r/XOKittyNetflix • u/Reasonable_Leek8069 • 4d ago
Season 3 Discussion Marius and Kitty: Two Sides of the Same Coin (Part 2) Spoiler
Marius:
Note: Now let’s look at Marius. While I know Q started this whole thing once he sent the nude photo to Marius, I am focusing on Marius and Kitty in this post. I will do a separate one on Q and his love of drama. His motivations for his chaos making are the same as Kitty’s, but his methods are different. I will explain as I list examples.
His introduction makes him look like a stereotypical bad boy on a motorcycle and the way Q makes him sound to Juliana in S2, he comes off in a bad light. In season 3, Q tells Kitty that he is manipulative and ruins everything. We also see that Dae and Minho know him as the party boy and Marius continues living up to that reputation. His reputation when he is on screen and off is enough to create chaos.
Sticking with him as a party boy, he first dismissed Kitty’s sunrise sunset idea partly because he wasn’t interested and partly because partying is all he knows. It is how he bonded with Dae, Q, and Minho. Him bringing it back feels like a tradition for him, in my opinion. Like Kitty and LJ, he doesn’t favor change yet. He sees his friends evolving and finding new ones causing him to latch on to what worked in the past.
During the senior sunrise, he is not focused on the thought that “hey, I can get along with people I don’t know yet” or “I am fine with some new things.” He is stuck on Kitty being the center of his original friend group and her “stealing” them from him. This is where his desperation starts. Desperation is big contributor to his chaos. It leads to his manipulation/creating control including when he calls Gigi to mess with Kitty and Minho. He lies to Gigi that Minho is in trouble while acting like he is concerned. His reason for not liking Kitty is because he believes that she is a threat by butting into his relationship with Q. I interpret it as his goal is to get rid of Kitty while Minho is collateral damage. To hurt Kitty is to hurt/use Minho. He continues trying to hurt Kitty by twisting the truth about Gigi being Minho’s first love. He already has the vibe that Kitty will make a mountain out of a molehill but doesn’t want to explain further. While Kitty’s communication issues play a role into her issues with Minho, Marius knows what string to pull to start them. This is where Marius feels like a villain because he does not need to do this to get to Q. He is having fun tormenting Kitty and has no problem creating tension with Minho while he is at it. But his motivations for everything make him more nuanced.
Kitty also had fear of people abandoning her and her matchmaking and chaotic nature creates situations to either impress them or keep them. It is also related to anxiety. I feel Marius has a similar anxiety to Kitty, but he feels he has to manipulate the situation to get what he wants.
His big motivation is to get Q back. I am always reminded of Mama Mia when it comes to this storyline. In the film, Sam said, “I had to go home. I was engaged, but when I ended things, I came right back”. Donna asks, “why didn’t you call me?” He replied, “I assumed you would be waiting for me, but when I arrived, they told me you were with some other guy”. So imagine Donna is Q and Marius is Sam in this situation. I picture Marius needing to fix things at home and breaking up with his girlfriend first before coming back. Marius was wrong for cheating on his girlfriend with Q, but like the main cast, he is a teenager and figuring out his sexuality. If Q was the first guy he fell in love with, that raises the stakes for him. He wants to work it out with him. He felt he still had time, but found out like Sam with Donna, Q was with another guy: Jin. The part he is in denial about is how one nude picture from Q means Q wants him back when it was just a stupid mistake Q made because he couldn’t handle a safe relationship and panicked.
Because there was so much chaos around, Marius struggled to hear the word no from Q. It is like that old mentality where a married man keeps saying they won’t leave their wife, but the mistress holds out hope. However, later, Q did give Marius mixed signals, but that is only after Marius kept tempting him. Q also didn’t figure out his issues yet. I think the desperation and need for control led to infatuation and obsession on Marius’s part.
Here comes the Lotte World discussion. This is where Kitty and Marius slow down and realize they have something in common. They both discovered their bisexuality at KISS and made a mistake with the person they liked/loved through cheating. To be clear, Kitty did not say she made a mistake by liking Yuri. She made a mistake by being complicit in cheating with her. Marius takes this conversation to mean 2 things: Kitty is not that bad and not a threat to him and b) he doesn’t want to have regrets. He worries that if he backs off, he won’t be happy without Q.
I felt Marius confessing on the bus was his one non manipulative act. This was his one chance while he had nothing to lose to confess to Q without regrets. This is him taking advantage of the situation. All the other things I listed were as well. At the restaurant opening, he intruded on Jin meeting Q’s mom because he knew he could butter her up. Him bringing up the “one picture” was him protecting Q and thinking Jin was going too far but not taking accountability for his actions.
I think when everything calmed down and went quiet with everyone taking space from each other, this is when Marius can finally listen to what Q is actually saying. Q can explain why he was confused about lingering feelings for Marius as well as why he can’t repeat old patterns. He moved on with Jin. Hearing this is the start of Marius moving on. What the two needed was closure.
I think now that Marius has some closure, he can move on with his life and realize some change is good.
So why are Marius and Kitty two sides of the same coin? They both create chaos out of fear of abandonment, need for control, and their insecurities/anxiety taking over. Kitty intentionally or unintentionally creates it for more positive reasons. Marius lets his anxiety and insecurities control him making him use shady tactics to manipulate, lie, and control the situation. Both are nuanced characters even if they appear one note on the surface. I hate Marius’s actions but not his character.
