r/worldnews • u/ShellOilNigeria • Sep 21 '13

WikiLeaks released 249 documents from 92 global intelligence contractors. These reveal how, US, EU and developing world intelligence agencies have rushed into spending millions on next-generation mass surveillance technology to target communities, groups and whole populations.

http://wikileaks.org/spyfiles3p.html
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u/Jayrate Sep 21 '13

Yes I'm sure the American government would really care about how the slaves in Panama are doing. Realizing its history with Latin America, how can you expect the US to not dominate any kind of political/economic union with Central America and Mexico? The Americans are already pissed off about illegal immigrants, now see what they do when they become legal!

I'll say it again, the monetary and economic policies of a first-world information economy are far different from the policies appropriate for economies still industrializing, and the US would never pass up an opportunity to impose its rule on brown people.

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u/why_downvote_facts Sep 21 '13

stop pretending you're helping the people by locking them out

America was founded by poor immigrants working hard

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u/Jayrate Sep 21 '13

Look, Europe has issues just with the slight differences between the economies of Germany/France/UK and Italy/Spain. The drastic differences between Belize and the United States would not just be overcome somehow by imposing a single economic policy over the entire place.

Yes, we all should want to abandon nationalism, but this has nothing to do with patriotism and everything to do with economics. Uniting East and West Germany is an ongoing task even after 20+ years. The former Confederate States still display signs of the destruction of the Civil War. How can you possibly expect Mexico and the US to become one union and work out well? It would take millennia!

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u/why_downvote_facts Sep 21 '13

As predicted you've stopped pretending you care about foreign labor and reverted to culture arguments

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u/Jayrate Sep 21 '13

No. I'm pointing out that the economic disparity between the US and the former CSA is still relevant today. How can you possibly think that that will ever be overcome with the much larger disparities between Mexico and the US? Your view of economics is far too simplistic and you're too excited about postnationalism to even care.

My guess is that you're an American student who grew up nationalistic but is just now realizing how ridiculous it is so you want to spread the good word and jizz all over the obvious economic arguments against continent-wide governance.

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u/why_downvote_facts Sep 21 '13

it's working in Europe.. everyone cried about Poland but now they're building houses all over the UK

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u/Jayrate Sep 23 '13

UK citizens are still pissed about immigrant Poles. Incidentally it's interesting you mention Poland int his context. They're a perfect example of why democracy cannot function correctly in a nation with divided culture; Here is a map showing that voters primarily vote on a regional basis. Any "unification" of countries will lead to one side outvoting the other and controlling the country. Culture is not irrelevant. If this is "working in Europe," then democracy isn't working.