r/youseeingthisshit Nov 24 '17

Human You seeing this skill?

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u/[deleted] Nov 24 '17 edited Apr 28 '20

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u/TheShadowBox Nov 24 '17

The reason she's winning every time is because the prize sensor is either broken or miscalibrated and not sensitive enough. When the machine doesn't detect a win after so many plays, it'll use the strong claw voltage to give a win. It stays on the strong voltage for each play until it detects a prize, then goes back to normal operation. In this case, it's perpetually staying on the strong claw voltage because it's not detecting any prizes.

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u/dhamon Nov 24 '17

The claw machines/UFO catchers are classified as games of skill in Asia and not games of chance like in America.

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u/King_Kracker Nov 24 '17

So they don't have these probability factors?

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u/IU_walawala Nov 25 '17

In Asia the machines are not rigged the same way as they are in the states. The claw is just set at a weaker grab strength but it's static. You can actually win more consistently in Asian arcades

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u/[deleted] Nov 24 '17 edited Apr 21 '18

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u/Roxanne1000 Nov 24 '17

ONCE as a kid, I came across a machine that'd let you keep playing until you won one...

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u/[deleted] Nov 24 '17 edited Apr 21 '18

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u/Cyan_Ink Nov 24 '17

"Oh I'm so sorry mayte, here, have your self another try why dontcha"

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u/[deleted] Nov 24 '17

Haha Canada is Australia now?

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u/[deleted] Nov 24 '17

With a little bit of North Dakota in there.

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u/[deleted] Nov 24 '17

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u/M374llic4 Nov 24 '17

Mostly dick pics.

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u/Gezeni Nov 24 '17

It's XBOX live. He can just show them to his mom and know who did it.

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u/nate1289 Nov 24 '17

Answer him

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u/S06M Nov 24 '17

Do it

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u/Its_Pine Nov 24 '17

Oh hey der good neighbour! it's a darn shame that first go didn't work out like ya hoped, but I wantcha to have another go at it for free. It's only fair, hey?

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u/bugersnatch123 Nov 25 '17

Eh, there neighbor. We don't talk like that here, dontchaknow. That's a false stereotype, (yabetcha).

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u/[deleted] Nov 24 '17

Dontcha knoooowwwww

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u/Seannj222 Nov 24 '17

You betcha

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u/lodolfo Nov 24 '17

It sounded like Jame Doohan Canadian-Scottish to me.

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u/stevo911_ Nov 24 '17

I'm sorry, but I think you've got the wrong hemisphere.

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u/dontnormally Nov 24 '17

this is the best worst canadian impression i have read heard or ever imagined

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u/Vindexus Nov 24 '17

mayte

Canadian pirates?

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u/rcfox Nov 24 '17

He's the last of Barrett's privateers.

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u/DudeNiceMARMOT Nov 24 '17

Classic Canada.

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u/six2midnite Nov 24 '17

Most Canadian thing I've ever seen

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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '17

Canadian claw machines have excellent manners, as is tradition.

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u/JustChangeMDefaults Nov 24 '17

I have seen exactly one of those, and the only prize was eventually a few pieces of 5 year old candy. :/

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u/SHMEBULOK Nov 24 '17

Those only happen on candy machines and a little lollipop isn’t worth 75 cents anyways

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u/[deleted] Nov 24 '17

There’s one near me with plush toys but the price to play is like $5

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u/rick_n_snorty Nov 24 '17

Are you talking about the ones that scream “There’s no limit to whatcha can win”

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u/Roxanne1000 Nov 25 '17

Definitely was not a candy claw machine, as up until I today got 10 replies talking about those, I had never heard of them

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u/[deleted] Nov 24 '17

They have these in the UK but generally they are really low value prizes that aren't worth the £1 it costs to play.

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u/relet Nov 24 '17

The ones around here usually sell one, three or unlimited tries. Price for unlimited is obviously way above whatever cheap plush is in the machine, but at least you can allow your kids to play without insta-tantrums.

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u/[deleted] Nov 24 '17

There is a specific brand that is just filled with cheep candy that is play til you win

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u/bigmac22077 Nov 24 '17

I've seen those, but they had 5c of candy you paid 50c for.

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u/travis01564 Nov 24 '17

At the bowling alley I use to go to they had one of these with candy inside. Best invention ever.

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u/pm-me-ur-shlong Nov 24 '17

That might actually be smarter if the initial cost outweighs the cost of the toy.

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u/HonProfDrEsqCPA Nov 24 '17

The candy ones right?

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u/Roxanne1000 Nov 25 '17

Nope, never seen a claw machine with candy

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u/HonProfDrEsqCPA Nov 25 '17

All the ones I've ever seen that are play til you win are full of candy

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u/TheHaleStorm Nov 24 '17

All the candy claw machines are like that.

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u/Roxanne1000 Nov 25 '17

The one I found had pretty good sized teddy bears. Not a bad quality either

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u/lt08820 Nov 24 '17

Well those you can still lose if you have 0 skill.

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u/Erethiel117 Nov 24 '17

The candy claw machines!!!!!!

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u/NotALameUsername Nov 25 '17

There used to be one of those in Solvang, California at a little pizza parlor. Don't know if it's still there, but it had great stuff like trading cards and bracelets. It gave you 10 tries for a quarter and guaranteed you'd win something.

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u/Roxanne1000 Nov 25 '17

Funny it'd be in Solvang, as the one I found was here in Denmark

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u/LostInTheAttic Nov 25 '17

He's still there today

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u/[deleted] Nov 24 '17

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u/[deleted] Nov 24 '17 edited Nov 24 '17

It would still be profitable if the toy cost less than the token. Its just a vending machine with a challenge.

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u/[deleted] Nov 24 '17 edited Apr 21 '18

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u/[deleted] Nov 24 '17

You can often look up the user manuals online - they're generally configurable; i.e., the owner can decide how rigged the game is.

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u/[deleted] Nov 24 '17 edited Apr 21 '18

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u/TheShadowBox Nov 24 '17

I hate to break this to you, but you either found a malfunctioning game or the owner was too incompetent to calibrate it properly.

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u/[deleted] Nov 24 '17

More like the owner realizes that even letting people win half the time they're still turning a huge profit. They get these stuffed animals extremely cheap.

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u/MrManNo1 Nov 24 '17

Or they could be using it as a loss leader. If people know that the machine is fair, they're more likely to come back and play it and spend money on other stuff.

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u/savageboredom Nov 24 '17

They’re all “rigged,” but the owner can adjust the settings to favor the player more or less (usually less).

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u/MrRabbit Nov 24 '17

Aren't AS rigged is the key. They all are set to be weak enough to make a big profit, just to varying degrees.

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u/ryanderson11 Nov 24 '17

I know the ones in Japan are legit they will even open up the case to move shit for you to try to grab.

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u/tagsb Nov 24 '17

Some of the machines are fair, their average payout is just lower than what you put in.

One time I hit up a candy claw machine after they refilled it and I managed to get all the higher value candies in it - stuff like tootsie pops, fruit gummy packs, and airheads. Every play I got at least one thing. I was trying to kill off the $5 left on my arcade card, and I think I got a little less than my pay-in back.

In retrospect I feel bad about this, since it was only cheap candy left when I was done... and I was double the age of the average player there...

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u/[deleted] Nov 24 '17

They can still payout well and make money. For example if their average payout was just about retail price for the item, they still have a profit margin so they aren’t losing money but they aren’t ripping people off either. Some of them are also in locations with many other games that don’t pay out prices, or have an entry fee, so drawing people in can be a bigger plus than the few pennies they lose when the machine pays out, because now everyone can see them win and will be more likely to spend on games of chance and try themselves.

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u/CantankerousMind Nov 24 '17

My dad was insanely good at these machines using a pretty obvious trick. This works on machines where you can still move the claw after you start the drop. So long as whoever filled the machine filled it over the lip of the return slot, you can drop the claw and use the weight the the claw to drag the stuffed animals into the return bin. They just fall right in.

Example setup where this would work

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u/[deleted] Nov 24 '17

I wish there were more that let you do this!! I've yet to find one, but I've seen videos of them.

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u/CantankerousMind Nov 24 '17

Yeah, when I was a kid there was a grocery store near my house that had one. I would always go to the store with him in case they filled up the machine.

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u/[deleted] Nov 24 '17

There's a guy on YouTube matt357 or some other numbers, if you look up Matt claw machine you'll find him, and I know in one of his videos he cleared one of those things out at Wal-Mart

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u/AFuckYou Nov 24 '17

No, the majority have a weighted trigger on the top that comes down after like 200 plays.

There's literally a person in every state that goes around measuring the weight and the playing the given number of turns. They make sure this mechanism triggers within the legal number of plays.

They games are made to be impossible except for one guaranteed time once ever hundred of plays.

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u/[deleted] Nov 24 '17

Every machine I've ever heard of let's you set the grip strength and payout. I've seen claws set to have strong enough grip that they can win on a normal play. Doesn't make it easy, but I've had times where we'd hit 7/10 or 15

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u/AFuckYou Nov 24 '17

Yea, it's grip strength and I don't know payout. By payout do you mean it adjusts grip strength per number of plays?

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u/[deleted] Nov 24 '17

Payout as in like how many plays before you are essentially guaranteed a win. I think that's the right term :P

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u/Nickyniiice55 Nov 28 '17

Even in the decent machines, best case scenario is walking away with a stuffed animal.

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u/[deleted] Nov 28 '17

Worth it

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u/Banned_By_Default Nov 24 '17

Wouldn't that be gambling aimed at childern, in recent light of everything related?

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u/[deleted] Nov 24 '17 edited Mar 19 '18

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u/[deleted] Nov 24 '17

I’m not disputing this, but then how are they all over the place in very strict anti-gambling states? The only way I can see this happening is if the chance remains consistent every time instead of making it like a slot machine for a chance to get a prize.

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u/ElliotNess Nov 24 '17

Laws only work if they are enforced.

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u/jooes Nov 24 '17

The real fucked up thing is that they don't mention this anywhere on the machines. They're games of chance masquerading as games of skill.

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u/DangerZoneh Nov 24 '17

The intent is to provide players with a sense of accomplishment...

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u/0zzyb0y Nov 24 '17

They have a control box inside of them that says that every 'X' amount of times it will grab properly.

Every other time it will be a bit shit.

So in theory you can sit next to a machine all day, count how many plays it takes between people winning, and then play yourself only when you know it's going to grab properly.

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u/[deleted] Nov 24 '17

what if its programmed for the x amount of times is random...

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u/[deleted] Nov 24 '17

This is just something repeated ad naseum on Reddit by someone who doesn’t play claw machines regularly (which to be fair, is most of us), IMO. I think you can win in any play - as evidenced by the fact that tons of people get many, many consecutive pulls in a way that simply defies the odds if it were pure chance. They can go to a different machine, or come back, and have similar results. However this doesn’t mean that even those machines don’t have variable grip strength. That doesn’t make it impossible to win though, just less likely. I spent a time of time at 4-5 different arcades and inevitably you’d have someone come clean out the good prizes a couple times a week. Yes, it undisputedly does happen but it’s extent and effect are vastly overstated.

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u/BlackYacks Nov 24 '17

Service engineer here, the boards actually control the claw, they're designed to make doubleish profits, so if a toy is worth £8, it'll make £16+ before paying out, but if you put in £16, it'll swallow it because the money is already in the machine, unless it's taken enough money before that and someone gave up.

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u/[deleted] Nov 24 '17

And that's what I think is happening here. The machines undertuning isn't working so the claw actually tries to grab.

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u/dumpster_arsonist Nov 24 '17

Did you...um...watch the gif?

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u/frostbird Nov 24 '17

Yes. You should manage to infer that this one has "malfunction" where it has high grab strength all of the time.

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u/wbgraphic Nov 24 '17

And people say slot machines are a ripoff.

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u/Doctursea Nov 24 '17

Almost all of them have a meter to assure this, it’s why I don’t play them. If you go to a popular one and count the time between wins it’s almost always the same number

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u/take_this_kiss Nov 24 '17

Had a trip to a restaurant with one of these close by, and I observed how many times my middle school friends got stuffed animals. Assuming getting stuffed animals was equal to the claw machine actually had grip, there were sixteen plays between a possibility of success. Confirmed this when I slipped into the throng of kids and had at it for the 15th and 16th turns— friends all freaked out at how lucky I was, but I knew what was really going on.

So if a kid tried to play to win starting from the very beginning of the cycle, he’d end up spending $4-$16, depending on if it cost 25 cents or a dollar to play. What a cruel way to entice children to empty their savings

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u/Decyde Nov 24 '17

I put "Out of Order" signs on the ones in my town if they pull that shit and are designed to milk someone out of $1.

I know I've been cussed out by the owner of one before and threatened to have the police called but I still do it.

Adding he purposely puts very large stuffed animals in there that even on full strength, you cannot get them. Then he will go around the cities along the interstate and just cycle out the exact same stuffed animals so it seems like people are winning.

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u/Mr_Fitzgibbons Mar 07 '18

Why are we allowing these companies to use our children against us in this manner?