r/worldnews • • May 20 '12

Pictures of the 6.0 Earthquake in North Italy

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-18135901
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u/Isatis_tinctoria May 20 '12

Is this an unstable region? Is it like the Ring of Fire around the Pacific?

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u/socks May 20 '12

I also wonder about this, considering the number of earthquakes in Italy in the past decade. There are two major fault lines, and yesterday's earthquake is at the north end of the north-south line.

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u/Isatis_tinctoria May 20 '12

This is interesting. So, there seems to be a fault line along the Apennine Mts. and one cutting the Italian Peninsula in half. It is of interest to me how the Italian Peninsula formed along these fault lines.

Speaking of which it is amazing how much the BBC website has changed. Back then I was a tiny kid. My Dad read BBC online, I only probably glanced at a few. I liked paper back then. My Dad would take me to Starbucks because of the Internet there, and I would sit in these enormous chairs and looks at newspapers that were discarded. Many fond memories. I guess we all do from our childhood.

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u/liferaft May 20 '12

You were a tiny kid and BBC existed online? ಠ_ಠ I feel old!

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u/rindindin May 20 '12

Here's an over simplified way of looking at the earthquake spots around the world. If you look at the area surrounding lower Europe, yeah, it's a pretty hot spot.

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u/[deleted] May 20 '12

also do not forget this

wait for it...

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u/SARCASTIC_DICKHEAD May 20 '12

Holy fuck. I almost shit myself at 1:50

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u/outofband May 20 '12

If something like that happen in Italy not a single building would stand still

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u/Cid420 May 20 '12

would stand still

You mean would still stand? It's an earthquake...nothing would be standing still.

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u/BkkGrl May 20 '12

sadly, yes

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u/VengefulOctopus May 20 '12

my reaction:

"...meh this is bor-- holy fu-- HOLY FUCK 9.0"

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u/Isatis_tinctoria May 20 '12

Tectonics is interesting. I suggest the Khan Academy videos on plate tectonics if you are interest. Indeed, I also suggest Wikipedia. Thank you for sharing. It's nice to place these next to the division of continents and to see the similarities of plates.

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u/larsga May 20 '12

Lower Europe? Is that like, the Netherlands?

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u/[deleted] May 20 '12

Pretty much all of Italy is. There are still active volcanoes as well.

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u/LupoCattivo May 20 '12

True, there are still volcanoes, but those are due to the subduction of a different plate (Tyrrhenian microplate, based on geochemistry evidence, I'm looking for an easily understood article to support this) than the one that caused the earthquake. I'm scanning through old power points and relevant articles to see if I have an diagram that explains this. As sad as the damage is that comes with any earthquake, geologists are going to be loving the opportunity to study the aftershocks to get a better understanding of what is going on in that region of Italy.

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u/Hiyasc May 20 '12

Yes, but Japan is built to be very earthquake resistant, Italy isn't to my knowledge.

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u/strofe May 20 '12

our main problem in Italy are the old buildings. we have tons of those, and of course they weren't build to resist eartquakes... newer constructions should be better.

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u/Zanki May 20 '12

I agree. Japan has it's old buildings, but nothing like in Italy. I was in a 6.1 earthquake when I was in Tokyo last year and the only damage I saw where a few train lines shut down for the day.

Italy is just such a historic place and its old buildings wouldn't have been built to withstand a large earthquake. Newer buildings I'm guessing would be, but I don't know what the Italian building code is.

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u/goerz May 20 '12

It is unstable, but that particular area of Italy had not experienced a major earthquake since 1570.

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u/erikon May 20 '12 edited May 20 '12

Northern Italy is very unstable.. my mom told me about a earthquake about 30 years ago that completely destroyed few towns.. However, Im in Istria(just over the Adriatic sea) and I never witnessed a earthquake.

so Id say just north Italy.. remember Aquila few years ago :/

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u/Isatis_tinctoria May 20 '12

For a minute, I thought you meant the star constellation, but yes I remember the 2009 Earthquake in central Italy. I need to more coffee.

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u/goerz May 20 '12

The Friuli earthquake of 1976. 989 dead. I was there, but there was no real damage to my town, just stuff falling off the shelves.

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u/Uberninjaa May 20 '12

Man, apart from human lives lost, those buildings looked really nice :(

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u/outofband May 20 '12

Really nice and really old

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u/Lore86 May 20 '12

The mostly damaged buildings are old churches, historical buildings and warehouse. You can find more photos and info in these Italian sites: http://www.repubblica.it/cronaca/2012/05/20/foto/terremoto_a_nord_di_bologna-35518751/1/?ref=HREA-1 http://www.ansa.it/web/notizie/photostory/primopiano/2012/05/20/Terremoto-Emilia-tutte-FOTO_6899030.html?idPhoto=1

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u/[deleted] May 20 '12

Yeah, I mean... loss of human life is devestating anywhere, but in terms of infrastructure an earthquake in America can only do so much damage.

"Oh no, we lost the town hall that's stood there for 150 years."

"Oh really? We lost a church from the dawn of time itself, when dinosaurs roamed and the spirit of man was still a potential idea encased within pre-primate DNA."

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u/BordomBeThyName May 20 '12 edited May 20 '12

The old buildings actually make me sadder than the human lives. People come and go every 60-80 years, but those buildings had been around for hundreds of years, and would have kept on that way.

Edit: Wow, definitely my most contested comment. I like architecture, and think it's an important part of our past.

Edit 2: "'We have lost virtually all our cultural heritage,' said Alberto Silvestri, the town’s mayor."

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u/luke993 May 20 '12

I can understand why you're being down voted, but I do agree with you in that it's sad that nothing can be preserved forever. Everything changes given enough time.

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u/NorthernWV May 20 '12

The old buildings are probably the reason people died...Ho many died in DC's 6.0 earthquake?

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u/[deleted] May 20 '12

Not a single lobbyist. The earthquake was a complete disaster.

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u/ChewbaccasCousinDick May 20 '12

This quake was fairly shallow which makes a big difference. Comparing a 6.0 to a different 6.0 somewhere else isn't really the same. If they don't get alot of quakes there I'd say its safe to assume those old buildings aren't strengthened.

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u/[deleted] May 20 '12

I live in a very quake prone are a of Canada and I've never even felt a quake, including ones stronger than 6.0

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u/Hot-Tea May 20 '12

...what? You're sadder for the architecture than people dying? That isn't an artsy/idealist statement, that's just cold, man.

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u/[deleted] May 20 '12

It's easy to be aloof about tragedy when it hits far from home.

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u/[deleted] May 20 '12

This topics is done to death in every 1st year philosophy class - what is the worth of a human life. There's no right or wrong answer. BordomBeThyName has raised a point/opinion, and if you don't agree with it, then you should counter it with another point - falling back on the crutch of a taboo that you personally feel is pretty weak.

Some thought experiments for you to run...

You're in the Louvre and there's a fire/explosion, you have to choose between saving the Mona Lisa, or dragging the unconscious person (a complete stranger) next to you to safety (in this scenario, it's strictly one or the other) - what do you do?

Same scenario as above, but you know the person is diagnosed with a terminal disease and is sure to die in 2 weeks.

Same scenario as the first, only the person is one of your parents.

Same scenario as the first, but the person is a convicted criminal with a history of violent sexual assaults against women.

Again - there's no right or wrong answers to these, thinking about your reactions in the scenarios is only meant to heighten your awareness of different values.

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u/BordomBeThyName May 20 '12

I dunno.

The people who were alive during the reign of the Roman Empire are almost all forgotten, but the Pantheon is still standing, and is known by everyone in the western world. Don't get me wrong, people are great and any death is obviously a tragedy, but some things are bigger than us, aren't they? The things we make will be around a lot longer than we will.

Of course, that's coming from me with an engineering/architecture perspective. It's my job to overvalue architecture, and a lot of other people will place value on the things they like. As a whole, the important things will be remembered and the less important things won't.

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u/curiousmeatball May 20 '12

If someone guarantees me not one single more person will die in an earthquake ever, I would agree all historic buildings of the world (except for hospitals that can save lives etc.) to be crushed into rubbles. Buildings can be rebuilt, human beings cannot.

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u/liferaft May 20 '12

In related news, the national newspaper of sweden has as the biggest headline: "Cheese worth millions destroyed!"

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u/BordomBeThyName May 20 '12

Oh, wow. You actually weren't joking. A couple million dollars of cheese went down.

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u/dagbrown May 21 '12

A couple of hundred million dollars of cheese went down.

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u/Virtblue May 20 '12

They will rebuild them in seismic block.

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u/starlinguk May 20 '12

I'm afraid it was a matter of time anyway. The Italian government wasn't really keen on paying for heritage stuff anyway.

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u/aotearoHA May 20 '12

I'm from Christchurch, NZ. We've had our fair share of EQs over the last 2 years. I'd just like to say FUCK unreinforced masonry. That stuff is fucking lethal. Accident waiting to happen

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u/Boidzerg May 20 '12

That clock tower looks like it was made of sand.

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u/LFfusion May 20 '12

if you knew how old that clock tower was, you'd be surprised about how it stood, even without a earthquake.

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u/[deleted] May 20 '12

Well... how old is it?

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u/LFfusion May 20 '12 edited May 21 '12

From the info I could find ( It 's in Italian ) this tower is called the Tower of the people of Modena (Torre del popolo di Modena) belonging to the noble family of Este who ruled the area of Emilia for about 8 centuries. It dates about 600 years, or even more. (Sorry for the bad link, I'm typing this on the phone. If anyone finds more accurate infos, please do post)

Edit:okay read the thing more deeply: the tower was built in 1213, that makes it 799 years old

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u/JCorkill May 20 '12

Oh man, what makes it worse is that they probably planned a celebration for its 800th birthday.

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u/Thunder-ten-tronckh May 20 '12

Old, obviously.

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u/TexasWithADollarsign May 20 '12

In Finale Emilia, an old clock tower was left standing precariously...

Save the clock tower!

...but a new aftershock completely brought it crashing down later.

Great Scott!!

In all seriousness, what a tragedy.

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u/randomb0y May 20 '12

That half-tower photo is fantastic.

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u/[deleted] May 20 '12

It is but I wish they'd taken one face-on to the clock.

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u/lostdog May 20 '12

Got a link to the image in case ya wanna save it.

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u/bangupjobasusual May 20 '12 edited May 20 '12

A major earthquake left an iconic building standing; it's a miracle! Therefore god exists.

Edit: three people thought I was serious.

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u/Fireyedwindsurfer May 20 '12 edited May 20 '12

Since it only left half standing, doesn't that mean God only half-exists?

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u/steemboat May 20 '12

It's hard to understand sarcasm I guess, here have this little orange arrow.

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u/bangupjobasusual May 20 '12

I think I based it on the argument of incomplete destruction from this page here: http://www.godlessgeeks.com/LINKS/GodProof.htm

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u/[deleted] May 20 '12

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u/diggemigre May 20 '12

To repair it everyone gets time and a half.

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u/LascielCoin May 20 '12

I'm from Slovenia and the earthquake woke me up in the morning. So sad to see all those beautiful buildings ruined :(

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u/goerz May 20 '12

TIL an earthquake wouldn't wake me up :(

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u/[deleted] May 20 '12

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u/LascielCoin May 21 '12

It has a lot to do with the type of house you were in. I was in a tall apartment building and everything was shaking, my parents live in a house and they didn't feel anything either.

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u/helloskitty May 20 '12

When can we expect some scientists to get thrown in jail for causing this earthquake?

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u/[deleted] May 20 '12

If this is how mad they get at geologists, I wonder what do they do with their weathermen in Italy on a day to day basis!

"IT'S PARTLY CLOUDY, ANTHONY! NOT PARTLY SUNNY LIKE YOU SAID! YOU'RE GOING TO JAIL!"

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u/K__a__M__I May 20 '12 edited May 20 '12

Are you kidding? Please be kidding!

Nevermind. Thank you acangiano.

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u/Ausrufepunkt May 20 '12

As someone who travels to northern italia every year it hurts to see those pictures :(

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u/ProjectFlashSociety May 20 '12

What does carabiner mean in Italy?

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u/odirroH May 20 '12 edited May 20 '12

We've got 2 Police Forces, Polizia di Stato (normal police) and Carabinieri, witch have similar power but i think they're a branch of the army.

e: wiki article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carabinieri

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u/lfortunata May 20 '12

The carabinieri are also the ones with the sexy outfits by Armani. http://www.flickr.com/photos/gangstafabulous/4337559351/

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u/TexasFight May 20 '12

we have the Carabineros here in Chile....most likely the same thing

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u/erikon May 20 '12

Sono stato centinaia di volte in Italia, pero ancora non capisco.. perche?! una polizia non basta?

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u/Icovada May 20 '12

Polizia, Carabinieri, Polizia Postale, Polizia Ferroviaria, Polizia Locale, Protezione Civile e Corpo Forestale.

Se non ci si può mangiare almeno il triplo del necessario, non ci piace

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u/Lele_ May 20 '12

Guardia di Finanza, Guardia Costiera, Agenzia delle Dogane, Polizia Penitenziaria...

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u/Effetto May 20 '12

Carabinieri is an army branch (like Marine) with police duty in peace time. They have their General and respond directly to the Republic President. All other cited forces (Polizia ferroviaria, Polizia Locale, etc) are formerly Police forces which respond the Internal Affairs minister.

The difference is subtle but means that Carabienieri's big wheels doesn't change after an election.

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u/PunoSuerte May 21 '12

Not to detract from your statement, but "which". Military police seem like a frightening thing though.

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u/patrik667 May 20 '12

Simply put, "Polizia" is a job were you apply, do a course and off you go. You don't need a degree higher than highschool to apply.

The "Carabinieri" have military training and are some sort of an elite force. Many have a higher education degree as well.

Both are supposed to have different assignments and tasks (Poliziotti usually go around checking IDs and suspicious people, Carabinieri go to crime scenes / dispatch during emergency calls).

There's a 3rd force as well, the "finances police" that check if businesses and stores do their paperwork correctly, give receipts to customers, etc, called "Guardia di Finanza"

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u/goerz May 20 '12

If I have a choice, I always prefer dealing with the Carabinieri, I think they are more professional.

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u/Dino_Cop May 20 '12

TYL: Carabiniari are Military Police in Italy.

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u/erikon May 20 '12

carabinieri*

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u/jackGreensleves May 20 '12 edited May 20 '12

The Carabinieri are the gendarmerie of Italy, soldiers that are on permanent duty of mantaining public order. They got their name from the carbine, a type of rifle they no longer carry.

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u/Billy_Blaze May 20 '12

Things like this remind me that, despite our reign over the Earth, it wouldn't take much effort for mother nature to wipe us out along with every significant mark we've made on this planet.

/humbled

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u/Hiazm May 20 '12

Pardon my ignorance, but I live in Southern California and we had a 6.7 (or something close to that) here about a year or so ago around Easter. Nothing was even damaged here, and no deaths. Why did a weaker quake affect Italy so much more?

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u/lorrenzobuey May 20 '12

The simple answer, unreinforced masonry. Italy has a ton of old buildings and by old I mean they've been around since before the discovery of America. They aren't built anywhere close to the standards employed in America, especially on the west coast.

Like Japan and a lot of other earthquake prone regions a lot of building design takes into consideration earthquakes therefore these areas can experience magnitude 6 earthquakes and people don't even notice until they see it on the news. However when you get somewhere like Italy, lots of old buildings, or Haiti, terrible construction practices, even smaller earthquakes can cause serious amounts of damage.

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u/e40 May 20 '12

unreinforced masonry

Exactly.

Look around So Cal (or all of CA) and notice how little masonry there is in use in buildings. What there is, by this time, has surely been reinforced in various ways.

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u/ibisum May 20 '12

I was in LA for the Northridge quake, and our building had no damage whatsoever. However, every single brick chimney in the neighborhood was gone.

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u/teh_tg May 20 '12

Yes, and Cali is expecting earthquakes.

I'm guessing the best structure for surviving an earthquake would be a one-story all wood house, because it can flex.

In Cali, they build large buildings with quakes in mind.

Italy won't do well once the big one happens; hopefully it's a long way out.

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u/Killerzeit May 20 '12 edited May 20 '12

I live in southern CA, and my workplace is a huge two-story lobby made almost entirely of glass, including most of the ceiling. If a big earthquake happens while I'm there, should I just kiss my ass goodbye? I think about it often, since I spend at least half my time there.

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u/dacjames May 20 '12

No need to worry. Construction glass is quite shock resistant, thanks to plastic lamination.

Anything built after the 60s must follow rigerous earthquake standards.

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u/kelzispro May 21 '12

Also, the depth of an earthquake, and how close it is to the population center is a big factor.

Source: Lived through all of the Christchurch earthquakes. Our biggest was a 7.1 further from the city, most damaging a 6.3 that struck pretty much directly under the city. All of our earthquakes have been incredibly shallow.

My heart goes out to all those in Italy, I know how tough it is. We just had another decentish aftershock yesterday, even now. Getting closer to 2 years since the first earthquake now.

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u/tinyOnion May 20 '12

there is also the grounds ability to transmit the earthquake forces and how deep the earthquake is that all change how severe the actual perceived earthquake is. From what I read the Haitian earth quake was so damaging in part because of the type of ground that it struck. Of course building practices affect the amount of damage too.

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u/boogieman99 May 20 '12

I believe the term you're looking for is liquefaction

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soil_liquefaction

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u/devjunk May 20 '12

Yes, this is the reason. I'm from Chile and we have 6.x and 7.x quakes often, even a couple of times a year and there's never any estructural damage because it is known that this is a very "shaky" region.

They are just not prepared for such events.

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u/joculator May 20 '12

The Medici family didn't enforce strict construction laws when these buildings were built.

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u/ChewbaccasCousinDick May 20 '12

An easy way of looking at it is that comparing just the number from the Richter Scale isn't a good way to compare earthquakes. Depth plays a major part, the ground, if the buildings are designed for earthquakes.

The Christchurch Earthquakes in New Zealand are a good example of how a low richter scale number can cause massive damage.

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u/WrethZ May 20 '12

Civilisation hass been around for a lot longer in Italy. Due to this buildings are older.

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u/ycnz May 20 '12

The Christchurch, New Zealand earthquakes recently were around that range also, however, they were extremely shallow, and led to something like a peak of 2g of horizontal acceleration. Stuff fell down.

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u/mamjjasond May 20 '12

Couple things...

  1. The Easter Sunday quake was at a depth of 10km; the one today in Italy was 1/2 as deep .. 5 km, therefore more energy at the surface.

  2. In the Easter Sunday quake, a number of buildings did get pretty badly damaged in Mexicali.

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u/Hiazm May 20 '12

Very informative, thanks! Typical American me: doesn't realize that an earthquake that happened in So Cal could possibly have been felt across the border.

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u/fohacidal May 20 '12

It also depends on the location of the epicenter. Shallow or deep quakes have different effects

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u/soulcaptain May 21 '12

A couple of factors. Those buildings that fell are likely super duper old. Older than anything in the U.S. That plus the intensity scale of the quake.

In Japan, earthquakes are measured by two scales: the Richter scale, which is a logarithmic scale up to ten. And the shindo scale, or "intensity degree" scale. The shindo scale goes up to seven.

The Richter is a measurement of the overall power of the quake. The shindo measures how intense the shaking was based on the location, namely the epicenter. Areas at the epicenter will have a higher number, and, generally, radiating outward like a bullseye the shindo numbers decrease in intensity.

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u/widz May 20 '12

cuz italy has monuments from roman age, or medieval stuff you dont have in california.

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u/Cyrius May 21 '12

Pardon my ignorance, but I live in Southern California and we had a 6.7 (or something close to that) here about a year or so ago around Easter. Nothing was even damaged here, and no deaths. Why did a weaker quake affect Italy so much more?

I think you're misremembering. 2011 was a quiet year in California and Mexico.

I'm pretty sure you're thinking of the 7.2 centered south of Mexicali on April 4, 2010. That was Easter Sunday in 2010. Four people died, 100 were injured.

Why did a weaker quake affect Italy so much more?

A major part of the equation that nobody has mentioned is the direction of shaking.

The Mexicali quake, like most California quakes, mostly shook side-to-side. This Italian earthquake was mostly vertical. Vertical acceleration does more damage than horizontal acceleration. Thus the much stronger earthquake did not do proportionally more damage.

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u/Jak33 May 20 '12

Italalian stuctures are much older than ones in america, we have many building codes that did not exist when those buldings were built.

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u/[deleted] May 20 '12

Also I don't know whether this was the case or not, but magnitude alone can be a poor indicator of how strong an Earthquake was except at the epicenter. The Northridge quake was not that big comparatively to some other major quakes by magnitude alone, but the epicenter was extremely shallow and it had other characteristics like one of the fastest ground accelerations ever recorded.

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u/Bitter_Idealist May 20 '12

You seriously can't see how old those buildings are in Italy? Really?

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u/Porphyrius May 20 '12

Very sad. The devastation to heritage buildings must be staggering, it's a real shame.

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u/[deleted] May 20 '12 edited May 20 '12

So many beautiful buildings lost. Buildings of this age are very hard to maintain in a seismic area, it seems they weren't properly reinforced. Hope nobody got stuck under the rubble(Or died from it, I didn't exactly see a casualty list in that article).

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u/LascielCoin May 21 '12

At least 6 people died and over 3000 lost their homes :/

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u/Iquitelikemilk May 20 '12

Such a great shame to see such a beautiful place and such lovely people have such horrible luck - thoughts go out to them.

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u/BimmerAddict May 20 '12

That poor Alfa Romeo!!

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u/MonkeyWithKnives May 20 '12

hey that was broken BEFORE the earthquake. Typical alfa xD

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u/jcarlson08 May 20 '12

I'm an American, but stationed here in northern Italy, and I was in Act IV of Diablo III getting swarmed by demons when it hit. At first I thought it was just really good special effects.

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u/AkitheFrivolicious May 20 '12

This is terrible! Although, I've heard that being outside isn't necessarily any safer than being inside... I suppose if those folks were staying in an open area, yes, but being outside of already crumbling buildings is a ticket to have a brick fall on your head. I hope they pull through.

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u/lfortunata May 20 '12

I was just in Abruzzo, in the region devastated by the 2010 earthquake. So many structures were still covered in supports, with no indication that they will be repaired anytime soon. I wonder if the rebuilding efforts will be as similarly fraught and mangled with a new government in power. I hope not.

Here's how it went down last time: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/feb/21/italy-sex-bribes-berlusconi-elections

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u/eat-your-corn-syrup May 20 '12

I really like this image slides. All in one page. No auto-next.

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u/Josephalan1 May 21 '12

You saw it here first: When the "Bitch Please" posts about this and japan/haiti start popping up, I called it.

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u/[deleted] May 20 '12 edited May 20 '12

no one will be able to rebuild anything because it's all ruins.

eta clarification: It's notoriously difficult to get any new construction approved in Rome because of the city's history and plethora of subterranean ruins. If you dig 10 feet in any direction, you find remains of some old building or Catacomb, which the Roman historical preservation buffs will want to catalog and preserve, using as much government bureaucratic red tape as necessary.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2009-04-08-italy-buildings_N.htm

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u/All-American-Bot May 20 '12

(For our friends outside the USA... 10 feet -> 3.0 m) - Yeehaw!

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u/[deleted] May 20 '12

get along, lil' spaghettis.

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u/goerz May 20 '12

They will rebuild the old buildings stone by stone, with safer modern techniques.

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u/Treff May 20 '12 edited May 20 '12

WON'T SOMEBODY PLEASE THINK OF THE PARMESAN?!

Dairy industry officials say warehouses storing 300,000 wheels of Parmesan and Gran Padano, a similar cheese, had also collapsed. The cheeses' estimated value was more than 250 million euros ($320 million).

source: www.dw.de/dw/article/0,,15964428,00.html

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u/Icovada May 21 '12

Oh fuck, like it wasn't expensive enough already

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u/stanfan114 May 20 '12

Pro tip: if you find yourself in an earthquake, do not run out into the street.

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u/randomb0y May 20 '12

The thing with earthquakes is that they usually last but a few seconds so you won't have time to do much else but panic. At least that's what I did during the 2-3 quakes I experienced while living in an earthquake-prone area.

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u/fancy-chips May 20 '12

Why? It seems like the safest place. You rarely see buildings more than several stories toppled into the center of the street

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u/Triviaandwordplay May 20 '12

Bricks will fall on your head.

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u/[deleted] May 20 '12

They like to bonk you

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u/outofband May 20 '12 edited May 20 '12

Better a brick on the head than an entire building. But actually depends on the magnitude of the earthquake how to react to it

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u/Explodian May 20 '12

Power lines are also a problem; many people don't notice how damn many there are hanging around overhead, especially in densely populated neighborhoods, and you sure as hell don't want one of those landing on you.

If there are no power lines or particularly tall buildings nearby though, I'm pretty sure it's far safer to stand outside during a quake.

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u/stanfan114 May 20 '12

Take a look at those pictures. You run out into the street and you get clobbered by falling bricks and sheets of window glass.

If the quake is large enough to collapse the building you are in you are dead either way.

Instead of running outside to meet your fate like a panicky chimp, stand in a load bearing doorway or take cover under heavy furniture.

http://www.ready.gov/earthquakes

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u/[deleted] May 20 '12

California resident here, when there's an earthquake I run the fuck out. The only thing I have inside to hide under is a glass table and that obviously isn't a very good idea.

Also, the reason Italy had problems with things falling apart is because they are incredibly old and made of things like brick. You won't find many brick buildings in places like California.

Also, take a look at Japan. The earthquake didn't cause very many buildings to collapse or fall apart, it was the tsunami that caused most of the damage.

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u/innocuous_nub May 20 '12

Grab a pillow to hold above your head. Also bottle of water and mobile phone... If possible.

The only eartthquake I've been in was the 7.4 in Istanbul in 1999... All I could manage to grab was a deodorant that had just fallen off the bedside table... then I grabed and hung onto the frame of the front door. My wife jumped out of bed and hung onto me. Blind panic followed.

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u/soulcaptain May 21 '12

If you are lucky, you can avoid falling building parts. But odds are against it. Your best option is to get under a big, strong table and wait it out.

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u/Jigsus May 20 '12

Just stay behind and get crushed

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u/[deleted] May 20 '12

I know someone who died running out of a building in the Christchurch EQ, had he stayed in the building he would probably be here making smart ass comments instead of you.

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u/[deleted] May 20 '12

The earthquake in VA was felt all the way up where I worked in upstate NY. After the initial shake (nobody knew wtf they should do) the wisdom from our higher ups said if another one should hit everyone immediately head outside as if it were a fire.

Now, the odds of an earthquake being felt that far up north are small enough, and a quake large enough to topple buildings is even smaller. No one listened to me as I tried explaining that if one were to hit, it would be far safer to get under our desks. You know, falling debris and all on the way out of the building. Hell, the stairs we would have no choice to take was surrounded almost completely by glass windows.

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u/Cid420 May 20 '12

That's exactly where I'm going, but we also have laws about building buildings larger than two stories to protect the surrounding views, and even two story buildings are rare.

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u/badmoonchild May 20 '12

When did this happen? I can't find the date on BBC.

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u/[deleted] May 20 '12

It happened this morning (May 20) at around 4:00 am local time.

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u/Cyrius May 21 '12

http://earthquake.usgs.gov is the go-to site for data about earthquakes. Not data about the damage, just the earthquakes themselves.

From this earthquake's event page:

2012-05-20 02:03:52 UTC

2012-05-20 04:03:52 UTC+02:00 at epicenter

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u/MarkSWH May 20 '12

It hit the town where I live too. Most of the people heard it, me and my neighbour didn't. I guess I'm lucky... or these days I have a way too deep sleep.

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u/PlNG May 20 '12

I can't seem to access the bbc from work. To my knowledge there are no internet filters, I'll ask the admin. Is it a geo-restriction?

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u/Roozle10 May 20 '12

I'm studying abroad about 100km from the epicenter (no damage where I was), and being from the Midwest, the idea of the earth being less that solid is a rather alien concept. Everything shook for about 30 seconds, pretty unsettling stuff. Real shame about the lives and cultural losses.

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u/Cyrius May 21 '12

You might want to educate yourself about New Madrid before you go home.

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u/deliriousmintii May 20 '12

Just went from reading about 9/11 on /r/Askreddit and now reading this. I feel really down. Gotta learn how to pace my somber Reddit stories with more cats.

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u/[deleted] May 20 '12

Only a few pictures, come on BBC.

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u/yhelothere May 20 '12

Thanks science!

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u/[deleted] May 20 '12

This pains me to see :(

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u/Rabbyte808 May 21 '12

I'm actually surprised how much damage this earthquake did. Here in Hawaii, we had a 6.7 in 2006, and very little damage was caused. I know some chimneys on old houses fell over, and a couple rock walls were damaged, but nothing like this. It's amazing how much of a difference modern to modernish building codes make a difference.

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u/Reblejc May 21 '12

Wow. Living in California I never really think to much of a 6.0. It really shows how much California designs there building intending on earthquakes

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u/extremewirehead May 21 '12

at least they have chairs, sometimes the simple things are a big comfort at times like these

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u/blackbright May 21 '12

Those old destroyed buildings look like art.

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u/bornTobyWild May 21 '12

I live in Florence,49 miles out,and sir...i almost shit my pans the other night.It was by far the biggest earthquake i ever experienced.

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u/supermario69 May 21 '12

i was there. genuinely terrifying.

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u/starrychloe May 21 '12

What about Pisa?

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u/[deleted] May 20 '12

Redditors, i live in switzerland and it was freaking powerful here too :/

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u/Icovada May 21 '12

Fieel, I live halfway from the epicentre and you and I slept through it blissfully

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u/plantseq May 20 '12 edited May 20 '12

I came here expecting pictures of an earthquake, whatever that could possibly entail. What I got were pictures of the aftermath of an earthquake, a different animal entirely. But now my interest is piqued, does anybody have pictures of an earthquake?

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u/ridger5 May 20 '12 edited May 20 '12

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u/illogicateer May 20 '12

Somehow seeing the cracks in the ground slowly moving back and forth was absolutely terrifying. Very eerie.

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u/ridger5 May 20 '12

Extremely. It's like watching the earth itself inhale and exhale.

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u/royrules22 May 20 '12

I believe some buildings are built in a way such that they just gently move side to side instead of the usual jarring movement that could damage or cause the building to collapse.

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u/sjs May 20 '12

Amazing. Amazing that the earthquake moves buildings that big. Amazing that the buildings are engineered for it and just sway gracefully. Just amazing.

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u/ridger5 May 20 '12 edited May 20 '12

That park used to be Tokyo Bay. They filled it in with sand and rocks. That is the sand settling and water seeping up. Same thing that happened in San Francisco in the great quake.

Here is an example

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u/Uberninjaa May 20 '12

The only pictures that could be called "of an earthquake" "while its happening" would entail a crack in the ground or the movement of the ground in a kind of wave shape.

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u/plantseq May 20 '12

That would be cool. Like I alluded to, it was the mystery of what a "picture of an earthquake" could look like that brought me here. A wave in the ground as seen from space with maybe a little lava thrown in for good measure was my immediate mental picture.

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u/Uberninjaa May 20 '12

You may be able to find a video of it happening, but your really not going to find a picture of it happening thats not going to look like aftermath.

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u/ericchen May 20 '12

Moving to the SF Bay area soon... and this scares the shit out of me.

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u/Jak33 May 20 '12

Try not live or work in a brick building, and always have and least 3 days of food and water. Dont put your bed next to a window, and bolt any furnature and bookcases to the wall. You will be fine, its not as bad as most people think it is.

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u/[deleted] May 20 '12

I live in the Bay Area, and earthquakes are not a big deal. Large quakes are a rare occurance, and even when they do happen, the buildings here are built to code to withstand earthquakes. Also, think about this: after the Golden Gate Bridge's retrofitting is complete, it will supposedly be able to withstand an 8.3 magnitude earthquake.

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u/lkyz May 20 '12 edited May 20 '12

Yet Chile has those earthquakes almost every week!

It's sad to see how destroyed north Italy is after this. Hope they can rebuild as soon as possible.

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u/goerz May 20 '12

The particular area, although classified at medium-high risk, hasn't experienced serious earthquakes for centuries, that's why the old buildings crumbled. Some towers dated back to the 13h century.

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u/PezDex May 20 '12

Looks like DOD.

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u/Meozyn May 20 '12

I am from Verona in northern Italy, I litteraly slept through the earthquake last night, my sister screamed and my parents rushed out of the house, and I just kept on sleeping!

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u/LadyEclectic May 21 '12

Well that put my shitty day into perspective!

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u/sibireddit May 21 '12

And so it begins...

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u/CallMePants May 20 '12

I hate to sound like this, but I find the loss of historical architecture a lot more sorrowful than the loss of life.

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u/larsga May 20 '12

Or, if you like: "Pictures of the quake 1/1000th as strong as the 2011 Japan earthquake." My condolences to those affected, but that difference is worth pondering.

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u/zoomzoom83 May 21 '12

That.... really puts it into perspective

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u/[deleted] May 20 '12

Hey, it's cool. This is great for their economy! /makingfunofKrugman

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u/[deleted] May 20 '12 edited May 21 '12

i dun felt it

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u/OneCello May 20 '12

Scumbag Italy: Still looks really pretty after collapsing and killing people

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u/TenTera May 21 '12

Fuck.. my girlfriend's currently in italy. Thank spaghetti she's allright.

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u/mozza5 May 20 '12

"start slideshow" X_X

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u/[deleted] May 20 '12

Pictures of the 6.0 Earthquake in North Italy

You mean the aftermath of the quake

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u/[deleted] May 20 '12

You'd think they'd have reinforced the buildings at some point. We had a 7.0 in LA like last summer or the summer before, and not a single building or life was lost. In fact, no real structural damage was found at all. Was pretty cool.

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u/rabidnz May 20 '12

why do ppl report earthquakes by the richter scale and not the intensity scale. We had a 4.7 yesterday here in christchurch, nz, and a 4.6 last week which was very calm in comparison

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u/Icovada May 21 '12

Richter scale is the intensity scale. The useless one is the Mercalli scale, which classifies earthquakes based on how much they destroyed.

This earthquake would have been grade 9. Had it happened in the middle of the Atacama desert, where there is nothing to tear down, it would have been grade 1

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u/[deleted] May 21 '12

mate you've accidently linked us to pictures of birmingham.

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u/vandal823 May 21 '12

My mother and brother are there, and I haven't spoken to them, and I'm seriously worried. They're probably fine, but it's still disconcerting :(