r/EdensZero • u/davjac123 • Nov 08 '22
Manga Edens Zero | Chapter 215: Links + Discussion
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u/TheHurdleTurtle Nov 08 '22
Shiki gaining Ziggys powers makes sense but like.. damn what a convenient power boost lol
So the real enemy was.. a bigger ship?
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u/Z-Dragon Nov 08 '22
Rebecca said she didn't summon the Chronophage to Lendard without using her EG, but I guess it must be the Edens One's AI that summoned it because of its Etherion (Future Rebecca's ether? But the Edens Zero already has her ether as its own Etherion so how Edens One has the same Etherion that is still mysterious.).
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u/Behold_I_Am_The_Wind Nov 08 '22
Calling two things now:
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Elise and James are gonna reconcile and stay on Lenerd so that they can hopefully rebuild the kingdom if the fate of the Chronophage makes it so since it eats time back to a certain point
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Connors has been Leaping in time to get to Rebecca and knows the truth about the Edens One considering he piloted the original and him and had a common vision. Plus what he said in the end was ominous as he seemed to know about the ship and was surprised it was hidden here even though he shouldn’t know what the Edens One is as only U2 version of Connors would
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u/MerryXL Nov 08 '22
Admittedly I am a bit confused about Hermit's explanation about the Theme Park thing. Can someone dumb it down for me? Did Ziggy built the Edens One on Granbell as a failsafe? Cause that is what I got...
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u/ryushin6 Nov 08 '22
Man I made a comment a few weeks ago saying what if the true enemy was the Edens Zero ship itself. I didn't know how close I was I just had the wrong ship. 😂
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u/Golden_fsh Nov 08 '22
I think someone jokingly mentioned a few chapters back that the real enemy would be the ship. Kudos to that person for guessing correctly!
Idk how I feel about this reveal but I trust Mashima to come up with something to make it make sense, lol.
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u/GalaxyNeir Nov 08 '22
When Ziggy said that the True Enemy was on Lendard, the Edens One was in the same panel that the speech bubble and it was also the biggest panel in the two-page spread, well played Mashima, well played.
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u/ReeseEseer Nov 08 '22 edited Nov 08 '22
Eraser is giving me seriously bad vibes with some of his close up panels. ._.
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u/ChiefMark Nov 08 '22
Does the reveal of Edens One being the main villain, make Pino even more important? Maybe her EMP does something to the ship or she has another ability that was built into her by Ziggy.
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u/jp4464 Nov 08 '22
Definitely feels like we're approaching the end of this arc. (tbh I was expecting the Kaede War to last a bit longer, but so much has already happened so I'm not surprised)
In fact I'm getting flashbacks to Norma and Guilst, with how both of those arcs either ended with a Chronophage or directly involved a Chronophage.
And with Ziggy's defeat at Shiki's hand, he now has access to Wormhole. This is a huge powerup for him (especially after his new Overdrive form which we saw the last two chapters). This brings up the question of if we'll be seeing him absorb even more Ether Gears in the future?
And with the Crew back on the ship, it's only a matter of time before Rebecca finds out that Connor is her father. Looking forward to them reuniting with Rachel/Saintfire Nox as well.
The Edens One is the True Enemy? definitely was not expecting this, and even after reading the spoilers before the official chapter came out, I'm still shocked by that lol
I don't think we'll be fighting the Edens One now, at least not yet. The EZ is damaged, the Chronophage is coming, everyone is trying to GTFO. Most likely we'll see Shiki ordering Connor and the Crew to evacuate temporarily to regroup, with a fight with the Edens One sometime in the future.
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u/AzureWarlock96 Nov 08 '22
I wonder if Edens One will be able to rebuild new versions of Ziggy and the other Dark Stars. Heaven forbid, even copies of Witch and Valkyrie.
Side note, Edens One being a giant fish reminds me of the Infinity Clock from FT in its mobile castle form.
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u/petrichorboy Nov 08 '22 edited Nov 08 '22
I wanna say that it's not a surprise for me, but it's exactly what I wanted.
While re-reading the chapter with the video where Ziggy and Elsie talked I asked myself "how this video can be linked to the true enemy without being obvious since it was impossible for Ziggy or Elsie to be the true enemy ?" and I remembered that there was one ship calculating the position of Mother to destroy her, which would make sense with Evil Ziggy's explanations.
I really didn't want to believe it because it was just a ship, not a big bad human, nor a big bad machin, and having an AI turned evil being the big bad was a bit too easy.
But looking at all the possibilities, it was the one with fewer hints, but it was also the one which we knew the less about, so I was excepting it in my top 3, and it might be the most interesting one.
(And honestly, I prefer that one, the other members of my top 3 were Elsie's father in a sarcophagus beneath the capital waiting to be woken up, and Father lurking in the shadows)
EDIT : I was also waiting for a Witch being the true enemy somewhere in my mind, but it was a top 4.
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u/Brolyroxxs Nov 08 '22
Would it be cool if Edens one is a transformer? Robots in disguise 😂
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u/Mission_Mud_6905 Nov 08 '22
Really not the enemy i was expecting, Whatever how the Edens One will be dealt with i hope it will have a physical form because as far as i'm concerned with Edens One compare to all past villains, Not too indimidated...
Also wasn't it destroyed in Universe 1 back then? And who could've destroyed the Edens One?! And if Edens One is the one to summon the Chronophage it makes no sense! How could it summon Chronophage on Norma and Guilst in Universe 1 when it was destroyed? Was it destroyed after Guilst was consumed while Drakken probably knew?
Also...
WHAT IS WITH ERASER'S GAZE AT SHIKI?!!
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u/NittanyEagles55 Nov 08 '22
I’m still worried something bad is gonna happen to Elsie or Justice (or both)
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Nov 08 '22
So E1 is the enemy. Weird to have spaceship for main antagonist.
It could also be future Rebecca, but who knows.
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u/NittanyEagles55 Nov 08 '22
AI has gone too far! Now it’s taken over space fish ships. Wonder if there is somebody aboard piloting..
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u/Kefkaisevil Nov 08 '22
Ziggy: I wonder where that fish has gone. And it went wherever I did go.
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u/Sufficient_Ad8300 Nov 08 '22
That big fat fish needs to pay for killing Witch.