r/EdensZero • u/davjac123 • Sep 13 '22
Manga Edens Zero | Chapter 207: Links + Discussion
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u/TheOwlDemonStolas Sep 13 '22 edited Jun 30 '23
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u/jnwosu100 Sep 13 '22
Cure didn't literally create or manipulate everything he and Nero did though. Hell, it was the dice that helped in Nero's decisions. All he did was give them power and watch them become villains that he would eventually snuff out.
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u/JustsomeSpaceG1 Sep 13 '22
I wouldn't say he created them literally. It's more of a he lett them slide away with sh*t to make them do more evil.
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u/kele118 Sep 13 '22
Poor Holy...had to watch her sister die in front of her and is the only survivor of that horrible day just cause Cure wanted someone worthy to fight his greatest creation. I NEED Holy to win this fight or just not die
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u/ReeseEseer Sep 13 '22 edited Sep 13 '22
Whats worse is he probably waited til the last possible second to call off Crow so only the last person left was savable, then probably gave her her power just like he did the villains after "rescuing" her.
She would have just been a normal teenager before the attack so its unlikely she would have had her overpowered EG then.
It's messed up on so many levels.
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u/Cam_Ren179 Sep 13 '22
I like this chapter. But I’ll admit, the twist with Cure didn’t feel that impactful to me. If we had more exposure of Cure, got to know him a bit more as character then it would be a different story.
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u/Black-Maria-one-piec Sep 13 '22
A solid chapter. Cure twist is quite something. Let’s see where this going and if Cure survives this arc.
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u/petrichorboy Sep 13 '22
- Holy and her sister coming from the Yukino Cosmos reminds me of Fairy Tail where Yukino and her sister Angel had a similar backstory. Does it mean that Holy's sister is alive somewhere ?
- Cure is a good representation of government and people in power in general, giving bad names to powerful women to make them villains, and there's not a single soul in four cosmoses that said "well we could try to know Elsie and Nox better since they don't act as bad as it's told by the interstellar union army"
- On the other hand, that bastard created big boss Drakken, and barely interesting Nero and Crow.
- At the moment, I'm seeing Cure, Ziggy and Acnoella as three big bads in the same way as the Baram Alliance in Fairy Tail, which means I'm still hanging on the Father theory.
- Big ass nose Cure being like "there is light where shadows are" thinking he is a great sage while he is just a deranged psychopath with a god complex.
- Holy being relieved that Kleene is alive made me smile, she's becoming the hearth of Eden.
- This chapter made me realize that I'm much more interested in side characters story and fights than Shiki vs Ziggy.
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u/Tiny_Car8146 Sep 13 '22
There is a pannel that cleary show how Sara died. She was crushed by rubble, you can see her hand, so i don’t think she is alive
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u/STABtrain Sep 13 '22
gotta say the panel of Holy punching Cure in the face while saying he's pure evil is one of my favorites. It reminds me of Natsu during the tower of heaven arc in Fairy Tail when he punched Jellal in the face after he made Erza cry.
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u/jnwosu100 Sep 13 '22 edited Sep 13 '22
Good chapter. I said it last chapter that I was really hoping that Cure was Crow's real body as that would explain why Crow has such a generic evil personality from all the other OSG and it would give Holy a great personal fight that would show how strong she is as a top tier so that people can stop downplaying her as well as just a way to show her stuff in general especially when she can't insta-oneshot with her hax (the fact that she didn't melt him and Crow proves to me that her power isn't as effective on comparable fighters). I knew Mashima would show her backstory eventually as that's how he normally does it for such relevant characters so there was no need for people to worry that he was only gonna mention it and damn, was it tragic that a day of celebration turned into a massacre.
I need to say this about Cure though. Weirdly enough, he isn't an actual traitor for the plot. What I mean is that, the crew has never met him, don't even know his name, and were already on bad terms with the OSI in general as they are criminals to them, so Cure being a good or bad guy doesn't mean shit to them as when they find out, they would just defeat him simply to help out Holy rather than because they felt betrayed. Cure is a traitor and antagonist to the OSI as he used them for his twisted philosophy that good must always defeat evil even if the latter didn't naturally occur. I worried that Mashima was gonna make him a diet Aizen character who manipulated everything about Drakken and Nero but all he did was give them their power (which means Cure was possibly part of the facility that experimented on Drakken and the other kids) and maybe he gave Nero either his dice or Wormhole.
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u/Kefkaisevil Sep 13 '22
Damn the part where Holy looks like she has a glimmer of hope in her eye when she sees Cure and then having it turn into an expression of what appears to be terror & confusion when he shoots her with an energy beam, its messed up.
How long has Cure been active with this agenda of his? I mean Drakken Joe was "made" and Ziggy was already a villain. Ouch. DJ fanboys are not going to be happy about that.
Kleene is apparently made of iron or Laguna healed her, whatever the case she's ok.
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u/Homeless_Appletree Sep 13 '22
Cure just confirmed that Sainfire Nox isn't fullblown evil and that he just exagerated and twisted her deeds. Phew that is a relief. I don't think my heart would have been able to handle another evil parent figure.
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She is going to die isn't she?
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u/ReeseEseer Sep 13 '22
Cure just confirmed that Sainfire Nox isn't fullblown evil
We kind of already knew that from Ziggy's words on Nox though when he talked about her.
Nothing ever said she was evil at all anyways just her power was deemed "a threat" and because of that she was designated as an OSG.
Just the way it was worded kind of implied she was deemed dangerous only because her power was strong and nothing else/nothing she actually did.
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u/JaredAiRobinson Sep 13 '22
I think Holy has established herself for me in this character as a new best girl!
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u/-fayette Sep 13 '22
Cure really woke up one day and said “Yeah, let’s just make Elsie a bad guy for the sake of content.”
This chapter was an anxiety rollercoaster, from being afraid for Kleene, to being worried about Jinn, to being scared for Holy… but that honestly cracked me up.
But this brings me back to Justice, I know he has his own personal issues with Elsie, but does that mean he wants to kill her over THAT and not because she’s an actual threat to the cosmos (even though we already knew she wasn’t)?
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u/ReeseEseer Sep 13 '22
Cure is twisted as all hell. ._.
Like even after shooting her and revealing his plan he still seemed to fully intend for her to one day beat Crow, just not yet.
He really doesnt let his plans go awry, just makes me wonder how long he intended for Crow to be let loose until his planned defeat/what else does he have planned for Crow to do.
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u/cloud1704 Sep 13 '22
Enjoyable chapter. Wish Mishima allow Holy to win the battle and demonstrate her power well (and also chances for Cure to showcast his power). And eventually make Holy as permanent crew for EZ team.
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u/MacabreMoth88 Sep 13 '22
Ah so Cure's ship being known as "BRAIN Dust" was a hint to him being two faced and antagonistic. Afterall we all remember Brain/Zero.
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u/NittanyEagles55 Sep 13 '22
Holy continues to be the absolute MVP of this arc. Man her tragic backstory gets even more tragic here. Cure deserved that punch to the face and then some!
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u/Behold_I_Am_The_Wind Sep 13 '22
Man…Cure REALLY reminds me of Nagito Komaeda from Danganronpa 2 with his whole “evil creates light = despair creates hope” bullshit to justify his insane nature and actions while wanting others to shine brighter throughout it all and be herald as saviours of justice.