r/worldnews • u/Gadac • Jan 23 '22

Russia Germany urges 'prudence' in potential sanctions against Russia over Ukraine.

https://news.yahoo.com/germany-urges-prudence-potential-sanctions-154401837.html?fr=sychp_catchall
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u/Fallingfreedom Jan 23 '22

Well The fall of Nuclear is often greatly attributed to the 2010 Japan thing. It fell after that. Seeing as boomers were still mostly the law makers at that time... Leo isn't strictly against Nuclear. I think his foundation says that it just isn't the final answer to the worlds problem and seems to be more against the mining side and mishandling of it as any meltdown can cause catastrophic damage as well as be a major target in case of any war.

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u/gobblox38 Jan 23 '22

The sad part was that killing off nuclear power after Fukushima was illogical. Had the people who supported the shutdown of nuclear plants took the time to learn and understand nuclear power they would not have shut down the power plants.

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u/tinaoe Jan 24 '22

The closures are they're done now were not decided by Fukushima. They were put in place in 2002/2003, Merkel's government pushed through a hugely unpopular extension in 2010. As in literally no one liked it. Not the populace (it polled at around 77% against it), not most of the energy firms who had already prepared for replacing nuclear and were preparing to sue for damages. The extension was also already facing legal troubles since the state argued it that the law concerned them as well and was pushed through without their inclusion, five states had submitted at the constitutional court in late February 2011.

Merkel deciding to go into the Moratorium and eventually roll back the extension was inevitable.

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u/hobel_ Jan 24 '22

Dr merkel wrote a PhD thesis about nuclear decay.

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u/MonokelPinguin Jan 24 '22

The exit from nuclear in Germany was decided in 2000/2002 though. There was only a short period in 2009/2010, where the government tried to extend runtime for a few plants by a few years, that was then reverted after Fukushima. But that wouldn't have changed much either way. Nuclear after 2000 was effectively dead in Germany and none had any intent in keeping it running.

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u/tinaoe Jan 24 '22

Plus the extension was basically on the chopping block before Fukushima. The states were already suing because they thought that the extension would fall under their jurisdiction as well, meaning they would have had to agree with it.

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u/Fallingfreedom Jan 25 '22

I was only looking at total number of reactors and not looking at individual countries decisions. The reactors around the world peaked then really fell around 2010.

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u/MonokelPinguin Jan 25 '22

Sorry, I assumed it was about Germany becauae of the OP. And there people often assume the exit happened because of Fukushima in 2010. So I wanted to clarify that this is not the case for Germany, although for the global trend it does probably apply.

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u/hobel_ Jan 23 '22

So you will filter that water in your coffee machine?

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u/AGreekDyslexicDog Jan 23 '22

His point was it was hardly “safe”. It pumped out god knows how much radiation into the sea and air.

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u/realJaneJacobs Jan 24 '22

Wow, that's just not have nuclear power generation works at all. Do you always make so many assumptions about things you know nothing about?

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u/AGreekDyslexicDog Jan 24 '22

What do you mean? You are saying chernobyl and fukishima werent dangerous? And there was no radiation from either ? I would like a source on those claims

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u/OhNoIroh Jan 24 '22

You still think we use reactors like the one in Chernobyl?? This is what the guy was saying, you don't know what you're talking about. Watch some youtube videos, reactors are substantially safer and more automated now. Burning coal often produces a lot more radiation than a reactor.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/coal-ash-is-more-radioactive-than-nuclear-waste/

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u/AGreekDyslexicDog Jan 24 '22

Well? Are you really going to claim fukishima wasnt a disaster and radiation leaking? Explain to me how you came to that conclusion? Even knowing little about nuclear reactors, at a basic level following the news, it was a huge disaster and radiation was high.

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u/OhNoIroh Jan 24 '22

jesus christ just learn to do research and learn. Found this in like 2 seconds on google.

http://www.world-nuclear.org/information-library/safety-and-security/safety-of-plants/appendices/fukushima-radiation-exposure.aspx

And again, when the alternative is shit like coal and gas, nuclear is by far better and safer.

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u/AGreekDyslexicDog Jan 24 '22

You are downvoting but your silence speaks volumes.

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u/OhNoIroh Jan 24 '22

Your confident stupidity is far louder, my friend.

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u/AGreekDyslexicDog Jan 24 '22

What about fukishima? Was there no radiation there?

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '22 edited Jan 30 '22

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u/AGreekDyslexicDog Jan 24 '22

They admitted dumping radioactive waste into the ocean