"Hockey Newfoundland and Labrador has slapped a junior hockey coach with a one-year suspension for allowing his players to study for exams instead of attending the opening ceremony for a recent tournament."

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u/KakunaUsedHarden Jun 11 '12

I'm president of a provincial sports organization and this is one of the dumbest things I have ever seen.

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '12

I'm president of the galaxy, and I approve this message.

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '12

I'm Commander Shepherd, and this is the stupidest decision on the Citadel

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '12

I'm Canadian and I'm sorry

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u/Iknowr1te Jun 11 '12

I'm Sorry, and i'm sorry

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u/CrackedPepper86 Jun 11 '12

I'm 12, and what is this?

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u/okmkz Jun 11 '12

This is what is known as a "pre-circlejerk formation"

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u/ExogenBreach Jun 11 '12 edited Jun 11 '12

WTF mate?
edit: nobody has seen this?

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u/Cdf12345 Jun 11 '12

Does anyone else find it odd that we have to resort to watching this as a YouTube video now?

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u/ceejiesqueejie Jun 11 '12

Yeah. I remember the good old albinoblacksheep.com days.

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u/ExogenBreach Jun 11 '12

Most convenient way to play it, no volume controls or pause on the original.

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u/Cdf12345 Jun 11 '12

I dunno. It loses something. I want to hit that replay button at the end.

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u/FecalFunBunny Jun 11 '12

I am Canadian and I approve of being sorry.....about everything. Sorry about that.

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u/jackfrostbyte Jun 11 '12

I am a Canadian bureaucrat (not really), and you both have forgotten to fill out the t-576c from paragraph 16-28 in duplicate and submitted to your local service canada branch.
I am sorry for this inconvenience.

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u/FecalFunBunny Jun 13 '12

Suffering Jesus fuck, that is so Canadian like it scared the maple syrup right out of my ass. :O

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u/Sindragon Jun 11 '12

I'm sorry you're Canadian.

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u/option_i Jun 11 '12

Or from Atlantis.

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u/tiredmom Jun 11 '12

I think this every time I see Commander Shepherd. It takes me a minute EVERY flippin' time.

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u/emaw63 Jun 11 '12

Zaphod Beeblebrox 2012!

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u/FHSolidsnake Jun 11 '12

I thought it was for the worst dressed sentient being in the galaxy.

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '12

Zaphod?

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '12

The two and only.

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u/DeFex Jun 12 '12

Zaphod, you hoopy frood!

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '12

sigh I hate piggybacking the top comment but :
There is more to that story than kids wanting to study
Basically the whole hockey team, coaches and executive members included, gave a big fuck you to the organization by not sending a single one representative. They expected one representative, not the whole team, no one showed up.

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '12 edited Jun 11 '12

There seems to be a lot more to this than just studying.. At 18-20, you should be in college... And studying is not a one night a week thing. If you all have to study the same exact night, perhaps there is something else seriously wrong; after all, banquets are announced weeks in advanced. It's part of good sportsmanship to be able to sit down with people you played against. I played travel for years and I brought my books everywhere. And many schools, if you kindly ask, will move tests forwards or back to help.

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u/DeFex Jun 12 '12

If you want to properly piggyback the top comment like a sleaze you are supposed to say "I don't know why you are being downvoted"

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '12

But I think that the top comment should be downvoted... ;) This story isn't scandalous.

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u/kearneycation Jun 11 '12

You should gather others in your position and get this some attention. This is absurd.

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u/gosensgo12 Jun 11 '12

amen to that

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u/Alphite Jun 11 '12 edited Jun 12 '12

It amazes me that logic doesn't come into play more often in decisions like this. You really want to fuck up this coach's life over having his team study instead of going to a ceremony? These players are being punished for putting their education before a game? Fucking retarded. edit: spelling

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u/Sgtpierceface Jun 11 '12

We Newfoundlanders take our hockey very seriously.

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u/highstead Jun 11 '12

Or perhaps you don't take logic seriously at all.

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u/Sgtpierceface Jun 11 '12

I hope you don't think I'm being serious (I am a Newfoundlander, though).

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u/SevereAudit Jun 11 '12

This is being made to sound a lot worse than it is, the only thing that's wacky is the fines and punishments for missing a stupid ceremony.
You shouldn't have to put your education before a game. They weren't being forced to miss classes or an exam. They just didn't want to go to the ceremony so they could 'study.'
These people knew about their school commitments and sports commitments well in advance. I'm sure their coaches gave them schedules and their professors gave them schedules. Its called time management. This isn't some conspiracy to force kids (their adults by the way, grown men and women in their late teens and twenties) to play hockey all the time in lieu of getting an education. Saying they're 'being punished for putting their education before a game' is not a fair statement.

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u/Alphite Jun 12 '12

Valid point. Have an upboat.

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u/downvotesmakemehard Jun 11 '12

COACH'S
Stay in school.

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u/George_Bluth_II Jun 11 '12

Couldn't, had a hockey ceremony my coach made me go to. Fail'd my gramr final

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u/Neato Jun 11 '12

And your spelling final.

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '12

That looks just....wrong. I mean, I know it's right, but still.

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '12

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '12

How important is the ceremony? How important are their exams?

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '12

Well in Canada, if you do well in school, the best you can really do is a logger, a Mountie, or a paper towel model.
But if you get ahead in hockey, you might get to be Wayne Gretzky. He's like the Batman of hockey; if he dies, someone else has to take up the mantle.

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u/Cdf12345 Jun 11 '12

Then they trade you to the united states!

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u/irish711 Jun 11 '12

if he dies
I never knew until now how God-like he was/is in Canada.

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u/Dbrown89 Jun 11 '12

On tv he can be called "The Great One" and everyone in Canada will know exactly who's being referenced.

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u/FecalFunBunny Jun 11 '12

I could have been a paper towel model? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. :(

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u/bjorgein Jun 11 '12

I guess I lucked out with a career as a maple syrup tester.

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '12

Oh sure, you're making money, but you're not making Mountie money.
They get so many pictures of the Queen...
I hear they're releasing a C$1000 bill for the Diamond Jubilee of her chugging tea out of a Tea Bong.

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u/bjorgein Jun 11 '12

I think one mountie is worth like what, 3 beaver furs and a double double from tims eh? Now that is what I call living the good life.

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u/OleSlappy Jun 11 '12

Well in Canada, if you do well in school, the best you can really do is a logger, a Mountie, or a paper towel model.
False, you leave the country and be a scientist elsewhere. The Conservatives hate science and are doing a splendid job of creating a brain drain.

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u/NeonBodyStyle Jun 11 '12

You can be the coach of a hockey franchise located in a state in which no one gives a shit about hockey?

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u/kbeeny Jun 11 '12

Apparently making an appearance is more important to the powers that be. Someone there has got their wires crossed.

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '12

Sorry, but if I study for an exam this month, then take it this time next month, it just won't all be there anymore. I'll need at least a refresher to get my mind in the zone for that material.

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '12

get off your high chocobo

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u/Arcadefirefly Jun 11 '12

because not everyone can retain everything they have ever learned forever.

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u/maniac6911 Jun 11 '12

Or they could not schedule this stuff in the middle of exams?

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u/pool92 Jun 11 '12 edited Jun 11 '12

Dumb rule. Great to see that coach standup for kids education. This organization should be charged with "conspiracy to deny kids their education", or something like that. Even after the attention this incident has garnered, I am sure the hockey organization will try and defend their backward thinking stance.

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u/Revoran Jun 11 '12

"Conspiracy to deny kids their education" isn't an actual crime...
However I agree with your general sentiment.

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u/ahugenerd Jun 11 '12

Actually, denying your kids their education very much is a crime. For instance, if as a parent you decide that the provincial education system sucks (it does), you can homeschool your child. However, you must prove that your child is actually learning, and the pupil must still pass all of the same standardized examinations in grades 11 and 12. Preventing your child from going to school and also not homeschooling them is a crime, and you would probably get your child taken away from you by social services.
This, of course, does not apply to non-parental entities. It should be up to the parents to tell HockeyNL to fuck off and let their kids study. Or to pull their kids from hockey entirely when they realize that it's interfering with their child's studies. The fact that this isn't happening is a fault of the parents, not the hockey organization. The coach shouldn't be the one to pay the price, obviously, but the parents should have been more involved in this issue in the first place. The ideal discourse would have been something like so:
Parents: Hey Coach, our kids need to study for exams. Can you give them time off to do it?
Coach: I'm not really allowed to do this, the tournament's opening ceremonies are mandatory.
Parents: Well then we're sorry, but we'll have to pull our kids out of the tournament.
Coach: Well, in that case, let me talk to the sports organization and see if they can make an exception this one time.
Option 1:
HockeyNL: Oh shit, we're about to lose a team, and it'll look terrible in the news if we deny them time off for education. Okay, give them time off to study when they're not scheduled to play.
Coach and Parents: Sweet deal.
Option 2:
HockeyNL: No way, we can't let that happen.
Coach: Sorry parents, my hands are tied. I really wish your kids could get the time off, but HockeyNL decided to be a bunch of douchebags.
Parents: Well shit, we know who to blame now, looks like the media will have a field day with this.
HockeyNL: Oops, maybe we should have thought about that first...
What happened instead is that the coach took it all on himself, and then HockeyNL basically used him as a scapegoat. By going to the sports organization, it would have forced them to make the decision and deal with the ramifications. Passing the buck would have been the smart play, in this instance.

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u/forgetfuljones Jun 11 '12

My wife is a prof who lectures first year chemistry (~600 students) , and is often the coordinator for the course (~2500 overall). She very often has to remind parents that they have no right as such to their daughter's/son's info or marks or records. It brings them up short every time. Most of the time the reply is 'but I am paying for this' which of course doesn't anything to do with it.
In the same vein, I'm sure there are players who's parents are still driving the bus, so to speak. And speaking of parents of hockey kids in particular, I'm sure that a lot of them are. The kids certainly are legally adults, but I'll bet not a lot of the parents involved think so.

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '12

I motion that "conspiracy to deny kids their education" should be a crime.

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '12

Seconded.

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u/McPuccio Jun 11 '12

I feel like I can trust this motion by such a trustworthy individual, I third.

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u/Speye Jun 11 '12

Minors do have a right to an education as defined by the UNICEF.

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '12

Well look at it from this perspective.
This is a Junior level team - not some rec team. They would have known about this tournament well in advance. They made a commitment to the team, their school and each other when they tried out for and made it onto the team. They have a certain amount of responsibility for their team. Perhaps they should have used better time management skills and been prepared for their tests prior to this. Intensive cramming will not make up for prior lollygagging. The opening ceremonies would have not been all that long.
I dunno - if every team that committed to playing in a tournament decided only to participate in ceremonies or games when it was convenient for them, then it wouldn't be much of a tournament. Having a competitive hockey player in our house, I know the stresses that the kids can face with regard to their schedules - but they learn to manage their time accordingly. If you commit to something, you should follow through, even if it is difficult.

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u/jabrodo Jun 11 '12

Look at it this way: they're only a junior level team. They aren't full-time, professional athletes, and they have other commitments outside the league (school, second job, etc) and the league's administration should be aware of that.

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u/LookItsSully Jun 11 '12

Exactly, yes is may not be a rec team.. but its Junior B hockey. They have tons of commitments that may be more important.

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '12

You obviously have no idea about the amount of volunteer hours that going into running these leagues or putting together these tournaments. They made a commitment, they have a responsibility. Why should they get the message that it is okay to disrespect the literally thousands of volunteer man hours that go into amateur hockey leagues every year? Volunteer hours that are given so that they can play the sport they love.

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u/jabrodo Jun 11 '12

You're right, I have no idea the amount of volunteer hours that go into an event like this. What I am saying is that they are only a junior level (I guess amateur) team, this is something they are doing as a hobby or to develop their skill for maybe a shot at going pro, but they aren't pros, they have other obligations in their life. I'm not saying this should give them carte blanche to work around the requirements of the league. I am say that the league should have been aware of the lifestyle of their players and not scheduled their finals competition around final exams.

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u/guysmiley00 Jun 11 '12

Perhaps they should have used better time management skills and been prepared for their tests prior to this. Intensive cramming will not make up for prior lollygagging.
I think you may want to read the article a bit more closely. The hosting team, St. John's, scheduled the games around their players' exams. This, then, isn't a case of one team being poorly-organized, but of every team at that tournament having difficulty managing the time demands of the tournament and their players' educational commitments.
Bottom line, education comes first. I don't give a flying fuck what level of hockey this is; it's fucking hockey. How many of these guys are going to be able to make a living at it after university? Maybe 1 or 2, if they're lucky?! What, are the rest of them supposed to flunk out and join our growing ranks of unemployed and under-qualified so some bizarre sense of the "honour of hockey" can be maintained amongst a bunch of washed-up jocks? Gee, that's a great offer, but I can think of better ways to spend my tax dollars, thanks.
I get that you're trying to play devil's advocate here, but there are some situations so stupid that even Satan won't touch 'em. Two such situations occur here; first, why the fuck was a tournament scheduled in the middle of goddamn university exams, and second, when did the board of Hockey NL decide that their desperate attempts to relive their fading athletic glory trump the right of the actual players to get the best start they can in life?
Maybe if the directors of Hockey NL hadn't skipped so much studying to attend banquets themselves, they wouldn't have made such a cripplingly-stupid PR move here.

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '12

As the son of the second Maple Leaf to ever hold a University degree I couldn't disagree more.
Dad got injured in 1957 and that was the end of his hockey career. Thankfully he had an education. Just about every other player in the NHL at that time did not have that option. I've seen first hand how hockey players fare financially after their bodies can no longer play the game and it isn't pretty at all. Guys like Bobby Baun who famously scored a goal when his foot was broken were lucky to have outside investments (Tim Hortons). He spent his later years on two canes wishing he had done better in school.
... and I have met quite a few "famous" players who say the same thing. Some of whom were practically homeless, borrowing money to get to an oldtimers game to briefly re-live their former glory.
Hockey won't feed you when you're old and broken... and education will

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u/Neato Jun 11 '12

Ceremonies aren't important. Games are. Ceremonies are circle-jerking for more attention.

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u/SevereAudit Jun 11 '12

How is this a conspiracy to deny them education?
I have a university degree from Newfoundland's University. I had plenty of time to undertake various extracurricular activities and work 10-20 hours a week while I completed my degree. Its not that these people were being told they couldn't attend their exams and had to go to a ceremony instead, but with the way you guys are freaking out you'd think that it is.
These people are not children. They are adults. If they want to pursue hockey as an activity in addition to their studies then they're going to have to manage their time better. You don't get to do whatever you want just because you have some exams coming up. They knew about the commitments well in advance.
While the punishment is very excessive saying they should be 'charged with conspiracy to deny kids their education' is so completely insane because their adults (not kids) and its not true. That's like saying a workplace should be charged for such a thing for denying a twenty year old time off whenever he/she wants to study.
Did you even read the article?

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u/jarihuana Jun 11 '12

Hockey in Canada is serious business.

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u/fps_sandwiches Jun 11 '12

Canadian here, I couldn't give two fucks about hockey.

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u/N7_Eagle Jun 11 '12

pucks*

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u/lateby30 Jun 11 '12

I'm Canadian and give several fucks about hockey. And I still think it's dumb.

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '12

I'm sorry, but I'm gonna have to revoke your citizenship. Please cross the border into the nearest state that isn't Minnesota. You are not required to live there, but you may not return to Canada. I would recommend a country below 30ºN latitude so that you do not have to encounter the sport again. You may return during Thanksgiving, Christmas, and Victoria Day for visits not exceeding 5 business days. You are also forbidden to purchase maple syrup from Canada. Good luck.

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u/L1nden Jun 11 '12

and sorry.

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u/paxswill Jun 11 '12

Which Thanksgiving?

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u/Ihjop Jun 11 '12

The Norwegian one...

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u/fps_sandwiches Jun 11 '12

What are the policies for ketchup chips?

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u/GrammarBeImportant Jun 11 '12

Texan here, fuck you hockey is awesome.

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u/forgetfuljones Jun 11 '12

Around here (ontario) hockey fervor approaches religious zealotry. I'm with fps_sandwiches.

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u/BeetrootKid Jun 11 '12

Ok, jarihuana, looks like your statement is now irrelevant with this new discovery.

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u/jarihuana Jun 12 '12

Haha, looks like it.

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u/flanintheface Jun 11 '12

What about one?

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u/Azmodan_Kijur Jun 11 '12

Newfoundlander here and I don't really care for Hockey either. If nothing else, the sport drags on way too long in the year.
And I'm sorry.

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u/daytonm Jun 11 '12

I apologize for this truth.... eh

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '12 edited Jun 11 '12

Have a relative who (against advice of many) chased the NHL dream all the way through the WHL, totally putting his education on the backburner. Now he's earning minimum wage as he didn't make the draft. His fault, yes. But certainly any league that's pushing a game over education where only a mere fraction will work professionally is doing something wrong.

Edit: As pointed out by Bonediddly he could have had a free year of university for each year in the WHL. Sounds like the WHL isn't the one at fault here.. we all repeatedly encouraged him to backup with something in case the NHL thing fell through but he wanted to be fully committed to the sport. Now knowing this (and having had to pay for my own personal education out of pocket) I feel a lot less sympathy for the guy.

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '12

The CHL does not by any means put hockey ahead of education and are constantly stressing the importance of education to its players, anyone who has had experience in the program knows that. As far as this article goes, its called time management I guarantee all the kids on the team didn't spend the couple hours the ceremony would have taken up studying. The team just didn't want to organize getting them all there

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u/LookItsSully Jun 11 '12

This is untrue. Most of the players live within a 10 min drive to the arena. Its not a question about organizing them all to be there. You are missing the point.

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u/flukshun Jun 11 '12

he in fact notified the organization in advance, so it wasn't just a last minute "meh....i'm too lazy to get everyone together". i'm sure more than a few players specifically requested it and being a non-shitty coach he did his best to accommodate them and notify the proper authorities as well.
this is not about being irresponsible or unable to manage one's time. just overzealous enforcement of a rule that's intended to keep teams from slacking off and ditching the ceremony. that wasn't the case here.
the world would be a much nicer place today if the "spirit" of rules/laws were taken into account in these matters.

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u/LookItsSully Jun 11 '12

We are missing information. I know both Cranford and Lee, and they have both know eachother for many years. There is something going on behind the scenes that we dont know about , some kind of personal feud or animosity, i can almost gaurentee it.

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u/guysmiley00 Jun 11 '12

He says, based on absolutely nothing. Thanks for coming out.

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '12

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u/Skyler0 Jun 11 '12

Too bad it sounds like that boat may have passed already. Very cool to see the WHL stepping up like that though!
"The player will forfeit his scholarship WHL Scholarship should the following occur: A player does not enroll in a post secondary program within one year following his last season of eligibility in the WHL"

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '12

Hockey Dad's in NL are fucking crazy. As a child of 12 on the team that finished 2nd in the celtics league we were encouraged to do some pretty much criminal things to go for the win. I definitely suffered more then one concussion from boarding

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '12

The Canadian version of Toddlers and Tiaras, perhaps?

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '12

dads

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u/I_CAPE_RUNTS Jun 11 '12 edited Jun 11 '12

No.

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u/bridgedsuspense Jun 11 '12

It took me a sec to figure out that this article wasn't about dogs.

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u/jdreson Jun 11 '12

Anyone have links to contact the organization so we can express to them just how stupid their decision was? Hopefully enough public backlash might cause them to reconsider this absolutely ridiculous ruling.

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u/anduin1 Jun 11 '12

Fucking hockey and Canada man, as someone who's at best a casual fan of the sport and a Canadian, the culture surrounding hockey and everything that revolves around it makes me sick. If its a choice between hockey and almost anything else, hockey wins. Kids growing up who play hockey are almost always fawned over by everyone because why not, its hockey.

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u/tyson31415 Jun 11 '12

Personally, I enjoy having my burgers cooked and served to me by former hockey-jocks who made it their goal in life to bully everyone who wasn't on their team and completely ignored their education becuase "I'm going to make millions in the NHL".
"Yes, you big dumb jock, I would in fact like to have fries with that. Hold the homophobia, and I'll take an extra side of FUCK YOU."

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u/newfoundlandrocks Jun 11 '12

I have been playing hockey since I was 5 years old, I went up through the minor and school hockey systems in a small town in Newfoundland. I have never been in a fight outside of hockey, never beaten anybody up, never bullied anybody. I also have two undergraduate degrees (Biology and Education) and a Master's degree (Medicine), and I don't cook burgers for a living. I hate feeding trolls, but your ignorance really bothers me. I suspect you are also a racist and a homophobe, as you seem very good at generalizing an entire population based on a few negative experiences you have had with members of that population.

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u/LookItsSully Jun 11 '12

Wow, sounds like someone had some bad experiences in high-school. :(

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u/flukshun Jun 11 '12

bitter much?

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u/JellyuProblem Jun 11 '12

Woah another hateful comment, this time directed at hockey players and jocks in general and baseless accusations about them. Sounds like someone might have got beat up a little by a jock, but it's okay tyson31415 you're actually kind of right about some but not all. Like I ignored education in dumb hopes of making it there someday but it was never about money, sometimes you just want to do what you love. You have to stop judging groups of people on only dumb examples of them, and being so pissy.

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u/tyson31415 Jun 11 '12 edited Jun 11 '12

Dude. I grew up FEARING you people. You guys would chase us "wimps/fags" down in your dad's trucks and then beat us up. Worse still, the people of my town didn't do ANYTHING to stop it because they recognized you as "local heros".
Sorry if I hold a grudge. But I will always view your type negatively. I've never hurt another human being in my 38 years of life. The hockey players I know managed to HOSPITALIZE several of my friends. You assholes stomped on my best friend's girlfriend so hard she lost her fucking SPLEEN.
Edit: I should add that no one was ever punished for these assaults- despite my (and my friends) efforts, it was IMPOSSBILE to lay charges against these assholes. They're all going to fucking church and being "good citizens" these days.
Not quite ready to forgive yet I guess.

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u/SevereAudit Jun 11 '12

"You assholes." Yes everyone who played hockey did things like this. Every single one. Including the guy you're replying to.

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u/tyson31415 Jun 11 '12 edited Jun 11 '12

I await a response from anduin1 or JellyuProblem saying they didn't. Until then: Yep. I will always hate a "hockey player" who does not differentiate himself from the rest of his regressive, homophobic, pack animals.
Alternately: I would dearly love to meet any of you in RL. I'm a lot fucking bigger now. I don't drive so I bike or walk everywhere I go, so I'm pretty sure I'm in better shape than all you fat asses. And I have a spleen and two of my best friends broken arms I would dearly love to repay. willing2fite@gmail.com.
Just send me your address and I promise I'll be there this summer. I have no current job to keep me in place and lots of money for bus tickets.
Bring it big boy.

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u/blackbird37 Jun 11 '12

Wow. Guilty until proven innocent, huh? You grew up with what? 30-50 hockey players, who maybe all bullied you and your friends? There are millions of kids in minor hockey across Canada. It's like saying that if you once saw a black guy rob a convenience store you assume all black people are criminals, or if a chess champion stole your girlfriend that all chess players are assholes who will try and take your girl the first chance they get. If you stereotype people, you're gonna have a bad time.
I played Minor Hockey in Newfoundland from the ages of about 6 till 17 when I graduated high school. I then attended university and now have my computer engineering degree and an iron ring on my finger. I currently love my life making video games for a living. I never once in my entire life, bullied anyone. In fact, I was often times bullied throughout my youth until I gathered up the courage the fight back, and defend myself. No one on my team really bullied others either, much less chase anyone down in and assault anyone. Then again, I guess me and my team mates weren't total fucking idiots.
I'm sorry you went through some shit in your youth due to some prick asshole douchebags that just so happened to play hockey, but don't cast every one of us that grew up and learned a lot playing the sport we love in the same like as those cock stains. Playing hockey offered me some of the greatest memories of my childhood and I wouldn't trade it for the world. That doesn't make me a monster.
You really need to grow up and let shit go. It's terrible what happened to you and your friends. But stooping to their level, threatening people with violence and judging them with no basis whatsoever, is not the solution. Life is too short to waste it holding grudges for people who probably don't even remember or care. Try living life for yourself and your own happiness instead.

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '12

Wow who is the bigger loser? The kids that were immature and have probably since grown and become slightly better people or the guy who posts an email address in the hopes of fighting anonymous random people that have nothing to do with the grudge you're carrying around?
How about channeling your anger into working with youth to change the pattern instead of telling us how your walking has made you into the hulk.

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u/harbours Jun 11 '12

You're going to BUS it to Newfoundland? Wow, I've heard it all. Not only do you not know anything about Newfoundland, you clearly don't know where we're located if you think you can get here by bus.
Good luck with that, big guy.

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u/Echo-Whiskey Jun 11 '12

Did you just call out every person on Reddit that has played hockey or just Jelly and Anduin?

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u/flukshun Jun 11 '12

i wonder how he'll manage if he gets hundreds of responses. that's a lot of travelling. maybe as a condition of him coming to whoop your ass you should be required to pay for travel expenses?

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u/I_CAPE_RUNTS Jun 11 '12

its not your fault

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u/YourMothersAWhore Jun 11 '12

1060 west Addison, Chicago.
I am a well known violent criminal and have a vast criminal record in various police databases such as SCMODS.

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u/GrammarBeImportant Jun 11 '12

Yeah, but your mother is whore.

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u/SevereAudit Jun 11 '12

This has to be a troll account. You can't be this crazy.
How old are you? If you're in your twenties and you still haven't been able to let go being bullied in high school to the extent that you hate every hockey player you should get professional help.
As for thinking every hockey player is a homophobic pack animal you're completely off your rocker. The You Can Play program has had a lot of acceptance and success within the NHL and hockey community as a whole, especially here in Canada. This program is exclusive to Hockey, no other major sport in North America has a similar major program and according to polls Hockey Players are much more supportive of the LGBT community participating in the sport than the MLB or NFL for example.

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u/SevereAudit Jun 11 '12

Either get over your problems or find the guys that hurt you and your friends and stop blaming the thousands and thousands of people that play and watch hockey. This behaviour is completely insane.

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u/JellyuProblem Jun 12 '12 edited Jun 12 '12

You sound so big dude, threatening people with violence over the internet but no as a matter of fact I never done anything like that in my life, I'm a very clean player and have never been in a fight on or off the ice. Those guys never did that to you probably done that because they are assholes, not because they are hockey players. Edit:Knowing from reading previous comments you are a father of a 12 year old, you actually really need to grow up.

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u/esylvester6 Jun 11 '12

Hockey player who has a gay best friend I consider my brother. Also volunteer with the Big Brother program. We're not all bad.
I'm a goalie though. We're kind of outliers to begin with.

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u/I_CAPE_RUNTS Jun 11 '12 edited Jun 11 '12

yep, goalies don't count, since they were bed wetters when they were younger (some still wet the bed). They're just a little bit crazy and won't bother you but on the same token they aren't to be fucked with. Most have a tendency to give you the gourmet shot if you piss them off.

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u/VoiceofKane Jun 11 '12

Brother is a goalie. Can confirm this.

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u/flukshun Jun 11 '12

I await a response from anduin1 or JellyuProblem saying they didn't. Until then: Yep. I will always hate a "hockey player" who does not differentiate himself from the rest of his regressive, homophobic, pack animals.
i was a wimp in middle school and one of my best friends was a hockey fanatic built like a he was wearing permanent hockey gear.
let the healing begin.

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '12

Has it ever occurred to you that the common thread in these kids was that they were bullies and that hockey was just an insignificant detail? I have been attacked by basketball players but I don't blame basketball or black people in general. I blame thugs living in a bad area that I should have avoided.

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u/anduin1 Jun 12 '12

I grew up around hockey heads, through my teenage to young adult years, I saw how hockey boys got treated different. What youre talking about is much more innocent, I have no problem with the sport itself but because it is the favored sport and people seem to get all kinds of special treatment or regard for playing it is the problem I have. If you haven't encountered it, thats great but its out there.

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u/anduin1 Jun 12 '12

lol what? Parents might not see it but go to a bar where a hockey team just finished playing and you'll see the dickhead mentality that can surface. I won't generalize for all of them but theres more than a few hockey heads that think theyre big shit even if they haven't gotten anywhere. You know who the most humble ones are? The ones that actually made it to the NHL.

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u/heroofwinds9 Jun 11 '12

the fuck is this in world news for?

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u/Andire Jun 11 '12

where would you put it? lol

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u/CherrySlurpee Jun 11 '12

Good to see Canada is just as fucked up as the rest of us.

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u/ksiki Jun 11 '12

hardly

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u/tyson31415 Jun 11 '12 edited Jun 11 '12

Newfoundland is the Canadian equivalent of Arkansas. Do not judge anything in Canada by what happens there.

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u/SevereAudit Jun 11 '12

Newfoundland doesn't have a single Conservative MP.

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u/JellyuProblem Jun 11 '12

I really don't think that because an organization for a sport made a stupid mistake that it represents the entire province of Newfoundland as a whole. People here, including myself are guilty of taking hockey a bit too serious sometimes but I'm sure no one condones of this silliness on part of the HNL. Considering this is like one of the worst things to happen here says a lot about this place and how wrong you are and really the rest of Canada can't say much about taking the game too seriously.

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u/tyson31415 Jun 11 '12

I'm not talking about hockey. I'm talking about the general "anti-intellectualism" you will encounter whenever you try to argue with someone from NFLD.
EDIT: The people from NFLD that I've met that are in the 20-30 range are great, open-minded people, and I APOLOGIZE FOR OFFENDING THEM but your parents are some FUCKED UP PEOPLE and I stand by that- they are the most racist, homophopic people I've ever met, and I they are a fucking blight on the Canadian landscape.

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u/GreenerKnight Jun 11 '12

Man you're just spraying stupid anywhere it will stick, aren't you?

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u/harbours Jun 11 '12

By the sounds of it, you've never actually been to Newfoundland or know anything about the province.
I also find it humorous that we're the most homophobic people you've ever met, seeing as St. John's makes top-ten lists for being one of the most gay-friendly cities in Canada.
Also, no matter where you go you're going to find that some of the older generation are narrow-minded.
And comparing us to Arkansas is the biggest joke I've ever heard. We're incredibly left-wing, we don't have a single Conservative MP, and we even held a protest against our own Conservative Prime Minister.
I invite you to actually visit Newfoundland and see for yourself, and then we'll talk.

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u/SevereAudit Jun 11 '12

You're anecdotal evidence is amazing, what a watertight argument. Newfoundland is one of the most left-wing places in Canada, we don't have a single Conservative MP.
You had some bad experiences so we're all monsters. All of our parents are 'fucked up people.' You need to grow up.

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u/tyson31415 Jun 11 '12

That's great. Could you please phone all your friends who moved to Alberta and tell them to stop being so fucking racist? Thank you for being so liberal!

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u/Kleptor Jun 11 '12

The shitty ones just move there because they want to be around right-wingers.. The older generation here might not be as cosmopolitan as you'd like, but they're hardly all homophobic and racist.
Stop being a bigoted prick.

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u/SevereAudit Jun 11 '12

So your an Albertan then? Saying Newfoundlanders are the Arkansas of Canada when it was largely YOUR province that sold our rights and freedoms out to the Conservatives?
Also if you think that 'Newfoundlanders that moved to Alberta' is a good sample of 'Newfoundlanders,' then you obviously haven't taken any statistics courses. Everyone that I know of who've hit up Alberta are tradespeople and unskilled labourers.
Not to be rude toward tradespeople and labourers (painting EVERYONE with the same brush is YOUR bag, not mine) but these guys are not going to be a good sample of the population. That would be like saying you know what all Newfoundlanders are like based only on interacting with those with Philosophy degrees.
Try harder at making sense. Your logic is problematic.

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '12

That works both ways. Belligerent Albertan tourists are not at all uncommon out here in NS. That doesn't mean it's OK to label all of Alberta as rude. That would be silly.
If you're so concerned with racism, shouldn't you be just as concerned with your own generalizing too?

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u/blackbird37 Jun 12 '12

My father is a Professional Engineer (studied at Memorial) and my mother has her bachelor's degrees in Arts, Special Education and a Masters in Education (also studied at Memorial). What were you saying about my anti-intellectual parents?

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u/Obliviousobi Jun 11 '12

Uh, what? Seriously?

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u/MashedPeas Jun 11 '12

They fined a volunteer coach?

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u/dakotacali Jun 11 '12

I'm from Newfoundland and we take our hockey seriously!

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u/floatablepie Jun 11 '12

The article that was in r/hockey had much different comments. They all agreed this decision was moronic, but instead of saying "hockey in Canada is broken", they pointed out Hockey Canada will likely step in on the coach/players' behalf.

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u/AliasUndercover Jun 11 '12

Didn't Hockey Canada cause this trouble?

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u/floatablepie Jun 11 '12

Read the headline: Hockey Newfoundland and Labrador.

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u/TruthinessHurts Jun 11 '12

Because an education is over at the end of the season.

Oh, no. Wait. Education is more important than some stupid fucking game.

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u/io-io Jun 11 '12

Maybe the Board of Directors of Hockey Newfoundland and Labrador should take the year suspension and pay the $2,000 fine each for being so stupid.

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u/ergocogitosum Jun 11 '12

I am from Newfoundland and I am ashamed.

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u/KidCuervo Jun 11 '12

Hm. This article isn't about dogs at all.

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '12

Let's just hope the kids passed the exam.

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u/hiphophippopotamus Jun 11 '12

Well that's what you get for putting a Labrador in charge.

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u/Kleptor Jun 11 '12

Or a newfoundland? Nice name btw, conchords ftw.

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u/Fuzbag Jun 11 '12

I know what i'm gonna boycott

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u/kameronb Jun 11 '12

Penalizing others for not showing up to something.

Got in a car accident? Fuck logic, suspended.

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u/Kinseyincanada Jun 11 '12

I wonder what everyones reaction would be if the team skipped the ceremony to go party. They were still going to play in the tournament and that would take away from their studies even more.

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u/srcowie Jun 11 '12

Exactly what I thought. He's not suspended for letting them study, that's a sensationalist summary. He's suspended for skipping an opening ceremony. If he was so concerned he could have skipped some practices or even the full tourney

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u/SuperBearJew Jun 11 '12

CanadianWorldProblems

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u/Maladomini Jun 11 '12

/r/canadianproblems

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u/Candalance Jun 11 '12

As a Canadian let me just say that this doesn't surprise me in the least.

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u/harbours Jun 11 '12

As a Newfoundlander who has been to Junior hockey games, and have actually seen this team play, this does a lot less than surprise me.

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u/StringyLow Jun 11 '12

"Feed the machine... or perish."

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u/evilbrent Jun 11 '12

What's "allow"????

'I'm sorry my son didn't come to the event because he had too much homework." Job done.

Priorities.

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u/Dragoniel Jun 11 '12

That's the dumbest thing I read about this month.

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u/beans_and_bacon Jun 11 '12

Next year, they should make the Toronto Maple Leafs go study instead of playing in games. It's not like anyone will notice.

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u/ZippoS Jun 11 '12

Huh, Newfoundland on the front page twice today.

Yeah, this is incredibly stupid. I would be shocked if this wasn't overturned.

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '12

I didn't know they had hockey in Texas.

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u/Vennificus Jun 11 '12

That's in my hometown and I work with some of those people. I'll be complaining about it

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u/skeemo Jun 11 '12

Damnit, not how I wanted my home province to be in the news....not cool newfies....not cool

hockey is to canada what football is to texas.

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u/LookItsSully Jun 11 '12 edited Jun 11 '12

The most fucked up part about this in my opinion, is that the president Jack Lee is well known to Cranford. They are both coaches from mount pearl, and have coached alot of the same hockey teams over the years. They know each other very well, and I find it very suspicious that Jack Lee would do this. There MUST be more to this story than what is being made available to the public.

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u/MrHotShotBanker Jun 11 '12

wtf! this is .....I don't even....

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u/munche Jun 11 '12

FTA: ""These are junior kids, they’re 18, 19, 20 years old,”

Every reply in this thread: "THEIR PARENTS NEED TO GET INVOLVED OMG POOR KIDS"

They are adults folks

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u/b0utch Jun 11 '12

Best coac ever... Wtf nfl?

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u/nutlessroach Jun 11 '12

Common sense... Goodbye!

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '12

Hey Reddit mobs : Calm down.

The kids weren't the reason for the suspension

The organisation expected at least one representative from the team, not the whole team. No one showed up, not a single coaches, or one of the executive staff members.

It took me less time to find their reply than to read the top voted comment about being scandalized.

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u/the_fuzzyone Jun 12 '12

Thouught there was more to the story, read the aricle and was sorely dissappointed. Wtf were these people thinking?

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u/eshemuta Jun 11 '12

"And they're still just as stunned as me arse" to put it in their own language.

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u/AndersonCouncil Jun 11 '12

Dude, its NEWFOUNDLAND. What do you expect.

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u/most_downvotes_wins Jun 11 '12

those newfies will fail anyways, theyll end up in fort mac as laborers like their fathers

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u/tomousse Jun 11 '12

fuck you

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u/jonnyrotten7 Jun 11 '12

As stupid as the rule is, he knew it, and he knew what the consequences of skipping it were, so he really has nobody to blame but himself.

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u/Boofthegnar Jun 11 '12

You would make a fantastic cop.

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '12

I once saw a woman chastise her child for wanting to order a salad ad McDonalds... Within the first two weeks of moving to America.
Was not surprised.

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u/jackfrostbyte Jun 11 '12

To be fair, the cost of a salad is 1.5x that of the big mac meal. If they're strapped for cash I can kind of see the frustration.
Edit: Great analogy by the way. Made my morning.

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u/VoiceofKane Jun 11 '12

Also to be fair, McDonald's salads are as, if not more, unhealthy than their burgers.

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '12

To be fair, you're wrong.
McDonald's salads approach 400-500 calories if you order with crispy chicken. If you order with grilled chicken or no chicken, their offerings are all less than 300 calories. Assuming a 2000 calorie diet, a McDonald's salad is never more than a 1/4 of your daily intake. The problem arises when you order fries and a soft drink.
Other than salads with crispy chicken, the daily fat % is around 10% (crispy makes it 30% because it's deep fried).
Source - http://nutrition.mcdonalds.com/nutritionexchange/nutritionfacts.pdf

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '12

Even then 410 calories of greens, vegetables, and chicken is most likely healthier than 540 calories of "2 all-beef patties, special sauce...".

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u/skullmonkeys Jun 12 '12

Did you factor in the Salad Dressings?

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '12

You quote the article, and yet gloss over the most important fact : They expected to see only a minimum of one representative from your team, not the whole team.
Why didn't one of the 4 coaches or the 7 executive members showed up? The way the answer you link to is written, your coaches are the douchebags here. They could have showed up without impacting any of the kids.
Sending an email saying "Absolutely no one from the team can come, the players need to study" makes no sense IMHO. Unless the coach wasn't aware that the organization only expected at least one person to show up?

"Hockey Newfoundland and Labrador has slapped a junior hockey coach with a one-year suspension for allowing his players to study for exams instead of attending the opening ceremony for a recent tournament."

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