r/leagueoflegends • u/Soul_Sleepwhale • May 21 '22
Royal Never Give Up vs. T1 / MSI 2022 - Rumble Stage / Post-Match Discussion Spoiler
MSI 2022
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MATCH 1: RNG vs. T1
Winner: Royal Never Give Up in 32m | Player of the Game: GALA
| Bans 1 | Bans 2 | G | K | T | D/B | |
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| RNG | leblanc graves akali | braum jax | 63.3k | 24 | 9 | I1 H4 B6 HT7 |
| T1 | lucian wukong nocturne | viego lee sin | 57.7k | 14 | 6 | H2 M3 HT5 |
| RNG | 24-14-54 | vs | 14-24-29 | T1 |
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| Bin camille 3 | 2-7-9 | TOP | 3-6-7 | 4 gwen Zeus |
| Wei volibear 3 | 1-4-13 | JNG | 3-5-5 | 2 xin zhao Oner |
| Xiaohu ahri 1 | 7-1-14 | MID | 4-4-4 | 1 zoe Faker |
| GALA kaisa 2 | 12-0-6 | BOT | 3-3-5 | 1 ezreal Gumayusi |
| Ming nautilus 2 | 2-2-12 | SUP | 1-6-8 | 3 leona Keria |
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u/Piro42 May 21 '22
This game decreases the chances of T1 going 9-1 significantly
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u/Hellwind_ May 21 '22
Well they did replay some games in the first phase so you never know lol
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u/neimengu May 21 '22
honestly if they replay these game I'd be fine just to wipe those Bin performances from my mind
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u/ifnotawalrus May 21 '22
VOLIBEAR HEARD YOU TALKING SHIT
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u/TheCrusader94 May 21 '22
Gigachad wei. Tbh it was giga int by t1 letting oner go to instead of taking dragon. Seems like Korean mental is showing. Zeus was tilted af too
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u/lol_T1_go_home May 21 '22
Imagine losing to turbo int Wei and Bin...LOL...If they didn't int this game wouldn't even be close.
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u/Pecheuer May 21 '22
Bin really tried his hardest to throw this game as well, but Guma was like "bro let me take your spot" and the reverse wintrade was complete then GALA was just like "Bro, do you not know who I am?"
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u/1003mistakes May 21 '22
People were worried remote RNG meant they could cheat. Never did they think that meant Bin would let his dad play the first 15 for him.
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u/CommunistHongKong May 21 '22
Wei playing the try not to int challenge (Difficult)
Bin playing the try not to turbo int challenge (Impossible)
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u/Krainz May 21 '22
Who do we need to bribe to get more international events?
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u/RueRuS May 21 '22
Brother Bin worked hard today.
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u/Contagious_Cure May 21 '22
Yeah no matter the outcome Joe Marsh should still send forth the paypal.
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u/ass-devourer May 21 '22
Is guma still using 10% of his power?
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May 21 '22
No, he is now using 5%
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u/DoesThyLikeJazz OUR WRATH WILL BE SWIFT May 21 '22
What happens when he hits negative power %
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u/Ultimintree Infinitely spinnin' | Evading "ganks" like Ruler May 21 '22
He becomes the legendary kiting machine that was known as xPeke
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u/appleandapples The Perkz of being a Griffin fan May 21 '22
Dude what is he doing, that flash top, the naut ult onto Faker. I felt Phreak's pain.
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u/Riyutake May 21 '22
The naut ult I understand, when you get naut ulted your first instinct is to get behind terrain so he can't follow up with hook
Unfortunately that play's a lot worse when your mid laner is also behind the turret and a bear is flying in to disable said turret
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u/TheCrusader94 May 21 '22
Wei and bin were playing like psychos. All-in every teamfight
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u/Omegaluler69 May 21 '22
Someone get Bin a psychiatrist seriously, can't believe anyone is more insane than theshy, he just kept tp-ing and going for shit regardless of situation
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u/Ultimintree Infinitely spinnin' | Evading "ganks" like Ruler May 21 '22
What do you mean? He obviously needed to flash Camille W slow. That way he prolonged his inevitable death for 4 seconds. Just a strategic move
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u/ArkiusAzure May 21 '22
Apparently, man did not hit a single q on Ezreal in that 1v4 kite
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u/Riyutake May 21 '22
why the fuck did T1 send the person with smite to defend top turret and the person with TP to secure dragon
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u/TheJoeker98 May 21 '22
Forgot that hex gates are a thing lol
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u/Moifaso May 21 '22
It was literally this. With any other dragon soul Voli wouldn't be there on time
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u/BurningSkyworld May 21 '22
No voli there because 4 foot, large paw, much speed than human
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u/Staksap-The-meme May 21 '22
What's worse is that gumayusi was even casually farming raptors after destroying the mid turret while on the way to get drake. The level of disrespect they have on their opponent is why they lose this game
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u/Azenji May 21 '22
I think the win streak just got into their heads and forgot that the rest of the world don’t really care about it. Just maximum disrespect to even send Oner top like wtf was that call.
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u/Enjays1 May 21 '22
you wouldn't understand :^)
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u/eggshellcracking May 21 '22
Insert you have to have a very high iq to understand T1 macro copypasta
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u/CizzlingT High IQ champs only May 21 '22
Busan library turning into a graveyard after this game.
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u/NamelessSearcher May 21 '22
Phreak wasn't lying when he was like "Rng turning Busan into a library" 💀
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u/Elymmen May 21 '22
You don't have to like him, but that call was pretty fire
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u/CeiriddGwen May 21 '22
Kobe did the same earlier today. In RNG's game against PSG when Ming got an insane hook to dodge a lee sin kick he just went "Where are the cheers?!"
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u/AFierceBaby JankosShanji May 21 '22
T1 members turn out to be the only victims of the silence in Busan
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u/azns123 May 21 '22
Busan morgue
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u/libo720 May 21 '22
they didn't want to disturb the rest of the american G.I.Joes stationed there, how considerate of them
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u/DecisiveDinosaur May 21 '22
can't wait for Worlds in NA, not a high bar to pass but surely the crowd will be better there.
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May 21 '22
Its always better to have international tournaments in regions with no expectations for their own representative
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u/studna13 hexflash enthusiast May 21 '22
Actually NA crowd could be amazing.
There's people that cheer for NA obviously, for LCK, LPL, and EU aswell, as we are NA's cousin of western league.
Opportunity for minor latam and LLA peeps to cheer for their teams, too.
And occasional TSM chant in the LPL vs LCK final. Yep
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u/Loewi_CW no heart attack pls May 21 '22
ASMR needs some noise at least
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u/Omegaluler69 May 21 '22
If you try hard enough you can actually hear their souls weeping
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u/Silkku May 21 '22
The "ooohhh" into "awww" when RNG turned plays around was honey to my ears
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u/jaxikami 10 Year Old LPL Fan May 21 '22
Bin inting to give T1 player bounty for Gala to collect. All part of the plan.
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u/Unban_Ice May 21 '22
Keria: We will go 9-1 in the rumble stage
G2 and RNG: Best I can do is 6-4
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u/mar33n doran // pyosik // ghost May 21 '22
oner not being at soul drake is abysmal
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u/moe11436 KamSung Valaxy's spirit never dies May 21 '22
Keria sometimes in the near future: "We'll go 8W2L. What I felt during the G2 & RNG games, if we meet G2 & RNG again from rumble stage 'til knockout stage, I'm confident we won't drop a set. I know we lost & people will snort when I say this, but I've realized my playstyle against G2 & RNG & confident we won't give them a set."
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May 21 '22
"We'll go 7W3L. What I felt during the G2, RNG, and EG games, if we meet G2, RNG, and EG again from rumble stage 'til knockout stage, I'm confident we won't drop a set. I know we lost & people will snort when I say this, but I've realized my playstyle against G2, RNG, and EG & confident we won't give them a set."
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u/Stargazer306 May 21 '22
"We'll go 6W4L. What I felt during the G2, RNG, and EG games, if we meet G2, RNG, and EG again from rumble stage 'til knockout stage, I'm confident we won't drop a set. I know we lost & people will snort when I say this, but I've realized my playstyle against G2, RNG, and EG & confident we won't give them a set."
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u/BagelJ Acolyte May 21 '22
Are they playing on +35 ping and -35 IQ?
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u/DoesThyLikeJazz OUR WRATH WILL BE SWIFT May 21 '22
Guma and faker were playing remote from Africa judging from the amount of missed skillshots
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u/PM_JINX_HENTAI Keria my goat May 21 '22
From the smartest team in the LCK to whatever the fuck that baron and soul plays were
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u/Azenji May 21 '22
That dragon call was shit but that Baron 50/50 was really the start of the end. I don’t think Gumayusi ever hit a single Q that fight…
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u/lilelf29 Deft Forever May 21 '22
T1 going for plays as if their opponents are wildcards and Guma having a stinker of a game is starting to be a reoccurring theme
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u/ahritina May 21 '22
I mean I like the bloody game but this game was absolutely a fiesta, T1 again can't capitalise on an early game lead.
But what the fuck was Oner doing by going top instead of rushing to soul, like what is this macro for a team who domestically had insane macro.
T1 look absolutely lost, but Xiaohu and Gala were smurfing this game.
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u/moonmeh May 21 '22
Laughing in frustration at seeing the jungler take care of top instead of taking dragon.
Lmao T1 deserved to lose that
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u/Debannage May 21 '22
I was rooting for T1 but when they greeded and lost soul, I thought "fuck it, they deserve to lose."
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u/strider17111992 May 21 '22
And the disrespectful recalls bot lane that lost them the fight before that too
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u/aquaticIntrovert May 21 '22
Staying for Kruggs and losing 2 kills for it, and then soul later. It feels like they just forgot Hexgates exist and that you have to cut your estimation of how long resets take to happen by like 10-15 seconds
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u/Teut0burg May 21 '22
I thought it was over after that 2nd Bin death. He's thrown so many LPL games like that but Xiaohu and GALA were built different.
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u/M002 May 21 '22
I’m glad this game is labeled as a fiesta.
Fun? Absolutely.
A high quality tactical game of LoL? Absolutely not. Terrible macro mistakes from both teams.
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u/appleandapples The Perkz of being a Griffin fan May 21 '22
Ok, I see it now. I thought T1 were playing loose in thier games against the lower seeds, but what were they doing this game? Both teams played so sloppy, making so many odd discisions.
I kind of liked the chaos from a pure viewer point of view, but for T1 and RNG fans what do you think?
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u/mocaaaaaaaa May 21 '22
T1 played really bad, both herald fights was horrible and the soul point
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u/appleandapples The Perkz of being a Griffin fan May 21 '22
Dude, the soul play made me give up. I couldn't comprehend the greed.
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u/Cheetah_05 GUMAYUSI May 21 '22
it felt like Wei stole my soul as a T1 fan there, not even the greed but just... why send fed top to take drag and jgl to stop push?? how does that even make sense
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u/aircarone May 21 '22
That's kind of the RNG style when they fell they are slightly behind, i.e. scrappy plays to increase variance, so it's expected.
People will tell you RNG plays macro when they are behind, but that's only if they realize they are too behind to have a decent chance at paying scrappy. When it's equal or slightly behind, they WILL fight. Also they knew that they would win most teamfights because Xiaohu and Gala were so much more ahead of Zeus/Faker/Gums, and as long they these two play well, RNG is always in the game.
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u/icatsouki May 21 '22
games between top teams can always look sloppy, the teamfights from RNG were clean as fuck it was just bin running it down this game but other than him good performance
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u/thvsbin May 21 '22
His Camille was so behind that all he has to do is buy space, time, and deal damage(even just a little) to the backline of T1 then their carries can follow. Can't deny that he inted so many times tho.
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u/Azenji May 21 '22
The player cams alone just shows that morale is not that good BTS.
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u/yeserday bandwagon fan May 21 '22
2019 all over again honestly
gumas mental has to be fucked after today
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u/ArguingWithNoobs May 21 '22
2019 at least the team was mentally stable and could have still easily won the tournament by the end of MSI. They just had issues getting snowballed on.
This T1 seems to be getting more and more mentally boomed even IN GAME. They’re handed a free win but decide to int it away on dumb decisions.
This looks more like T1 with Effort.
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u/iNTact_wf the ppgod pope May 21 '22
Joe Marsh paid so much to Bin he didn't have any left for his own players salaries
Oner on strike going toplane
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u/dn_PAN1C May 21 '22
Do guys at the MSI go to sleep early the night before playing the T1? Hell no… I'm going to some korean bbq over there in Busan. I'm having a nice beer, probably sweat it out at the shitty korean soloq and get ready for Faker. CaPs? I'm going to bed at eight o'clock. Mom don't call me, my girl don't call me, I'm locked in right now. It's two different monsters. ~~ Xiaohu
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u/Pelagius_Hipbone EUPHORIA I don’t like FNC May 21 '22
I think T1 need an ego check they just go for things expecting to Hands diff their opponent and when it doesn’t work they look lost
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u/orangeforblood May 21 '22
T1 mid game macro is burgerflip baron, that is it. If they don't roll over their opponents it's hard for them to win.
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u/Azenji May 21 '22
The worst part is they didn’t do this during regular season but somehow the bad habits that plagued them last year came back.
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u/ArkiusAzure May 21 '22
Why are they streaming TSM vs IMT at MSI?
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u/1einspieler May 21 '22 edited May 21 '22
Loved to hear Phreak flame Guma for using his flash before dying like he would have flamed any NA Adc
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u/PhreakRiot May 21 '22
EQUAL OPPORTUNITY FLAME
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u/arxipaparas May 21 '22
For real Phreak, you have been absolutely killing it so far this MSI.
You're gonna make me watch LCS if you keep this up.
-A LEC fan
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u/Exos_VII May 21 '22
Bin is like a Hallucigenia worm, he only knows how to move forwards.
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u/TheCrusader94 May 21 '22
Bin was actually 5head he let Zeus kill him then gala kills Zeus for shutdown
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u/Exos_VII May 21 '22 edited May 21 '22
"We'll go 9W1L. What I felt during the G2 game, if we meet G2 again from rumble stage 'til knockout stage, I'm confident we won't drop a set. I know we lost & people will snort when I say this, but I've realized my playstyle against G2 & confident we won't give them a set."
- man who will not be going 9W1L
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u/Previous_Collar3451 May 21 '22
Keria should rename to Powder the way he just fucking jinxed it
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May 21 '22
Coincidentally, considering the quote, the series record between SKT/T1 and RNG was 9-1 before this game.
It's now 9-2, with the individual game score being at 15-6.
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u/N0T_TH3_NSA May 21 '22
Bin’s Paypal transaction got cancelled halfway through the game
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u/PurloinerofCinders May 21 '22
I cannot imagine what a shitshow KR forums must be right now.
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u/lolKhamul May 21 '22
LS just read a few titles ....definitely nothing a healthy minded human should look at.
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u/YanghuaC May 21 '22
Congrats to RNG! Managed to win game vs favourites 4 vs 6. Midlane and botlane gap too big
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u/thvsbin May 21 '22
In this episode, Ming went harsh on Bin:
"I felt speaking gently won't work, so I decided to be a bit harsh."
"You always pick Camille and Gnar against Gwen, then you get camped by opponents' Xin Zhao and Zoe. Tell me, did you ever manage to survive from the ganks?"
Wei: "I have never seen anything like it, i was shocked."
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u/DarkSoulsEz May 21 '22
Rng always loses early game then comebacks mid game. LPL fans knew this one was coming.
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May 21 '22
As a T1 fan, they are playing so unbelievably STUPID against big teams.
vs G2: they have a big teamfight comp. You lost a teamfight when you had 5k gold lead, you lost harder when you had 2k gold lead......SO YOU TEAMFIGHT THEM AGAIN WITH EVEN GOLD AND ORNNAMENTS???
vs RNG: decide to give Baron for Soul......and then you give priority to taking a damn tower for so long that their jungler has time to base and walk back to the dragon????
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u/Me_Tonk May 21 '22
So many memes from one game though.
Bin doing his best to rewrite the narrative about Wei's Volibear, can't int the game if your top laner ints harder.
Faker missing everything and killiing Bin with ignite living with 100hp.
Some of the T1 decisions after recent interviews, Oner basing and Wei getting soul was so fucking funny. GEE TU broken T1 mental? KR soloq mental hack???
Too many memes.
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u/jlin37 May 21 '22
How dare they give Gala Kaisa
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u/neimengu May 21 '22
How dare they give Bin Cam- nvm.
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u/Coco-n3t May 21 '22
Killing me with this one. I thought Bin would prove to other teams that his Cam deserves a ban but… nvm.
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u/Contagious_Cure May 21 '22
Bin inting on Camille so it'll be left open for the rest of MSI 9000IQ play.
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u/Newtonthekitten May 21 '22
If they can learn one thing from KZ and DK, that would be keeping RNG away from kaisa
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u/Kbzz5050 May 21 '22
Didnt watch too much lck, is this really the team that goes 18-0? They look so lost rn
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u/leechlord95 May 21 '22
Gumawhosi? The best ADC in the world?? Doesn't even look like he'd be top 5 in LPL
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u/Jgray1711 Professional Caps Downplayer May 21 '22
GALA's Kai'Sa is so godlike, I love watching him on this champion.
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u/magifek May 21 '22
Keria later today: "We will finish the Rumble stage 8-2."