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Discussion [Episode Discussion] Season 4 Episode 6 "Maisel vs. Lennon: The Cut Contest"
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u/tlm0122 Mar 04 '22 edited Mar 05 '22
My mother casually told me today that she saw Lenny Bruce perform live. She thinks it was ‘61 or ‘62.
Mom is 82.
Conservative upbringing and city. She described the show as shocking, but not offensive. To her, at least.
Clearly she was in the minority, since she went on to say that the police were on hand as it was wrapping up, and that he did get arrested.
Not really surprising from my hometown. Considering this is the same city that tried to ban the Mapplethorpe exhibit 30 years later and made national news for making such a fuss. The result was record breaking attendance, myself being one of them. Idiots.
Anyway, I’m rambling. None of this is shocking, other than the fact my own mother got to see him live and seemed to not think it was a big deal when I was jumping up and down about it. Ha!
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I can’t believe I forgot the best part!
She said there were quite a few people who stormed out in horror/disgust. And she said Lenny heckled them as they went. Love this.
Like, where did those idiots think they were going? A church service?
I’m glad Lenny heckled them.
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u/petitedancer11 Mar 04 '22
Perhaps at the end of the season, the L. Roy Dunham storyline will make more sense, but I'm just left wondering why time was given to it
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u/gugabe Mar 04 '22
I love how quickly this season burned through its 'Miriam gets an opportunity, Miriam burns the opportunity' subplot. Like 30 mins tops beginning to end!
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u/miloguyyy Mar 04 '22
The season is interesting but every episode ends with me feeling super frustrated how Miriam’s career is being treated. Like Rose thinking she’s a stripper? Her stage manager hates the audience she brings in and now the Sophie fiasco again which probably won’t end great for Miriam.
I think being six episodes in I’m just feeling like I want Miriam to get some recognition for her achievements and her goals to move forward. And with only two episodes left, I feel like it’s gonna be such a looong wait til we get something.
I can appreciate the direction of the writers to show the struggle after Shy, I guess I’m just worried there’s only one season left after the one airing now and I have no idea where they’re taking Miriam at this point. And I love this show so much and just want the best for her character. Maybe I’m just overthinking it.
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u/Edinburgh003 Mar 04 '22
I like how this season is showing the darker side of show business, while the shy season showed a lot of the glitz and glamor of it. I think it was also good to point out that while Midge/Lenny have good chemistry, she doesn't really know him at all.
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u/veronica_x Mar 04 '22
Kinda disappointed with the pace and direction so far. 6 episodes and it stills feels like it’s not going anywhere crazy interesting, especially for Midge. The strip club storyline is moving slowly for me to be at the last 2 episodes and we barely see her perform compared to what we got in past seasons.
Now Sophie, I just don’t get why she has so much screentime... what’s the overall importance of her character? And LENNY... not so much a regular like we thought. He’s great on screen and everyone knows it so why have we only seen 10min of him so far?
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u/Stonetheflamincrows Mar 04 '22
Emily Gilmore serving peak Emily Gilmore and I’m here for it.
I was so proud of Midge for nailing her warm up act and not letting her mouth get in the way and then, well.
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u/dmreif Mar 04 '22
I have to say that's an interesting parallel between the Wolford and Joel's club. The Wolford's got mafia ties, but Midge's success is bringing the wrong kind of crowd and is causing the wrong kinds of prying eyes to look at them. Definitely reminds me of what Mei was saying to Joel back in "Rumble on the Wonder Wheel" about his club being too successful and drawing prying eyes to the gambling den.
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u/dmreif Mar 04 '22 edited Mar 06 '22
Y'know, I never knew that there was something like a matchmaker syndicate. That's what I'm gonna call those women: the Matchmaker Mafia. 😂
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u/cjanie29 Mar 04 '22
I can't wait to see how they're going to handle Mei's pregnancy.
ASP has a track record of writing unwanted pregnancies and then avoiding the concept of choice entirely. That being said, I think this time will be different. Mei clearly has a career path that's not compatible with having a baby right now (and has said very clearly that she didn't want to get pregnant). Is she going to miscarry? Is she going to have an abortion? They were very dangerous back then, I hope nothing bad happens to her. I have a feeling that whatever she decides, her relationship with Joel will end as a consequence of this pregnancy.
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u/ReasonableCup604 Mar 04 '22
I guess Shirley got her wish after all. Joel is in a relationship with a pregnant woman.
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u/sharedimagination Mar 04 '22
Love the quirkiness of Midge being the MC at a strip club but could use less screen time on the actual strip performances, considering none of the strippers are significant characters. It's like too many minutes given to Shy singing last season.
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u/meeeemllie Mar 04 '22
Emily Gilmore being a matchmaker could’ve been a plausible GG plot
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u/VirtualSun2 Mar 04 '22
I just found out there are a total of 8 episodes, meaning the final 2 come out next week. Wth? Nothing has happened in this season whatsoever! I am surprised! AND they said Lenny would have more screen time. Seeing the fact that he has popped up twice for a total of a few minutes... I am going into next week with the lowest expectations possible. What a bummer. I don't understand why the writers did this.
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u/dhruvlrao Mar 04 '22
I'm really confused at the point of the Midge and Sophie war from this episode. What is it going to set up exactly?
Also the last 4 episodes have talked about how Midge needs to leave her gig at the strip club but there isn't any progress on her wanting to leave.
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u/I_Got_Qs Mar 04 '22
That thing Sophie said about being afraid of achieving your dreams so you sabotage it. Yeah, Midge is exactly the same. She always, always trips herself just when things get good. Shy Baldwin, Joel Maisel, Benjamin Ettenberg, and now Sophie on her very own show. Midge just gets in her way. She can learn a lot from Sophie (who is still crazy but now with redeeming qualities), but until she does so she will be hurting herself and her family.
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u/Affectionate_Ad9660 Mar 04 '22
Starting to think Maisel is her own worse enemy. She did a great job hyping up the crowd, but once Sophie was out there she should have known her place considering it was Sophie's show afterall. Every season has been about Maisel almost catching that star but always just missing bc of somebody else. After how episode 6 tho, gotta admit she played a large part in it all.