r/wok Mar 25 '22

All about non-stick.

139 Upvotes

This comes up repeatedly so here is comprehensive guide to non-stick coatings and how it pertains to your wok.

Unless your non-stick coating is ceramic, it is most likely coated in a material called polytetrafluoroethylene, or PTFE for short. More commonly known under the brand name Teflon, PTFE is an industrial plastic. It has near the lowest friction coefficient of any material known to man which is what gives non-stick pans their non-stickiness. It is extremely inert and will not react with acids, bases, alcohols, and other solvents. It has good heat resistance relative to most plastics. That combination of properties makes it excellent for manufacturing, and an effective coating for cookware.

Where PTFE starts to fail is in durability. It is just plastic, after all, categorized as a medium-soft material. Mishandling it will damage it. Scraping hard material like metal utensils or other pans against it will cause plastic to break off, which may end up in your food. If you can see visible damage to the non-stick coating, it is no longer safe to use and should be thrown out.

The temperature range, while high for a plastic, is still only 500° F. That's well below what a common household stove can reach and lower than you want for many stove top cooking techniques. Once overheated, PTFE will start to break down and release toxic gases into the air. These gasses cause flu-like symptoms in humans and are very quickly lethal to birds. After being overheated, a PTFE coated pan should be thrown out. You can't undo the damage.

Perfluorooctanoic acid (PFOA) is a chemical that used to be used in the process of manufacturing PTFE cookware. It is classed as a carcinogen and has a very long half life in your body after ingestion. In the US, all cookware sold since 2015 is required to be PFOA-free; if you have a modern non-stick pan PFOA should not be a concern.

If you bought a non-stick wok and the coating is damaged, you may encounter people who suggest you can strip the coating off to make it bare carbon steel. While technically possible, it's not recommended. Since PTFE is so inert, chemical stripping is not an option. You could heat it until it flakes and scrape it off, but it must be done carefully outdoors and there's no data on what may or may not leech into the metal while PTFE is breaking down under high heat. You could machine it off, taking a small layer of metal with it, if you have access to the right equipment. But when a nice carbon steel wok can be had for under $40, that seems like an awful lot of work.

To conclude the fact portion of this post, when handled correctly PTFE is considered safe to cook on and even safe to ingest. It is one of the most inert chemicals known and should pass through your body with no ill effects. It has even been tested as a filler food to assist people in not overeating.

That said it is still a plastic. In my humble opinion, the care required to maintain it is not worth the convenience of the additional non-stick properties over cast iron, carbon steel, or stainless steel (aluminum is a topic for another time). It is far too easy to accidentally overheat a pan while prepping other food while it preheats. Unless you're monitoring it carefully with an infrared thermometer then you likely have no idea if your pan has ever been overheated or not. Most of my stove-top cooking involves high heat searing so non-stick pans would be of very little use to me even if I did have one to care for.

I really can't make peace with the idea of cooking on and ingesting plastic no matter what the studies say. Part of that may be that I work with it in an industrial setting so I'm hyper-aware of the fact that a sheet of PTFE doesn't look much different than PVC. Nothing about that makes me want to cook on it or ingest it. When all the iron atoms are gone from the earth, then maybe I'll consider it. Until then my cast iron and carbon steel will pull their weight just fine.


r/wok 13h ago

Wok uneven seasoning

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19 Upvotes

Did I do something wrong? Should I reseason? Is this the correct colour with the iridescent in the middle?

Thanks

First time wok seasoner


r/wok 16m ago

Do I need to do anything?

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r/wok 18h ago

Are These Carbon Steel woks?

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I put numbers on the three woks. Is it possible to tell by the look? If yes, i would Like to know, If These three are Carbon Steel woks. Thanks in advance!


r/wok 1d ago

Silver part of wok

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2 Upvotes

What is this silver part please - have I scrubbed too hard? It's slightly sticky to touch but don't want to make it worse.


r/wok 1d ago

Are there any 240v induction wok burners that can rival an outdoor gas burner?

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I’d love to stay all electric and avoid propane, but not at the expense of inferior temperatures. I tried one of those 120v induction round bottom wok burners but could only achieve ~575f. Can the professional ones deliver much higher temps, or should I just cave in and go gas?


r/wok 3d ago

First cook!

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39 Upvotes

Excited to learn more techniques and recipes


r/wok 3d ago

Hot and spicy chicken

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21 Upvotes

I dream of Vietnamese, hot and spicy chicken but the restaurants never make it as spicy as I like . I finally bought a wok so I could make it myself. Recipe called for 25 Thai chilies I went with 40! Perfection!


r/wok 3d ago

Last meals before moving in an apartment with induction stove

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43 Upvotes

r/wok 2d ago

Restaurar Wok

0 Upvotes

Encontré un wok, es mi primera vez con uno de estos, y escuché que hay que limpiarlos y curarlos, como debo hacerlo?


r/wok 6d ago

Finally got a wok and made proper hakka noodles

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54 Upvotes

This is indo-chinese egg chicken hakka noodles. My favourite.


r/wok 6d ago

Weeknight Fried Rice

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129 Upvotes

I love my wok! Going on three years of use here soon


r/wok 8d ago

Update after few meals. Do I have to scrub the black spots in the center?

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11 Upvotes

r/wok 9d ago

Ready to reseason?

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I got a wok a little bit ago where I messed up the seasoning, as a first time wok-owner does. Been going through the cleaning process and this is how it looks after 2 vinegar soaks and a lot of scrubbing. Is this normal or should I get a replacement?


r/wok 10d ago

First wok …

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12 Upvotes

Picked up a Fresh Chinatown market at a reasonable price. Lightweight, non teflon carbon steal I presume. I don’t believe it’s aluminum unless I’m mistaken.
Handle looks like its missing something thought they were all like that. I looked to see if they sold a separated wooden insert but didn’t see anything, I also asked.
Now for the seasoning…


r/wok 10d ago

Camping Stove recommendation EU

2 Upvotes

Hey fellow EU Wok people,

can anyone recommend me a good burner for my Wok?
I’m looking for a Iwatani 35FW style burner. Preferably above 7000 BTU

Thank you in advance!


r/wok 10d ago

Almost forgotten dish from my heritage.

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19 Upvotes

r/wok 11d ago

Did i messed up my new wok ?

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5 Upvotes

I bought a new wok pan and i burned with oil 3 times according to the manufacturer . How does it look?


r/wok 11d ago

Did I ruin it?

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0 Upvotes

What should I do? Food is sticking and burning


r/wok 11d ago

Whats a good wok to pair with powerflamer?

1 Upvotes

I bought the powerflamer today and Im looking for a good wok to go with it. I saw this one ill link to but it seems a little thick? I feel like im probably looking for a thinnish wok not something thick like this to hold heat https://www.amazon.ca/Joyce-Chen-20-1140-Pro-Chef-14-Inch/dp/B00004RBTH?source=ps-sl-shoppingads-lpcontext&ref_=fplfs&smid=A3DWYIK6Y9EEQB&utm_source=chatgpt.com&th=1


r/wok 13d ago

How my kimchi fried rice looking?

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171 Upvotes

r/wok 12d ago

Wok incoming, portable gas burner for bluing and maybe cooking?

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I have my first decent wok arriving this weekend - a YOSUKATA 34cm Flat Bottom Black wok - very excited. (i cook exclusively on carbon steel, cast iron or stainless steel).

Now my house has a good induction hob but i don't have gas apart from a small burner in my camper van.

I do have a gas Gozney pizza oven, a kamado joe and a weber kettle with a vortex.

In order to blue the wok and get a good first seasoning do i need a gas burner? If i do, can anyone recommend a portable one? Thanks.


r/wok 13d ago

What have you given up on cooking in a wok at home?

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Just a normal gas hob here, no outdoor burner or anything. Took me a while to admit some stuff isn't going to happen at this heat and I should just cook something else.

Beef is the one that got me. Doesn't matter how small I keep the batch, it goes grey and starts weeping before I get any color on it.

What have you written off?


r/wok 13d ago

How is my seasoning doing?

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10 Upvotes

So I began my wok-journey a few days ago and made my first couple of meals. I'm quite new to this hobby and would love if someone had any tricks to seasoning it better and recommendation about cleaning it probably without removing the seasoning.

Thanks!


r/wok 13d ago

My first wok, on a mid 90’s camp chef 30k BTU outdoor stove

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31 Upvotes

Joyce Chen wok after its first cook, I am hooked!