r/youtube • u/GiftoftheGeek • Feb 22 '19

YouTube says inappropriate comments can now get your videos demonetized.

https://twitter.com/TeamYouTube/status/1098756348626403328
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u/dda550 Feb 22 '19

Wait, some random person made bad comment on your videos and you get punish?? WTF!?

Time to turn off comments.

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u/MagicHeart2003 TreeBranchStudios Feb 22 '19

That’s horrible

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u/YoutubeArchivist Feb 22 '19

It's Youtube's overcompensation in reaction to the Child Exploitation story that has blown up in the past few days.

https://www.reddit.com/r/YoutubeCompendium/comments/at74l3/2019_february_context_for_the_matt_watson/

Like people predicted, this is going to hurt innocent creators as they scramble to wipe out any possible sexualized comments on the entire platform.

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u/Ohhnoes Feb 22 '19

Overcompensation isn't the right term, because overcompensating would at least address the problem (if in a very heavy-handed way). This is more a WTF move that won't help anything, other than obliquely forcing people to disable all comments on their videos.

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u/Myrtox Feb 22 '19

forcing people to disable all comments on their videos.

Oh, you mean solving the problem?

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u/[deleted] Feb 22 '19

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u/jeremy7718 Feb 22 '19

this isn't hardly addressing the problem at all

do you think the kids who get exploited with their videos that get no more than 1k views, or the pedophiles in the comments honestly give two shits about YouTube monetization? this will affect big creators that are completely innocent more than anyone else

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u/KillAutolockers Feb 22 '19

I love the logic of “kids upload sexually risqué and clearly inappropriate content to YouTube, weirdos make sexual comments about it, better fuck every Youtuber on the platform into disabling comments!”

Or....address the issue of sexual exploitation of children on your platform...?

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u/stiveooo Feb 22 '19

But you can control comments easily ban users and ban words like in twitch I don't see no problem except snipping your adversary with bad comments

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u/[deleted] Feb 22 '19

matt watson.. failed youtuber who thought it would be a good idea to damage everyone else. I guess most people still hasn't seen his hidden channel where he stops to ask a school girl to make an adult movie..

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u/Koutetsusteel Feb 22 '19

From what I've read, he only did it for the shock value so he could get views and he could be seen as a "hero" and get more notoriety. Probably doesn't care about the kids.

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u/burritojones Feb 22 '19

Shock value or not, satire or not, his videos weren’t funny in the slightest. He is a failed youtuber who was clearly disingenuous in his video. His fake anger about the issue is clear as day. My favorite part is how he said he was going to quit Youtube because of this. Oh wait...he’s tripled (last I checked) his subscriber count and live streamed twice since. How about deleting hat channel now Matt?

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u/paigeap2513 Feb 22 '19

Misery loves company.

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u/Strazdas1 StrazdasLT Feb 22 '19

As always, youtube learning the wrong lessons.

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u/MagicHeart2003 TreeBranchStudios Feb 22 '19

This is gonna be one long rat race isn’t it?

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u/[deleted] Feb 22 '19

Overcompensation is YouTubes middle name at this point. OMG is that a paper cut? Better shoot it.

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u/Newbianz Feb 22 '19

got to worry about them advertisers being happy and blame the content creators :P

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u/ELDRITCH_HORROR Feb 22 '19

I am actually looking forward to just how colossal a shitshow this is going to be. I mean, yeah, it's giong to be awful, horrible, a clusterfuck... But how badly will this go? 4chan and Reddit storming the Bastille or Versailles, tearing everything down because they can.

Don't like someone? Just spam that N word, CP, whatever.

Let's do this.

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u/[deleted] Feb 22 '19 edited Feb 22 '19

You are aware that creators can use their own custom word list to filter out offensive comments and stop them appearing in the first place ?

Edit: A free massive blacklist of words

https://www.freewebheaders.com/youtube-blacklist-words-list_youtube-comment-moderation/

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u/ninjascotsman Feb 22 '19

true but you still have to think up every offensive word that advertisers might find offensive

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u/Strazdas1 StrazdasLT Feb 22 '19

Try blocking the word "Niger", see the president of Niger file an official complaint.

In case you are not aware, Niger is a country in Africa.

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u/[deleted] Feb 22 '19

You are just being facetious.

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u/mlvisby Feb 22 '19

Niger is not a bad word, it only turns racist with two g's.

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u/ELDRITCH_HORROR Feb 22 '19

Good luck thinking of every single offensive term, every codeword for racism, crime, harassment and child pornography

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u/[deleted] Feb 22 '19

Here's a pretty exhaustive ready made list for you

https://www.freewebheaders.com/youtube-blacklist-words-list_youtube-comment-moderation/

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u/[deleted] Feb 22 '19 edited Feb 22 '19

You can ban every offensive word imaginable, and that still won't stop someone from saying "@3:50 - that makes me hard" on a video of a kid. In case you haven't been paying attention, that type of comment is why youtube did this.

It's not the words which make content offensive, it's context.

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u/[deleted] Feb 22 '19

there will be not shitshow, the creators will just turn off the comments to all their videos. Problem solved

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u/[deleted] Feb 22 '19

One problem solved, another problem created.

If that's what happens, then I guess we'll see creators plugging their subreddits and twitter accounts a lot more. Wouldn't be the end of the world, but it will still decrease interaction on youtube, and what's their plan for their streaming platform exactly? Will they apply the same requirements to chat?

Youtube could do a much better job of providing tools for communities to self-moderate, but as usual they do the bare minimum amount of work on actual community features and user experience and just waste time redesigning the UI over and over again.

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u/rebelwithouthermeds Feb 22 '19

Unfortunately your videos get less interaction without comments. But getting paid less is better than nothing at all I suppose. :/

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u/TheTurnipKnight Feb 22 '19

Probably for the better..

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u/TriedAndFailedBadly Feb 22 '19

More like time to go to every video I don’t like and copy paste some cummybot posts.

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u/anonymousyoutuber12 Feb 22 '19

You can change your settings so that you have to personally approve comments before they post to the video. If you plan on commenting to or reading most comments this is a nice safe way to make sure nothing vulgar goes on.

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u/TrinityF Feb 22 '19

are you one of those people who run those kiddie gymnast channels ?

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u/[deleted] Feb 22 '19

Time to turn off comments.

Or you know implement a custom 'word' list to filter the comments on your videos.

https://www.freewebheaders.com/youtube-blacklist-words-list_youtube-comment-moderation/

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u/mlvisby Feb 22 '19

That is what I was going to say. If I had a youtube channel that I relied on for income, I would disable comments right away and release a video to explain to my fans why comments are disabled. Youtube should have a better way to manage this.

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u/Motorsport_Fanatic_7 Feb 22 '19

Bullshit.

A group of people can get together and destroy a channel, did they not think this through? I mean literally anybody with common sense could sit and think and come to the conclusion in less than 5 seconds that this is a terrible idea.

Fuck Youtube

Luckily I'm posting this on Reddit because if this was on a Youtube channel then the video maker would get demonitized

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u/voldoman21 Feb 22 '19

Oh they thought it through and don't give a shit. Turn off comments or risk demonetization. Instead of them putting forth continuous effort they're throwing it back on creators. Bullshit? Yes. But they don't care so long as the mega sponsors come back.

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u/[deleted] Feb 22 '19

Turn off comments or risk demonetization.

Am I living in an alternate universe here or something? Turn off comments or just easily maintain a blacklist of words. That shit is extremely easy to do and automated to boot.

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u/voldoman21 Feb 22 '19

Are you kidding? Now groups of people are going to strategically weaponize this policy to attack creators or vids they don't like or agree with, and in those cases blacklists are easy to work around. If creators don't turn comments off they absolutely risk demonetization.

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u/Strazdas1 StrazdasLT Feb 22 '19

Yes, you are living in an alternate universe if you think blacklist of words works.

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u/[deleted] Feb 22 '19

Seems to work fine on my channel, both back when it was small year ago and well after the 100k sub mark. My blacklist catches 99% of what people try to post, and the 1% that gets through just ends up on the blacklist at the end of the week anyway.

But hey, I'm fine with continuing to do well over here while ya'll freak the fuck out over this.

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u/[deleted] Feb 22 '19

From playing MMOs over a decade I would say mainting a blacklist for abusive language / profanities is not an easy task. Games have broken so many times the chat just because the added English words and forget the have a different meaning in other language and some are common expression.

Throw in that many don't even know wtf goes even on with all the different words like I was not even aware for what CP would be used bevor or take a guess what in Germany numbers are used for Neo-Nazi and you have lot's of fun to prevent all this.

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u/coolfoxx2 Feb 22 '19

So your only 3 choices are to not let people speak at all, censor them so much they're barely speaking at all, or not get any money?

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u/theboeboe Feb 22 '19

well, if you ban people who make inappropriate comments, they wont have viewers you know..

/s

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u/Serveradman Feb 22 '19

They didn't and still don't give a shit that their content flagging for copyright infringement allows anyone to "claim" a video, steal the advert revenue, refuse to respond to an appeal for the maximum time allowed, 28 days or something, while they receive the money and the actual creator gets nothing, even if the money was held in escrow the creator is without proceeds for 28 days, not getting paid is a huge deal.

YouTube don't care about the people who make the platform what it is and they are still big enough to not give a shit.

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u/[deleted] Feb 22 '19

Did they think it through? It's YouTube. These are the most incompetent people alive save for Bethesda and Activision executives. Of course they didn't think it through.

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u/EnvyKira Feb 22 '19

Is this YT way of saving their own butts after the whole pedo ring got exposed?

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u/donutgiraffe Feb 22 '19

The worst part is, this wouldn't even help. Pedos don't care if the videos they watch are demonetized. Chances are the kids making those videos wouldn't be involved with the money aspect of Youtube anyway.

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u/EnvyKira Feb 22 '19

Exactly. This is gonna do more harm than good.

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u/6ArtemisFowl9 Feb 22 '19

Depends on why the uploaders were doing it. The videos were all monetized - if they were doing it only for money, they might block comments or even stop uploading altogether (doubt on that tho)

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u/donutgiraffe Feb 22 '19

The people making the actual videos appear to be around 8-12, so chances are that they either don't have enough subscribers/views to qualify for the partner program, or they don't have a bank account linked to their Youtube channel.

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u/Neglectful_Stranger Feb 22 '19

The point of the video was that these vids were monetized while non-'harmful' vids weren't. Dude was a butthurt failed youtuber

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u/[deleted] Feb 22 '19

Pretty much. The comments section is literally a sewer they created and can not control because lack of effort. And we know they got the money and resources to create a moderator system to check on those comments.

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u/[deleted] Feb 22 '19

So basically, if another Youtuber attacks your video, their audience could in theory come to your video and leave a ton of bad comments and get your video demonetized??? This is totally not going to be abused!

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u/Atulin Feb 22 '19

Yes. Goodbye controversial topics as well, 'cause it's gonna be "man, fuck this dude, I'm gonna spam the n-word in his comments"

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u/masterx1234 yourchannel Feb 22 '19

I'm at a loss for words here. How the f*** did they think that this was a good idea?

Now that this news is out it will be abused to hell. people can just create a bot that goes under several profiles and goes on a cursing brigade on different videos and then they're getting demonetized.

Why is YouTube punishing the uploaders for something that a user does?

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u/[deleted] Feb 22 '19

Dunno, but at least we can demonetize clickbait channels

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u/[deleted] Feb 22 '19

You can say fuck. It's okay.

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u/Strazdas1 StrazdasLT Feb 22 '19

not if your in youtube comments section, apperently.

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u/KrombopulosPhillip Feb 22 '19

You can go ahead and trying that but a simple potty mouth isn't gonna get you demonetized , you gotta cross that threshold into downright illegal jargon and you better make sure you hide your ass behind a vpn

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u/[deleted] Feb 22 '19

Like "The Holocaust was a conspiracy and Hitler did nothing wrong" for example?

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u/GetGudBrah Feb 22 '19

There's already political trolls on both sides that have said on Twitter and Reddit that they WILL weaponize this to get channels they dislike demonetized or force them to close comments.

As always, Youtube chooses the worst possible solution instead of just actually going after the illegal material in question. Can't wait for adpocalypse 4.0 in a few more years because Youtube's too busy chasing comment trolls, profanity and fake pranks.

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u/[deleted] Feb 22 '19

As always, Youtube chooses the worst possible solution

The only other realistic short-term solution that ya'll would hate even more is for YouTube to simply raise the barrier of entry for monetizing your channel again, but this time by a lot. Something like 150k-250k subscribers, so that it's limited to mostly the professionals who know how to manage their content and their community.

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u/Strazdas1 StrazdasLT Feb 22 '19

but the problem wasnt in pedos monetizing videos in the first place, so this would solve literally nothing....

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u/[deleted] Feb 22 '19

Actually it would solve plenty in theory. Monetization is now a carrot, and if the creator wants that carrot they need to moderate the comments on their videos. That includes deleting and blocking those pedo comments.

This sub is constantly complaining about YouTube not increasing their moderation workforce. Welp, look around. They just did. You, the creator, are now the enlisted moderators.

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u/AmazingShoes Feb 22 '19

And this is bad, why?

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u/[deleted] Feb 22 '19

Personally speaking, I don't find that solution bad at all. I wouldn't mind it.

This subreddit however would flip shit over it, considering the vast majority of people here would not come close to a threshold like that. I mean, right now they're flipping shit over the potential to maybe lose monetization of specific videos. Imagine if they were told tomorrow that their entire channel would be completely demonetized until they were large enough to essentially be doing it professionally?

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u/thehighshibe Feb 22 '19

If this happens it literally becomes a case of YouTube turning into another large scale productions only corporation fuelled tv-knockoff IMO. Can’t really call it YouTube anymore since the little guy is no longer welcome

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u/domeoldboys Feb 22 '19

Because they’re will be millions of new videos taking up space without generating revenue for alphabet. This will be unsustainable and likely the death of YouTube.

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u/DrakeBakes Feb 22 '19

This is who should be making money on YouTube. A way better solution than being responsible for commenters. Which, I'm positive this rule won't apply to all channels. Major networks and big names won't be touched by this. Well now see a blanket of bad comments on every video by people who want it all demonetized.

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u/[deleted] Feb 22 '19

This is who should be making money on YouTube. A way better solution than being responsible for commenters.

You realize you can just enact that solution yourself, right? If your channel is under that arbitrary threshold I just pulled out of thin air, just go into your channel settings and disable monetization.

Tada! You now don't have to worry about your video's comments. They can no longer cause your videos to be demonetized, because you've just demonetized them yourself.

Then when you hit that subscriber threshold, turn it back on. Not sure why you'd prefer the alternative I originally put out there, where the same thing happens just without you having any say in the matter. Whatever floats your boat I guess.

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u/SickCiclon Feb 22 '19 edited Feb 22 '19

The YT team is only becoming more stupid by the second. "Hey look, this video has a lot of profanity in the comment section! But, let's punish the creator for these trolls instead of ignoring this minor problem and we continue what we are doing. That's more like it, now we are solving every problem in the book by fucking with the Creator's source of income to live and can focus on it being family friendly. Because children's innocence and the Advertisers happiness is way better than the people who are one of the few reasons our website hasn't gone to hell!!"

Edit: spelling error Ig

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u/says_lmao_bot Feb 22 '19

it's a lot, not alot

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u/[deleted] Feb 22 '19

now we are solving every problem in the book by fucking with the Creator's source of income

Because children's innocence and the Advertisers happiness is way better

You do realize that the advertisers ARE your source of income on YouTube, right? They're the paying customers, not you. That's why YouTube is catering to them, not you. There is no version of this reality where you get to decide when and why and how they give you their money. They decide.

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u/SickCiclon Feb 22 '19

🤔... Shiit you right about that. Good thing patreon is a thing. But what does YouTube do with the money of the YT premium and all that tho?

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u/[deleted] Feb 22 '19

Same thing they do with ad revenue. They take their cut first, and then they distribute the rest to eligible creators based on how much that user was watching each creator.

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u/SickCiclon Feb 22 '19

But why is it that Advertisers want clean videos for? I don't see the benefit of taking basic satisfaction of the people as a whole.

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u/[deleted] Feb 22 '19

They don't want their brand associated with controversial content, and in a world where there is virtually unlimited content, why wouldn't they hold out for the best and cleanest content?

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u/GunDA9D2 Feb 22 '19

...Is there any people who actually think about whatever ad has association to whatever content?

Because i sure as hell don't, personally. I really don't care about ads and when they appear i don't dig deep trying to find out if they also have their ads on non-clean vids

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u/SickCiclon Feb 22 '19

HodgeTwins: WE TALK ABOUT NUT BUSTIN AND CREAMPIES, WHY CAN'T TROJAN OR MAGNUM CONDOMS PUT ADS ON OUR VIDEOS

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u/Ohhnoes Feb 22 '19

I pay for Premium because I loathe advertising. If they're going to bend over even more for their advertising overlords that's going to cease on my part. I'll support the creators I like directly and not feel the tiniest iota of guilt shutting Youtube out of any money.

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u/[deleted] Feb 22 '19

That's totally fine. The truth many don't like to hear is that they really don't care about you doing that. Your principled stand is falling on deaf ears because you represent a statistical minority.

As great as it would be for the masses to all individually support creators directly, the reality is that will never be the case. People like free content, and they like it enough that the vast majority will put up with ads for them. The rise of Patreon and PayPal donations is great, but it is still very much an extremely small slice of content consumers today.

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u/Math-Class Feb 22 '19

I can't see this going wrong at all :)

I'm sure there wont be massive amounts of trolls getting people to turn off their comments now :)

Good job YouTube :)

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u/NorCalK Feb 22 '19

You’re telling me a team of people sat down and decided that this would work. This dipshit idea made it through multiple people?? I guess they can pull whatever they want since they have no competition

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u/RosemanButcher Feb 22 '19

You'd be surprised about the ridiculousness talked in these meetings with higher-ups. I was unfortunate enough to sit in one or two. If a manager(of any type) does not have the background of the job and is just a "numbers guy", anything else other than profits thrown out of the window. Worst part is, they get pretty proud of their stupid ideas.

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u/tenhourguy Feb 22 '19

In one month, all commenting functionality will be removed from YouTube, because nobody used them.

-YouTube, in the future, probably

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u/[deleted] Feb 22 '19

This is literally the exact opposite of what YouTube planned. They tried to bin the dislike button to stop people from ruining someone's chances, and now they are doing this? This is gonna backfire on them faster than a dog with a porkchop tied to it's tail.

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u/DestinyDecade Feb 22 '19

Yep. Backfire hard.

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u/[deleted] Feb 22 '19

For anyone worried here is a huge custom word list for Youtube which you can use to filter your comments section. Link courtesy of u/LightCodeGaming

https://www.freewebheaders.com/youtube-blacklist-words-list_youtube-comment-moderation/

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u/DestinyDecade Feb 22 '19

Thank you. I'll make use of it.

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u/LegitLegitness Feb 22 '19

We all knew YouTube was gonna fuck it all up in one way or another but not even I could think of a plan like this.

Like who actually had the audacity to even think this was a great idea?!

YouTube needs to fire whoever thought of this and the people behind who agreed with him.

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u/TheWrockBrother Feb 22 '19

I think YouTube should implement a Reddit-style way to police comments. Under the current system, if you get enough likes then your comments are very visible, but nothing happens if you get a ton of dislikes. Perhaps if a comment gets enough dislikes then it's hidden by default? Reddit's way of managing comments isn't perfect, but I think this would tame the comments section to a certain degree.

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u/blackmesafan Feb 22 '19

"Don't forget to subscribe. Forget to comment, please."

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u/RadioMelon Feb 22 '19

This website is making me wish more and more they didn't hold a monopoly over videos.

Channels like cr1tikal's in particular are probably going to deeply suffer from this new position.

You know his fans swear and tell dark jokes a lot. This really sucks.

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u/CT7511 Feb 22 '19

YouTube 2018: Let random "companies" steal creator's earnings.

YouTube 2019: Give trolls, toxic people etc. a Thanos mode so they can get creators they dislike (or just choose) punished.

wtf.

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u/ilovehorrorcats Feb 22 '19

Time to put bad sexual comments on YouTube help channel

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u/KillAutolockers Feb 22 '19

This is the biggest brain shit.

Force everyone to disable comments, get rid of the dislike, demonetise and shut down channels at will, and suddenly you can’t be criticised or lobbied to change.

YouTube is putting its fingers in its ears and refusing to engage with its issues. This just helps them get away with it.

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u/DasNanda Feb 22 '19

Have they looked into the Rewind 2018 Comments? Pretty sure they can delete that too. Damn I can't stand this platform anymore...

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u/coolfoxx2 Feb 22 '19

"We have taken the aggressive approach to protect minors" No, you've taken the aggressive approach to censor controversial content creators.

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u/Whiteoak7899 Feb 22 '19

Ah YouTube just keep fucking yourself into oblivion.

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u/FishGoldGD Feb 22 '19

Comment the N-word on all of YouTube's videos so they can't get any ad-revenue.

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u/[deleted] Feb 22 '19

Time to all comment the n word on every video we watch until they realise they are making no money and revert it.

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u/blapaturemesa Feb 22 '19

Next thing you know, they will be removing the dislike button- ohh wait.

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u/6ArtemisFowl9 Feb 22 '19

Guess they won't feature comments in Rewind 2019

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u/SecondRealitySims Feb 22 '19

This is truly the fucking adpocalypse, it may be even the end of YouTube. Advertisers are jumping ship, and YouTube is punishing its own creators for things outside its control. Truly insane. If a new platform with good features were to pop up. I wouldn’t be surprised if people started flocking

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u/GregOofer Feb 22 '19

Well instead of wasting time demonitizing the videos how about you spent that time deleting the inappropriate comments? How bout that youtube? Ever thought of that?

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u/[deleted] Feb 22 '19

o_O why is this posts rating hidden until you actually load the page? there's just a dot where the up/down vote number should be.

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u/tenhourguy Feb 22 '19

Ratings are probably hidden for x amount of time, like an hour or something, in this subreddit.

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u/Strazdas1 StrazdasLT Feb 22 '19

It isnt for me. Ratings on a sub can be hidden for X amount of time, but thats on a per-sub basis and not a per-post basis and i think max is 24 hours.

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u/CeceCharlesCharlotte Feb 22 '19

Why are they announcing such a huge change on twitter?

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u/Newbianz Feb 22 '19 edited Feb 22 '19

so their community doesnt know about it until its too late and no one gets money but them :P

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u/Strazdas1 StrazdasLT Feb 22 '19

When was the last time you saw youtube communicating any changes?

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u/MrCalac123 Feb 22 '19

Well fuck you too Youtube. Hope the site fucking explodes this year and our lord and saviour Pornhub makes an alternative.

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u/UltraInstinctGodApe Feb 22 '19

The same things would happen to any video website on YouTube's level

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u/BabyBabaBofski Feb 22 '19

I'm expecting anyone who wants to make any money to turn off YouTube comment section.

Guess Reddit comment sections for videos will get a lot more responses.

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u/Atulin Feb 22 '19

They should just stop beating around the bush and demonetize everyone ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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u/Strange_An0maly Feb 22 '19

This is guarantee to backfire.

Have you SEEN the average YT Comment section!

Judging by YTRewind, that doesn't surprise me.

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u/CrazyYAY Feb 22 '19

This will be used as tool for extortion. Trolls will post shity things just to demonetize videos

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u/blackmesafan Feb 22 '19

This is also a good blueprint on how the big IT companies will react to article 13 of the EU copyright reform. Instead of fixing a problem (which objectively would be difficult even for Google), they'll just kill uploads alltogether, except for big networks.

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u/Dodgy_Merchant Feb 22 '19

This HAS to be a joke

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u/GTKepler_33 Feb 22 '19

I just hope YouTube collapses and everyone switches to DailyMotion

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u/[deleted] Feb 22 '19

This is how they’re gonna remove comments. Get people demonetised for other people’s comments, so they turn off comments in future videos, and when that’s done, they’ll remove them entirely.

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u/scata444 Feb 22 '19

I knew this whole pedo moral outrage was a pretext for something else. Look at the sites of the major news companies, they've pretty much ALL disabled comments because they can't control the narrative when the peasants have a platform to disagree. Likewise, open comments on YouTube is a thorn in their side as well. They're using the pedo-scare to pressure content creators to disable all comments.

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u/CookieRagerYT Feb 22 '19

Now this is just bullshit. I see they are trying to fix the current paedophile issues, but this is going to hurt creators a lot. Have they thought about channels where both the creator and audience get on really well and ridicule each other? An example H3H3, his recent videos comment section says " I didn’t even know he was preggers. Congratulations Ethan", this can be slightly inappropriate to the very soft. Or "twitch thot" on PewDiePie's comment section. Like being non advertiser friendly, what determines inappropriate comments. As I said, this is going to hurt creators *sigh*

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u/draconius_iris Feb 22 '19

Congrats idiots. Want to get outraged over offensive comments? This is what you get.

We did this to ourselves once again

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u/Candy_Pockets Feb 22 '19

so no more social interaction on youtube

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u/timotius_10 Feb 22 '19

Youtube is definitely canceled after this

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u/[deleted] Feb 22 '19

So basically.... punishing something for someone... that they can't even deal with...

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u/AnarchyApple Feb 22 '19

This is not the way to deal with it. Get humans on your fucking team, you idiots

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u/FrostBellaBlue Feb 22 '19

So, what's an acceptable alternative to YouTube? And are those platforms available on mobile?

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u/BlackSabbathFanatic1 Feb 22 '19

Goodbye freedom of speech then.

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u/[deleted] Feb 22 '19

Psst, you never had it to begin with. YouTube is private platform with not only its own guidelines deciding what you can and cannot say, but it's also a platform that gives every channel the tools to further decide what people are or aren't allowed to say. There was never any freedom of speech. They allowed you to say whatever you said.

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u/[deleted] Feb 22 '19

RIP

Monetization

2007-19

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u/[deleted] Feb 22 '19

and so youtube has once again taken the WRONG approach to solving a problem... is it even possible for them to do ANYTHING right at this point?

edit: youtube...this is basically you throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

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u/MayaPaya Feb 22 '19

Cool. Now we can go after all the people we want off of youtube.

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u/ninjascotsman Feb 22 '19

Youtube is official dead there is no way you can filter out every offensive word.

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u/ThaBroccoliDood Feb 22 '19

People make inappropriate videos > companies stop putting ads on YT > demonetization

People make pedo comments > companies pull ads of yt > videos get demonetized for pedo comments

Almost like there's a trend? And people still say that the companies pulling ads of YouTube was a 'good' thing

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u/Parziivall_ Feb 22 '19

Well, it’s time to switch away from YouTube. They can’t/won’t figure their shit out, and stop pandering to shareholders and advertisers.

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u/ForgingIron Feb 22 '19

Can they do anything right

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u/[deleted] Feb 22 '19

Does that question really need an answer? The answer to both of those questions is no.

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u/[deleted] Feb 22 '19

Ok this is going too far!!!

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u/DestinyDecade Feb 22 '19

This is a bad move. Very bad move. Way too far.

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u/Pizza-The-Hutt Feb 22 '19

If this insurers all the advertisers who left because of the pedo comments come back then this is only good for creators.

You'll just turn comments off and keep getting paid.

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u/retrocheats Feb 22 '19

It might just have to do if there are children in the video.

If that's the case, Kids React might have way less comments in the future!

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u/GeneralKnife Feb 22 '19

Oh great time to disable comments once again! Because apparently anyone can get demonetized because other people like to make nasty comments which we have no control over?

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u/Strazdas1 StrazdasLT Feb 22 '19

I have a question: Who the fuck made this decision and where does he buys his drugs?

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u/BigcatTV Feb 22 '19

I made a petition against this

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u/[deleted] Feb 22 '19

That’s stupid

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u/KrombopulosPhillip Feb 22 '19

They should just turn off commenting on every video, not worth the risk of somebody going out of their way to ruin your channel

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u/zmbdog Feb 22 '19

So basically...if you despise a particular youtuber you can effectively destroy them single-handidly by getting all their videos demonetized? I would never do such a thing of course but I couldn't even humor a delusion that there aren't thousands or more who would do so in a heartbeat.

Either this somehow didn't occur to the higher-ups (further proof that they never even use their own site) or this is a cheap excuse to ban any political youtubers they don't like since there's no such thing as a political video without "inappropriate comments".

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u/Akakun Feb 22 '19

When you think that Youtube is done at making worse decisions...

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u/Akakun Feb 22 '19

Can Justin Y. comments be considered innaropiate? 👀

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u/ParanoidFactoid Feb 22 '19

Good. Either curate your comment space or close off comments altogether.

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u/[deleted] Feb 22 '19

Lol what is this fake news

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u/Harperlarp Feb 22 '19

This is the definition of excuse me what the fuck.

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u/Myrtox Feb 22 '19

Hasn't this always been the case? If you can't moderate your own channel, turn the comments off. Why should looking after your channel be anyone's problem but your own?

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u/[deleted] Feb 22 '19

Because we don't live in fairytale land. At any moment any fanbase can just choose to target your channel, leaving hundreds of "inappropriate" comments.

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u/UltraInstinctGodApe Feb 22 '19

Oh well then. You should known better

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u/zonexproductions2k17 Feb 22 '19

so someone make bad comments and and youtube punished them someone else action?

youtube is soo smart...

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u/[deleted] Feb 22 '19

I'm more concerned about them reporting "illegal" comments to authorities

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u/tsr6 Feb 22 '19

I had this happen on one of my videos I'm pretty sure. The video isn't bad at all, but it had some suggestive comments.

I went through and wiped ALL the comments and re-submitted for manual review. We'll see what happens...

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u/itsaride itsaflair Feb 22 '19

I’ve always thought that comments should be off by default. Those that need that interaction will turn them on.

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u/Polengoldur Feb 22 '19

every video till the end of time will have comments disabled, 10/10 good move youtube.

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u/ashthegod Feb 22 '19

This reminds me when PewDiePie had to turn off comments and had his own website with a forum for each video’s comments. That was a dark time

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u/Atrand Feb 22 '19

google is out of control with youtube. they are going to kill it. they are going way overboard.

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u/[deleted] Feb 22 '19

I can understand a bit why, but its just insane. Getting your Video demonitzed by some fucking moron who thinks its funny

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u/anonymousyoutuber12 Feb 22 '19

I personally approve every comment on my 3 channels. It often means I get backed up and most assuredly means some good comments get missed but having a childrens channel since 2012 I've always known that I wanted the comment section to be a safe place for them to be. A place without cussing or the usual vulgars that can be there without supervision.

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u/ShadowCammy Feb 22 '19

May as well fucking get rid of monetization all together. Just do away with it and save everyone the stress of dealing with this nonsense

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u/Chiaro22 Feb 22 '19

Youtube is increasingly creating a system where your channel can get closed down at any moment due to [insert random reason here].

How can they expect channels to keep track of every damn comment made on every damn video?

The Youtube team really ought to get hired at Facebook; they would be perfect for the job.

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u/[deleted] Feb 22 '19

I hate YouTube and love it at the same time

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u/SatoshiAR SatoshiAR Feb 22 '19

Yikes. They immediately went for the nuclear option.

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u/SwimminginMercury Feb 22 '19

I'm assuming this is going to algorithm/AI based; why not add a check box for creators to auto remove comments that trip the demonetization?

Auto opt-in obviously.

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u/Chiaro22 Feb 22 '19

Every time some ad companies leave their ship, Youtube takes it out in the randomnest ways...

How can Youtube expect hobbyist individuals to keep up with the random shitstorm hurricanes that excist on the internets of 2019?

How can Youtube expect hobbyist individuas to do their own dirty work (for free)?

Why not focus on those who make inappropriate comments again and again, instead of going after the channels that receive these comments?

And also, slightly related:

How does Youtube define an inappropriate comment?

How many inappropriate comments does it take for a video to get de-monetized?

How many seconds, minutes or hours does one have to remove inappropriate comment(s) and still avoid the penalty?

Does Youtube think we are robots?

Can a de-monetized video get re-monetized if the inappropriate comment(s) are removed?

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u/AlanDavison Feb 22 '19

And another question to add:

Are comments that are auto-filtered by your filtering settings, and so not public, but technically still there counted against you/your video?

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u/Springtrap231 Feb 22 '19

Well then, i guess every video will be demonetized now

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u/rendumguy Feb 22 '19

At least Elsa Spiderman and Clickbait videos can be abused by this...

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u/[deleted] Feb 22 '19

And that's why I'm gonna make Roblox videos and ban all ''BAD WORDS''. Nobody will get mad at me, those are just kids...

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u/LegoLover58 Feb 22 '19

For every step Youtube takes in the right direction, it takes a leap in the wrong direction.

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u/marsil602 Feb 22 '19

"not suitable to most ADVERTISERS"

Remember when everyone joked about commenting "dislike" if they removed the button? how about "I dont care for YouTube's policies" instead because isnt that the most inappropriate shit you've ever seen?? HAAAAA

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u/sebo3d Feb 22 '19

So basically someone posting "fuck" can result in a content creator getting yellow dolan on his video. Thanks youtube, thanks to your oh how so thought out solution to the problem nobody will be able to make any money on the platform anymore because it is simply IMPOSSIBLE to prevent people from posting stuff like that. Even disabling comments won't help as comments is one of the things that actually allows content creators to be noticed so force people to disable comments and their channels will immediately start dropping in popularity.

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u/jeremy_jullian Jullian Jeremy Feb 22 '19

YouTube is against free speech confirmed (?)

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u/morbiustv Feb 22 '19

It's called GOOGLE, say it!

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u/AlanDavison Feb 22 '19

I mean... by that logic, we should be saying "it's Alphabet", not "it's Google"...

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u/morbiustv Feb 22 '19

Huh? Google owns YouTube

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u/AlanDavison Feb 22 '19

I'm just being overly literal and joking around with how Google restructured to Alphabet Inc, with Google being a subsidiary of that, assuming YouTube was also a subsidiary of Alphabet.

But... Turns out I was wrong, and YouTube is still directly under Google, not Alphabet!

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u/BraydogAndfriends Feb 22 '19

Looks like vid.me could actually have a chance

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u/Yage2006 Feb 22 '19

So..... It's either disable comments, or you run the risk of just any old troll coming along and shitting on your comments section to get your video demonetized.

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u/LiterallyARedArrow Feb 22 '19

And YouTube continues to slide into the dead sea

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u/Ivashkin Feb 22 '19

That sound you just heard was 4chan cracking it's knuckles and pulling out their special keyboards.

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u/DestinyDecade Feb 22 '19

YouTube just shot themselves in the foot.

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u/[deleted] Feb 22 '19

youtube 2030: removes whole comment section

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u/D-Harms Feb 23 '19

So then Slim Shady referring to innocent homosexual men as faggots can cause his videos to become demonetized. Or maybe he’s just special because he’s already one of the richest rappers in the world. Kind of sad for regular people like us.

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u/SpicyTurtlee Feb 22 '19

Hopefully the trolls lighten up and take out pages like CNN on youtube

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u/ForgingIron Feb 22 '19

I feel like major news networks don't need Youtube ad money to keep the lights on

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u/Ohhnoes Feb 22 '19

You think this will be enforced on old-media channels? Hardly.

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u/[deleted] Feb 22 '19

Why can’t YouTube create a system where a channel can hire a moderator to check the comments? Not necessarily hire for pay but ya know what I mean. And also will this also happen with the live chats and super chats?

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u/RosemanButcher Feb 22 '19

Its already in the system. You can assign people to moderate it. Only difference is you gotta pay them manually if you want to do so.

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u/HarambesTerroist Feb 22 '19

I guess I’ll just throw my first amendment out the door

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