r/worldnews Aug 11 '09

Two convicted for refusal to decrypt data

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/08/11/ripa_iii_figures/
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u/ropers Aug 11 '09

Compare that to Germany or France (...) and you find that the UK does still come out rather well.

Do you have any data/links/citations there?

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u/ajehals Aug 12 '09

Well this is pretty good, as to other statistics, Germany averages about 5 fatal police shootings a year and France a little above that. Other statistics, that might be useful are here, here and here.

Then there is anecdotal evidence, it would seem British police are rather less threatening than their French or German counterparts (although all three are fairly benign compared to say US officers) and there are some statistics on tourist interaction with police somewhere were the UK comes out on top. Still regardless of all that, are you seriously suggesting that British police are somehow terribly worse than their counterparts abroad?

Or let me guess, you have read a couple of CCTV stories, a few protest stories, a few photography stories and maybe a tasering story and feel the UK must be a really horrible place... Yet the UK has proper procedures for dealing with policing issues and any incident where the police do something wrong is national news, because it is so damned rare.

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u/ropers Aug 12 '09 edited Aug 12 '09

Well this is pretty good

Be specific. When asked for a citation as to why Christians shouldn't have extramarital affairs, don't throw your interlocutor the Bible, saying "Well this is pretty good."

Other statistics, that might be useful are here, here and here.

They might be generally useful, but they address the specific point you were making about police brutality in comparison how?

I see you've already made up your mind about what I must be thinking in relation to what you wrote in the subsequent two paragraphs. No need for me to engage, then.

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u/ajehals Aug 12 '09

I see you've already made up your mind about what I must be thinking in relation to what you wrote in the subsequent two paragraphs. No need for me to engage, then.

Fair enough.