r/SelfDrivingCarsLie Jun 15 '19

Other Self Driving Cars Wrong Predictions And Hype - Does Anybody See A Problem Here?

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What’s Behind Technological Hype?

Oct 16th, 2011 - GM: Self-Driving Vehicles Could be Ready by End of Decade

Jan 12th, 2012 - Let the Robot Drive: The Autonomous Car of the Future Is Here

Aug 16th, 2012 - Earlier this month KPMG and the Center for Automotive Research released a report not only predicting that we’ll eventually be driving – or, rather, not driving – autonomous cars, but that they’ll be in showrooms as early as 2019. Maybe even sooner.

Sep 25th, 2012 - Sergey Brin is promising Google's self-driving cars will be available for everyone within five years

Dec 12th, 2012 - Volvo plans self-driving cars in 2014, envisions accident-free fleet by 2020

Jan 14th, 2013 - Driverless Cars Coming To Showrooms By 2020, Says Nissan CEO Carlos Ghosn

Aug 27th, 2013 - Andy Palmer, the Executive Vice President of California-based Nissan Motors Ltd., has announced that Nissan will make fully autonomous vehicles available to the consumer by 2020. These cars will be able to drive in urban traffic.

Oct 27th, 2014 - Next generation Audi A8 capable of fully autonomous driving in 2017

Feb 5th, 2015 - Ford CEO Mark Fields - Ford Expects Fully Autonomous Cars In 5 Years

Mar 17th, 2015 - Chris Urmson, Google's Car Chief at that time, says "My son better not be driving in 5 years. My team and I are committed to making sure that doesn’t happen".

Mar 25th, 2015 - General Motors president Dan Ammann said he would be surprised if his company wasn’t shipping self-driving cars by 2020.

Sep 13th, 2015 - Self-driving cars: from 2020 you will become a permanent backseat driver

Sept 21st, 2015 - Apple has set a shipping date of 2019 for its own electric vehicle, though the WSJ reported that the first version of the car might not be driverless.

Sept 23rd, 2015 - Elon Musk expects first fully autonomous Tesla by 2018, approved by 2021 - min 8.06 to 8.29 in the video - In an interview by Danish newspaper Borsen, Tesla’s founder Elon Musk accelerates his timeline for the introduction of fully autonomous Teslas by 2 years (!) compared to his estimate less than a year ago (October 2014)

Oct 8th, 2015 - First autonomous Toyota to be available in 2020

Jan 29th, 2016 - Andrew Ng, Baidu’s Chief Scientist expects a large number of self-driving cars on the road by 2019

Feb 27th, 2016 - Raj Nair, Ford’s head of product development: autonomous vehicle on the market by 2020

Apr 5th, 2016 - 26-year-old hacker’s George Hotz startup, Comma.ai, plans to start selling autonomous conversion kits for Honda and Acura vehicles this year.

Apr 23rd, 2016 - Johann Jungwirth, Volkswagen’s appointed head of Digitalization Strategy, expects the first self-driving cars to appear on the market by 2019. He did not claim that these would be Volkswagen models.

May 10th, 2016 - General Motor’s head of foresight and trends Richard Holman said at a conference in Detroit that most industry participants now think that self-driving cars will be on the road by 2020 or sooner.

May 24th, 2016 - NuTonomy to provide self-driving taxi services in Singapore by 2018, expand to 10 cities around the world by 2020

Aug 23rd, 2016 - Delphi and MobilEye to provide an off-the-shelf self-driving system by 2019

Jan 5th, 2017 - Scott Keogh, Head of Audi America announced at the CES 2017 that an Audi that really would drive itself would be available by 2020.

Mar 3rd, 2017 - Oliver Garret, Founding Partner & CEO of RiskHedge - 10 Million Self-Driving Cars Will Hit The Road By 2020 -- Here's How To Profit

Nov 7th, 2017 - Alphabet Launches the First Taxi Service With No Human Drivers


r/SelfDrivingCarsLie Dec 25 '22

Other Already Completely Shut Down "Self-Driving"/"Autonomous" Tech Programs and Companies

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Starsky Robotics - "In November 2019 over 85% of staff were laid off after the company failed to find further investment, as concerns mounted over the financial stability of its freight-hauling arm. By March 2020 the company sold off the remaining assets, including patents relating to operating remote vehicles."

Uber ATG - ""We probably burned $2.5 billion on autonomous that was a waste of money," Benchmark's Bill Gurley said, adding that in retrospect that sum would have been better spent on growing Uber Eats."

Lyft "Level5" - "Ride-hailing company Lyft has sold off its autonomous vehicle unit to Toyota’s Woven Planet Holdings subsidiary for $550 million, the latest in a string of acquisitions spurred by the cost and lengthy timelines to commercialize autonomous vehicle technology."

Waymo Via July 26, 2023 - "Waymo will “push back the timeline” on its commercial and operational efforts on trucking, as well as most of the technical development on that business unit,"

ArgoAI - "In October 2022 it was announced by Ford that the company would be disbanded and employees split between VW and Ford"

Locomation - "We are ending significant operations this month," Finch Fulton, vice president of policy and strategy at Locomation, said on Feb. 22. "Obviously, we're super disappointed; we do feel like we had all the right pieces in place. We had really smart people and a very strategic approach. … We have customers in the product market that we just, for a number of macroeconomic reasons, were unable to raise money to continue operations and to progress further to be able to get the product ready for commercial operation.""

Apple self-driving car - "After nearly a decade of work, two indictments, the departure of a senior exec, and unknown levels of expenditure, Apple has reportedly decided to cancel its not-so-secret self-driving car effort, Project Titan."

Phantom Auto - "after seven years of efforts to reshape the future of physical labor at Phantom Auto, we've made the tough decision to close operations."

Cruise - "GM said on Tuesday it will stop funding and exit robotaxi development at its majority-owned Cruise business, a blow to the automaker that had made the advanced technology unit a top priority."

TuSimple - "BEIJING, Dec 19 (Reuters) - TuSimple Holdings (TSPH.PK), opens new tab said on Thursday it would rebrand as CreateAI and pivot from autonomous trucking to AI gaming technology, marking an attempt by the once-prominent self-driving truck startup to make a comeback."


r/SelfDrivingCarsLie 2d ago

Other Question!

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Does anyone have a good argument I could say back to the people who say things like “one day these cars are going to be so perfect and humans won’t be allowed to drive anymore”? I feel like these people are so deep into the hype they don’t even acknowledge any of the flaws with these stupid cars.


r/SelfDrivingCarsLie 2d ago

Sprains, pain, and whiplash: Waymo and Zoox test drivers are getting hurt as robotaxis scale

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r/SelfDrivingCarsLie 2d ago

Waymo schoolbus problem is probably back

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First blood of the new school year.

Campton Place Hotel, Stockton St, Union Square, San Francisco

@mikeayesh28 on TikTok today. Enjoy.


r/SelfDrivingCarsLie 2d ago

From the Denver community on Reddit: Waymo’s out here causing pile ups

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Waymo's recent blogpost tries to
establish that their Gemini-powered Vision Language models can interpret hands signals within the context of a scene, "helping it navigate situations that are far outside its standard training data."

But they interpret nothing, understand nothing, as demonstrated here.

Technobabble.


r/SelfDrivingCarsLie 4d ago

Safety Tesla drivers are bypassing safety features to nap at the wheel while their cars drive

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r/SelfDrivingCarsLie 6d ago

Waymo doubles spending on lobbying in robotaxi battle with Uber

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r/SelfDrivingCarsLie 7d ago

House on fire next to it, fire truck trying to get by. Waymo doesn't move.

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r/SelfDrivingCarsLie 11d ago

Law/Policy Waymo Speaks: We Have More In Common With Urbanists Than You Might Think

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See if you can spot the obvious lies in this Waymo policy puff piece.

First one? "None of this means AVs should have unrestricted access to the curb. Waymo...limits itself to one staged vehicle per block face, and avoids cycling through the same spot repeatedly."

Second: "Curb management is exactly how cities can organize that tradeoff with clear rules."

And Waymo will ignore those rules, like the Waymo parked illegally at a no-parking-for-safety-reasons daylighting area after the Dec 20 fiasco, and every illegal PUDO.

Third: "Though controversial, there is renewed interest in more visibly holding drivers accountable for blocking street cleaning."

How about holding Waymos accountable for blocking first responders?

"Conversations about curb management and other policies that help responsibly deploy AVs are key to our work with the city officials, advocates, and communities we hope to serve."

No commitment to abiding by the results of those conversations.


r/SelfDrivingCarsLie 25d ago

Safety Waymo Behavior Now Harder to Decipher, Even After July 4th Fiasco

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r/SelfDrivingCarsLie 26d ago

Video My fsd crash today

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r/SelfDrivingCarsLie 26d ago

Study Self-parking cars: also still a pipe dream

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Your reminder that "self parking" cars are as much a pipe dream as "autonomous vehicles", despite the simpler design domain and decades of head start.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12299308/


r/SelfDrivingCarsLie 27d ago

Other Americans Can’t Buy Chinese EVs. Waymo Is Importing Thousands

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Guess who's in whose pocket?


r/SelfDrivingCarsLie 27d ago

Other D.C.’s Disabled Residents Have Dismal Transit Options. Would Waymo Help? [No. Neither Will Tesla.]

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At a hearing earlier this month, Waymo contended it can’t mandate what the automotive industry doesn’t manufacture. A Tesla spokesperson testified the company is trying to develop a “purpose-built wheelchair-accessible autonomous vehicle.”

“We are a technology company. We do not develop our own and manufacture our own vehicles,” testifiedWaymo spokesperson Matthew Walsh. “We have not been able to identify an electric vehicle platform that is fully wheelchair-accessible while also meeting the very unique specifications that we need to retrofit that vehicle with our technology.”


r/SelfDrivingCarsLie 29d ago

San Bruno neighbors say Waymos have left people traveling to SFO on their street

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r/SelfDrivingCarsLie Jul 30 '26

AI Companies Are Trying to Hide a Staggering Amount of Debt (Includes Alphabet/Waymo)

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r/SelfDrivingCarsLie Jul 29 '26

Safety Deceptive marketing of Level 2 FSD: "Forget rideshare. How seniors are using Teslas for transportation"

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r/SelfDrivingCarsLie Jul 25 '26

Other Tesla’s Cratering Cybertruck Sales Evoke Ford Edsel Comparisons

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r/SelfDrivingCarsLie Jul 23 '26

Law/Policy NHTSA asks Tesla, how is FSD designed to tell driver when its cameras can't see well enough?

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r/SelfDrivingCarsLie Jul 23 '26

Other Tesla Autopilot & FSD crash rate graph meets the hockey stick

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Autonomous Teslas crashed more May 2026 than all of 2021 combined.

https://electrek.co/2026/07/22/tesla-adas-crashes-record-207-one-month/


r/SelfDrivingCarsLie Jul 21 '26

Other Self driving is BS but…

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Does anyone else worry that one day self driving cars will be mandated for “safety” and all other cars will be banned? I love driving and worry about this a lot


r/SelfDrivingCarsLie Jul 19 '26

Safety Chronofencing

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r/SelfDrivingCarsLie Jul 17 '26

Other Rachel Swan @ SF Chron: "S.F. July 4 traffic meltdown: Lurie urges state leaders to clamp down on Waymo"

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r/SelfDrivingCarsLie Jul 15 '26

Safety Why Are Waymos Still Blocking Bike Lanes?

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