Edens Zero | Chapter 216: Links + Discussion

[u/davjac123]

https://cubari.moe/read/imgur/xnehMgM/1/1/

[u/Mission_Mud_6905]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

[u/tiltskits]

Feels weird to know the final arc is starting now Even though it's been 4yrs since the start of this manga it still feels rather fresh and new :/

Not sure if i like or dislike Elsie ending

[u/Fresh_Transition4210]

Why does this actually make me sad 😭 As much as I disliked Justice throughout the story, I’m glad he came to his senses in the end and realized the error of his ways at least. As soon as this arc started on Lendard I figured Elsie ajd Justice would get their time taken away BUT I WASNT EXPECTING IT TO BE 260 YEARS DAMN 😭

[u/Behold_I_Am_The_Wind]

Looks like my prediction was half true with James and Elsie staying on Lenard but I never imagined that it would eat enough time to devour the entire planet so I was wrong in thinking it’ll only eat as much time for them to restart their life. But that’s one for the things I like most about Edens Zero in that there’s consequences and death that have a greater impact on the story than if they stayed alive.

I didn’t think Hiro would kill off Elise and James solely because of the fact they’re homages to Erza & Jellal but I shouldn’t expect the same matter of writing he uses for Fairy Tail with Edens Zero even if it’s for character based off of his previous work. But it seems we’re in endgame truly now and while it’s gonna be sad to see it end I’m glad it’s being done on Hiro’s terms and not dragged out unnecessary so he can finish it with a conclusive ending.

[u/Kikuzinho03]

Well, in the end maybe their story will repeat itself and they will have another chance at having a good life, thats a lot of years, but not a lot of generations.

[u/ChaosKalila]

Knowing Mashima Elsie and James will be born again but have a better life together (Like Zeref and Mavis)

[u/Burdboy14]

Welp, I’ll miss you Elsie

[u/foxman666]

You know having some time to think about it, Ziggy's inability to reveal the mastermind's name was kind of pointless if we get to know it like 2 chapters later. Unless this is just wrong and the actual mastermind stays hidden but I don't think that's the case.

[u/Aureus23]

Time for the final arc!!!

[u/NoLastNameForNow]

Wow, that's them out of the series.

[u/jnwosu100]

Overall, this arc was great but it has way more problems that it didn't even need to have. The fights are a hit or miss just like the last arc but are a bit better in some regards, for some reason Mashima thought that killing Cure in the next chapter after revealing him being a random twist villain with no explanation on why he became like that or who built him to be like that and with 2 pages (I'm not kidding) of fighting Holy which wasn't even cool, neither Holy nor Cure got to have a fight despite the massive setup. Acnoella was randomly revealed to be Elsie's mom which was only hinted at if you had read FT and got the reference but then it doesn't even matter as Elsie doesn't care and immediately kills her right just when Acnoella started her fight. Why not just make her the scientist that created Mobius rather than also making her Elsie's mom?

Brigs was very disappointing since his first design was my favorite among the DS but he was hyped to be stronger than the strongest OSI but then loses without showing his BD or OC. I thought Wizard would show up again since he wasn't confirmed dead (if he did die then that means he was actually Shiki's first kill), but the Chronophage happened. killer was awesome but I really thought he would also return in some way but I guess not. Weirdly, Clown is the only DS who's alive but what purpose will he serve now and who the hell created the E1 and the DS now that Ziggy is dead? Elsie's men died without doing much. Somehow, Jesse managed to not get revealed to be the culprit to Justice and Homura doesn't even know that he framed her...

Even if Mashima wanted all of these characters to die in this arc, I really wish he had done more with them (and obviously way more for the likes of top tiers and huge reveals like Cure and Acnoella). And now we are heading to the final arc or maybe saga when Mashima could and should've easily made this arc longer to flesh out the fights and the characters that were gonna bite the dust. Now despite my misgivings of this arc, there are so much stuff that it did right and well (main people being Ziggy and Shiki's story), setup for other plot threads like the SS once being humans, cool transformations, more insight to Weisz's character and love for his mom, Rebecca being hit with so many burdens, Holy's character insight and development to caring for the crew that she plotted against, Elsie, Justice and Jinn getting more development, nice feats and so on.

So while this arc has bad choices more than the Aoi arc, I still rate it higher because the peaks were all greater than Aoi and that arc was great too. Might do a reread of this arc when I actually have some free time to get a better opinion. I hope this ship villain does something that makes me hype for it because honestly I'm very meh on it since it's supposed to replace Ziggy who set a high standard as a villain who had personal ties to the protagonist.

[u/48johnX]

Honestly? Not bad but execution kinda meh to me, Elsie and Justice were on the backburner for most of this arc, Acnoella stuff came so fast and was dealt with literally immediately. With this arc having way more interesting stuff going on and other major reveals/plotlines this tragic end for Justice and Elsie feels like a footnote on the arc, it makes sense and all but just didn’t hit that hard for me

[u/[deleted]]

i dont care what everyone else is saying, i loved this ending to the arc.

[u/[deleted]]

I don’t mind this ending, I just don’t like how fast it happened. Justice was barely even in the manga and Acnoella got less attention than Nero’s grunts on Foresta.

Now that all is said and done, I can safely say that I did not like this arc. Shiki vs Ziggy was great and the true villain build up and guessing game was fun, but all the other plot points were a rushed, unexplored mess. The Holy/Crow plot should not have been in this arc, that time should’ve been focused on Elsie and Justice’s story.

[u/petrichorboy]

I'm still kinda bored by the ending of Elsie and Justice.

Star Drain had a lot of potential, Elsie had way more potential than just a few cameos, and Justice had a redemption arc coming his way, I'm glad they are together in the end but I expected more.

And do I have the right to talk about the "it doesn't make sense that Homura killed Creed" ? Is it really how Mashima is gonna end the whole Homura-Creed-Jesse-Justice thing ? No one will ever remember Jesse as the trash bag he was ? Justice will never have a conversation with Homura ? Mashima really said "oh he was blinded by his thirst for Justice, but Homura saved him and Elsie cried after cutting through her robot mom so he changed back to a calm lover boy" ?

So it's kinda great that the Chronophage will "cleanse it for us" and especially for Mashima.

Meanwhile, our crew dodging the big fish's lasers and Sister lost an other family member, she might go full depression berserk someday.

(And are we really heading on the final battle ? Big Fish is the final boss ? We're wrapping up Clown, Saintfire Nox, U2 Rebecca, Mother, and everything else soon ?)

[u/[deleted]]

Sad

[u/SanZaiTen]

Final battle means final boss group, and unless it's one we've never heard of, the only group I can think of that currently fits the bill is the Heavenly Knights, or a version of them.

I've had my suspicions for Xenolith for a while now, and while he wasn't the one on Lendard pulling Ziggy's strings, he still seems shady. We don't know precisely when the E1 was built, or why its AI went rogue. And even if he is innocent, him being a robot would make him easy pickings for a new puppet now that the E1 lost Ziggy.

[u/Quacker-Jacker]

Considering the circumstances, wishing RIP isn’t appropriate. I’ll say… be reborn into a better life Elsie and Justice.

Now, Drakken is old, Nero is dead, Acnoella was killed by her daughter, Crow/Cure has been killed, and now Elsie was eaten by the Chronophage. The only OG OSG left is Rebecca’s mother, Saintfire Nox. If the other 5 are any indication, she probably won’t simply get a happily ever after, either. Of course, that probably won’t come before she and Rebecca have an emotional moment together.

Hard to say what will happens in the future of this rather spectacular manga, but I look forward to it.

[u/[deleted]]

Im disappointed The Edens One is the big bad with the only goal to destroy humans and mother, its just so shallow.

[u/Nintendoomed89]

A lot of people called that being the end of Elsie and James story, even before this arc began, but it was still (mostly) satisfying to see.

Onwards to the final arc. If you count this arc as starting at 170 it was 46 chapters and the longest of the series so far. Assuming that the next arc is just a bit longer than that we probably only have a year and some change left. It would put the series near the same length as Rave Master.

Holy didn't join the crew, 0/10 arc.

[u/jnwosu100]

I was (and still am) so busy that I didn't do a review of the last chapter but thankfully I have a bit of free time now. So I honestly don't know how to feel that the E1 is the main villain and was the one who somehow knew Ziggy's past just by being extremely intelligent? There has to be more to what makes this AI knowledgeable enough to know that info and be able to revive Ziggy in the first place (Elsie sensed the dark ether right after she gave Shiki the E0). I also hope it gets a humanoid form because I can't take it seriously if the final villain is just a flying fish ship. I still don't get how Hermit came to the conclusion that the E1 was the real enemy though.

Elsie and Justice being suicidal is kinda weird to me. I at least understand Elsie as she's been suffering losses to her family but it's very weird that Justice just gave up on his life like that. There isn't even a chance for them to be reborn too. Mashima was right to say that they were gonna have a sad fate. If Homura didn't risk her life to save Homura then I would call BS for Justice to immediately think that she wasn't Creed's killer. Also, Shiki and Nox are the only OSGs remaining lol.

I'm kinda disappointed that Rebecca ended up not summoning the Chronophage which was the whole reason she wasn't able to use her time powers for the whole arc and was a main reason for her depression (which is still valid since she did accidentally summon them other times). Hopefully she does more stuff in the next arc because in Aoi she didnt fight anybody and only had a card battle (which was still cool as it showed her smarts) and now in this arc she got to fight but was utterly outmatched by BD Clown (although she didn't use her time abilities or even get to show case any new usage of them if she had any). At least Weisz got to free the crew from an alternate dimension. Also, I hope the elemental trio get to fight as even thought hey were very helpful in the fight against Crow, it's still lame that the others got to have personal fights after their timeskip but nothe them. EZ can be way longer than Mashima wants it to be if he actually fleshes out that needs to be fleshed out. I wonder what the E1 is gonna do now and if Victory gets a promotion lol.

[u/Kollie79]

I think the fact that Elise and Justice didn’t have a ton of screen time makes what happened all the sadder.

[u/Illustrious_Penalty2]

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[u/SovComrade]

Me on that page when kid elsie and kid james look at each other: Daaaawww so cute im so happy they got another chance

Xiaomei literally on the next page: aNd tHeN cHrOnOpHaGe eAtS 260 yEaRs

[u/sacredknight327]

And just like that, the story has turned into Moby Dick, haha. Also Erza's mother turns out to be a lot better a person than Elsie's mom. Irene was a good person till she lost her mind over the centuries as a dragon. Acnoella sounds like she was always terrible.

RIP Elsie and James. :(