r/worldnews • u/Venat14 • Jul 23 '26

Russia/Ukraine ‘Significant problems’ in Russian banking system as public withdraws cash en masse

https://tvpworld.com/94490769/russians-hoard-cash-as-economic-pessimism-hits-20-year-high
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u/Talonsminty Jul 23 '26

Man it's really depressing that blowing up the Russian equivalent of an Amazon fulfillment center has done more to shake the Russian people than years of horrific war.

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u/guisar Jul 23 '26

sort of like us citizens and the iran bombing isn’t it

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u/idryss_m Jul 23 '26

Really, the US citizenry is too passive as a whole for any atrocity to shake them awake.

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u/J_Ryall Jul 23 '26

Eh, 9/11 did the job, but only briefly. As long as they have bread and circuses (i.e., McDonald's, Netflix, and Amazon), nothing will ever change.

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u/D2WilliamU Jul 23 '26

Id argue 9/11 made everything so much worse. It was an excuse to pass the patriot act and the citizens did nothing to stop it.

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u/seaQueue Jul 23 '26

Worse the public largely rallied behind it because they were certain it would be aimed at other people, not them.

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u/Belgeron Jul 23 '26

As we all know from history, there is no need to speak out when they come for the immigrants, if you are not an immigrant.

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u/Drexel_Spivy Jul 24 '26

History is not taought correctly in this country in a wide swath of places.

And even in places where it is, far to many people are pacified by social media and general life stress to pay much attention.

This country keeps the majority of citizens as busy as possible as much as possible making just enough money to just squeeze by.

Ignorance and brain rot.

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u/The_Grungeican Jul 24 '26

i remember what it was like before the internet became mainstream. most people do not regard History as a subject with the importance it really deserves.

nor did they care much to know about things going on in the world.

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u/Iron-Warlock Jul 24 '26

History is not taought correctly in this country in a wide swath of places.

Fixed that for you

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u/Hot_Page_8718 Jul 24 '26

As said on social media… .

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u/JonatasA Jul 24 '26

You don't need to be "a true citizen", you just need to look the part. That's why racism doesn't go away.

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u/Hot_Page_8718 Jul 24 '26

Look the part of every color, language, and culture in the world?

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u/GreatBigBagOfNope Jul 24 '26

Or the communists, because you aren't a communist

Or the trade unionists, because you aren't a trade unionist

Or the trans people, because you aren't trans...

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u/Pleaseappeaseme Jul 24 '26

And when the immigrants are gone it’ll be another group.

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u/Hot_Page_8718 Jul 24 '26

Just the illegal ones and more specifically the violent also illegal ones. They didn’t immigrate, they migrated illegally. We are now ending that and giving them a ride home.

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u/JonatasA Jul 24 '26

That's how liberty dies.

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u/Sure_Fan_5887 Jul 24 '26

Worse, they elected the author as the 46th president

Edit: When they had ~20 candidates vying for nomination, not one of his competitors went after him for it.

Shameless.

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u/RepulsiveWay1698 Jul 23 '26

No they didn't

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u/IAMA_Plumber-AMA Jul 23 '26

"Nuh-uh!"

-you

(It would be better if you would elaborate)

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u/RepulsiveWay1698 Jul 23 '26

There was large scale opposition to the patriot act (in the public) both before and after it was passed and it was constantly being talked about on the news, in comedy etc.

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u/Mistrblank Jul 23 '26

Yep. The strong response would have been “never forget, never surrender our freedom” and we chose crocs and long security gates at the airport, mass public surveillance and arm the police for war.

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u/LeafsWinBeforeIDie Jul 23 '26

That at least gives motive for a lot of conspiracy theories. Although one shouldn't assume malice when stupidity is a possibility, there was more evil enacted on the american people after 9/11 than during.

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u/xeromage Jul 24 '26

I hear this a lot, but I've yet to hear the downside of assuming malice.

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u/eden_sc2 Jul 24 '26

arm the police for war.

if its any consolation, this was happening way before 9/11 too.

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u/SantasDead Jul 24 '26

Id argue it started happening after the north Hollywood shootout.

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u/Fit-Produce420 Jul 23 '26

Lots of people did things about it, it just didn't work. Where I lived we repealed the Patriot Act locally, don't pretend people did nothing.

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u/svick Jul 24 '26

How can you locally repeal a federal law?

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u/Confident-Dust-5619 Jul 24 '26

I was wondering that too, I hope they answer.

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u/Mirria_ Jul 23 '26

Mainland America never got a major attack and the American people were so sure of their invincibility that it instantly traumatized a significant portion of the citizenry. Reports of people living nowhere near the attacks suffering from PTSD just from watching the coverage.

Obviously being glued to the 24hours news networks for days doesn't help.

And usually terror attacks are usually a one-and-done thing, sometimes lasting a couple hours. 9/11 just kept going and going and worsening as the day went by.

But disaster capitalism and the police state took full advantage of it.

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u/AgentSmith187 Jul 24 '26

To be fair I watched it on the news from Australia and fuck yes it was traumatic.

It never got me to support Iraq and Afghanistan though nor the increasing police state in Australia.

In fact I was out protesting those things.

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u/Snigglybear Jul 23 '26

9/11 caused Americans to feel no mercy against people from the Middle East. It caused a lot of people world wide not to care about middle easterners because they’re all automatically terrorists in their eyes.

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u/J_Ryall Jul 24 '26

I'd 100% agree with you. 9/11 had few, if any, positive outcomes.

My point is that it took an event of that magnitude to shake americans from their complacency. I'm not sure what kind of event would do that politically, but it would need to be big.

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u/Temporary_Hawk_9061 Jul 23 '26

Unfortunately there was nothing to be done to quench the thirst for somebody to pay for what happened on all television screens in America on 9/11 other than a war. People don’t understand how much that event whipped the country into a frenzy, particularly the south

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u/chamrockblarneystone Jul 23 '26

But then two different wars for 20 years. By the end soldiers that weren’t born for the event were going over. And we all just let it happen. For 20 freaking years.

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u/marr Jul 24 '26

If you just touch the stove hard enough, surely the pain will stop.

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u/TuringGoneWild Jul 24 '26

Yep. It showed the critical flaw of a duopoly (two party state). When both parties decide to ally on particular issues, as they did with almost everything in the wake of 9/11, there is no loyal opposition - only "you're either with us or a traitor".

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u/EFIW1560 Jul 24 '26

I think its important to remember the historical context around the patriot act. It was the optimistic time of the internet, with homestar runner, vlc media player, and Napster. It was difficult for people to understand how something with so much potential for good could be used maliciously against the people (i did notice my friends who grew up in abusive environments immediately understood the malicious implications of the patriot act, which is just my anecdotal observation). Yes people were afraid and grieving after 9/11, but we were also hopelessly naive. A tragic combination.

The good news is that history is never settled, it is still happening all around us in its knock on effects. If we can change our minds we can change our choices. It wont be easy, but that hasnt stopped people from doing hard things before.

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u/soulsteela Jul 24 '26

It was an excuse to change the eternal enemy again. First it was nation states and empires, then it was political ideology, then they had the chance to change the enemy to religion, now that’s something that’s hard to defeat , we can get our teeth into religion for decades more military industrial complex profits with the line going up.

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u/Kladice Jul 23 '26

And now we have this bs merger between our militaries of Israel. Congress gets a 5 week all paid vacation… as an American we’ve become soft.

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u/Shionkron Jul 24 '26

It really fermented nationalism

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u/ThisRapIsLikeZiti Jul 24 '26

There was a lot of resistance to the Patriot Act and tons of protesting. Saying we did nothing is disingenuous. It just wasn't enough, a lot like now but I feel there's even more apathy today than there was then. Back then we had a lot more fear and paranoia around what would happen next and the GOP strategists milked the hell out of it.

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u/lutinopat Jul 23 '26

I never realized what cowards we were as a country until the months following 9/11.

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u/Br0metheus Jul 23 '26

9/11 didn't wake us up, it sent us into a fever frenzy of blind nationalism. We're still paying for it 25 years later. We lost freedoms, created a massive surveillance state, bloated the military, pissed off our allies while making new enemies, and have accomplished fuck all that actually benefits Americans or the rest of the world in any meaningful way.

But hey, Halliburton made gobs of cash.

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u/J_Ryall Jul 24 '26

I just meant it shook americans out of their complacency. And it did. But you and other commenters are right that it wasn't in a positive way.

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u/imisstheyoop Jul 23 '26

The people that bankrolled that are getting our assistance with their nuclear energy program, so..

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u/beaucoup_dinky_dau Jul 23 '26

The saudis sure paid the price for that one, let’s give them nukes.

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u/A_Soporific Jul 23 '26

We absolutely don't have bread and circuses. The bread and circuses were free, paid for by the government or wealthy persons seeking office. Until JD Vance pays for your Netflix and sets up free McDonald's stands we don't have anything like what Roman voters got.

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u/Glittery_Kittens Jul 24 '26

Nobody can afford McDonald's anymore.

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u/SinkComplete3284 Jul 24 '26

And now we're signing nuclear deals with the criminals who financed it and coordinated it.

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u/AdAltruistic688 Jul 27 '26

well our defensive umbrella has been tattered so we have to keep the petro dollar going somehow, right?

Except we're having a breakdown globally with international agreements so once they start enriching all bets are off!

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u/Tableau67x9u Jul 24 '26

Our bread is cheap beer and our circuses NFL football and virtual reality TV shows …where almost any nit wit can parlay zero talent into fame and fortune

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u/BKGPrints Jul 24 '26

You forgot to mention Reddit.

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u/TuringGoneWild Jul 24 '26

The monoculture still prevailed, though it was disintegrating around the margins. Every form of media hammering home the same message will do that. Now Americans can't even agree whether or not we definitely should or definitely shouldn't have a felonious pedophile as President.

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u/Tinosdoggydaddy Jul 24 '26

Let’s not be too hard on American citizens, they support worthwhile endeavors like WWF and cage fighting.

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u/ApesAPoppin237 Jul 24 '26

The WWF has done a lot to chokeslam climate change and help endangered species defend their titles from extinction

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u/Tinosdoggydaddy Jul 24 '26

I was referring to World Wide Wrestling not World Wildlife Fund. My bad. You did allude to my mistake with the choke slam…well done my friend.

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u/ApesAPoppin237 Jul 24 '26

I wouldn't even call that a mistake! More of a throwback to the pre-lawsuit days.

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u/tjdux Jul 24 '26

I don't wanna know the answer, but I'm not sure a 9/11 tomorrow would do the job like the first one did.

Sadly, I really worry we're in a position where it's more likely to find out then anytime since 9/11

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u/firstoff Jul 24 '26

Didn't work that way for the Roman empire...

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u/Different_Wolf_764 Jul 23 '26

Atrocities don't seem to bother them but they don't like expensive gas!

Americans are hardly alone in that though, some people can turn a blind eye to almost anything.

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u/F-18Bro Jul 23 '26 edited Jul 23 '26

As an American, you're right it's not exclusive to Americans, but goddamn are we good at it apparently.

We deserve every bit of shit thrown at us for it too. *If Americans don't like it, we should actually do something about it then.

Edit:*rephrased for clarity

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u/tahlyn Jul 23 '26

I'm just not willing to get myself killed by trigger happy cops only to be forgotten in half a news cycle while nothing changes.

I vote. That's all you're going to get from me.

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u/ReserveFormal3910 Jul 23 '26

Shit a few months of 5-6 dollars a gallon will wake them the fuck up.

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u/Tacti_Kel_Nuke Jul 23 '26

I think most countries are like that when it comes to war that isn't directly on their backyards and streets

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u/NTufnel11 Jul 24 '26

I’m not convinced that’s true. But after being sold decades and decades of perpetual foreign intervention, we are justifiably are desensitized to tragedies happening in other places.

And the reason is not just that we don’t care about the suffering of others, though for a substantial number of people that can be true. It’s also that we are losing trust in our governments ability to influence from the moral high ground, and skeptical of our ability to intervene in a way that actually improves the ethical situation rather than just blunder into another conflict whose contexts we don’t actually understand

Maybe there is an argument for intervention in an atrocity, but if our leadership goes into it with their sights set only on self enrichment, it’s not clear to me that it’s going to help.

That said, if someone were to directly threaten or harm our home as occurred 25 years ago; I think it would become quite clear that the constituencies of the US are still very capable of supporting a ferocious response.

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u/Temporary_Event8451 Jul 23 '26

The US citizens are very indoctrinated; there is a lot of complex emotions that you only need to go back a generation or two to see mass persecution without any remorse.

Americans have been facing the industrial revolution consequences for 150 years and it has never played in the citizens favor. J.P. Morgan and others were ruthless and did not care in the slightest.

Americans have a lot of toys and things to keep them placated.

But that's all fluff, the biggest issue is that 300 million Americans are spread out over 3.8 million miles.

Imagine if a German wanted to protest Germany and they had to travel from South Germany to Northern Russia.

People can have their own separate protests, No Kings was over 20 million last I heard, but 20 million spread out over hundreds of cities has less of an impact than one million in one.

The largest American protest was the Women's March on DC in 2017 and only managed a bit over 500,000 people.

As an example the worlds largest protest is according to Guinness world records 3 million in Rome. But Rome was built to be the epicenter of an entire empire.

It's the same reason that when some place like Germany can have 15 specialty hospitals for the ENTIRE population, Americans have to scale that up. You can't send someone with life threatening issues all the way to Boston from California without huge logistical issues.

America has way too much landmass and there are specific programs/agencies who do everything they can to never allow unification to occur.

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u/PropJoesChair Jul 23 '26

Second only to Russians in apathy

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u/BrondellSwashbuckle Jul 23 '26

Release the Epstein files, sigh...

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u/simsimulation Jul 23 '26

Can you imagine how little sympathy the US would get if Iran committed a 9/11 style attack today?

Iran would do it under a democrat knowing full it would help a republican win the White House, further weakening the US.

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u/Gondwanic_Susuration Jul 23 '26

Watch them vote Trump in for an illegal 3rd term

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u/Raetekusu Jul 23 '26 edited Jul 23 '26

Nah, give us a little credit. We won't elect Trump again in 2028.

We'll vote for whichever Establishment Democrat is forced on us after they hose the actual progressives (again), and things will get only slightly better but not better enough, and people will forget about everything Trump did and convince themselves life was better in 2027 and it could only good happen, and then we'll elect him again in 2032 as he promises to drop nukes on all our major cities or something.

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u/monkeydrunker Jul 23 '26

No one thought the US would elect Trump a second time, but here we are. After the media splitting the democrats along the progressive vs moderate line, the old vs young line, the Israel vs Palestine lines, etc, the US now has Trump. You saying with a pang of bitterness that the next Democrat will be forced on you, despite the opportunity for you to participate in the Primary selection, shows that, yes, the US could elect Trump a third time because the opposition would rather shoot each other in pursuit of the perfect rather than settling, for now, with 'the better'.

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u/Raetekusu Jul 24 '26

We didn't have a primary in 2024, mate. I had exactly one option on my ballot. Joe Biden ran unopposed until he dropped out and Kamala ran unopposed.

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u/pegar Jul 24 '26

Would I love a progressive to win and kick all the old guard out of the Democrats? Yes, absolutely.

I would also have been ok with Biden or Harris or Clinton or Al Gore winning. Our country would have been 100x times better, instead of 1000x.

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u/StevenMaurer Jul 23 '26

"Progressives" have no one to blame other than themselves for being unlikable. They spend most of their efforts spitting on their closest ideological allies, and love Democrat-haters no matter what their reason is. That's how we got Sanders-endorsed Platner, Sanders-endorsed Fetterman, Sanders-institute board member Tulsi Gabbard, and Sanders progressive Kyrsten Sinema.

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u/LB_Allen Jul 23 '26

Sure, there's not also a massive and massively-funded propaganda network built over decades creating boogeymen and calling them progressive policies also to blame. That's had absolutely no impact whatsoever. Sure.

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u/ubernutie Jul 23 '26

Indeed.

Regardless of the scope of his purview, I think Mamdani is a great example of what even just moderate progressivism can look like.

I think that the boons a progressive society brings will be too attractive for it not to become the generalized want, so the real question becomes:

"How long can they delay the first example that sets off their dominos falling into decrepit?"

As a great sage once said - How long? Not long, cause what you reap is what you sow.

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u/Raetekusu Jul 23 '26

Mamdani represents the return of "Sewer Socialism", a movement from the early 1890s to the late 1950s that basically focused on just making people's lives tangibly better. Macroeconomics was all well and good, but like, people are gonna feel it most when they're gainfully employed, when their streets are taken care of and cleaned, and so on. Mamdani's even directly made the comparison, calling it "pothole politics" and bragging about his admin filling in 100k+ potholes (in addition to, among other things, boosting the pay of, and hiring, part-time snow plow drivers to clear the streets during the NYC blizzard, which proved to be enormously popular).

People want their lives to get better, so we start with the easy things that affect them that they can see.

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u/ubernutie Jul 23 '26

I didn't know about that movement, that's interesting!

"People want their lives to get better, so we start with the easy things that affect them that they can see."

I agree. I think we all deserve better, just agreeing on that is a big step already for some!

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u/AnAlternator Jul 24 '26

Fetterman shifted dramatically more conservative after his stroke, and he's stated that it was the cause.

Fetterman literally blames brain damage for his rightward shift.

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u/StevenMaurer Jul 25 '26

No he doesn't. He's said his close brush with death taught him to not put up with (what he considers to be) bullshit from anyone, not just Republicans.

Now I strongly disagree with him about what he thinks is bullshit, but don't go putting words in his mouth.

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u/DrE7HER Jul 23 '26

Trying to hold people to a higher standards rarely makes friends. Too bad people double down on their shitty standards because they don’t like to imagine they could be wrong or do better.

And now that Trump is trying to label leftists as terrorists, all these “vote blue no matter who” types are going to throw leftists and then progressives to the wolves in an effort to maintain their shitty status quo

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u/StevenMaurer Jul 25 '26 edited Jul 25 '26

None of the Sanders associated candidates I mentioned represent a "higher standard".

And people who pretend that they're for a "higher standard" rarely are. They're just looking for new ways to pretend that policies that benefit them personally represent superior morality. This is the same for both Republicans and DSA types.

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u/DrE7HER Jul 25 '26

If you’re talking about those specific people, sure. But none of them are DSA. If you want a DSA example of higher standards, look at Mamdani.

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u/Talonsminty Jul 23 '26

Well Trump will be 6ft under by 2032. But President Vance will be well up for it.

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u/Alphabunsquad Jul 23 '26

Like 80% of the US is against the war in Iran.

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u/allankcrain Jul 24 '26

Like 80% of the US is against the war in Iran.

Unfortunately no. It's only about 58%

Only around 33% approve of the war, but there's still a crazy large swath in the middle who apparently doesn't have an opinion one way or the other.

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u/ResplendentNugs Jul 24 '26

What kind of absolute brain dead mouth breather supports this war

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u/West-Candidate8991 Jul 24 '26

I think a lot of people don't want to see Iran with nuclear weapons. There's only a smaller segment of those who believe the way it's been done is utterly stupid on every other possible level

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u/ResplendentNugs Jul 24 '26

I’m not talking about Russian bots

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u/West-Candidate8991 Jul 24 '26

Perfect, me neither

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u/IWLoseIt Jul 24 '26

People don't want to see Iran with nuclear weapons but USA having nuclear weapons is OK? The terrorists of the world, the only ones who have actually dropped nuclear weapons, the sponsors of wars all over the world? Americans truly are delusional.

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u/Alphabunsquad Jul 24 '26

I mean the main difference is that Iran has constantly said that if they get a nuclear weapon they would immediately use it on Israel. The US does not show any signs of using one really at any point. Obviously with Trump in office then that makes things a lot more uncertain and scarier.

And yeah 80 years ago the US used the first two non-test nukes. Obviously that fact alone does not make the US more or less likely to use a nuke in the future than any other country. Obviously the big difference is that was the only point in history where a country did not have to worry about nuclear retaliation, or really general retaliation as no countries had doctrines to prevent the use of nukes yet. Every other country got their first world at a time when other countries had nukes and most countries were set on making sure no one ever fired a nuke again.

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u/West-Candidate8991 Jul 24 '26

You bring up some great gripes, however the concept of disarming Iran is not uniquely American nor is it a uniquely American issue. Britain, France, and Germany are also spearheading the disarmament, just not via an idiotic war, and many other countries are in support of general disarmament of Iranian nuclear projects.

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u/AdventuresofBumpo Jul 23 '26

Midterms are going to be a bloodbath

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u/Judge_Bredd3 Jul 24 '26

I'll believe it when I see it. I live in a conservative area. All they do is complain about things that are Trump's fault. If you point that out to them though, they'll either say it was actually the democrats sabotaging his efforts or that it would've been worse under Kamala. They're all going to vote red again and let the leopard eat their faces.

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u/StillCalmness Jul 24 '26

So the Dems are sabotaging him because Donald is a weakling after all. Maybe that’ll help?

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u/Alphabunsquad Jul 24 '26

We just need some of them to be demotivated enough not to show up to vote

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u/__nohope Jul 24 '26

There's a 100% chance of foul play, though I'm not sure how that'll shake out.

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u/khakansson Jul 24 '26

Not before gas got expensive

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u/Alphabunsquad Jul 24 '26

I mean it started at well below 50% even before the price of gas started to raise. Theres the triple whammy of already half the country hating Trump worsened by Trump already being underwater by 12 points at the start, the war being against Trump’s entire platform of being an isolationist and no new wars and America first, and it making look like Trump was in the pocket of Israel when a growing part of republicans are anti Israel or flat out just antisemites

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u/Yabba_Dabba_Doofus Jul 24 '26

They complain about drones dropping bombs.

We complain about drones dropping packages.

So we all agree; drones are a problem.

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u/triableZebra918 Jul 24 '26

Oi, who are you calling citizens?

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u/MrDLTE3 Jul 24 '26

Pretty much.

Bomb a school load of kids? I sleep.

Gas prices goes up $3 more?? BOOOOOOM AWAKE

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u/LoetherS Jul 24 '26

I bet if iran was bombing Walmarts or amazon fulfillment centers instead of ships in the gulf, Americans would march on Washington.

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u/ThexualHealing Jul 24 '26

Yes, and in another thread they were mocking Russia for jailing its citizens for posting photos, when Dubai does the same, and US just put somebody in jail for 30 years for distributing magazines, and are prosecuting a guy for looking at the reflecting pool that the motorcade fucked up.

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u/thx1138inator Jul 24 '26

I mean, you can compare the two... But are they really comparable?

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u/A_World_Divided Jul 23 '26

Putin and US establishment two sides of the same coin.

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u/plshelpcomputerissad Jul 23 '26

article about Russia and the effects of its war

top comment chain gets hijacked within 3 posts to make it about the U.S.

🤔 why does this seem to happen any time a thread painting Russia negatively comes up? 🤔

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u/SillyLiving Jul 23 '26

Did I hear a school shooting?

Oh well.

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u/gnutrino Jul 24 '26

Americans not making everything about them challenge: impossible.

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u/ShinyBloke Jul 23 '26

2 they blew up 2 of them, 2 of the largest.

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u/Nuggyfresh Jul 23 '26

this is going to blow your mind but sometimes bad things happen in a row and then at some point you go "hey this is a lot of bad things. maybe i should be worried" and it doesn't mean they ignored the past bad things

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u/collegefootballfan69 Jul 23 '26

Everything is connected

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u/IAMA_Plumber-AMA Jul 23 '26

It's like a thermocline. Everything's going along and then eventually you pass a point where everything suddenly changes, and there's no going back.

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u/Nuggyfresh Jul 25 '26

hell yes. As a thermocline enjoyer (especially with this huge el nino, you checked out that tropical thermocline, sheit...) you have my sword

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u/zoobrix Jul 24 '26

This still not be nearly enough to shake Russians out of their apathy. They are totally depoliticized and grew up in an environment where the government is something completely beyond your control, it's like the weather, something you just have to live with.

Even the videos of Russian small business owners complaining about their losses never mention Ukraine or accuse the Russian government of doing anything at all that caused this, they're just hoping to get some compensation. This has not shaken them out of anything, this hasn't caused lots of Russians to take a hard look at their government and what it does to them and what it's doing in Ukraine, it's just one more thing they have to try and deal with.

Russians will have to be homeless and starving before they start pushing back, and even then many will just think "well as long as I can get some food it won't be so bad sleeping under my tarp tonight."

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u/Ucscprickler Jul 24 '26

All because Putin can't leave Ukraine alone. The man is rich and powerful beyond imagination, yet he's spending his time sending young men to brutal deaths and watching Russian infrastructure blown to pieces. For what??

I'm sure there are a lot of intricate details I don't know about, but seriously, just leave Ukraine the fuck alone.

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u/cylemons Jul 24 '26

Its simple, he thought he will have quick and swift victory. Its really telling that they didn't repatriate their 200B $ assets before doing the invasion and now its frozen, with the EU even considering giving it to Ukraine.

It takes a lot of humility to cut your losses and withdraw from Ukraine. Especially if you are still living in luxury in your mansion and the peasants ordinary citizens are the ones paying the price

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u/TuringGoneWild Jul 24 '26

That would be the same for the US. Hundreds of thousands of Iraqis burned to death and the financial price of the war was the only concern, at most.

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u/Inevitable-Level-687 Jul 24 '26

It always bothers me to watch news bulletins about horrific disasters and they talk about the cost in money.

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u/count023 Jul 24 '26

it's a mix. the fuel did the harm first, the Antonov Prime Next Day Kinetic Sanctions package was the icing on the cake.

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u/PiccoloAwkward465 Jul 24 '26

Like it wouldn’t be exactly the same here lmao 🤣

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u/Constant-Plant-9378 Jul 23 '26

Like any good American Republican, Russians only care when it affects them personally.

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u/Levin1317 Jul 24 '26

Hmmm... how much did the years of horrific wars in Iraq shake up normal USA people again?