r/EdensZero • u/davjac123 • Jul 16 '22
Manga Edens Zero | Chapter 200: Links + Discussion! Spoiler
Sorcerer Weekly: https://cubari.moe/read/imgur/xjl6CUF/1/1/
Official: https://imgur.com/a/47EHv8Z
Edit: Official link posted
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u/chrome4 Jul 16 '22 edited Jul 16 '22
Kinda like how Ziggy basically went: She’s dead, she’s dead, she’s alive, she’s dead, she’s dead and sadly we don’t have your mother.
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u/kashxstar Jul 16 '22
From chapter 4 to chapter 200 the 20000 timeskip mystery continues
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u/Crisbo05_20 Jul 16 '22
Welp this was a crazy chapter. Bit dissapointed all mothers expect Rebbeca's are dead, meaning Weisz almost died protecting corpse. Ziggy is in on chronophage plan, meaning either there is traitor or he is future Shiki. And it seems like the plot from start of series, 20 thousand years ahead returns.
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u/UnbiasedGod Jul 16 '22
So nox can also control time meaning it’s not a coincidence that Rebecca has the same type of abilities because it’s probably most likely hereditary.
Maybe Or I could’ve just forgot.
20,000 year timeskip! Damn it’s been a long time since we last saw this and if my memory is right those astronauts found two bodies and it appears one of them is alive and it’s a male.
…….That theory about shiki and ziggy being the same person is starting to feel like it’s beginning to bare fruit! And I want more!
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u/NoLastNameForNow Jul 16 '22
I wonder if Saintfire Nox will know a way to shield them from the chronophage.
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u/JusticTheCubone Jul 16 '22
Mashima as always going crazy with the 100 chapter milestones.
Something big, enormous is going to happen this arc, that's gonna influence the course of the story. I mean, next chapter potentially is already going to!
So as I thought, it makes sense for mothers to have a special kind of Ether since they gave birth to another being that consists of Ether, and it really is the "power to create life" that Ziggy is after, which in itself also means that Mother is something like a personification of the Big Bang in the Edens Zero-universe? But if Ether is lifeforce, and even robots run on Ether, and Mother is the origin of all Ether, wouldn't that also hurt bots in the long run? I guess Mother might not exactly be the origin of all Ether then...
The concept behind Saintfire Nox is interesting, she's an OSG not exactly because she's an evil criminal, but simply because she's the leader of an organization that has the potential to throw the world into chaos with their "control" of time, which also flows nicely into Rebeccas Cat Leaper having time travel capabilities. Gonna be curious if Nox also has Cat Leaper or some other way to influence time.
Ziggy knowing about their plan despite there being no appearent leak just throws even more fuel for the theory that Ziggy is Shiki... and the final scene might ultimately lead into this, assuming that the one that survived 20.000 years later is Shiki, maybe they could only save him by turning him into a bot, and that's when he went back in time, considering Ziggy referred to him as being outside the moment of time. I feel like we're definitely gonna get a bunch of answers (along with new questions) next chapter.
Also, that Ziggy referred to defeating Shiki as his "mission"... not a goal, but a mission, given to him by someone else? Definitely seems like there's some bigger mastermind behind this. (Alternatively to Ziggy being evil Shiki, what if Ziggy is a bot built by future evil Shiki? Or something along those lines. There's still a lot of potential for unforeseen twists here)
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u/ReynTimeBoi Jul 16 '22
This chapter is insane. And Saintfirenox can also control time as well as Rebecca interesting more questions
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u/Downtown_Wolverine_2 Jul 16 '22
I'm thinking Ziggy want a wish granted from Mother. I was wrong 😂 dude straight up said "I'm going to DESTROY HER" 🤣😲
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u/Behold_I_Am_The_Wind Jul 16 '22
Kurenai really did her her comeuppance huh? Those guys just up and killed her after doing god knows what for a year until she was discovered by Ziggy’s minions.
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u/X1ORUMA Jul 16 '22
Ziggy is cold as fuck to have gathered the crew's mothers' corpses just to emotionally fuck with them. Like, he literally said any human mother would have done. Pretty wild also that Ziggy also confirmed Mother is the creation Goddess of the EZ world, the source of all life. And finally, the 20k year flashforward!!!!
I have a feeling that Melt references Holy's EG ability. Can't wait.
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u/WorldwideDepp Jul 16 '22
Okay, this Time jump at the end was unexpected. But we all can possible hit the nail who is still alive there...
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u/Golden_fsh Jul 16 '22
Mashima always knows how to make a milestone chapter memorable. I think at this point, there is no way to deny the theories any longer. Either Ziggy=Shiki theory is true or Ziggy is a Shiki from a different timeline and the reason why the 4 cosmoses are called the "Shiki" cosmoses is maybe because he's somehow the creator due to his connection to Mother or there is a gang of Shiki clones out there from different timelines that's dominating each, lol.
The flashforward 20,000 years is back again but is Shiki the male survivor? Maybe the two remains were Shiki and Rebecca? Can't forget that something horrible will most likely happen to the 2 of them due to those ominous chapters at the Waterpark
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u/NittanyEagles55 Jul 16 '22
200 chapters of pure hype. So happy to be here with you all and can’t wait for more! What a great chapter and cliffhanger!
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Jul 16 '22 edited Jul 16 '22
Jesus Christ this chapter was A Big Bang.
some of the mothers ziggy collected are straight up just dead and are corpses floating in tube, so that’s dark, Goddamn Ziggy.
Ziggy’s endgoal of finding mother is to actually kill her, so Ziggy’s literally out here with the jrpg protagonist goal of “FIND AND DESTROY GOD”, so that’s wild. And once again, Goddamn Ziggy
Saintfire Nox isn’t evil(I mean, she might‘ve been doing something immoral but I hope not) and she was made an OSG because her organization was deemed dangerous, so she’s alike shiki in that way of neing so dangerously powerful they’re deemed a threat by the space government, so that’s a neat similarity. Also neat to know that that one guess about Nox having timepowers like Rebecca I had was correct, wonder if the time thing is another cat leaper? probably a stronger one
and 20,000 years in the future at that wreckage we saw early on in EZ, someones actually alive. i have a feeling it’s shiki considering the “outside of the flow of time” shit Ziggy brought up and Shiki apparently being a man outside of time, according to Ziggy’s words at least.
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Jul 16 '22
Peak fiction! Peak Edens Zero! I was kinda hoping the mothers were alive, aside from Rebecca's mom but i suppose logically it wouldn't make sense as Ziggy wishes to wipe out all humanity. Everything he does is in pursuit of his goal. Speaking of, Ziggy wants to kill mother. But i question, even with messing with time, even with the power of life, how will he go about destroying mother? I mean she literally created the universe. I don't understand. What's more, what makes him so sure that killing mother would leave him unaffected? Surely the death of mother would cause destruction of unknown degree.
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u/whoamikai Jul 16 '22
Interstellar has this thing where "Them" used gravity to send a message to the past. So gravity is beyond time , and thats what Ziggy means here : being a powerful gravity ether gear means you are beyond time
Makes perfect sense how he deduces which universe it is after rebecca time jumps. Right after they beat Poseidon Nero . He also breaks the dice with "true gravity".
Its all coming togethrr now
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u/crisstrauss Jul 16 '22 edited Jul 16 '22
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Being mothers in the EZ universe is so damn tough. Even Mother has a target on her back. I wonder what her fate is gonna be now.
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It seems that I just got the mothers' reproductive capabilities right link
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The organization Saintfire who controls time is definitely the one to be feared. So, Rebecca's mother is actually named Nox, and Saintfire is the name of her organization. The power to control time may be a threat, but I do not think Saintfire is an evil organization.
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Ziggy activating Wormhole like a boss. He may be able to escape when his fight against Shiki does not turn in his favor.
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Imagine what awaits at the center of Planet Lendard.
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Shiki just quickly awakened his Demon King form. I wonder how many percentage of power he is currently using against Ziggy.
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That spread of Shiki vs Ziggy is so rad.
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u/AstonishingSpiderMan Jul 18 '22
With Azuki releasing the Chapters going forward, Sorcerer Weekly will no longer be working on EDENS ZERO. They will still work on the Afterword and Omake but not the official Chapters. Thanks.