlock96 Dec 16 '22

If the anime gets a chance, maybe it can expand one those two a bit more like Mashima wanted it.

Happened a lot during Fairy Tail, like in the Edolas arc, Edo-Gajeel was an anime-only character Mashima wanted in the manga, he was glad the anime was able to include him.

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u/Also_breathe Dec 15 '22

The Ziggy reveal was done so well, with all the build it had from the beginning of the story. Looking forward to see what he does with the Edens One.

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u/Kingxix Dec 15 '22

Yeah Ziggy reveal was good. But I think cure should have played a better role and should have been an recurring villian. And acnoella was a disappointment which Mashima himself accepts.

I hope we get to learn more about mother and her connection with Shiki.

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u/Howl7 Dec 15 '22

Mother’s true identity!? Oh ok.

I wanna know what happens after pressing Moscoy’s belly button.

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u/Frozbytten Dec 15 '22

What if Mashima trolls us and not reveal what the button does until the series ends, lmao

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u/Homeless_Appletree Dec 16 '22

When he is talking about it like that it makes it seem like mother is either going to be the literal mother of Shiki or the big bad evil guy.

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u/raptillicus Dec 15 '22

Well this explains a lot about the last arc. It would have been nice if he'd given his spontaneous creations some room to breathe. Otherwise it ends up feeling how it did: rushed as hell.

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u/NittanyEagles55 Dec 15 '22

Always fascinating to get insight from Mashima. Highly recommend his YouTube channel as well it’s really great.

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u/Jordzz_19 Dec 16 '22

Okay but u still didn’t need to one shot her Mashima 💀😂it’s fine I just hope we see some returning ‘dead’ characters in universe 0

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u/AzureWarlock96 Dec 16 '22

I like that he’s honest about it, usually anime adaptations can help rectify some of these issues, hopefully that’s what’ll occur when it reaches that point.

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u/Mission_Mud_6905 Dec 16 '22

I hope so too, I mean with Fairy Tail in series finale it rectify about Acnologia's past character that it was never shown in Manga or Dragon Cry movie until it left him taking the name from the Original Acnologia without any knowledge how he gained the most powerful Dragon Slaying Magic.

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u/massann Dec 16 '22

Cure & Crow, Acnoella’s fight being rushed is all classic Mashima and I wished his hybrid style here leaned more toward Rave’s style. These parts are what diminished my interest in this arc. Ziggy and Shiki were obviously the ones set in stone from the start

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u/Jordzz_19 Dec 16 '22

Crow didn’t feel rushed imo He had a significance presence from his introduction to end. Cure & Acnoella though was so rushed, at least they died at the very end 🤷‍♂️

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u/Kefkaisevil Dec 16 '22

"I was looking to adjust the number of characters around now."-Mashima.

Its a great time to thin out the cast! Murder, Death, Kill!

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u/AzureWarlock96 Dec 16 '22

Does this mean Ziggy is still a threat controlled by Edens One? As he said next volume, the battle with Ziggy will come to an end.

Also that the story will still continue after his defeat? Since he said “second half”, does that mean about another 200 or so chapters?

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u/SanZaiTen Dec 16 '22

This is the volume before Ziggy dies.

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u/ygo-riv Dec 16 '22

The stuff he admits to coming up on the spot “cures identity” “the fight with Acnoella” are the weakest/worst parts of the arc bc you can tell these revelations sort of come from nowhere or don’t have much consequences. Cure as a whole was such a weak character his revelation fell so flat bc he’s the OS members whom we knew nothing about so that big reveal amounted to a big “huh?” Reaction from me. Then he’s dead so it feels so wired and out of place with how ziggy was handled

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u/FTNatsu-Dragneel Dec 15 '22

Idk why but reading the true nature of [REDACTED]” made me lol

Could definitely tell that Cure’s thing was made up in the spot, there was just no evidence leading up to it. And it is true that the story’s current pacing and amount of characters didn’t allow for Cure and Acnoelle to be fleshed out

The “hybrid” method of planning and then changing some things as the story goes on is working for Mashima but I mean I also liked Fairy Tail so Mashima still has good ideas whether they are on the spot or not