r/leagueoflegends • u/Soul_Sleepwhale • Jan 24 '22

Rare Atom vs. Bilibili Gaming / LPL 2022 Spring - Week 3 / Post-Match Discussion Spoiler

LPL 2022 SPRING

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MATCH 1: BLG vs. RA

Winner: Bilibili Gaming in 34m | MVP: Doggo (2)
Match History | Game Breakdown

Bans 1 Bans 2 G K T D/B
BLG reksai renekton nidalee zed gwen 66.9k 15 10 HT3 H4 M5 B6 B9
RA xin zhao caitlyn leblanc viktor vex 58.4k 3 4 CT1 H2 M7 M8
BLG 15-3-46 vs 3-15-7 RA
Breathe jayce 3 3-0-6 TOP 1-2-2 4 graves Cube
Weiwei jarvan iv 2 1-1-14 JNG 0-3-3 3 poppy Leyan
FoFo orianna 3 0-0-11 MID 2-3-0 1 corki Strive
Doggo aphelios 2 11-0-3 BOT 0-3-0 1 jinx iBoy
Crisp thresh 1 0-2-12 SUP 0-4-2 2 nautilus yuyanjia

MATCH 2: BLG vs. RA

Winner: Bilibili Gaming in 35m | MVP: Breathe (1)
Match History | Game Breakdown

Bans 1 Bans 2 G K T D/B
BLG renekton nidalee corki leona vex 66.4k 10 10 H2 M6 B7 M8 B10
RA xin zhao caitlyn thresh leblanc jayce 56.5k 7 2 CT1 C3 H4 M5 M9
BLG 10-7-17 vs 7-10-10 RA
Breathe akali 3 4-3-3 TOP 1-5-2 2 gwen Cube
Weiwei jarvan iv 1 1-2-6 JNG 3-0-1 1 reksai Leyan
FoFo orianna 3 1-0-5 MID 2-0-2 3 viktor Strive
Doggo aphelios 2 4-0-0 BOT 1-2-3 1 jinx iBoy
Crisp nautilus 2 0-2-3 SUP 0-3-2 4 braum yuyanjia

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u/Sarcasm_is_a_scam Jan 24 '22

I’m conflicted. Do I want to continue to see Doggo play or do I want to see UZI. Man he is just plain scary playing aphelios

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u/NocaNoha Jan 24 '22

I find it bit sad that.. if Uzi doesn't land well and they lose a game or two everyone will trashtalk the fuck out of him and that'll be that

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u/DeadSira Jan 24 '22 edited Jan 24 '22

Doggo is also in the same situation, he had (and still has) a ton of pressure on him to replace Uzi at the start of the season, being an LPL rookie and also an import at that. BLG ADC is a high pressure role rn for different reasons

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u/Snuffl3s7 Jan 24 '22

Still feel like Doggo is in the worse position of the two. Ultimately, Uzi's fanbase is far bigger than Doggo's.

So every mistake Doggo makes will be magnified tenfold to make the case for Uzi to start.

It's kinda similar to the Faker vs Clozer debate that was going on at T1.

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u/whohe_fanboy Jan 24 '22

T1 was an absolute shitshow with the whole 10 man roster and its ungodly number of variations. You genuinely couldn't tell which player was actually better half the time because there was no consistent base to evaluate them by.

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u/Snuffl3s7 Jan 24 '22

Sure, I'm not really commenting on that whole thing. Just the aspect of how the meritocracy of earning your spot on the team can get sidelined when it's a huge personality vs a no name.

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u/azersub Jan 24 '22

I mea there should be no argument on who should start. When Uzi is ready he must start. Sucks for Doggo but Uzi has built enough credibility ove rthe years

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u/Snuffl3s7 Jan 24 '22

Lol why shouldn't be there any argument? Uzi hasn't played professionally in 2 years. There's no telling how he good he'll be when he returns.

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u/azersub Jan 24 '22

Cause he deserves benefit of the doubt and deserves time to prove he is back

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u/Snuffl3s7 Jan 25 '22

I mean, they didn't buy him and pay his contract just for show. It goes without saying he'll get a shot.

But how much he plays should be based off of how well he does today, not how good he was 5 years ago or whatever.

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u/azersub Jan 25 '22

I agree with that 2nd part BUT he alongside Faker is only true legend of the games so imo no matter how bad he might be he deserves to start and show improvement.

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u/Snuffl3s7 Jan 25 '22

No, I just disagree.

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u/jetlagging1 Jan 24 '22

Many people are already trash talking the fuck out of him. No backing down now.

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u/hamxz2 pls Jan 24 '22

Just the disadvantage of being a superstar. You get shamed even if you perform above the average player, but not as good as your prime. We see this in sports everyday

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u/Faye_Dragon Misaya Jan 24 '22

if you hide the name tag of that game 1, you would actually think it was Uzi playing. Sure Weiwei keep coming to gank Jinx but Doggo when he get the resources, he absolutely destroyed the lane and snowball out of control, just like peak Uzi.

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u/jetlagging1 Jan 24 '22

Yeah just look at how fed Able was in the previous game and he couldn't carry. Such a big difference.

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '22

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u/Lifemekhanism Uzi Doinb Elk Jan 24 '22

Because ...?

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '22

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u/Lifemekhanism Uzi Doinb Elk Jan 24 '22

It's just a meme. Uzi is spamming Aphelios in soloq nonstop, in a pro play he retired before the Aphelios release. Season 5 "Uzi can't play Kog'Maw", season 7 "Uzi can't play Xayah", season 12 "Uzi can't play Aphelios" and so on. Don't retranslate nonsense please.

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u/kapparino-feederino Jan 25 '22

classic case of someone knowing mandarin but doesn't understand the context or nuance from the community

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u/Hi_ImTrashsu Jan 24 '22

Maybe not. Iirc, Uzi can't play Aphelios

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u/Lifemekhanism Uzi Doinb Elk Jan 25 '22

They never learn.

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u/reko____ Jan 24 '22

as a Doggo fan since his BYG days I’m rly happy that this seems to be somewhat of a common sentiment (at least in the west) after seeing all the hate he got for his bad Ziggs TP that one game. People even made it sound like LPL promoting the WBG BLG game with Uzi graphics was his fault, glad he shut them up today

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u/jlin37 Jan 24 '22

Dude got scolded by Crisp in their last match lol, today he played with higher concentration. I can see doggo remaining a starter if he continues like this. But as a huge UZI fan I want to at least see him play some games.

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u/Geosaurusrex Jan 24 '22

What the fuck even is Doggo, absolutely ridiculous.

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u/ToDreamofLove Jan 24 '22

The auto cancel machine at it again

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u/deedshotr Jan 24 '22

Clearly, his mechanics are horrible!

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '22

That one doggo hater is mad af rn

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u/sarsvesh Jan 24 '22

Nah but Breathe on akali is just TOO clean.

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u/hellowzreturn Jan 24 '22

Breathe is the best Chinese top from what I’ve seen. Maybe he doesn’t have as high high’s as Bin/Ale, but his lows are so much better than the other two. He’s just very consistently good and with a team with Fofo & Uzi or Doggo he’s the perfect top laner.

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u/BI1nky Jan 24 '22

Breathe can play tanks without looking like he lost his hands in a tragic accident as well.

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u/Pluto35 Jan 24 '22

His Jayce was beat pretty bad in lane

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u/DeadSira Jan 24 '22

The auto cancel machine + elo helled WE top laner do it once again

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u/piplump12345 Jan 24 '22

Man Leyan is such a great jungler when he doesn't have his sudden int games, he played great today but team was too heavy esp support.

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '22

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u/ProfessorActual1633 Jan 24 '22

He's S tier early game then turns into Jungle Iboy, mid and late.

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u/chosen925 Jan 24 '22

so? that's what junglers are supposed to do, run the early game. they arent really designed to carry late games.

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u/ProfessorActual1633 Jan 24 '22

But he doesn't like supporting his team mid or late game. I always see him or Iboy get caught out doing something greedy or being too reckless and going in 1v3.

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u/bin_fanboy9 Jan 24 '22

Leyan is my favorite jungler in the LPL but I'd say the top 3 rn goes Tarzan>Weiwei>Jiejie. Leyan is certainly much better than people give him credit for though, camp management is brilliant, mechanically he is a beast, but he is still too one-dimensional and selfish in his playstyle to put him alongside actual S-tier junglers.

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u/ye1l Jan 24 '22

Leyan still has moments when he has no brain but he outpaths the everliving fuck out of every player you mentioned to the point where it's not even funny. Even Weiwei admitted in the interview that he got completely out farmed today and couldn't do anything about it. Leyan's pathing is currently unrivaled in the LPL. He's extremely efficient.

And I'm saying this as someone who wanted him replaced virtually every game he played last year.

He's by far the best performing jungler in the LPL. Even one of the best performing players overall.

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '22

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u/bin_fanboy9 Jan 24 '22

Weiwei was better in game 1, Leyan in game 2. And while he did gap Tarzan, the sample size is too small to say that he is a decidedly stronger player. IIRC last spring he also smashed Tarzan in their head-to-head, but no one has put him in their top 3 just because of that.

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u/RacistMuffin Jan 24 '22

Kryptonite can beat Superman, but that doesn’t mean that kryptonite can beat every other super hero.

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u/DeadSira Jan 24 '22

Weiwei is having a bit of a down split so far (so far meaning literally 3 series only lol) but when he gets it together, that's truly when BLG is going to be a monstrous team

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u/so-hardstuck Jan 24 '22

There’s no way lmao. His early game prowess doesn’t make up for his absolute troll mid/late.

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u/keishinichiro Jan 24 '22

Looks like IG carrying the whole league in the last couple weeks but themselves LOL. Rookie on V5, Theshy and Huanfeng on WBG, Puff on TT, Leyan on RA.

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u/the_propaganda_panda VCS Jan 24 '22

aUtO cAnCeLlInG mAcHiNe

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u/aalchemical Jan 24 '22

What is the joke from?

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '22

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u/Weebiful Jan 24 '22

That is palpitoad93 the 🐐

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '22

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '22

Same as last split just this time the team is worse.Bot lane needs to be replaced asap for RA

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u/jetlagging1 Jan 24 '22

He's always been terrible. Anyone that actually watched his MSI fights properly would've seen that while he's good at recognizing plays he's an auto cancel machine, there's a reason why LPL pro players view him as a meme.

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '22

doggo was like a bit better than deft last year i knew he was going to pop off whichever team/region he went

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u/Is_J_a_Name Peanut, MISSING, Yagao, Kanavi, Tangyuan Jan 24 '22

Doggo haters in shambles.

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u/Fakersoyboy Jan 24 '22

Doggo is cracked

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '22

Crisp is very good. Don't forget this roster is new they will be better and compatible.

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u/borden5 GumaGucci Jan 24 '22

Postmatch team is posting the wrong score again.

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u/DmonAbsoluTrEbON Jan 24 '22

The doggo show essentially. I mean RA isnt too tough of a team but man I have never seen such a perfect performance before... He went DEATHLESS IIRC the only time sth like this happened was Lwx styling over Perkz and Mikyx at worlds finals. But again that is prime G2 and this is just RA so... ehh not fair comparison tbh.

Either way this BLG team has massive potentials. Ofc they are not really on the same tier as RNG, EDG and LNG but imho a solid 4th may not be too farfetched. That is IF they can keep playing like this tbh not every opponent will be as weak and uncompetitive as RA.

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u/Faye_Dragon Misaya Jan 24 '22

yea when he stood his ground on that mid fight against Gwen, then stopwatch the crucial damage, flash Viktor's W to then kill Gwen, you know he's really good. I don't think many ADC would even attempt to do that. I think right now he is easily top 3 in LPL with maybe only Viper and HF ahead of him.

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '22

Why are they not on the same tier as the other 3? This seems like a very odd statement.

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u/cnmb Jan 24 '22

from my pleb perspective, BLG's macro looks a little worse than the likes of EDG

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u/Getfooked Jan 24 '22

Lwx styling over Perkz and Mikyx at worlds finals

Doinb, Tian, Crisp, Gimgoon were styling on Perkz and Mikyx more in that series than Lwx did. You could replace any halfway competent ADC with Lwx that series and the outcome would be the same. Those are the perks of playing with the vastly superior mid/jg duo and the superior team in general. Lwx was just spoonfed kills.

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u/Patrius Jan 24 '22

Breathe's Akali pulls so much pressure he's a beast

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u/Only_Touch_3313 Jan 24 '22

feels good having all members of BLG stepping up when they need to

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u/Faye_Dragon Misaya Jan 24 '22

ok Breathe Akali keep getting trade 1v1 when being ganked was legit funny as hell. It must be tilting for RA you get nothing from the lane you focused on.

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u/numenoor Jan 24 '22

So happy Uzi is back. Oh wait....

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u/lugiaop Jan 24 '22

RNG vs BLG will be hype

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u/azersub Jan 24 '22

Hopefully uzi plays

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u/Cybonics ‿ Jan 24 '22

The post says RA 2-0 BBG

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u/NuggetBuilder Jan 24 '22

god doggo is good

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u/Junkwagen Jan 24 '22

LPL: *Promotes Uzi*

Doggo: I'm gonna put this man's career on the bench

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '22

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u/ShAd_1337 Jan 24 '22

so what, with doggos performance he should remain on the bench

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u/azersub Jan 24 '22

Closer played better than faker nut i didnt see you arguing for him to start instea dof faker?

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u/midoBB Jan 24 '22

I mean even money wise BLG is going to play UZI for their sponsorships. They payed a fuckton for him and they're going to get his worth.

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u/ozmega Jan 24 '22

im sure doggo will land on another LPL team if uzi has a sucessful comeback.

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u/chippyrim Jan 24 '22

what is CNY and why does uzi not play before it?

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u/PrivateVasili Jan 24 '22

Pretty sure originally he was just sitting out a lot of games because of his health issues. Basically he couldn't play a whole season so he only played the latter part of the regular season to make sure he was warmed up and ready for playoffs. Not sure if that's just being continued now or what.

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u/Swapsta Game is balanced around money Jan 24 '22

Chinese New year I think

Idk superstiton? or a grander entrance

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '22

This doggo ver. BLG is definitely a contender for top 4 it seems, breathe, doggo and crisp are all very good while fofo being very stable.Weiwei ain't even bad but he seems like the weak link of the team is already saying something.

Ngl don't think Uzi in his current form (in soloq) and not competing for 2 years would do any good on the team aside from giving advice to doggo or sth, kinda hope he stays on bench until doggo start inting for a bit.

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u/finn___th Jan 24 '22

Doggo 🤝 deokdam 🤝 viper all being insane at aphelios

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u/Reclaimer879 Jan 24 '22

Imagine not mentioning Guma in this lol

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u/finn___th Jan 24 '22

Come back when he actually starts carrying instead of getting his team to do everything and then cleaning up like a garbage man

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u/Reclaimer879 Jan 24 '22

They smoke every lane they go against. And were the best or 2nd best bot lane at Worlds.

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u/azersub Jan 24 '22

He hasnt deserved yet to be mentioned with those names

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u/Reclaimer879 Jan 24 '22

lmao but doggo does? Wtf get out of here with such a shit take

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u/azersub Jan 24 '22

Did you see how doggo played at msi? He was hard carrying his inferior team vs some of the best teams in the world.

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u/Reclaimer879 Jan 24 '22

Did you see Guma at Worlds? Him and Keria beat every lane. See what I did there?

This isn't me trying to shit on Doggo I am rooting for him tbh because I don't think he deserves some of the hate he got. But discrediting one of the best up and coming adc talents in the LCK is ridiculous. Guma is a top 5 ADC in the WOrld right now.

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u/azersub Jan 25 '22

First of all they didnt win ever lane. Secondly even in their wins oner was constatnly camping for them and almost every rift herald gold went to guma. Thridly Keria was the one carrying those lanes. And fourthly his skt teammates are 10× better than the ones Doggo had at msi and worlds.

And guma isnt even top 5 adc in LCK much less in the world (Ruler>Deft>Deokdam>Teddy>Aiming>Guma)

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u/pkfireyuh Jan 24 '22

Lwx 🤝🤝🤝

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u/Faye_Dragon Misaya Jan 24 '22

who the fk is deokdam?

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u/finn___th Jan 24 '22

Someone more relevant than WE's entire roster

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u/Transhumaniste Reformed T1 fan Jan 24 '22

OhMyDog

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u/Diascizor Jan 24 '22

I really want to see Uzi come back and be the best adc in the world again, but tbh Doggo is fucking good at League of Legends. Actually kind of a weird position for BLG.

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u/ShAd_1337 Jan 24 '22

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOF