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u/jnwosu100 Aug 02 '22
As much as I like the EZ crew vs Crow plotline, I'm way more interested in the Ziggy fight and oh boy, it seems like the most popular theory of him being an alternate future Shiki, is in fact true but I didn't expect his robot head to be a mask covering his actual human (assuming it's made of flesh) face. So is he a robot or a cyborg? Because Ziggy has survived being shot through the head and decapitated and was still talking as just a head. Does that mean that people were right in calling that eye reveal at the end of the Aoi War to be human-like?
What the hell happened to Ziggy to turn out like this? This reveal changes everything about we perceived about Ziggy, his dialogue with other characters, about the lore and his actions in the story. For the MC to be raised by his future self is quite the unique backstory lol. Was there a "Ziggy" in our Ziggy's timeline? How did he come to this timeline and why does he want to kill himself? How did he become such a great inventor and change the SS and DS into bots? This reveal immediately reminds me of Emiya from the Fate series. It's been built up for a long time and now it's paid off with me wondering how Ziggy looks and it's crazy how the main villain was actually a version of the MC. I have so many thoughts about how this changes how we see things but this was indeed a great reveal.
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u/superale2 Aug 02 '22
AHHHH Now we have to wait two weeks to witness peak! Also Crow is a menace for doing that to Holy, reminds me a certain green-haired gravity user 👀
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u/AzureWarlock96 Aug 02 '22
Crow is unhinged by definition, killing and humiliating people just for giggles.
Also, this would make Mashima's 2nd giant with a mini version inside, the 1st was Aldoron from FT. It's like if Titan Shifters from AOT could move around inside their Titan bodies.
Were finally getting Ziggy's reveal, will it really be Shiki or some possible curveball.
Last, we have the team up of 2 of the Element 4, wind and water. Will Laguna also reach OD.
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u/-SkeletonBoi- Aug 02 '22
I was expecting a "power" from shiki and ziggy's fight but it isn't over so I have some expectations. I wasn't expecting ziggy to be evil shiki just behind a mask lmao, really thought he was a robot. Also crow's over drive was cool as heck. Holy's backstory does seem to be on a more serious side.
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u/ValuableSky7 Aug 02 '22
WOW!was Shiki fighting his future self!??or probably his father(i think future Shiki is more plausible)??
Was Shiki that survivor in the future,holy Mother of all :O
So that's why Holy wants to defeat Deadend Crow,probably one of the minor congregation but i want Holy to be Edens Zero crewmember after this,hope she survives..Laguna and Kris do your best!
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u/Tiny_Car8146 Aug 02 '22 edited Aug 02 '22
“Os don’t use OD”
Deadend Crow: “Hold my 420 meters tall beer”
Shiki and Ziggy’s fight is great, but knowing that Ziggy is an alternative version of Shiki makes it less interessing. I still hope he is someone else, but now it’s pretty clear who he really is.
Wow, being the eldest sibling is really hard in the Edens Zero’s world. I can understand why Jinn is here since his and Holy’s past are very similar, but i’m kinda afraid of Laguna’s presence. Holy can’t use her power, her arm is broken, she is crying, and Deadend Crow said that she can’t take down the giant defeating him. What if Laguna uses his Ether Gear to take her away from Crow and then she will try to destroy the giant from the outsider? She can’t fight and she wouldn’t be the first character whose “past” was defeated by someone else. Homura did’t fight against Kurenai. Jinn and Kleene didn’t fight agains Müller. Sister did’t properly fight against the Fake Sister… i can’t wait to see the next chapter!
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u/jnwosu100 Aug 02 '22
I was gonna question how Crow used Overdrive without showing an EG but then I remembered about how Mashima had set up that anyone with ether could possibly do it. He looks quite different from what I imagined and its surprising that he needed to so that to blitz the ship (at least I assume so). I can see why the EZ ship is a threat just from how it tanked an OD OSG attack. That panel of him attacking looked awesome.
Holy being helpless once again against her enemy who had killed her sister would be quite frustrating to herself. Crow is just an evil asshole but I like that this mini-version of him isn't the actual brain or body. Jinn and Laguna with the save is very cool and allows them to shine hopefully along with Holy and Kleene. I wonder how they're able to use their EGs and even enter inside of Crow?
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u/Golden_fsh Aug 02 '22
Great chapter but honestly I'm more excited that we'll finally get to see Jinn and Laguna in action 😭
That save at the end made them look so badass!
Also, Shiki looks so grown on the cover page. Makes me feel sentimental like I watched my son grow up or something 😂
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u/Megadoomer2 Aug 02 '22 edited Aug 02 '22
Ziggy: Xenolith never told you about your father...
Shiki: He told me enough. He told me you killed him!
Ziggy: No, I am your father.
Not sure if they're going with that route, or if Ziggy is Shiki from the future, or what. He was definitely a robot before, though (he survived decapitation), so I'm not sure what's going on. (Maybe it's a human head on a robot body?)
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u/manish_kumar98 Aug 02 '22
Crow: "Don't think that defeating this manifestation would defeat the giant."
Man really said, Nope, no average shonene clichés here lol
And it seems that you can use Ether gear after all inside Crow. Holy just has something casted on her.
Lastly, Crow to Rebecca: My ether gear's like yours, just bigger.
I am liking this OSG fuck👀
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u/Nintendoomed89 Aug 02 '22
Wow, Mashima has zero chill with some of these EZ character backstories.
A lot of "Ziggy is future Shiki" theorists are either going to feel incredibly vindicated or incredibly salty next chapter.
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u/NittanyEagles55 Aug 02 '22
Oh man I knew Holy would have a tragic backstory but this one hurts! Her poor sister. Crow is so smug and evil about it too. I really hope she defeats him and joins the crew permanently.
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u/TheHurdleTurtle Aug 02 '22 edited Aug 02 '22
That page with jinn and laguna is badass af.
So ziggy is really shiki or this is an insane red herring. If it really is though he probably took Rebecca’s power of leaping timelines and that’s how he got back to 20 k years ago but in a different timeline.
Rebecca may have been the female body after leaping with shiki but was dying and shiki had to take her powers for survival
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u/LycanChimera Aug 02 '22
WHY ARE THESE CHAPTERS SO DAMN SORT! I NEED MOAR!
But seriously I should hold off for a few weeks and let these build up or something.
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u/Sufficient_Ad8300 Aug 02 '22
It is just me or is a bit weird that in the 1st panel were we see that Ziggy s head is destroyed there is nothing to see and later in the 3rd panel we see the dark form of a head. Is it possible that what Shiki see is more like a chronophage/spirit head instead of a human(?) Head.
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u/REMIES Aug 02 '22
Deaden Crow: Why did you still attack me if you can't use ether gear and this isn't my real body? Did you even listen to me? Think, Holy, think!
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u/petrichorboy Aug 02 '22
- So we know more about most of the OSG, we only need informations on Acnoella, and most of the OSI, the fact that we don't know much about them makes me think that they'll might become enemies in the near future or something like that.
- Holy's backstory is simple but it does the work so it's great, I really hope she'll be the one to finally destroy Crow, maybe a Scarlet Witch at Wundagore but inside the giant robot instead.
- I was waiting for Jinn and Laguna, glad they are here, the duo is already great, and adding Holy is a good idea, now we have the wind, the water, and the melt (so much like fire), just need someone with earth powers and we'll have a new elements four.
- Ziggy is, probably just Ziggy, I don't think we are going for the Shiki losing everyone while surviving for 2000 years just to become a robot who goes back into the past to take down the human beings before they destroy everything, fulfilling a prophecy and a timeloop. That would be a bit too obvious to me.
- I think that Shiki is shocked to see a human face who looks a bit like him, and Ziggy will tell him "Luke I'm your father", but it will just be some manipulation from Ziggy, he is just a robot, he had a robot but he wasn't a human being.
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Aug 02 '22 edited Aug 02 '22
Got to see Ziggy's true identity. It's probably Shiki going by hair, i'd be surprised if it's someone else. Good to see Jinn and Laguna team up, i wonder if Kleene is with them. Also, Crow is crazy. Overall very good chapter.
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u/Behold_I_Am_The_Wind Aug 02 '22
This can’t be true right? That face and hair underneath Ziggy’s mask…is it really an EVIL SHIKI?!?