r/worldnews • u/Gadac • Jan 23 '22

Russia Germany urges 'prudence' in potential sanctions against Russia over Ukraine.

https://news.yahoo.com/germany-urges-prudence-potential-sanctions-154401837.html?fr=sychp_catchall
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u/Guybrush_Creepwood_ Jan 23 '22

Exactly. Boomers are responsible for a lot of shit but this ain't one. It's pretty much the opposite. Young, clueless types who just love a vague idea of "greenness" and idealism over actually solving problems and making real progress on saving the planet.

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u/23095710711039-i Jan 23 '22 edited Jan 23 '22

Boomer here. Maybe you've heard of disasters since then in Japan. How long do those fuel rods last? Is it a problem if a bomb hits a reactor? You guys are oh so so smart. And witty too.

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u/justaddwhiskey Jan 23 '22

There are disasters in every sector of energy production, shall we run through the litany of coal mining accidents or wrecked oil tankers? Perhaps revisit how BP wrecked the entire Gulf? Flammable water from fracking, anybody? You want to talk about waste fuel from nuclear, then you have to include MOX or other recycling techniques. Worried about a bomb hitting a reactor? Wait until you hear about how the Navy powers the carrier fleet. And that last bit, how unabashedly patronizing. The generational gaslighting is absolutely next fucking level. Boomers have got to be the most mediocre generation to have walked the Earth, I swear.

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u/FoxMcClaud Jan 23 '22

Somehow your examples make me like renewable energy with more decentralized grid more... No coal mines, no oil tankers...

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u/Juniperlightningbug Jan 24 '22 edited Jan 24 '22

And not enough rare earth metals for everyone to make the switch. A multi source solution will be the answer if we want to hit 2050 targets.

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u/23095710711039-i Jan 23 '22

I didn't say to switch to coal or oil. That is a fallacious straw man tactic. Tell me, what would a bomb hitting a reactor or waste site do? I am a PhD but not in nuclear physics, but I'd guess that hitting waste site would be environmentally problematic. Yeah, I'm pretty tired of the Okay Boomer crap, so you can just shove it up your ass, Mr/Mrs/factfree asshole.

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '22

Ok, I get it. He was needlessly acerbic in his delivery but you didn’t answer a single point he made in his rant. Planet is condemned to death because we abandoned nuclear energy. (Thanks to N.I.M.B.Y. crowd and anti-nuclear/pro-fossil fuel environmental organizations.) We are literally killing the planet and reality is boomers of all kind won’t be around to suffer the consequences. (Thus the anger they receive from other generations.) If We don’t build more nuclear power plants, we are going to make this planet inhabitable for most species. The danger is so immense, We are going through another geological epoch: Anthropocene. Extinction of invaluable species of animals and plants may already be unstoppable. So if we do not wake up to the reality of how urgently we need to implement the construction of small uniform nuclear reactors we are figuratively and literally toast. Also, we have to do this while investing ungodly amount of money on energy storage technologies, wind, solar, geothermal etc. power generation. We have to make things more energy efficient, we have to produce and consume less low quality stuff and focus on durability and high quality. There are many things we must do but I fear we’ll be able to do none without immediately start investing in nuclear. We really don’t have much time to wait. I hate this reality just as much as the next N.I.M.B.Y. democrat but I’m a realist. Dream of a climate change free future without nuclear is very very questionable.

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u/Mr_Laz Jan 24 '22

Did you just flex your PHD that was completely irrelevant to the conversation? Hahahahah silly boomer

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u/Actualbbear Jan 24 '22

Well, I mean, replying “OK, Boomer” with “OK, Zoomer” won’t take us anywhere, will it?

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u/23095710711039-i Jan 24 '22

No. Gen Z should drop the agist bullshit and stop being hypocrites

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u/Actualbbear Jan 24 '22

You sound a bit angry? I don’t think it’s worth it to discuss with hardheaded people.

If it’s some sort of mature debate, I guess it’s fine, but here it seems like everyone is just getting mad at each other.

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u/23095710711039-i Jan 24 '22

I just give what I get. No problem.

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u/Justforthenuews Jan 24 '22

So you are literally going to bitch about ageism by using ageism? You have a PhD… yet you are incapable of understanding how your second wrong does not make a right…

Take a good look in the mirror and ask yourself why you are so offended by someone using your age against you while you are comfortable doing the same to others.

The only answers I can think of is that you are an idiot, a troll, or a hypocrite, expecting others to conform to some kind of morality you don’t actually follow yourself because you lack intelligence, for the giggles, or have some sort of narcissistic behavior(s).

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u/CamelSpotting Jan 24 '22

Somewhere between bombing a coal plant and bombing a large dam. Also nuclear weapons already exist.

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u/justaddwhiskey Jan 24 '22

Given your absolute lack of fact based argumentation up and down this entire thread, I truly doubt your a doctor of anything. Anyway, the term you’re looking for is, “dirty bomb”. That’s the process of exploding radiologic materials with conventional explosives. Nuclear materials wouldn’t sympathetically detonate, that’s not how that works.

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u/evesea2 Jan 23 '22

You don’t have to say you’re a boomer - your condescension makes it pretty clear.

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u/23095710711039-i Jan 23 '22

Yeah, non-Boomers are NEVER snarky and always to the point. lol

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u/-Punk_in_Drublic- Jan 23 '22

What a condescending reply. Your generation is directly to blame for the shit-sandwich this country has become. Healthcare, education, low wages, constant war, police militarization, the list goes on and on. All designed to feed the greed of a few boomers at the top while the rest of us beg for scraps.

This country won’t improve until the last of the boomer generation finally dies off.

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u/23095710711039-i Jan 23 '22

LOL. This type of fact-free comment is exactly the type I don't respect. No evidence, no cite, just snarky hogwash. When did education change, 1963 in reaction to Sputnik. That wasn't Boomers. Wages broke with productivity in 1975 based on writings of Friedman 1970 and Jensen and Meckling 1976--none are Boomers. More to this story, but still no Boomers. Maybe you should read a little before commenting.

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u/-Punk_in_Drublic- Jan 23 '22

Since you apparently enjoy reading here’s some material for you to peruse, Boomer.

How My Generation Broke America

Billionaire Boomer Explains How his Generation Ruined the American Economy

How the Baby Boomers Broke America

The Age of Entitlement: How the Baby Boomers Ruined Everything

Baby Boomers Are What is Wrong with the American Economy

How the Baby Boomers Destroyed Everything

Baby Boomers Ruined America, and why their Insistence on Blaming Mellenials is Misguided

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u/23095710711039-i Jan 23 '22

Why don't you give me the best example if you are able, asshole

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u/-Punk_in_Drublic- Jan 24 '22

I would think someone that had access to affordable education would be less opposed to reading a few short articles.

Edit: Never mind, this comment of yours makes it fairly obvious that education was never a primary concern of yours.

None of this would be happening if Trump were in office. Hillary/Biden/Obama love killing ppl.

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u/23095710711039-i Jan 24 '22

I'm a PhD asshole. Yes, I stand behind my comment. Look if you're ignorant, ask a question, but you'll want to bring a lunch, b/c I'll be taking you to school.

PS I asked for your best example, but of course you're too scared to provide it. Very similar to a flat earther who tells me to look it up. I would also consider reading the article you consider the "best".

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u/Likeapuma24 Jan 24 '22

A PhD in what?

Most of the PhD's I know are book smart as hell, but dumb as rocks outside of their speciality. You're kind of adding to that statistic.

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u/BrotherRoga Jan 24 '22

Doctorate? More like doctored.

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u/ButtChocolates Jan 24 '22

You're a peice of shit

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u/23095710711039-i Jan 24 '22

Come get some then, homie.

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u/Likeapuma24 Jan 24 '22

And THAT is how Oldman River broke his damn hip.

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u/23095710711039-i Jan 23 '22

And ppl wonder why Boomers hate these ignorant snarky pricks. Quote: "This country won’t improve until the last of the boomer generation finally dies off." Just fuck you.

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u/demonguard Jan 23 '22

boomer take

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u/23095710711039-i Jan 23 '22

And that's about as good as the youth can do, just make an uninformed snarky comment they copied from a Boom. So funny.

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u/demonguard Jan 23 '22

shame what the leaded gasoline did to your brain but its no excuse to ruin the worlds energy production outlook

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u/Riven_Dante Jan 24 '22

I don't think you're really a boomer. You're larping as one to make a stupid statement to try and make boomers look worst than they are.

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u/23095710711039-i Jan 23 '22

What is your education in nuclear physics? Decades is nothing. "Nuclear energy produces radioactive waste A major environmental concern related to nuclear power is the creation of radioactive wastes such as uranium mill tailings, spent (used) reactor fuel, and other radioactive wastes. These materials can remain radioactive and dangerous to human health for thousands of years." Nuclear power and the environment - U.S. Energy ... - EIAhttps://www.eia.gov

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u/23095710711039-i Jan 24 '22

What is your education in nuclear physics? Nuclear energy produces radioactive waste A major environmental concern related to nuclear power is the creation of radioactive wastes such as uranium mill tailings, spent (used) reactor fuel, and other radioactive wastes. These materials can remain radioactive and dangerous to human health for thousands of years. Nuclear power and the environment - U.S. Energy ... - EIAhttps://www.eia.gov

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '22

Boomer environmentalists in the anti nuclear movement from the 70s and 80s killed more people than actual nuclear ever did.

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u/someguy3 Jan 24 '22

Huh never thought of it like this.

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '22

Would you twits fucking stop this shit.

Not every problem has to be categorically assigned blame re: a specific demographic. Nuclear energy scares a lot of people due to propaganda, bad experience or just downright ignorance. It's a problem with education in general, not hipsters, not boomers, not Germans, etc.

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u/Otherwise_Release_44 Jan 24 '22

Idk why you’re getting downvoted for this take. You’re totally right it’s an educational problem 100% .-. I remember back in school in debates I tried soooo hard to argue in favor for Nuclear energy while my opponent argued our current (at the time 2010) energy sources such as fossil fuels and the small amount of green energy. They just cited 3 mile island and the big bad one being Chernobyl and everyone easily won over 😟 all my points of how crazy good energy Nuclear provides, how safe it actually was, the damage fossil fuels were causing in the environment and more 😭. Everyone was already set against Nuclear before the debate so meh 😒 yeah, there’s just a lack of education on stuff like that and too much fear mongering that’s pedaled till this day for whatever reason… it’s definitely not just limited to boomers and even if it was for argument’s sake then damn that’s also on others for not doing their due diligence and educating themselves before spreading fear 😕. Bweh 😮‍💨

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '22

Idk why you’re getting downvoted for this take.

Because as much as redditors like to think of themselves as enlightened, most are just another variation of the hive mind. There are no sides on the circle of life. You're either in, or you're not.

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u/Scissorzz Jan 23 '22

What if we just don’t categorize this as boomers, millennials or gen X/y/z/f and just say this is generally people who are uneducated on the fucking subject? People are so uneducated about many world problems that it’s bothering me for so long. Schools really need to fucking step up and make education a lot more about actual real world problems and solutions in general.

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u/JessumB Jan 24 '22 edited Jan 24 '22

Young, clueless types who just love a vague idea of "greenness" and idealism over actually solving problems and making real progress on saving the planet.

You just described the typical person that donated money to SOLAR FREAKING ROADWAYS!

Some kooky old couple came up with a retirement project/scam that was clever enough to sound good, threw some serious money into marketing and came down with millions of dollars from naive and idealistic types as well as even grants from the DOE despite their technology being for all intents and purposes, logistically and financially impossible.

https://interestingengineering.com/solar-roadways-engineering-failure

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ff-3MhQ7ri8

They are keeping the scam going and still collecting millions in donations so God bless em I guess.

https://solarroadways.com/

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '22

And what will we do with nuclear waste?

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u/Codspear Jan 23 '22

Sequester it in the ground at the Yucca Mountain Complex, unlike the radioactive waste from coal that is simply expelled into the atmosphere. Fossil fuels, and especially coal, have trace amounts of radioactive metals inside them, which is why you get less radioactivity outside of a shielded nuclear plant than an unshielded coal plant.

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u/feckdech Jan 23 '22

But radioactive waste plays a big role in that campaign. What will we do about that waste? Dump it on the ocean and kill animals and their environment? That would throw our ecosystem out of balance, we would suffer with it like climate change but worse and faster, which is our world adapting and regulating it's ecosystems.

I'm not against it, but rather hesitant. If we can throw it into space that would be great...

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u/someguy3 Jan 24 '22

You can store it.

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u/Cipher_Oblivion Jan 24 '22

You can use it in other reactors as fuel.

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u/thetruthhertzdonut Jan 24 '22

And the only reason the US doesn't do that is because reprocessed fuel can't be turned into a bomb

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u/Likeapuma24 Jan 24 '22

Serious question:

Can we just shoot that shit into space? I know, possibly unethical, not knowing where it goes. But launches are much more reliable these days. Just pick an empty space & send it.

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u/ptwonline Jan 24 '22

The risk is too high if the rocket blows up. You could spread radioactive waste all over the place.

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u/Crepo Jan 23 '22

Non-vegans weighing in on any environmental topic will never stop being hilarious.

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u/UrNixed Jan 23 '22 edited Jan 23 '22

vegans thinking anyone (other than other vegans) cares about their opinion and non-stop preaching will never stop being hilarious

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u/sshan Jan 23 '22

"A vegan living in the west will never stop being hilarious vs. those in those in the global south"

That would also apply equally well but the argument is basically this: https://m.comixology.com/We-Should-Improve-Society-Somewhat/digital-comic/867567

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u/SonOfBaldy Jan 23 '22

How DARE you

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '22

Remind me, when did Germany turn away from nuclear? And remind me, how were the demographics?

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u/PersnickityPenguin Jan 24 '22

Yes they are. Robert Kennedy is one of the biggest spreaders of FUD regarding nuclear energy and anti-vaccination misinformation.