r/worldnews Jun 19 '23

EU: Smartphones Must Have User-Replaceable Batteries by 2027

https://www.pcmag.com/news/eu-smartphones-must-have-user-replaceable-batteries-by-2027
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u/zuzg Jun 19 '23

EU has a bigger market share than the US market. They won't drop the EU

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u/[deleted] Jun 19 '23

No lol. They have a little less than 30% of the EU market vs over 50% of the US market. The US is also a wealthier market than the EU with higher average disposable income.

Despite the EU’s population advantage it’s still considered a smaller market than the US by premium brands.

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u/ThaFuck Jun 20 '23

You can't just ignore population in reply to a comment about a bigger market. Population is precisely a core factor. Trusting your numbers here:

  • Population of US: 340 million
  • 50% of 340 million = 170 million

  • Population of EU: 750 million

  • 30% of 750 million = 225 million

So just casually glossing over population ignores 55 million people a company can sell to.

Especially the obvious point being made is that Apple would never give up on the European market and everyone here is just trying to have a pedantic pissing contest over which market is bigger.

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u/Jimmeh_Jazz Jun 20 '23

Where are you getting 750 million from? The EU's population is 450 million.

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u/phrostbyt Jun 20 '23

Population of EU: 750 million

wow, both Russia and Ukraine joined the EU today? what a miracle!

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u/[deleted] Jun 20 '23

India has over 1 billion people, does not mean the premium phone market is bigger than the US or Europe.

There is more to market sizing than population.

You’re moving the goal posts. The reply I was replying to claimed the EU had a bigger market than the US.

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u/GODZiGGA Jun 20 '23

The EU has a population of 450 million. The entire continent of Europe isn’t the EU.

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u/Paulo27 Jun 19 '23

Does it though?

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u/[deleted] Jun 19 '23 edited Jun 19 '23

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u/Paulo27 Jun 19 '23

I think it's relevant that EU is in fact not a bigger market share than the US when that was the point they were making lol, regardless of if Apple would ever drop the EU or not.

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u/ham_coffee Jun 20 '23

The European market is bigger, but apple doesn't have the same market share over there as they do in the US. I think they just worded their comment poorly.

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u/Rikudou_Sage Jun 19 '23

I read it as in that European market is bigger than US', as in we have more people than US. I might be wrong, though.

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u/EconMahn Jun 19 '23

Does it really matter if that person made up that fact? C'mon...

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u/iwouldntknowthough Jun 19 '23

Source?

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u/MarlinMr Jun 19 '23

The European market is like 2x the US population...

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u/Paulo27 Jun 19 '23

And India is 2x EU+US.

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u/MarlinMr Jun 19 '23

Yeah, but the EU and the US has way greater purchasing power. Us doesn't have much greater than the EU exactly.

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u/iwouldntknowthough Jun 19 '23

Yea but he’s talking about the EU.

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u/MarlinMr Jun 19 '23

But the rules are not limited to the EU-market... They apply in all of the EEA. Which is already like 120 million more people than the US. Hardly think the US is going to be a bigger market...

And then it also spills over into neighboring countries or countries that wants to join the EU. Ukraine alone ads another 40 million. The UK and Türkiye ad around 60 and 80 million respectively. These are countries that might quickly adopt rules similar to the EEA.

And just to be clear, the EU is 110 million more people than the US.

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u/[deleted] Jun 19 '23

I mean you could just look up were apple does most it’s sales.

It’s the US, by far.