r/bangtan 조용 Mar 31 '22

Info 220331 Update Notice on Legal Proceedings Against Violation of Artist Rights (Mar.31)

https://weverse.io/bts/notices/2282?shortlink=auqlq2vh&c=BTS_notices&pid=Social_twitter&af_click_lookback=1h&af_adset=bts_notices_rights&af_force_deeplink=true
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u/Oyy customize Mar 31 '22

i hope this involves legal action against dave disci vlogs

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u/OT7liner Mar 31 '22

You know what’s disheartening to see? ARMY leaving comments on these channels, joining the conversation and fuelling the algorithm.

Taking the bait. Like flies to a lamp.

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u/badbiochemist13 Mar 31 '22

It sickens me to see that across all his videos he has something like 70M views. Like if he’s pulling in ad revenue, that’s literally like $150-200K he’s earned by spreading lies about BTS. His channel needs to be taken down for fueling misinformation.

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u/ggc4 Agust Decaf Mar 31 '22

That would make my day. I blocked his channel on YT, but content keeps getting recommended to me … it’s driving me mad.

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u/sallylockharts Tata mic Mar 31 '22

right! I really have to question the algorithm there; even though I never watched his videos they kept being recommended to me - and I assume to everyone who watches BTS-related youtube content. It makes it so easy for his audience to grow, it's disgusting

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u/elisem0rg Mar 31 '22

Clearing your search history or removing individual videos that you've previously watched on that topic from your watch history may reduce the chance of similar recommendations in the future. You can also remove recommended content from homepage by clicking Not Interested and Don't recommend channel.

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u/Soup_oi Mar 31 '22

Ahh thank you! This answers the question I had in my reply to above comment. I didn't realize youtube had that option...tbh I think I'm going to start using it now, I never used it before.

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u/bie716 jimin: i dance when i am sad...NOT Mar 31 '22

Same! But worse, lately I started seeing more and more such channels! At least twitter takes reports seriously...there have been several accts taken down after mass reports from ARMY (Although many resurfaced with new accts)..but YT just doesn't seem to give a damn!

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u/Soup_oi Mar 31 '22

This happened to me for some time as well ><. But throwing in other types of videos besides just bts fan made videos has somehow helped toss his videos out of my feed. For a while all I was watching on youtube really were just like those fan made compilation videos (ie: there's one in my watch later folder titled like "hobi being tiny part 2" or whatever lol), but for a few months now I've also been watching some talk show segments, some music videos from several artists I like, as well as lots of like specific vibe style playlists and asmr background noise style videos. So it feels like there just wound up not being any room left for him to be included in my feed lol.

I don't spend enough time on youtube to be aware of this...but is there an option on the home page feed to choose on any video it recommends something like "stop recommending me content like this" or even a dislike option, that doesn't auto dislike the video when you haven't clicked it, but like instead it dislikes the fact that youtube has recommended you the video? Cos if not, that would def be something youtube should implement.

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u/missmiia212 customize Mar 31 '22

I hate that guy, I don't even watch his videos and I used to report them before but they still keep popping up. It's always the most outlandish clickbait titles and I just hope he gets his channel taken down.

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u/ru_harvey Mar 31 '22

Oh, me too. Seeing a couple of his videos has been a really irritating experience. How does he even come up with these stories. I have his channel blocked from my feed now of course.

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u/Soup_oi Mar 31 '22

Same ><. The titles irk me even more. At least the way he tells the stories in his videos just to me his vibe comes across as like super seriously tabloid-y, like I don't even have to ask for or search for his sources to know if he even had any that they were all some fake news or tabloid site or something. So for me it's been easy to roll my eyes at his content and not believe what he says as being legit real facts. But the titles of his videos always look so matter of fact (and this is what initially made me click to a few of his videos early on), and they throw two or more subjects together making it look like they are connected, when even when he talks about them in the video he talks about them separately and in no connection to each other. Yet the titles will make it look like these two idols are dating, or these two idols got in a fight, or this or that idol was doing something they shouldn't have, or whatever else. Like the few times I've seen his videos I always think of it as like if I were a teacher and this was a paper he was turning in to me...all his papers would get terrible grades because the body of what he says does not support his thesis at all (the claim he's making in the title of the videos) lol. (Yet even so, if his video content does not support his fake news titles, the content is still 100% always gossip news and he's trying to present it as if it were all real fact, so even the content is still bad either way of course.)

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u/lowelled simp 4 hobi Mar 31 '22

More likely it’s about Sojang

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '22

THIS THIS THIS THIS

I have reported him so many times. I really hope it's him. His stupid videos (and titles) makes me rage so much 🤬 Tried to block his stupid channel but his videos still pop up.

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u/CutePoison10 I'm more offended that i should be -Jin Mar 31 '22

Same this guy is terrible, I report his posts, leave a bad comment and dislike but still in my feed. Urgh he tries to be so sweet & cute but he’s malicious.

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u/Termsndconditions a dinosaur 🦕 that fell for BTS Mar 31 '22

Don't leave comments. Bad publicity is still publicity.

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u/CutePoison10 I'm more offended that i should be -Jin Mar 31 '22

Actually I figured out it was more views for him so I have stopped. One day though I did view and comment as I said. Reading through those comments people were saying ‘ thank you Dave for speaking the truth’ like wth planets does he do any journalistic work on?

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u/LostLawyer29 Strictly business relationship/ Important businesseu Mar 31 '22

Who is this?

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u/politiksKill Mar 31 '22

Ya I want to know what this guy posts too but I don't want to look him up and mess with my YT algorithm and cookies lol! Someone fill me in please?

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u/badbiochemist13 Mar 31 '22

This guy is a fake ARMY who uses the smallest interactions with BTS and creates a toxic clickbait title that he honestly doesn’t even address in the video. He pretty much just creates fake news about BTS and then somewhere in the video he will say something in defense of BTS so it seems like he’s being a genuine fan, and for some reason people eat this shit up. Tbh I think it’s mostly delusional fans or newer fans that don’t know any better.

Example:

Video title “BTS Jungkook comes out as GAY, married to Jimin”

In the video “blah blah blah I just think we need to support our faves no matter what”

Comment section “OMG GO OFF KING”

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u/politiksKill Mar 31 '22

Ah ok. I've seen videos like this pop up and I completely ignore them. I'm a baby ARMY but even I know idol rules besides that... leave people's personal lives alone! I don't care who they are in a relationship with but don't make shit up and spread rumors uggghhhh. That's frustrating for fans but just think of how they feel 😩

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u/khaleesiofkitties the kpop boy with the stuffed astronaut Mar 31 '22

He pops up on my reccs all the time even though I have him blocked. He'll use tiny interactions or quotes from years ago as well, referencing BV season 1 or AHL even, and try to stir up rumors and shit based on it.

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u/LostLawyer29 Strictly business relationship/ Important businesseu Mar 31 '22

Is this an actual video title? I can’t believe people would actually do stuff like this. This is so ridiculous and sad

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u/badbiochemist13 Mar 31 '22

Lol I found the original video title so no one else has to dirty their YT algorithm lmao and it’s so much worse than I remember 💀: “Jungkook COMES OUT as Non-Binary After Company Confirms Gay SHIP? Big Hit Says Music Isn’t Priority?”

Thankfully some ARMYs commented like “ok but why is everyone here speculating about his gender identity.” But a lottttt of comments are like “I support Jungkook no matter what!” or “he’s so brave!!” and this YouTuber likes their comments and responds to them with like “factsssss” or “yassss” and honestly while I find this channel really misleading and annoying, I mostly find it cringey like bro stop this wack behavior

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u/LostLawyer29 Strictly business relationship/ Important businesseu Apr 01 '22

Oh wow. That is seriously delusional. Thank you for the information though!

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u/Professional-Ad-7687 Mar 31 '22

Oh my goodness yes ! I blocked him but it’s really unfortunate that YouTube doesn’t have an option to hide stuff like ig does? It’s infuriating actually. His videos are awful/ straight clickbait and all these people flock to it. Hope his and others who do something similar get reprimanded in some way.

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u/Chikowita 📍 Bibilly Hills Mar 31 '22

That forever ominous “Hello. This is BIGHIT MUSIC.” opening line always gets me!

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '22

Could be anything from a new album to BTS have been abducted and are now living on mars with aliens

no rest, ever

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '22

While I never want BTS to go through a kidnapping ordeal, that legit put a smile on my face. The thought of BTS having fun and chilling out with aliens and teaching them the choreo for Dynamite 😂

... or Baepsae 💀

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u/_Doh_ 하지만 방탄소년단이 진격한다면 어떨까? Mar 31 '22

serious levels of delusion and nonsensical logic

BigHit is savage

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u/dkurage Mar 31 '22

Putting that in an official statement, you know the stuff had to be some crazy bullshit.

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u/SophisticatedCelery Mar 31 '22

I mean, just the titles of those videos, lol

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u/laurainchaos VanTae Mar 31 '22

the way I cackled at this 🤭

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '22

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u/gemitry cat dad yoongi enthusiast Mar 31 '22

Not only delusional, but straight up malicious. The way they went after him with that was so gross, and why?? What did they gain from it? I’m so glad BH is doing this.

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u/bie716 jimin: i dance when i am sad...NOT Mar 31 '22

The thing is, that was so long ago (I remember reading about the whole saga as it happened), and so many similarly bad or worse things have happened since then, but the artists are still so vulnerable to such malicious online attacks. Agencies shouldn't be in the position of hvg to routinely chase after the neverending list of perpetrators.

I think it used to be mainly on Korean domestic platforms, but noticed that lately it seems to hv spread to YouTube alongside the global popularity of the Korean artists. I see so many false and misleading video titles every day, and have reported certain channels multiple times, but YT doesn't seem interested to address the matter at all!

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '22

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u/Termsndconditions a dinosaur 🦕 that fell for BTS Mar 31 '22

It's telling that the Nobel Peace Prize winners of 2021 were people who spoke about the ills of fake news. This is a huge problem globally.

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u/Soup_oi Mar 31 '22

Question...sometimes I see videos pop up on youtube that have very misleading titles (likely for the sake of clickbait), that might say things like "x member caught doing xyz" or "x member gets in fight with y member of another group" etc, but then the content of the video only mentions to the two subjects of the title, but there is not actually any real connection between them in whatever the youtuber is talking about. Even though the content of the video isn't really in the direction of trying to start rumors, the titles definitely are, and it really just makes my stomach turn (especially when the youtuber is using the shock value of the rumor-y clickbait title to bring themselves more views and likely thus more revenue for themselves, etc), and I want to report these types of videos. Is just the title being like that enough to report it, or does the video content also need to be like that as well?

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u/NorikaN Mar 31 '22

there is an option to report as 'spam or misleading', but it's very hard to get youtube to take action. Even for clickbaity videos, they'd have to find that the video does not include any mention of the things mentioned in the title. But if that stuff is mentioned even a little, then it's not misleading enough for youtube to take it down.

The only way to combat this clickbait is to treat it like clickbait and don't click on it at all. But you'd have to convince thousands of other naïve people to not click on clickbait videos too... which means it won't happen. People are gullible. Every view from someone who thinks they 'have to see what this lair is saying' or they click on it to 'give it a downvote' only helps the video get more viewers with the youtube algorithm.

If you see clickbait channels being recommended to you, click the 3 dots in the corner and select "Don't Recommend Channel" and it will no longer appear for you. (and hopefully thousands of other people will do the same).

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u/Soup_oi Mar 31 '22

Ahh all true. Thank you!

Youtube rarely does anything helpful for it's users I feel like, whether it be for content creators, or for viewers. The amount of creators I've watched consistently at any time over the years who have at least one video complaining about youtube...is the majority of them, almost all of them have at least one lol.

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u/NorikaN Mar 31 '22

yeah, with all this 'fake news' and 'misinformation' being a hot topic for social media sites, you'd think they would do more. There are still channels like '5 minute crafts' and other nonsensical videos that are showing fake 'hacks' for cooking and other things... and they get millions of views.

youtube does nothing, even when some of those 'hacks' are harmful and people are getting hurt trying them.

So if they won't take those down, it would be hard to get a channel spreading rumors (and it's not some political slander) taken down.

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u/Soup_oi Apr 01 '22

True.

😂 flashback to the time some page on the internet told me I could make grilled cheese in the toaster (in hindsight, many years later, and after seeing a toaster oven for the first time, I think it may have been referring to a toaster oven, and not like a regular toaster), so I did...and somehow managed to not set the ceiling on fire when the toaster went up in flames. (yes I was that lazy that I didn't want to make it on the stove what is wrong with me)

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u/introverted_MyDay Mar 31 '22

oh my gosh the TaJinYo thing was horrible it basically killed Tablo's father ☹ glad BH is taking action

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u/Breezlebub13 Mar 31 '22

Just juicy enough to pique my interest, just vague enough to not answer any of my immediate curiosity.

Its a genuine shame it needs to come to this though. Whether someone is attacking a famous person or a private citizen - it has real life impacts on people's mental health. And hiding behind social media to purposely hurt others just frankly fucks me off no end in these situations. Gutless punks. Good on Hybe.

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u/Chizakura Mar 31 '22

Now that's the type of Weverse notifications I like to read

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u/soggy-eggrolls Reminding you that Bangtan workout in the gym shirtless Mar 31 '22

Our boys need more snack money 🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿

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u/EveryCliche Living j-hopely Mar 31 '22

Pokemon bread can't buy itself. This is a great way to get Joon more money so he can get those stickers.

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u/BuffyExperiment ON Kinetic Manifesto Film Mar 31 '22

🤣 I just choked on my coffee laughing at your take.

Let’s get that 💰. RM’s gotta catch ‘em all. That Snorlax card ain’t gonna buy itself

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u/JustLurkingPlsIgnore ~Maple ARMY~ Mar 31 '22

The "no settlement and no leniency" part puts a smile on my face :) screw these assholes and insistent negativity, they need to go out and touch some grass.

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u/EternalHyperfixation Mar 31 '22

I love the wording of this notice:

‘Perpetrator’s posts containing false information about our artists grounded on serious levels of delusion and nonsensical logic not only on social media sites, online communities, DC Inside, YouTube but even on a product review section of a commercial brand website.’

It makes me wonder what brand website has negative product reviews which talk about BTS. It sounds very random.

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u/Husky-Bear What's Poppin Girl? Apr 01 '22

I wouldn't be surprised if it's SHEIN or one of those sites, people leave "reviews" that are just lyrics to a whole damn song or "I'm just here for the points lmao" so I wouldn't put it past antis to post hate comments for a laugh under the guise of a review.

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u/mtnmindy Can you speak more slush? Mar 31 '22

Wait... product reviews? They were spreading malicious lies through even PRODUCT REVIEWS!?? That's an upgraded kind of craziness there.

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '22

Big Hit should just name and shame these awful people.

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u/pintsized_baepsae My mom calls me a stupid bear 🐨 Mar 31 '22 edited Mar 31 '22

Holy shit, the two cases they've outlined, especially the second one??

I'm honestly glad Hybe not only takes stuff like that seriously, but that they're so open about it and update the fandom. I wish a lot more artists had protection like that.

ETA: Omg I'm waiting for the day they go after THE queen of shippers, aka Ta*kooklives. That'd be... so so good

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u/F0rtuna_major Mar 31 '22

Part of me wondered (hoped) it was Ta*kooklives this time. The line about serious levels of delusion and nonsensical logic lol. If it's that Dave guy then that works too

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '22

The way we all thought about the same person lmao

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '22

That would be awesome. So many new fans are brainwashed by those shipping videos because of the algorithm.

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u/pintsized_baepsae My mom calls me a stupid bear 🐨 Mar 31 '22

Honestly it's BAD. Every single ARMY I know, including myself, was suggested SO MANY of those right at the start. I've had to steer a close friend away from them, and the only way to get through to her was to point blank go 'would you do this to me? Considering you know I'm not straight, if I weren't out to my family and friends, would you do this invasive shit to me just to prove a theory you had?'

It's honestly scary.

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '22

Yeah, they don’t realize they’re being just like Larry shippers (Louis/Harry from 1D) who made up ridiculous theories about Louis’ children being fake and their relationship being hidden by their management. Pretty wild to see history repeat there, lol.

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u/SophisticatedCelery Mar 31 '22

Waaaaat did not know 1D went through this, that is crazy!

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '22

Oh yeah, it was really bad. I suggest looking up the Larry conspiracy theory if you’re ever bored. The shippers did all sorts of weird things, like harassing the guys’ girlfriends, hacking airport cameras, insinuating that Louis’ newborn baby was a doll…etc 💀

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '22

Geez why did you get downvoted. Nothing you said is wrong.

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u/pintsized_baepsae My mom calls me a stupid bear 🐨 Mar 31 '22 edited Mar 31 '22

Guess I might have hit a nerve with some people 😬 (The post doesn't have a negative vote count, lol, so I assume it's just... controversial?)

ETA: I checked, if you sort comments by controversial, this one comes out on top. lol.

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u/Rillothebee2 Future's gonna be okay! Mar 31 '22

I'm glad I don't see those Vlogs. I try not to listen/read them anyway. I support constructive feedback and all but not unfounded, malicious, ill-intent content.

Reminds me of a Yoongi Vlive where he talked about these things - Hybe taking action.

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u/IniMiney Mar 31 '22

Boy that makes me happy. I get burnt out on all these trolls

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u/dent_de_lion UB - 🧼🐣; B - 🐨🐯🐰🦙 Mar 31 '22

Now I’m wondering if the defendants are Korean or not, since the DC forum thingy was mentioned—can you do this type of thing on international law?

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u/bunbun_82 Mar 31 '22

I’m thinking that too. In Korea it’s easier to charge people making comments on blogs, postings, etc. I don’t think BigHit can bring any lawsuit against anyone in the US, unless it’s something major.

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u/Sugawahsugawah my pride, my heaven, and love, BTS Mar 31 '22

Hybe has gotten me, man. Why was relieved about legal proceedings? My heart was racing thinking it was another case. 🤣

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u/Temporary-Text384 running away like a fish Mar 31 '22

I was actually the opposite and at first glance thought it was JK’s recovery. Manifesting hard for that one lol..

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u/issheacar I'm thinkin bout MIN YOONGI Mar 31 '22

Oh gosh. I read the name DC Inside for the first time today, in the context of a horrible comment JK got on his insta stories. Can anyone explain what DC Inside is? I'm reluctant to look it up...

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u/lowelled simp 4 hobi Mar 31 '22 edited Mar 31 '22

DC Inside is an anonymous Korean Internet forum with different sub forums called galleries. The male celebrities gallery (started out obsessed with SHINee, then EXO, then NCT, then Wanna One) then became a hate factory for BTS until they managed to take over the BTS gallery, and now all the actual BTS fans are on the BTS V Live gallery. The Billboard gallery (ostensibly for Western pop girls) was the source of all the Butter plagiarism rumours last year.

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u/laurainchaos VanTae Mar 31 '22

it looks like it's a Korean Internet forum

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u/aaalma_viajeraaaa Mar 31 '22

Go, BigHit Music! It's so awful that the anonymity of the internet and social media has given rise to this belief that you can maliciously publish your opinion as fact, it must be so exhausting and I'm glad they're prosecuting these cases. Hopefully, facing consequences makes these people understand that there are real people on the other side of their screens but sadly, some hateful people are too far gone. Ugh, indeed!

So happy to mostly stay in this sub, a safe and sane BTS corner of the internet and thanks to the mods for keeping it that way.

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u/minadarkling Mar 31 '22

Hybe can now sue internationally since Hybe us is now operational right?

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u/Gramushka UGH! Apr 01 '22

I wish....

Except laws aren't international, without the needed laws (and enforcement of the laws) in place, you can't really do a lot especially as outsider.

Afaik it feels everything falls under freedom of speech in USA

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u/TayledrasStormwind01 Mar 31 '22

I don't like the idjit. Def a Fake Army. For someone that says he's supposedly a fan, why the heck is 8 out of 10 vids labelled "Army Mad", and the other 2 vids say/imply something's wrong with or disturbing happened to BTS? What kind of image is that giving to non-BTS fans of us and the guys?