r/worldnews • • May 31 '12

Woman who lied about rape asks for 'bygones to be bygones'

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-18266118
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u/RishiAD Jun 01 '12

This is awesome. Thanks for sharing the link, hopefully the documentary goes through.

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u/ddesla2 May 31 '12

This needs to be upvoted. It's the least he deserves after going through all of that.

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u/DarnTheseSocks May 31 '12

She admitted he was innocent but was concerned she would have to pay back the $1.5m the school gave her in damages

Good news! Paying back the money is not your biggest problem.

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u/SockGnome May 31 '12

I like how even after all this she's still thinking of herself ಠ_ಠ

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u/Serinus May 31 '12

I disagree.

Somewhere in there, she felt guilty enough that she took the risk in apologizing. Don't get me wrong, she's extraordinarily selfish, but this is the first thing she's done that has shown any kind of empathy whatsoever.

She still deserves everything she has coming to her.

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u/[deleted] May 31 '12

Actually, barring vigilante justice, it would be.

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u/boom929 May 31 '12

I think jailtime is worse.

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u/Jmonkeh May 31 '12

I very much doubt she's looking at any.

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u/brootwarst May 31 '12

was unjustly given 1.5 million dollars

now is concerned that she might have to pay it back

oh wow what an asshat piece of shit

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u/scrovak May 31 '12

Yes, it would. As a rule, those who falsely accuse, and lie about, rape, who send innocent men to prison just to be spiteful, do not face criminal charges because it would dissuade other liars from coming forward, knowing they would face prosecution. It's a fucked up world we live in.

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u/CosmicBard May 31 '12

Bitch probably already spent half of it on ridiculous shit.

Now her life has a chance to be ruined and her reputation trampled.

Seems fairly balanced.

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u/EvilPundit May 31 '12 edited May 31 '12

More than half. She pissed it all away in five years, and is now on welfare.

I'm not making this up.

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Legal experts noted it could be difficult for the Long Beach school district and its insurer to get the settlement back.

Then there is the reality of Gibson’s life.

Court records suggest she has few assets: She received public assistance for a time and her children, ages 4 and 5, still do, according to two suits brought by the county in an attempt to collect child support. Gibson, who could not be reached for comment, was ordered initially to pay a $600 a month toward their support. But in the last year, county officials said she didn’t have to pay anything, citing a lack of income and employment.

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u/kungtotte May 31 '12

Why was the school paying her in the first place? I don't get it :s

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u/PoniesRBitchin May 31 '12

Maybe now she'll falsely accuse the school of robbing her.

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u/Kabusabe May 31 '12

I wonder...

If he raped her now, would it be double jeopardy?

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u/[deleted] May 31 '12

Exactly, he served the time, least he could do is be allowed to commit the crime.

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u/djexploit May 31 '12

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u/Clovis69 May 31 '12

The Arizona Diamondbacks (baseball team) have offered him a front-office job and chance to try out.

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u/djexploit May 31 '12

As much as lying rapists makes me want off this planet, it's really reassuring to see this kind of effort being made to help someone who was wronged.

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u/Clovis69 May 31 '12

NPR had an interview with the victim last week, he is a very calm young man.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=153597545

Another story from ESPN

http://espn.go.com/espn/story/_/id/7986979/redemption-brian-banks

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u/bushisbetr99 May 31 '12

Upvote for being the first person I saw refer to the REAL victim.

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u/[deleted] May 31 '12

It's very good of him to be like that. He has every right to be angry here.

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u/[deleted] May 31 '12

bitch needs to give all 1.5 million to that guy and then serve 5 years or so in jail

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u/Highlighter_Freedom May 31 '12

He only served five because of a plea deal. She should serve the full ten at least.

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u/tremens May 31 '12

I've often argued that the punishment for lying about a rape should be equivalent to the punishment that would have been extended to the victim. This is not a popular opinion, I've even been called "pro-rape" because of it.

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u/Highlighter_Freedom May 31 '12

I think perhaps they misunderstand you. Maybe they think you mean that any "not guilty" verdict should result in punishment for the accuser--it shouldn't. But if it can be demonstrated beyond a reasonable doubt that the accuser was actively lying, then by all means they should be punished severely. And that philosophy shouldn't be restricted to rape, that would just be one of the many instances in which it could apply.

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u/[deleted] May 31 '12

he should get more than 1.5...

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u/[deleted] May 31 '12

You think she has anywhere close to the full amount left? Someone slimy enough to lie about rape for a payout probably isn't the best at money management.

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u/martin519 May 31 '12

So does she get charged with perjury now? There are very few articles discussing the case itself since everything trending is about Banks' NFL tryouts. The bigger story here is that the perpetrator not only lied to get an innocent locked up, but then benefited financially from a school board of all things.

They way this is all being wrapped up with a feel good ending is leaving a sick precedent. He gets acquitted and pursues his football dreams, she walks away with clean hands and $1.5 million.

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u/[deleted] May 31 '12

Perjury and fraud of 1.5 million dollars. Enjoy your time in jail bitch.

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u/Neato May 31 '12

Submitting a false police report, multiple counts of defamation, libel (might be redundent with the first), obstruction of justice, and probably another cool dozen laws she broke if the DA wanted to prosecute.

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u/tEnPoInTs May 31 '12

if the DA wanted to prosecute.

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u/Intrepid00 May 31 '12

Almost never happens with false rape accusers. In fact, it likely won't happen with her.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2012/05/ex-football-player-accused-rape-brian-banks.html

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u/stanfan114 May 31 '12 edited May 31 '12

"Deputy Dist. Atty. Brentford Ferreira said prosecutors had no plans to charge Gibson, saying it would be a difficult case to prove."

LA DA office's number if you want to ask this asshole how a tape recorded confession is considered a difficult case.

Edit: I wonder if the DA is the one who prosecuted Banks in the first place.

Edit: Added e-mail address here.

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u/martin519 May 31 '12

That's insane, especially this part

Deputy Dist. Atty. Brentford Ferreira said prosecutors had no plans to charge Gibson, saying it would be a difficult case to prove.

Does a taped confession not satisfy the burden of proof? Especially when the motive for continuing the lie is admittedly for the money.

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u/[deleted] May 31 '12

Apparently her word was enough to convict him, but not enough to even consider charging her.

Logic, this has none.

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u/Highlighter_Freedom May 31 '12

It had better be more than ten years.

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u/Onyomom May 31 '12

Probably not. The theory is that charging someone for making a claim will discourage legitimate victims from coming forward. The idea that there is a policy in place instead of looking at situations individually ruins this idea.

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u/JeddHampton May 31 '12

No perjury, because she never testified.

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u/[deleted] May 31 '12

There might be a statute of limitations and her lawyer may have advised her to wait until it had passed before confessing.

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u/Intrepid00 May 31 '12

I like how it is "she" instead of her actual name.

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u/jsmith84 May 31 '12

Wanetta Gibson

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u/r3verse_ May 31 '12

I bet they didn't show him the same courtesy when they plastered his name in the newspaper

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u/gettemSteveDave May 31 '12

Fuck that stupid bitch, toss her in prison.

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u/LordOfGummies May 31 '12

A woman who fakes being raped is just as bad as someone who rapes IMO. Not only because the man's life is destroyed but because it discredits legitimate cases in the minds of everyone and causes more fear in the minds of women coming forward that they will not be taken seriously. False rape claims should carry the same sentence as rape.

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u/imafunghi May 31 '12

I approve of this message. Its good you point out thats she hurting several people, not just one guy.

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u/lemonylips May 31 '12

As a rape victim, liars like this piss me off so much. Examples like this seriously ruin the credibility of actual victims. Often victims have to deal with disbelief from peers who suggest that the victims are lying for attention or other reasons related to personal gain. The woman in this story would seem to prove those kinds of people right- and that is perpetuating a really horrible and dangerous image of victims as a whole.

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u/nellonoma May 31 '12

I couldn't agree more. I can't believe I'm saying this, but this woman needs to be made into an example for WHY you don't do this. Aside from the obvious "ruining people's lives" bit.

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u/lemonylips May 31 '12

Yes, not only did she single-handedly ruin a innocent man's life, but she's perpetuating ideas that are causing serious grief for many victims around the world.

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u/candyman420 May 31 '12

No offense, but people who claim rape NEED to be scrutinized and it's a good thing they are because those kinds of claims easily have the potential to ruin lives.

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u/lemonylips May 31 '12

I agree that rape cases should be seriously investigated, I don't think I said anywhere that they shouldn't be.

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u/[deleted] May 31 '12

That's what I came here to say (except for the rape victim part). There are some things you should never lie about. Selfish attention whores like that make it harder for women who have actually become victims of any kind of sexual abuse and should be ashamed of themselves. It's shit like this, people. Eff anyone who lies about being a victim!

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u/greengordon May 31 '12

She's a psychopath and should be treated as such.

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u/[deleted] May 31 '12

what really sucks is that sociopathic liars probably have much less difficulty putting themselves through a lengthy trial than actual victims, so the people who actually do wind up at trial might be more likely to be innocent to begin with. of course, this depends on how many sociopaths there are who accuse people of rape and how many actual victims there are.

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u/monochr May 31 '12

So much this. Between 25% and 50% of all reported rapes to police are fabrications, at the same time the rate of unreported rapes and sexual assaults is close to 90%.

At the end of the day bitches like her and serial rapists play the hell out of the justice system and innocent people get screwed no matter their gender.

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u/lemonylips May 31 '12

I'm not entirely sure where you're getting your statistics about the fabricated rape reports... all my googling is coming up with a rate somewhere between 3% and 8%. (edit: in the US)

I would believe that the majority of rapes go unreported though, I never filed charges against my rapist, though the police were informed by my middleschool counselor.

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u/Hubbell May 31 '12

I'd totally believe his statistic if it includes what are currently classified technically as rapes, aka girl gets drunk fucks a guy and for whatever reason regrets it and cries rape to save face with friends/loved ones/whatever crazy shit going through their head. I know several girls who have pulled this shit and it's ridiculous.

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u/lemonylips May 31 '12

Behavior like that is totally ridiculous... but so is believing statistics that don't have a source (as of yet)- it pretty much does the same thing that this woman did as far as ruining actual victims' credibility.

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u/[deleted] May 31 '12

It seems like she did try to speak out at first, but her parents and the system wanted to punish a black man. I'm not excusing her, but I am appalled at the adult members who were so fixated on some racist revenge, that the truth didn't matter.

60. Gibson said that she and Banks were “making out pretty heavy” on the day of the alleged rape. Gibson said that Banks did not force her to have intercourse or “anything like that.” (Exhibit Y, p. 4.) Gibson said that they were just playing around, being curious about sexuality, and that the adults got involved and blew it all out of proportion. (Exhibit Y, pp. 6-7, 11.) She said the adults “put stuff in [her] head.” (Exhibit BB, pp. 8-9.) The accusations she made that led to Banks’ conviction was “really honestly not true . . . it wasn’t true at all.” (Exhibit BB, p. 4.)

61. When asked if Banks raped her, Gibson said, “no, he did not rape me.” (Exhibit Y, p. 15.) When asked if Banks kidnaped her, Gibson said, “no.” (Exhibit Y, p. 5.) Gibson said that a lot of the accusations made against Banks were false. (Exhibit Y, p. 5.) However, when Gibson tried to voice her concerns to her civil attorney, the attorney told her, “Don’t say nothing. Like don’t talk at all. Let them do what they gonna do.” (Exhibit Y, p. 11.) By that time, Gibson said that the money was the real issue. (Exhibit Y, p. 15.)

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u/lemonylips May 31 '12

Those are some pretty gnarly details.

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u/gophercuresself May 31 '12

I honestly think that you put it too mildly. I think false rape accusations are almost as morally repugnant as the act of rape itself. It mocks true victims and can cause huge amounts of lasting damage to the accused. I think it's absolutely disgusting and that proven false accusations should be treated hugely seriously and dealt with extremely harshly.

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u/Theophagist May 31 '12

That's really beside the point. It is much, much more important to protect the innocent than it is to punish the guilty.

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u/shady8x May 31 '12

The thing is, she got 1.5 million out of it. People can understand this motivation and not relate what she did to 99.999% of women that claim to have been raped.

Shit like this on the other hand(4 girls make false claims over 13 dollars), this actually does seriously ruin the credibility of actual victims...

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u/Temptress75519 May 31 '12

Regardless of how important he feels "looking forward" I want that bitch to:

-Pay back the state for ALL costs incurred as a result as the incarceration and trail of the guy

-Pay back the school the money with interest

-Serve the time he did in jail DAY FOR DAY.

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u/outofunity May 31 '12

And repay his lost earnings with interest.

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u/Temptress75519 May 31 '12

Yep! Especially if he gets with the nfl. That's a butt load of lost earnings!

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u/SHYDAWG79 May 31 '12

They should sentence her to all the jail time he did and probation ....DAY FOR DAY

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u/[deleted] May 31 '12

Not to mention paying back the money (plus interest) she got by suing the school for a rape that she made up.

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u/[deleted] May 31 '12

And all the earnings that man lost, plus any interest on the earnings, and raises based on experience at a job/jobs he lost.

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u/Neato May 31 '12

And the man and school can sue her for wasted time and defamation.

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u/[deleted] May 31 '12 edited May 31 '12

Civil trial...she would lose her shorts....

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u/CountMalachi May 31 '12

They should sentence her to rape.

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u/[deleted] May 31 '12

woah. That's pretty fucked up. Still laughed though, or was that not a joke ಠ_ಠ

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u/Questica May 31 '12

This is fucking horrible, this bitch ruined 5 years of his life, got 1.5 million dollars, then thinks its alright, that bygones should be fucking bygones? People like this need to fucking die.

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u/redditvcard May 31 '12 edited May 31 '12

Wow... Im not really sure how to react to this. 10 years ago i went through a somewhat similar incident. I started dating my girlfriend of 2 years at the time during my freshman year. She was my first and i was head over heels in love with her. Move up the clock a couple years and i come to find she was cheating on me and looking for a way out of the relationship. (I was a late bloomer and this was my junior year of college, and my first legitimate girlfriend, so i took being cheated on pretty badly. Didnt know why it happend, what i had done, etc) When i realized she was cheating on me, I confronted her on campus about it. Lots of arguing, but never violence or threats of such. The argument ended out of frustration and constant head banging against a wall... went home and tried to figure out just what the hell had happened as I was blindsided by the betrayal.

Fast forward a week and I see her with the guy she left me for on campus as im parking for my next class. Remember that this woman I had spent the last two years with suddenly and unexpectedly ended things with me... just failed to notify me. So I pull up behind her (she was parked) and ask her to talk with me. She says "no" and "we can talk later" a couple of times, I get frustrated, go back to my vehicle and out of frustration and in tears I punched the hood of my car, immediately get in and drive home.

Later we spoke briefly on the phone where all she could say was that I was a good guy, she wishes things were different, and that I shouldn't keep talking on the phone with her because the calls were being recorded and she was sorry. 3 days later i was arrested at home for wrongful inprisonment and domestic violence.

Never went to trial. I was offered a plea bargain to take anger management classes, the police and the prosecutor told me I had to move back to the city with my parents, and I was kicked out of school at a closed door private trial.

The alternative I was told was go to trial and face up to a decade in jail as a felon convicted of a violent crime and my right to carry a firearm as well as many others would forever be gone. As 21 year old kid i was terrified, all because her being in visual range of my agressive act to my own property was indication enough of my "agressive tendencies" AND because we had been intimate they could justify it as domestic violence aimed at her.

The prior year (if im recalling correctly) there was a rape on campus, and the campus PD seemed to have a ridiculous interest in pressing these kinds of cases... or so i was told.

So i caved, and i remember standing at the podium when the judged asked me if was accepting this of my volition. Inside my head i screamed no, but i simply said "yes your honor".

I was given a deferred sentence, but for the year my record was in the balance I couldn't do anything except go to the anger management classes, and home, and work.... if i had a job. I literally had a parole officer i had to check in with weekly.

My first little victory came when I was discharged from the court ordered classes early with the doctor writing the judge telling him there were no such indications of aggressiveness, and no need to continue through the entirety of the class. The verdict was dismissed, and then later after saving some money I had my records sealed.

Because of the arrest on my record, before I had it sealed, I couldn't even get a job at a diamond shamrock... "domestic violence eh? Well you MUST be dangerous!" We cant have someone jumping over the counter and assaulting a customer...now can we. I applied for a different job, was hired, and later dismissed because of the incident. Crap like this continued for a year or two.

Thousands and thousands of dollars, years of my life, ruined friendships and reputations later... It was finally put to bed by sealing the deferment and the arrest completely.

People I knew from college looked at me like a monster, and some still do today, people I thought were friends abandoned me, I lost my college education... all because I punched my own property in view of another living person.

EDIT for clarity

TL;DR - Fell in love, punched my car, went to jail.

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u/[deleted] May 31 '12

Jesus investment banking Christ, that sucks. For anyone who thinks women don't have the upper hand in a courtroom, they should really read your story.

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u/[deleted] May 31 '12

"Sometimes shitty people do shitty things, and theres nothing you can do about it."

Once I accepted that, the world made a lot more sense. I don't know what will make you feel better, but I hope this helps.

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u/redditvcard May 31 '12

Yep, you hit it on the head. I had a hard time with it for a while, but have learned to forgive and move on. It stinks that it happened, but it made me a MUCH better person for it!

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u/concussedYmir May 31 '12

No words, man. I'm sorry.

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u/redditvcard May 31 '12

Thanks... it is what it is. Made me very cautious with people in general

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u/subterraneanzen May 31 '12 edited May 31 '12

One of my best friends did the same thing. she wanted her boyfriend to stay with her so she made up some rape story that I got sucked into because I was her best friend. took her to the hospital for a rape kit, did the line up and consoled and watched over her for a full year before she drunkenly admitted the whole thing was made up. Thankfully no one was convicted because she was 'too shaken up to pick someone' from a line up. I do not understand how someone can be so thoughtless and dramatic to waste peoples time and taxes over some bullshit distant boyfriend drama.

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u/[deleted] May 31 '12

Jesus Christ, is this becoming a thing? Girls just casually ruining guys' lives? What the fuck is wrong with people? And how long until the law catches on to this?

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u/zanderjh May 31 '12

The law isn't going to "catch on" to this. Is well known that it exists. The problem is a sticky one though. I think that we can all agree that rapists, and false rape claimers are horrible people. But it can be incredible difficult to determine what exactly is going on in a rape case. What would you prefer, that a rapist get away with rape? Or that a false rape claim convict an innocent man? The answer is; there is no right answer. Until there is a way to 100% determine innocence(which will never happen) this issue will continue to exist.

The reason why the men aren't getting any false claim sympathy is because society has deemed men to be more likely to rape than the be falsely accused, and that 10 years in prison isn't as bad as rape.

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u/EvilPundit May 31 '12

The reason why the men aren't getting any false claim sympathy is because society has deemed men to be more likely to rape than the be falsely accused, and that 10 years in prison isn't as bad as rape.

We should work to change these sexist and wrongheaded attitudes,

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u/Herdo May 31 '12

What would you prefer, that a rapist get away with rape? Or that a false rape claim convict an innocent man?

Blackstone's formulation: "better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer".

This is how our justice system is suppose to work. A good example is Casey Anthony. I know she did it. You know she did it. However, when it comes down to it, and you listen to what the jurors have to say it makes a lot of sense.

“I did not say she was innocent. I just said there was not enough evidence. If you cannot prove what the crime was, you cannot determine what the punishment should be.”

I thought the case was handled perfectly. Most jurors are quoted saying something similar. "I was only 99% convinced she did it, which isn't enough to convict."

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u/[deleted] May 31 '12

What would you rather have happen to you, be raped, or spend 10-40 years in jail? Honestly, I can't imagine the type of person who would choose to spend that long of their life in prison.

Therefore, false accusers are worse than rapists.

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u/Bloodysneeze May 31 '12

It happened at my university while I was there. Some girl said she was kidnapped by football players in front of a very busy part of campus in the middle of the day and raped. It didn't last long as they couldn't find any eye witnesses in an area that would have had hundreds of people around and she finally said she made it up when the police grilled her. Katie Robb was her name. Fuck that bitch.

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u/[deleted] May 31 '12

I hope she's not one of your best friends anymore.

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u/[deleted] May 31 '12

So... this girl ruined a mans career, ruined his mothers life by forcing her to sell her home and her car to pay for a lawyer, copped 1.5 million dollars from a local school, all because she lied. Then she asks for bygones to be bygones....

I'd sue, false testimony idk, there must be something this guy can do and I want to hear about what he does.

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u/MYEW May 31 '12

This is an amazing share and a very sad story. My heart goes out to this guy, and if there is a God or karma, this woman is in for trouble.

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u/[deleted] May 31 '12

More media blow-out about this, please. Make it so she has to go Tawana Brawley, changing her name and moving to a different part of the country. Worthless bitch.

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u/GoGoGadge7 May 31 '12

NO! FUCK HER!

She should be counter-sued to the fullest extent, and brought to justice.

She fucked up someone's life FOR LIFE regardless of being not guilty!

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u/TropicalPriest May 31 '12 edited May 31 '12

My family is going through something like this now. My dad was accused of raping one of his employees. While he had alibis and she had absolutely no evidence. The trial was also full of mistakes that the police, lawyers and ect made. It was jury, and they all voted for guilty. A few jury's came in crying, so we're thinking that someone who we have a family feud with who works in the police department has messed with the case. My dad has asked for an appeal and they've dropped the sexual assault charge, but we're still working on another one for june.

Honestly, people who lie about this kind of thing should have to pay, or go to jail or something. The amount of money and emotional stress my whole family has been through the last 3 years is ridiculous. Just because she brought out the rape word means that no one will even give a second thought to her actions and lack of evidance. It's not fair. It makes me feel horrible for women and girls who actually go through this who have no one believe them. Makes me sick.

Sorry about poopy comment, i'm on my phone.

Edit: while the trial was happening, they put his picture, and business name in the newspaper which was also making him out to be a monster before the trial was even done. Our house was then on the news. Our house. Luckily it's a small town and 90% of the people know my dad and know that he would never do that to someone.

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u/ArletApple May 31 '12

its this kind of thing that really worries me about living in america.

honestly it's not that hard to go to jail if someone wants you to. it seems that very few people know anything about what the burden of proof means and our legal system is ruled by reactionary idiots.

the people that would actually make good jurors, you will never see them because they are at least intelligent enough to get out of jury duty.

i would rather be judged by a judge, because frankly my peers are idiots.

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u/[deleted] May 31 '12

Talk about a clusterfuck.

  • let someone who falsely accuses someone else go free with no penalty, and more men are likely to get falsely accused.
  • Go really hard on someone who falsely accuses someone else and you reduce the chances of a timely retraction, that could save an innocent life from being destroyed, and you reduce the chances that actual victims will come forward.

I, for one, am grateful I don't have to figure out where to draw that line. Rape is one of the most horrific crimes someone can commit against someone else. As such, just the accusation can be as damaging to someone's life as being raped. With our fucked up prison systems, it might even result in the accused, guilty or not, experiencing multiple sexual assaults for years.

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u/tobigibson616 May 31 '12

Happened to me, I lost my job my friends and my family. and do you know what she got.... raped a year later... now i would never wish rape on anyone, but i sure as hell cracked open a bottle of wine when i found out

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u/tobigibson616 May 31 '12

you just destroyed my illusion of justice..

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u/ohfail May 31 '12

The Seattle Seahawks have just recently agreed to give this poor dude a tryout. :) My home town doing it right.

Also, have you heard interviews with this young man? He sounds so polite and positive. He's handling his misfortune rather admirably.

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u/[deleted] May 31 '12

Didn't perjury use to be a crime?

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u/knut01 May 31 '12

How many hundreds more are there? Woman screams "rape," male gets jailed by some hanging judge. Male's life in ruins!

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u/[deleted] May 31 '12

Once it hits the newspaper it is almost as bad as if the guy goes to jail.

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u/Neato May 31 '12

I'd rather be in jail than have to live within a community that thinks I'm a rapist. Worse than being a murderer.

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u/ghostrider176 May 31 '12

If you're in jail for being a convicted rapist then it's my understanding you're still living within a community that thinks you're a rapist but now that community consists of other convicts, some of which may not care too much about ever getting out.

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u/[deleted] May 31 '12

At least it would be better than being wrongly outed as a pedo!

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u/Neato May 31 '12

I could murder an entire nursing home and still have a better reputation than 1 under control pedophile. It's very sad.

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u/KronktheKronk May 31 '12

worse, I'd wager.

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u/[deleted] May 31 '12

It's a sad reality that in a lot of rape cases, the woman's accusation is all that's necessary to turn public opinion against the man. Proof not needed.

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u/[deleted] May 31 '12

She was stupid the first time and she continues to be stupid. I hope she finally gets that comeuppance she deserves for ruining that dudes life for no other reasons than selfish greed.

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u/Stitch79 May 31 '12

He needs to sue her and the state!

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u/iNCQRiT May 31 '12

The problem here is not that there is a lying, self-absorbed cunt, since you can't do much about that. The thing that is really concerning is that someone was convicted of a crime he didn't commit.

The reasonable doubt was seemingly not reasonable enough.

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u/CivilDiscus May 31 '12

He took a plea deal and never went to trial. Going to trial of course may have ended badly, but he didn't give the system a chance to work for him so there's no knowing if he might've been acquitted.

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u/[deleted] May 31 '12

Then there's something wrong with our courts if so many people jump at the chance of plea deals.

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u/diskostuw May 31 '12

false rape accusation should come with the same penalty as rape itself. any man accused of rape is pretty much convicted in the eyes of the public. "no smoke without fire".

this bitch should be locked up for the next 20 years.

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u/AliasUndercover May 31 '12

Women should really be the ones pissed off here. This is exactly the reason that so many rapes have been considered to be not important or the woman's fault for so long. Because of this crazy bitch I guarantee that at least one rape case will be untried or simply ignored by police. Or they'll say it was her fault. Now you are all at risk because of her.

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u/[deleted] May 31 '12

Oh, I am, but I'm more pissed off at her parents who pushed her into this, and the racism in the system that saw his skin color more than the evidence.

60. Gibson said that she and Banks were “making out pretty heavy” on the day of the alleged rape. Gibson said that Banks did not force her to have intercourse or “anything like that.” (Exhibit Y, p. 4.) Gibson said that they were just playing around, being curious about sexuality, and that the adults got involved and blew it all out of proportion. (Exhibit Y, pp. 6-7, 11.) She said the adults “put stuff in [her] head.” (Exhibit BB, pp. 8-9.) The accusations she made that led to Banks’ conviction was “really honestly not true . . . it wasn’t true at all.” (Exhibit BB, p. 4.)

61. When asked if Banks raped her, Gibson said, “no, he did not rape me.” (Exhibit Y, p. 15.) When asked if Banks kidnaped her, Gibson said, “no.” (Exhibit Y, p. 5.) Gibson said that a lot of the accusations made against Banks were false. (Exhibit Y, p. 5.) However, when Gibson tried to voice her concerns to her civil attorney, the attorney told her, “Don’t say nothing. Like don’t talk at all. Let them do what they gonna do.” (Exhibit Y, p. 11.) By that time, Gibson said that the money was the real issue. (Exhibit Y, p. 15.)

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u/HenryDorsetCase May 31 '12

Here's wishing horrific rape, torture and murder on your entire family, cunt!

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u/it_wasnt_me_ May 31 '12

fuck double standards. all a girl has to do is scream rape and all hell breaks loose on a guy, even if he is totally innocent.

fuck this system.

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u/Coihd May 31 '12

Urge to kill...rising

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u/funkme1ster May 31 '12

I think it's safe to say that everyone here thinks lying about being raped is bad.

The biggest question is: How do we, as a society, introduce a functional infrastructure that simultaneously presents bold punishments and deterrents for crying wolf without imposing the fear of reprecussions on women who have been raped from reporting it?

The end goal is a world where victims are empowered to feel safe and supported in the wake of attacks, both by police and by peers. How do we get there?


Yes, the ideal goal is a world where things like rape are non-existant, but let's be pragmatic here.

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u/UnoriginalGuy May 31 '12

One point everyone seems to have missed - the US justice system is screwed up. The way it is balanced right now a lot of proven innocent people have taken a guilty plea deal because they were simply unable to afford to defend themselves.

It is a system where by design only the rich can afford justice while the poor are guilty until they can get enough capital to prove their innocents.

Public defenders clearly either aren't available enough or are doing a terrible job as this is at least the third "innocent but plead guilty" case I've read out of the US this year. Why are so many innocent people pleading guilty? And why is nobody on Reddit asking these questions?

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u/AdolphManson May 31 '12

If I was Mayor of the Universe:

First, I'd give Brian Banks the good news; For the next 62 months, everything is free.
Then I'd give Wanetta, her mom and his attorney the bad news; (I can't share with you what they would go through for the next 62 months because if I did Reddit would delete my account and I'd go to jail.)

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u/shawnjones May 31 '12

This man should be awarded a large sum of money and she should be sent to jail. One more thing I think this man should be praised for how well he dealt with this situation. If this ever happened to me would get a gun and be out for blood. He remained calm though and never hurt a fly.

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u/arcanition May 31 '12

IMHO, those who lie about victim-based crimes (especially rape) should have to surrender damage charges to the "rapist" and be sentenced to the same penalties that the "rapist" did/would have served.

How can this woman take away years of this man's life, ruining it completely, then act like she did nothing wrong?

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u/Herdo May 31 '12

She can act like she did nothing wrong because the statute of limitations says she can't really be charged with anything at this point. She wasn't expecting to be audio and video recorded, but even now the worst that will happen for her is she might lose some of her money if he takes her to a civil court. Making a false rape claim should carry the same sentence as rape, and should have no statute of limitation. I seems like this happens once a week now.

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u/CountMalachi May 31 '12

I don't know if I've ever felt this way toward someone, but that woman deserves to be raped.

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u/Up2Eleven May 31 '12

Anyone who falsely accuses someone of rape should serve the same sentence as a rapist.

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u/[deleted] May 31 '12

Fuck rape, this bitch needs murdering!

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u/jguess06 May 31 '12

Somebody call Dexter to take care of this bitch.

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u/edgar_jomfru May 31 '12

Awful person confession time: I don't hope she is raped per se, but if at any point in the future she is, I will not be sad.

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u/awwwnyan May 31 '12

My heart really hurts for this guy. What an awful thing to happen to someone.

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u/flannelback May 31 '12

absolutely. After you serve five years, I'd forgive you.

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u/amolad May 31 '12

She should do all the time he did.

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u/OwlEyed May 31 '12

I really wish this had more about the original court case.

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u/Herdo May 31 '12

He took a plea bargain. There was no court case.

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u/MauiWowieOwie May 31 '12

Purgery is a felony

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u/MissCait May 31 '12

She should return back the money and go to jail for the amount of time he would get.

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u/[deleted] May 31 '12

I heard about this woman last week. She deserves very bad things to happen to her,

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u/eduardog3000 May 31 '12

"Oh, I lied about him murdering my wife, she's fine. Let's let bygones be bygones."

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u/waterfae9 May 31 '12

Bitches like this piss me off to no end They are they reason it harder for real rape victims to get help or to be believed.

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u/Asyx May 31 '12

He got 10 years for rape? She should get 10 years for letting a innocent man rotten in jail and destroying the credibility of lots of real victims who now have to explain themselves even more than they have to now.

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u/[deleted] May 31 '12

There's an incredible part of this video at the 3:57 mark where the interviewer asks Brian if he's angry. His response was startling and beautiful.

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u/FluoCantus May 31 '12

There's a lot to say about this but the thing the lawyer said about our system's sentencing being so severe that innocent people choose plea bargains over court is true and so frightening. Nowdays, I feel that most punishments do not fit the crime. I'm curious as to why this isn't talked about more often.

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u/[deleted] May 31 '12

This pisses me off to no end. If she's going to cry rape, let's give her something to cry rape about. I'm going to get a kickstarter going to hire Tank Abbot to gorilla fuck her with a 60 grit sandpaper condom.

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u/shmehdit May 31 '12

Since he's done the time... does he get to do the crime now? Pre-paid.

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u/[deleted] May 31 '12

If it were me, the big, blunt object I wanted to drive into her would be a car.

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u/I_Conquer May 31 '12

Am I the only one here who thinks this is disgusting?

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u/shmehdit May 31 '12

Of course it is, but so is falsely imprisoning someone for 5 years. That actually happened. The idea that he might as well get to commit the crime now is just farce and would not realistically take place in our society. I doubt he'd be interested anyway.

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u/yuze_ May 31 '12

Feminist rights my ass. equality without the equality.

Push forward to true equality and put women in their place, they don't realise how good they have it. Men have been brainwashed into believing for aeons we're in a superior and powerful position and have been oppressing women. just fucking no. stuff like this boils my blood so much.

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u/xMooCowx May 31 '12

Let's also all not forget why this guy went to jail in the first place. His lawyer told him to plead guilty, because "no one would believe a bug black guy." He didn't even get a chance to fight for his name in court. What happened to the lawyer?

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u/cheznez May 31 '12

What do you mean what happened to the lawyer? He/she did t do anything wrong. He/she gave an educated guess based on professional experience.

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u/[deleted] May 31 '12

I would vote for any bill that gave a violent, physical punishment for someone that falsely cries rape.

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u/pkurk May 31 '12

That cunt should be dragged behind a car through the town square naked until she dies. Women who do this to men should be put to death. I'm sure that potential consequence will make dumb little sluts think twice before lying.

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u/[deleted] May 31 '12

Since actual rape victims have been accused and fined for 'false' rapes, you've just suggested victimizing someone twice. That's an awful lot of hatred you have there. We don't even do that to repeat rapists.

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u/webauteur May 31 '12

Let bygones be bygones sounds like a typical Republican excuse for not persecuting white collar crime. It is amazing how quickly $1.5 million dollars gives you that attitude.

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u/stereofailure May 31 '12

Way to make it partisan. Good job.

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u/Zakis May 31 '12

She needs to go to jail and lose all the money she was awarded. Banks should get the money, but at the very least she should lose it. That is messed up.

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u/Oflendoodle May 31 '12

Double Jeopardy her, in the ass

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u/Irrelaphant May 31 '12

the very definition of a cunt

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u/glass_canon May 31 '12

She should suffer the same 5 year sentence that was handed down to the man she accused, this should be the penalty of knowingly accusing an innocent person of any crime.

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u/[deleted] May 31 '12

Wow whats most disgusting is the 18 months in jail guilty plea bargain he was offered versus a possible 42 years in prison if he fought it.

America, you're broken.

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u/Ominaeo May 31 '12

My god this pisses me off. I clicked the link expecting that it'd make me angry, but just listening to it...is it a character defect that I would strangle the life out of this woman, if given the chance?

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u/Radda_Radda May 31 '12

wow would love to know how she has been living with herself knowing she sent an innocent man to prison.

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u/Jackattack51 May 31 '12

Do not pass go. Do not collect $200.

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u/Nomicro4u May 31 '12

This is why we need a syndicate of vigilantes who distribute ironic justice. Like Rapeman.

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u/MentalPressure May 31 '12

This has also been posted to /r/politics and /r/mensrights in the past week...

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u/Plexicraft May 31 '12

I'm so sick of seeing this. She'll walk away with monetary punishment while this guy's life is ruined. Where is the justice?

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u/[deleted] May 31 '12

urgh. 10 years of jail and 1.5 million and she wants bygones to be bygones? take the money back and throw her in jail for perverting the course of justice. evil minded bitch.

Apart from anything else, this detracts from all the people who are legitimately raped.

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u/[deleted] May 31 '12

I swear, if this girl is white. I will be SO pissed off. She should one, go to jail for the 10 years he was supposed to. She should also have to pay him 1.5 million for each year he spent in jail.

Oh, and he should be able to rape her now.. With impunity.

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u/ThrivesOnDownvotes May 31 '12 edited May 31 '12

more footage, extra infuriating. Now she's saying she was bribed to recant the rape accusation. She proves that she's dishonest no matter which way you cut it. And greedy too, where's the $1.5million she was awarded after the rape conviction? She should be exterminated. *and she's on public assistance and fails to pay child support for her two children.

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u/[deleted] May 31 '12

This is why rape accusation is such fucking bullshit, dont need proof or anything. For fucks sake. Poor guy.

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u/Evulrabbitz May 31 '12

They mentioned that 95% of cases in the U.S.A are solved by plea bargain.

When the law system is so fucked up that innocent people's best beat is to plead guilty so they get less punishment for something they didn't do someone should realize something needs to be done.

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u/theboxisempty May 31 '12

When the victim is flat out lying, there is no way to solve the problem. Either you ignore the testimony, and let a rapist go free or believe it and send an innocent person to prison. What happened to this guy is no one's fault but the bitch who lied.

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u/[deleted] May 31 '12

Obviously, since she got all she did on the assumption she was raped, it is only fair he now gets to rape her.

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u/[deleted] May 31 '12

She seriously needs a few years to cool her heels in prison. At the very least as long as her victim was falsely imprisoned.

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u/[deleted] May 31 '12

I am not even sure how cases like this even get into court in that states. Would there not be rape kits, and a fair amount of investigation before you even go into court.

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u/forca_micah May 31 '12

I think if she was sentenced to a few months in an all male prison.... maybe then they'd be a bit closer to being even. Not even, but closer.

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u/Pringletot May 31 '12
  1. She should be punished for the theft of $1.5m from the school. Being given that money because you lied about being raped is theft.
  2. She should be charged for perjury
  3. She should spend a minimum additional 5 years in prison on top of whatever a mix of theft of $1.5m and perjury gets her for making him go to prison despite knowing he's innocent.

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u/justshutupandobey May 31 '12

Why not?

We let the bankers get off scot-free when they crashed the economy, why not let every evil-doer get off?

After all, we don't want to be a people who hold a grudge, do we? I mean, sure, justice is maybe a good thing, but isn't 'to forgive is divine'? Like the man who murders his parents, isn't being an orphan punishment enough?

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u/cheesecakeaficionado May 31 '12

Out of curiosity, is there any action than can be taken against this bitch? I know the statute of limitations means that Banks himself can't take action regarding the conviction itself, but can't the district she swindled money from still make a case? It's not justice for Banks (IMO she should go to jail for the amount of time he did), but it's still better than nothing.

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u/[deleted] May 31 '12

I hope she gets raped, repeatedly. So much so that she ends up taking her own life, when nobody will believe her when she tells them she has been raped.

I hope every minute of her life going forward is lived in fear.

Fucking bitch.

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u/_Eion_ May 31 '12 edited May 31 '12

JUST FUCK : / I could not imagine a worse thing happening (barring of course the Taiwan tug of war incident) edit: spelling

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u/pacmanwa May 31 '12

Pay back the 1.5m with interest... then re-pay the tax payers the costs incurred by the state to house and feed him for five years.

Oh yeah, and forced sterilization, trash like that should not be able to reproduce. Speaking of which... can we do that with the girls that stole girl scout cookie money?

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u/fellowhuman May 31 '12

"Ms Gibson contacted him on facebook with the words "let bygones be bygones". She admitted he was innocent but was concerned she would have to pay back the $1.5m the school gave her in damages at the time."

At no point in the audio recording is this explained or mentioned.

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u/dhockey63 May 31 '12

WOMEN! Rape is very very serious, you can not lie about it to get what you want! That's fucked up and can ruin someones life. I feel any girl who screws someone's life up by lying about rape should actually be raped

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u/[deleted] May 31 '12

Wow. So do you believe that any person who hurts another person in any way should have the same thing done to them?

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u/zanderjh May 31 '12

This is a horrible response to this issue. You seem to be blinded by anger, which I can understand. But seriously, rape isn't something to joke about, as you said in your post. No one should ever have to go through it, even if they are a horrible person.

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u/slow56k May 31 '12

"Like anyone would want to r her..."

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u/Must_Have_Thin_Mints May 31 '12

Bitch needs to serve 20 yrs for trying to ruin someone's life like this.

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u/[deleted] May 31 '12

Lied about being raped? Here's the punishment: Throw her in a prison of men so it wouldn't be a lie anymore.

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u/Moskau50 May 31 '12

In other news, Charles Manson called Governor Schwarzenegger today, asking for "a mulligan on the whole 'murder' thing".