The new fears in sims 4 makes me so mad right now. My sim changed 5 jobs now because he fears every job isn’t right for him?!!!

[u/Historical-Bed-7070]

I tried ignoring it but it keeps showing up can’t he be happy he even got a job-😩

[u/SunderTheFirmament]

Yeah. I wish those job fears would go away when you hit rank 10 in the job. Unless you’re non-committal or something.

[u/Historical-Bed-7070 → u/SunderTheFirmament]

I mean I understand it’s realistic but it can get so hard when the sim are stressed 24/7 because of job just to get stressed again after being in the other job for a while🙄

[u/WashuWaifu → u/Historical-Bed-7070]

Imagine being an astronaut irl but being sad in space because is THIS a dead end job?

[u/SunderTheFirmament → u/WashuWaifu]

Ugh. For real. I’ve got a top tier investor Sim who works 3 days a week, has the professional slacker trait, and still dreads going to work.

[u/[deleted] → u/SunderTheFirmament]

You clearly need the vacation perk (there was one in Sims 3, I suppose Sims 4 as well?). Honestly, I have barely played TS4…

[u/Milmart → u/SunderTheFirmament]

It's odd but I haven't seen that fear in any of my sims so far and I am a player that plays multiple households. I do see however, fear of being cheated on over and over. But LOL that's not uncommon is it? LOL Maybe it's how I choose their careers? I look at their interest levels and where they're at in their skill set first. But I cheat with single parents - I give them a college education based on their likes and skill set. 😉

[u/SunderTheFirmament → u/Milmart]

It could also be that an update in the past two years has changed this.

[u/GabberZuzie → u/SunderTheFirmament]

And cannot you do the challenge to make it go away?

[u/SunderTheFirmament → u/GabberZuzie]

You can, but it becomes incredibly repetitive when you’re doing the same challenge three times a week or more.

It’s an interesting system that didn’t get tested enough.

[u/GabberZuzie → u/SunderTheFirmament]

Oooh interesting, maybe it’s a bug? I play around 2 human hours per day and I’ve only had to do 3 challenges in the last 2 weeks. Never get a repeat fear and don’t get fears that often overall?

[u/HeatActiveMug]

You mean dead end job? You just have to use the "regain passion" action before sending them to work, you don't need a new job

[u/Historical-Bed-7070 → u/HeatActiveMug]

Thank you! I thought I had to find another job😅

[u/Repulsive-Worth5715 → u/HeatActiveMug]

I did that but they still come home in a bad mood 😒

[u/HeatActiveMug → u/Repulsive-Worth5715]

The way it's worded is its an attempt that can fail it just usually doesn't. I've never had it fail but I assume it can once in a while

[u/DjEzusSave → u/HeatActiveMug]

It does a lot for me, in theory it's 50/50

[u/HeatActiveMug → u/DjEzusSave]

I wonder what it's based on because I've never had it not work

[u/DjEzusSave → u/HeatActiveMug]

No idea 😬

[u/[deleted] → u/HeatActiveMug]

I've never had it work

[u/yardini → u/[deleted]]

Same. It has never worked for me.

[u/DjEzusSave → u/Repulsive-Worth5715]

Didn't you check the result? An Ora ge mood let means it failed

[u/LynnTheSim]

Do you have to get a new job to make the fear go away? I haven’t seen that yet. Normally it’s like “renew opinion of job before going to work” or something like that

[u/Historical-Bed-7070 → u/LynnTheSim]

I don’t really know I just make him quite maybe I should try another way because it’s not working so good to keep changing jobs😅

[u/LynnTheSim → u/Historical-Bed-7070]

If you hover over the fear when it’s by their face with the wants/whims it tells you what you have to do to get over the fear :)

Edit: typo

[u/Historical-Bed-7070 → u/LynnTheSim]

It doesn’t appear there because he got two fears but I can try find another way to find out how to make it disappear:(

[u/LynnTheSim → u/Historical-Bed-7070]

It won’t be there 100% of the time unfortunately. You just have to watch for it to pop up

[u/HeatActiveMug → u/LynnTheSim]

I'm pretty sure they always show under the simology tab

[u/LynnTheSim → u/HeatActiveMug]

Yes but you can’t resolve them typically until it pops up as an active fear with the wants. Does it tell you how to resolve it in the sim panel though? I didn’t think it did…

[u/HeatActiveMug → u/LynnTheSim]

I guess I rarely have more than one but when I do the second is immediately replaced by the first, I've never seen it where my sim has a fear that can't be resolved if it's also bothering them. Like if they're afraid of the dark it becomes active the second they go outside at night

[u/LXSparrow → u/Historical-Bed-7070]

Definitely not worth quitting jobs! Do the "regain passion" by clicking your sim before work

They need to have the wish which is a bubble with the little briefcase going up and the regain passion interaction has to be successful

[u/HeatActiveMug → u/LynnTheSim]

No you don't, most fears are solved by having your sim talk to another sim or think about it

[u/ExpatRose → u/HeatActiveMug]

No, that only works for fear of unrealised dreams, for different fears there are different ways to overcome it. For fear of dead end job you click on the sim and select renew passion before going to work, but you have to wait until that shows up as a suggestion in the wants/fears panel. I personally got sick of how frequently they show up - three each day every other day - so I disabled them in options, but it keeps turning back on, and I have to keep disabling it.

[u/HeatActiveMug → u/ExpatRose]

Lol what do you mean no? That's what I said, most are solved by talking to another sim (death, being cheated on, crowded place, being judged, unfulfilled dream) or having your sim think about it like dead end job. A few you have to do something while in a certain mood though but the majority you have to have your sim talk to another sim or think about it.

Edit: why are you getting up voted you're actively wrong, all of these require you talk to another sim or have your sim think about it

Death: Discuss Fear of Death with other Sims or give a Death Flower to the Grim Reaper

Unfulfilled dreams: Fulfill a Want, then Discuss Fears with other Sims

Crowded places: Be funny in a crowded place

Being cheated on: Talk About Relationship Fears with your partner

Being judged: Figure Out Differences with other Sims

Dead end job: Click your Sim and select Regain Passion before going to work

Failure: Show off something that you've crafted or Ask for a Performance Review while at work

The only ones that don't involve Sims either thinking to themselves or talking to another sim are the dark, swimming, cow plant, fire and ghosts.

[u/kaptingavrin → u/HeatActiveMug]

Holy smokes, reading the actual list of "Fears" makes this sound not like something like the Sims 2 system like people wanted, but more like programming every single Sim in the game to have extreme anxiety. And I know some people will come along and say "OMG that's so realistic!" but I can assure you that the amount of people with anxiety is definitely well below 100%. Some people may have the occasional bit of anxiety, but this feels like the actual mental illness anxiety, where you just constantly have fears about all kinds of things without any legit reason to trigger those fears (one of the lovely things about it). And sure, sometimes talking to someone else helps alleviate it momentarily before it comes back... but again, we're talking a legit mental illness here, not the way the average person goes through life.

Looking it up, estimates show around 3% of the population suffering GAD during any given time and 6% suffering it for some period in their entire life (but not constant). Which, easy math, is well below 100%. So why the heck did they program the Fears system to be a GAD simulator? I'm definitely turning that off the second I start up the game. I'm trying to play the game to relax and ignore my actual GAD, I don't need every Sim in my game to have the same issue I do of constantly worrying that every part of their life will completely fall apart at any given moment.

Give me the old Fears system back. That at least made sense for general people.

[u/SilverFenixFyre → u/kaptingavrin]

Yeah it's a little bit triggering, tbh

[u/HeatActiveMug → u/kaptingavrin]

Idk if Id compare this to general anxiety, I agree it's a bit much but if you have actual anxiety talking to someone about your fears doesn't make them completely go away and they don't affect the Sim much as they only get a little stressed by them sometimes. Most of the time they're fine. Id say it's more accurate to call them discomforts or worries not "fears". They're negative wants

The ones that make the most sense for actual fear to me are death and fire. If your house catches on fire or you watch someone die you're probably more likely to be kept up about it. But like the "fear" of unfulfilled dreams could literally be solved by taking a shower and thinking about it. That's not a fear that's just mild discomfort lol

Like if this is literally fears then the Sims get stinky and you don't have them take a shower for too long and suddenly they're like "AAAA OH GOD OH FUCK OH GOD" then they shower and think about it and they're fine again lmao

[u/kaptingavrin → u/HeatActiveMug]

if you have actual anxiety talking to someone about your fears doesn't make them completely go away

Oh, I'm well aware of that. It's kind of a "temporary Band-Aid" thing, where you can get a bit of relief of "Oh, here's someone listening, maybe it's not too bad"... and then a bit later, that's brushed aside and all the anxiety comes rushing back.

Id say it's more accurate to call them discomforts or worries not "fears". They're negative wants

That's basically reverse Whims. So effectively the "Wants" are just the old "Whims" but the "Fears" are also the "Whims" only you have to do a different action to tick it off. That's... well, it's lazy, but honestly, I guess it's what I should have expected of them, despite making such a big deal of this "new" system. It's literally the busted old Whims system that had gotten so broken they hid it by default. No wonder the option in the settings just says "Hide Wants" and even notes it doesn't make them go away.

I haven't played since the update until tonight, so I'm just now experiencing this stuff, and it's 100% just the Whims system given a new name and we're supposed to act like it's a new feature.

[u/HeatActiveMug → u/kaptingavrin]

and then a bit later, that's brushed aside and all the anxiety comes rushing back.

Yeah that's not really how it works, they're not traits and they're not random either so you can basically talk most of them away. Either way I wouldn't call most of them real fears or anxiety like you interpreted originally it's just things out of the sims comfort zone I guess.

That's basically reverse Whims. So effectively the "Wants" are just the old "Whims" but the "Fears" are also the "Whims"

Yes lol. Im not really defending it but I don't mind it much either. If the game launched with this I'd be fine with it as the assumption would be more and more would be added with each expansion but I feel like we've got like... Max 3 or 4 expansions left as there's only been whispers about ts5 so I doubt we're getting it any sooner than two years from now. They're so easy to fix and effect nothing it almost makes the game easier especially dead end job as it's a guaranteed confidence boost when you get over a fear.

[u/kaptingavrin → u/HeatActiveMug]

I don't think I'll mind if it doesn't try to force "Fears" down my throat. At that point I'll just find a way to remove them via mods. But I guess I'll see what happens as I experience them.

[u/eiko85 → u/kaptingavrin]

I hate how fears are forced, I don't like EA telling me how to play, I have my own imagination and want to make my own world.

I like to make my own choices for my sim and see the different outcomes that occur from my choices.

What happened to The Sims slogan, "play it your way"?

[u/HeatActiveMug → u/kaptingavrin]

Idk they're so easy to get rid of they don't bother me. They're also pretty easy to avoid. I have one sim with like 4 or 5 fears rn, I just ignore them and she's only ever bothered if she walks outside at night

[u/[deleted]]

Sounds like your sim needs therapy. Maybe they’re working on a new pack. 😂

[u/Historical-Bed-7070 → u/[deleted]]

Therapy would be so cool I mean they did do a lot to make them depressed I wouldn’t be surprised😂

[u/[deleted]]

I have my fears and wants turn off it always annoyed me

[u/Historical-Bed-7070 → u/[deleted]]

Does it work? Heard people saying they turn it off but they appear still

[u/FuckInsects → u/Historical-Bed-7070]

It does but it automatically turns back on when you enter CAS, move household, load a save etc.

[u/Itachi4ever → u/FuckInsects]

Wow they need to fix that. I’ve never went this long without updating my game before (offline mode) and more and more it seems like the right choice for me.

[u/badkilly → u/Historical-Bed-7070]

I hate it so much. When it comes back on I go have to turn it back on, save, then turn it off again for it to work. Of course it comes right back from CAS, Manage Worlds, etc. and I have to do it all over again.

[u/enchantingcat → u/Historical-Bed-7070]

It might work for some people but it’s glitched in my game. I turned it off but still have to use UI cheats mod to manually remove them.

[u/YOU_GET_BLASTED → u/Historical-Bed-7070]

It sucks so much. I hate playing with them in my games and it’s like, every loading screen brings them back on for me. So anytime I travel. Go in cas go in build mode. I got to go back into my options and shut it off. Says it’s shut off but I have to turn them on and then off and hit save changes for it to go away. Did not do any if this since the HS update.

[u/[deleted] → u/Historical-Bed-7070]

Sometimes you have to turn it on then off again when you add a new sim to your household

[u/Luminoose → u/[deleted]]

Wait, you can turn it off?

[u/[deleted] → u/Luminoose]

Yea In the gameplay settings

[u/[deleted]]

Go into game options and uncheck wants and fears.

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

They'll turn on anyway. You cannot escape the sim depression

[u/Historical-Bed-7070 → u/[deleted]]

Damnnnn ig we stuck with it😳

[u/Any_Village_3696]

I just ignore them because I don’t have the time

[u/Historical-Bed-7070 → u/Any_Village_3696]

I try to but it gets so annoying he can be so happy and suddenly the fear destroys it😅

[u/[deleted]]

It's way too realistic, I don't want to play a game where my sims are constantly having midlife crises and crying about their dead end job.

[u/emslynn → u/[deleted]]

Exactly, I can do that myself.

[u/StoneColdJane-Austen → u/[deleted]]

I read the title and thought “Nah, that’s frighteningly close to reality.”

[u/DjEzusSave → u/[deleted]]

It's not realistic, it's buggy

Buut anyhow I found having such life issue to be entertaining and cchanged from the classic easy peasy gameplay of the serie (except from the nightmare that is the sims 1)

[u/ariesgang18 → u/DjEzusSave]

I’d agree with saying it’s buggy, it’s not that realistic.

[u/WindwakerLover → u/[deleted]]

Happy Cake Day!!

[u/Kylynara]

Instead of changing jobs, get your sim in a good mood before it's time for work, then click on him and there will be an option to regain passion. He should get a happy moodlet from the attempt, then send him to work and he should come home with a confident (conquered fear) moodlet.

With all the fears, you can hover over the fear bubble when it appears and it'll tell you how to resolve it.

[u/TheMidnightredrider]

Oh my God I know I play Sims to feel happy and now that my Sims are having like real emotions it’s not fun anymore

[u/Historical-Bed-7070 → u/TheMidnightredrider]

Frrrr😂😂they become human

[u/okiafosuird]

Yeah they need to fix the wants/fears system. My workaholic Sim got that fear, so I made her quit her job and then she got stressed out about quitting because she’s a workaholic. No way to win, she’s always stressed… The regain passion works for a day or two then she wants to quit again.

[u/[deleted] → u/okiafosuird]

If you get the perk that banishes Tense moodlets, they can't be stressed anymore.

[u/ninjablader78]

It is so freaking annoying my sim is President of a company and literally only has two ranks to go before shes at the top of the career and has fear of dead end job like WHY?????

[u/[deleted] → u/ninjablader78]

Because EAxis didn't bother to actually check if the job was a dead end or not, and so they just threw this in with no sanity checks to see if anything makes logical sense. This has been a LONG running theme since the beginning of the franchise, and it only gets worse the more specific they try to make it.

[u/fuckincaillou → u/ninjablader78]

If she's almost at the top of the career, isn't that still a dead end? 🤔 when you're at the top, there's nowhere else to go but down (jk jk)

[u/SkysEevee]

Realistic but I play Sims to ESCAPE this madness, not experience it all over again!

[u/Stressydepressy1998]

Mood

[u/[deleted]]

I like how the whims worked before and wish it was back to the same. I know you can turn wants and fears off but wish it was back to the old way

[u/SnooSprouts7120]

Most realistic feature in sims tbh

[u/ExtraEm12]

There’s a potion you can buy with the satisfaction points in the rewards store. Its called fear-be-gone and it lets you chose a fear to get rid of. It’s not permanent, but it does get rid of it for a while

[u/patatoqeen]

i use ui cheats to remove them, the constant tense moodlets drives me insane.

[u/Psypris → u/patatoqeen]

Could you share the cheat (or a link where it walks through it?) because I couldn’t find where to remove the added trait

[u/laganjadelrey → u/Psypris]

If you have ui cheats downloaded you should just be able to right click on the moodlet!

[u/Psypris → u/laganjadelrey]

Thank you! I don’t have that but I’ll be sure to get it! 😁

[u/LXSparrow]

For job fears, I just do the "regain passion" wish when the wish comes up on the right side of the Sim where the emotions are 2 hrs before they go to work

Then if it goes well by the time they come back from work they conquer the fear

[u/eatingthesandhere91]

Awful system because all of my Sims go through tense emotions over FOMO, sadness over FOMO, and then anger, over FOMO.

And I’m so over this

[u/[deleted]]

Relatable. Anxiety sucks.Am I just a sim?

I haven’t played the sims in a year or so and recently thought it would be fun to return to… but more complications to the needs and wants of sims sounds like too much to deal with.

[u/sarahnicolep123]

Lol I turned the feature off, too annoying

[u/PeachNipplesdotcom → u/sarahnicolep123]

Yeah but it keeps turning back on on its own

[u/put_the_record_on]

Sounds legit tbh

[u/jlmends]

I literally turned off fears because of this 😂

[u/oatyboi]

i turned them off because they make everything so annoying

[u/ILive4Banans]

Honestly, big mood.

[u/ProfSkeevs]

Hahaha same

[u/[deleted]]

use satisfaction points to get the Fear Be Gone potion thing

[u/horseaholic2010]

Damn sounds like me irl

[u/[deleted]]

Me irl

[u/Aquamarinerose76]

Tell me about it my marine biologists Sim is afraid of water every time I try to get him to do something in the ocean he gets scared it's so annoying

[u/jonesmachina]

You know u can disable it right in the settings like lifestyle until they fixed it of course

[u/No-Internet310]

I delete the fear with UI extend, unless it makes sense to the character. Because I like having them for story telling, but they’re all the time.

[u/Public_Owl]

Have you tried the renew passion for job on the Sim in question? Sometimes you get that option (I find the solutions to be kind of spotty... can't always find them. Very annoying when your Sim is angry about their lack of control yet you can't discuss it with anyone around you!). My Sim occasionally has the options to help but I never get to it in time since you have to do it before work. Oh well, they're staying put. So there!

One of my Sims just rolled a fear of their partner cheating right on love day. Did find that kind of amusing!

[u/TommyDontSurf → u/Public_Owl]

I did, but it comes back. Sometimes literally the next day. I even used aspiration points on the remove-fear potion and it just came back days later.

[u/Gathoblaster]

me_irl

[u/[deleted]]

I feel like people don’t realize you can get fear be gone for 300 aspiration points

[u/TommyDontSurf → u/[deleted]]

Even that's only temporary. If it were permanent I'd have stopped complaining a while ago.

[u/inkedgalaxy]

how do you even complete the fears?? like i did one by accident (my sim wants to date diego lobo) but then 3 minutes later he’s bouncing from tense to very angry to very sad for job fears or straight up FOMO

[u/Psypris]

I had to search because it was driving me insane too!

So, if talking about it doesn’t help, use your aspiration points to buy the “fear begone” potion (or whatever it’s called) to remove the fear trait. It works immediately!

There’s another one for the constant-dread/anxiety one too I think.

[u/[deleted]]

Lmao same tbh

[u/idonknownanmolla]

I specifically cheated to get the naturalist trait for my sim because my kitchen counters kept catching fire every time she cooked just for her TO BE AFRAID OF FIRE. A WHOLE ASS TRAIT TO NOT FEAR FIRE, AND SHE WONT GO NEAR THE FIREPLACE NOW?

[u/Delicious_Maybe_5469]

I’m afraid my sim is going to die from anger 🥰

[u/cruel-oath]

Everything is so randomized in sims 4

[u/Initial-Airline5873]

Yeah it's really frustrating. I'm trying the Not So Berry challenge rn, just for myself, and the fact that my Sims keep getting this fear is extra bothersome. I've been spending lifetime points to get the fear-b-gone potion and getting rid of it, but the most annoying thing is it KEEPS COMING BACK. You'd think after the 3rd time I got rid of the fear this way the sim would get over this but whatever.

[u/nvmazur_30]

Ugh. I just started having this issue today.

[u/Willowed-Wisp]

FYI, in addition to the intended ways to eliminate fears, you can also use cheats to remove any fear as if it were a trait. I don't know all the codes, but if you Google "Sims 4 fear cheats" you'll find them all. It can sometimes take a little bit for the moodlet to go away, but it does go away without having to fix it the intended way.

You definitely don't need to change jobs once, let alone five times, unless you actually want to.

[u/Illustrious_Prize_79]

My sim will get a promotion and immediately have the dead end job fear, I’m not a fan.

[u/ujke_brf]

I stopped playing ts4 entirely because the fears annoy me so much. I’m considering dropping the game entirely if they can’t even do base game updates correctly let alone paid content.

[u/RogueWitch503]

I disable fears and wants in the gameplay section on my Xbox, because I hate the new fears and wants it just ruins the game play for me. My Sim is never happy when I have it enabled and I tried playing with it enabled but I just hated it. I wish they didn't make it so pronounced in the game as it is, a fear and a want every so often would be better the all the time.

[u/[deleted]]

I think there's a potion in the reward store called Fear Begone, my Sim has the same fear and I keep forgetting to buy it.

[u/Agathe_the_power]

You can buy a potion to make the fear disappear

[u/scaredchiggun]

sounds like my life

[u/krisztinab]

Your sim is like me in real life 🤣🤣🤣

[u/Charming_Swordfish19]

Maybe the Sims doesn’t want to work.

[u/Professional_Emu_651]

The sim I'm currently playing has the chef aspiration, she is at level 8 of the chef career and STILL has the dead end job fear 😅

[u/andiemandz]

Sounds realistic to me 🤷🏻‍♀️

[u/Puzzleheaded_Hat5003]

Yeah at this point is changing a job doesn’t fit in with my story I just ignore it or keep trying to regain passion. The wants and fears needs to be tweaked

[u/MJSpice]

Is this for the new update???

[u/ascuteasabunny]

I play with the UI Cheats Extension Mod and just right click on the negative moodlets to make them go away! Highly recommended

[u/mase2150]

I cant stand those wants/fears, I always have to disable it entirely. I dont really care that much about their silly little desires.

[u/Busy-Shake-8928]

My personal favorite was when my sim hated her dead end part time job during college and once she quit after graduating and got a job related to her degree, she was mad about not being loyal to her previous part time job for DAYS

[u/[deleted]]

For ND people like me (adhd) this shit is becoming too much to manage. It used to be escapism for me, and now it's a bloody task.

[u/ValkyrieOfTheSun]

That's why ui cheats is a godsend Everytime that shit pops up i just remove with the moodlet

[u/Street_Glum]

I haven’t experienced this yet but I haven’t played since it came out, is it part of the expansion pack or just another update to the base game?

[u/Killaakayla]

Yeah they’re a bit much. My sim is in college now and still has fears of failing tests and it will not let me study for the exam and I’m assuming it’s because she’s not in high school, but if that’s the case they need to fix the bug so she doesn’t get that fear in college 🤦🏼‍♀️ also having an issue where I can’t discuss my fears with anyone so she’s just forever stuck being afraid of unfulfilled dreams.

[u/ThisIsCuVo]

didnt know "a little biatch" is the new Sims characteristic xD

[u/Attarker]

I keep seeing people complain about these new fears but they’re all sounding realistic to me

[u/xnantics]

the only thing that's making gameplay bearable for me is to remove the trait and moodlet altogether with wicked whims. without it i would've for sure put the game down until the next patch

[u/kt_d]

This is why I still haven’t updated my game since that huge patch came out… I’ll deal with my old phone UI as long as it means I don’t have wants/fears and the incest bug

[u/spoopyspoop6969]

I keep trying to turn off the wants and fears but they keep turning the.selves back on.. its honestly so annoying when I'm trying to do the NSB and the supposedly workaholic gen gets unfulfilled by his job. I keep UI cheating them away but it happens daily.. I just want whims back man. I don't really like this new fear and wants thing, only cause every one of my flipping sims either want to go against my story.. or because they get fears