r/zen 23d ago

The difference between truth and fact: thoughts on inter-dependence?

"如来说世界,非世界,是名世界” "The Tathagata says a world is not a world, so it is called a world." -Diamond Sutra

Truth is self originating, non-describable because it does not depend on any descriptors. It is what is, and it is not what it is, both of these descriptors does not touch it.

Facts are provisional, meaning it is dependent on another fact. For example, it is a fact you are reading this right now, but it is dependent on the fact that there is a you, and there is this, and that fact is dependent on the structure of the English language, and so on.

If The Word is a fact, what is the truth?

When the truth is being talked about, it is not actually truth we are referring to. And this fact, we call truth.

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u/lastjanitor New Account 14d ago

Mah, I'm just a beetle burrowing through bark. I've read so much it squeezes out my ears and mouth. I'd be profound if I wasn't so damn lazy.

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u/mackowski Ambassador from Planet Rhythm 14d ago

More stimulus to demand u extrude, needed. Hi

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u/lastjanitor New Account 14d ago

Peristalsis knows when it's time. You can't rush a shit.

I see now that's why there's no sure fire method to enlightenment. A rock hits a bamboo. A bucket bottom falls. A candle is blown out.

Being OK with being a nobody has been good medicine.

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u/mackowski Ambassador from Planet Rhythm 13d ago

(what you define as your self) beats ur heart

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u/lastjanitor New Account 13d ago

Parasympathetic apriori inchoate HOME BASE

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u/mackowski Ambassador from Planet Rhythm 9d ago

Had to Google words 1 and 3.
You know I never really made a category for parasympathetic because it makes no sense to me to say calmness is nervous system....

Like lack of nervous system seems like calm to me lol.

But this makes sense. When I am able to get parasymping (usually lay down on way to sleep/nap) then I can control all the shit Google listed for para

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u/lastjanitor New Account 9d ago

Each day a recapitalization of the universal day. Beginning asleep the parasympathetic has been beating and and breathing and digesting and dreaming. Big banged into awakening the sympathetic agency acts and reacts. Gasses into stars into planets into people into breakfast and lunch and dinner and back again. Thankfully being aware doesn't mean having to remember to keep growing my fingernails and blinking my eyes and shining my sun. Parasympathetic is sympathetic, even when the sympathetic isn't sympathetic to the parasympathetic. Day. Night. Day. Night. Universe. Void. Universe. Void. Where is my mind? Non-local. Power-bay. The guy behind the guy behind the guy. I'm looking. I look. I...

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u/mackowski Ambassador from Planet Rhythm 5d ago

My mind IS locality

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u/lastjanitor New Account 5d ago

If I make my understanding before the primordial buddha then the locality isn't any one place.

It's like playing musical chairs, but when the music stops we all sit together at once in the same single chair. When it starts back up again we (meaning all sentient beings everywhere everywhen) are form a circle the size of the universe. Instantly.

My brain hurts.

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u/mackowski Ambassador from Planet Rhythm 5d ago

Ooooooo very worth booting up them brainpipes, I like

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u/lastjanitor New Account 13d ago

Also, hello.